Carlos Di Bello asked this question vis Skribit:
Does “Help from Kimi Raikkonen (or Heikki Kovalainen)” mean “Team orders”? Is it legal? Can teams encourage it?
As we all know, team orders are banned. But we also know teams can get away with doing certain things to manipulate the running order of their drivers. What can and can’t they get away with?
The rules
Team orders were banned in Formula 1 after Ferrari’s actions during the 2002 season. The team infamously ordered Rubens Barrichello to surrender what would have been a hard-fought win over Michael Schumacher in Austria.
Ferrari are not the only F1 team to have used team orders, nor are team orders a recent invention. But public criticism of F1 following the A1 Ring farce was so vehement the FIA decided a repeat of such blatant race-fixing would not be in the sports’ best interests.
Thus article 39.1 of the Formula 1 Sporting Regulations states quite explicity:
39.1 Team orders which interfere with a race result are prohibited.
Does this mean team orders are banished in F1? No, the teams are just a lot more subtle about it.
Sleight of hand
To spot the occasions where teams have influenced race outcomes in the past 12 months you don’t need to be a cynic – just a realist.
Ferrari shuffled Felipe Massa out of Kimi Raikkonen’s path at Interlagos last year to deliver the drivers’ championship to his team mate; Nick Heidfeld presented Robert Kubica with no resistance at Montreal this year, allowing Kubica to score the team’s maiden victory; Heikki Kovalainen refrained from racing Lewis Hamilton at Hockenheim in the closing stages.
A brutally tough interpretation of article 39.1 could brand any of these decisions as interference with a race result.
But, as we discussed a few weeks ago, unwritten rules play just as big a role in how F1 works. In the case of team orders, teams can get away with a lot of things you might expect Article 39.1 to prevent. They would have to be quite blatant to get caught and punished.
Why did the stewards leave McLaren, Ferrari and BMW alone in these examples? Probably because there was no radio communication between team and driver beforehand giving an instruction, as we heard at Austria in 2002 (“Let Michael past for the championship, Rubens, please” – Jean Todt.) Presumably the teams now tell their drivers beforehand what is expected of them in these situations.
At Interlagos last year, Massa was out of the championship running and was surely told by the team before the race that if he could guarantee the championship for Raikkonen by moving aside he must do it. In the event, with a comfortable one-two, Ferrari were able to take the most low-profile way of pulling the old switcheroo – doing it via the pit stops.
Similarly it makes sense for teams not to allow their drivers to hold each other up when the following car is much faster than the leading one – as was the case for BMW and McLaren this year in the other examples above.
Suzuka 2006 – Toyota
If teams are going to manipulate the race outcome it surely makes sense for them not to discuss it on the radio. In an unusual incident in 2006 Toyota did just that.
Jarno Trulli was ordered three times to move over for Ralf Schumacher at Suzuka – but refused. The team were not investigated for the incident, but might it have been different if Trulli had let Schumacher past? Or if Toyota had been one of the teams in contention for the championship?
It is surely not something either Ferrari or McLaren would risk this year.
Monaco 2007 – McLaren
The 2007 Monaco Grand Prix is a useful precedent. During the race, McLaren brought second-placed Lewis Hamilton into the pits several laps ahead of his planned pit stop. An unimpressed Hamilton complained this robbed him of the chance to press home a strategic advantage over Fernando Alonso, who was leading.
The FIA investigated the incident but agreed with McLaren’s defence that Hamilton’s pit stop had been brought forward to keep him from being caught out by the ‘pit lane closure’ rule if the safety car was deployed (which we discussed earlier this week).
More extreme team orders
Letting your team mate past is one thing, but what about more aggressive team orders – like delaying your team mate’s rival?
This is something we haven’t seen much of recently. Perhaps that’s because no-one’s had the need and the opportunity. Or perhaps the teams have been quietly told they will be hauled over the coals if they do it.
In 1999 alone we saw David Coulthard holding up Michael Schumacher (Suzuka), Michael Schumacher holding up Mika Hakkinen (Sepang), and Mika Salo holding up Ralf Schumacher (Spa-Francorchamps) for tactical reasons. This year, with the Finnish McLaren and Ferrari drivers likely to be reduced to supporting their team mates’ title bids over the final races, their teams might be tempted to try more of the same – if they know they can get away with it.
What team orders should teams be allowed to use – all, some or none? Have your say in the comments.
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Kester
3rd October 2008, 11:19
I think there is definitely a line, where that is I’m not sure though.
Ferrari were over it with the Schumi/Rubens incident. But I don’t think asking one of your drivers to let a position up to his team mate who is clearly faster should be classed as team orders. Nor should one of your drivers holding up the opposition be.
CD
3rd October 2008, 11:25
No such thing is wrong until it is caught. They can do whatever they want, provided they do it in a suble way.
Jean
3rd October 2008, 11:32
I often wonder if sometimes more “extreme” forms of “team orders” are not happening . Take the last race in Singapore , for instance. Piquet crashes out , which results in a safety car , which in a way results in his team-mate (Alonso) winning the race . As I said above , “extreme” , and unlikely , but maybe not impossible. On a number of other occasions , I have seen cars spin , and get themselves odly stuck half on and half off the track in a manner that almost looks like it was done deliberately , and resulting in a safety car. Makes one wonder , doesn’t it ?
Phil B
3rd October 2008, 11:37
F1 is a team sport, always has been. If a team boss spends ~$400 million putting two cars on the grid 20 times a year he should be able to choose what they do when they get there. Whilst Ferrari’s actions in 2002 were crass I didn’t feel there was anything wrong with them. In terms of talent and contracts Rubens was always the number 2 driver, the only person surprised at the request was him and a few people who were presumably watching F1 for the first time that weekend.
This rule has had a much greater (and worse) impact on F1 than the action that caused it. It is another one that should be binned.
antonyob
3rd October 2008, 11:38
i dont have any problem with team orders and i dont feel “cheated” if a race result is affected. Its mainly an issue with the non F1 savvy press and bookmakers and Im not going to lose any sleep over them.
I think the question more alludes to how Kimi can help Massa. Firstly he needs to qualify ahead of Lewis then he needs to hold them up. They can delay pitting him or even do a Renault and have him “make a mistake- sorry team” just after Massa has pitted, if it suits. Im not saying Renault did that at SIngapore but its an interesting tactic to deploy.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
3rd October 2008, 11:38
I think the Piquet crash was just what it was – a crash. No denying it was convenient for his team mate, but there are less dangerous ways than that to bring the safety car out.
Of course team orders can involve more than one team: remember the Norberto Fontana episode during the Jacques Villeneuve-Michael Schumacher title decider in 1997.
antonyob
3rd October 2008, 11:52
thats an outrageous slur on Schumachers taintless career. It does remind me of the comment made by some engineer or other who said that Jean Todt could light up a room, by leaving it.
Loki
3rd October 2008, 12:05
I wonder if there’s ever been an incident, whether team ordered or not, where a team mate has “deliberately” taken his team mates championship rival car? I keep having dreams* of Kimi or Heikki getting a bit late on the brakes and collecting a championship contender.
(*Actual dreams, not wishful thinking!)
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
3rd October 2008, 12:14
Loki – In the 1964 title decider John Surtees’ team mate Lorenzo Bandini hit Surtees’ title rival Graham Hill.
Lustigson
3rd October 2008, 12:22
In principle I had no problem with Barrichello moving over for Schumacher. What did strike me, and millions of others, as odd, was the fact that it happend in race 6 of 17, and so blatantly obvious, too.
The crowd’s reaction at the time was understandable, because most people like seeing an underdog win once in a while. Hence the popularity of Jordan’s first victory, and Vettel’s Monza win.
antonyob
3rd October 2008, 12:24
bandini could be said to have got his come uppance. Senna took Prost out at Suzuka in 84 and ushered in the cynical era we are still in.
Journeyer
3rd October 2008, 12:29
Antonyob – you may be referring to 1990 there. But let’s remember, Prost himself took Senna out the year before (1989), also in Suzuka!
More on that in my Japan GP retrospective next week. :)
antonyob
3rd October 2008, 12:42
yes quite right journeyer.why didnt i just google it!
And not forgetting the stinger Prost put across the adelaide straight in 87 that “collosally” did for Mansell :)
GR
3rd October 2008, 12:56
I agree with PhilB and antonyob – it’s ridiculous not to have team orders. What’s the point in having 2 cars if teams can’t use them strategically?
In fact, why do teams have 2 cars?
Oliver
3rd October 2008, 13:27
Kimi, is not even motivated to help himsself, do we believe he will find the motivation to help Massa?
Heikki is never anywhere near the scene in which he is needed.
Realistically, team order only makes sense right now, when the common good of the team is at stake, as a team stands to benefit from having one if their drivers winning the world championship. If a team can score the maximum points possible with team orders then they must use it. Otherwise, why spend $400 Million and come last.
antonyob
3rd October 2008, 13:31
Well ask Honda they specialise in that
Oliver
3rd October 2008, 13:36
Keith now u mention that Fontana episode. In Canada, Vettel held Alonso up so badly at the hairpin, that Kimi went past. We later saw Kimi wave to Vettel. The manner in which he made Alonso lose momentum struck me as real odd at the time.
schumi the greatest
3rd October 2008, 14:03
I Havent got a problem with team orders, as a few have mentioned the teams are spending millions on running their team its up to them whiuch driver finishes in front in my opinion, the drivers are employees of the team.
The Ferrari incident, well i can see peoples point because schumahcer already had a good lead in the championship by that point, but what if it had gone pear shaped from then on in the same people who criticised ferrari for letting shcumacher pass rubens would have said they were stupid for letting rubens win.
Formula 1 is a sport but its alos a business the amount of money involves places alot of pressure on people to succeed. ferrari were paying scumacher $25million a year to win the world championship, they didnt care whether rubens one the odd race, all they were concerned with was winning. i’d agree they overstepped the mark but its all part of the sport in my opinion.
if you look at sport in general, people cut corners to succeed, football for example, players winding eachother up to get an advantage, subtle things like that are a big part of sport. I dont thinki anyone who really understands sport can complain about team orders, especially at the highest level when there’s so much money involved.
i hope it doesnt decide the championship this year but if it did i wouldnt be suprised,.
antonyob
3rd October 2008, 14:11
cetainly schumacher knew it and took full advantage but for those of us who just want to see straight racing then accepting that it goes on is another mile down the road of it being accepted practice. It shouldnt be, it should always be criticised and the driver always tainted by it. And certainly schumacher is that.
Chalky
3rd October 2008, 14:16
One example of team orders that I have seen is in ALMS (Penske LMP2 @ Detroit 2008). If you’re team mate is ahead of you, just bring them in for a lengthy check on the car for safety reasons and then send them back out when the team-mate is ahead of them.
This helped the championship leading car gain some extra points in the closing stages of the race.
It’s an option that can be implemented at the track.
However, I have wondered what influence the team could have over a uncooperative team-mate. Can they electronically cut the engine from the pits? Or maybe stick up a false warning light for the driver? :D
F1 is a team game, and team orders are expected especially to help one driver clinch the title.
As Oliver said:
Blatant team orders (Ferrari Austria 02) or team agreements (DC \ Hakkinen Australia 1998) should not happen, hence the new rule? I reckon the Hakkinen \ DC one was worse than Ferrari at Austria 2002, as it was the 1st round of the championship. Who in their right mind works to get in F1 and then gives up the chance to win the opening round and lead the championship?
Simon
3rd October 2008, 14:35
F1 is a team sport, there should absolutely be an affect on one car depending on how his team mate is doing. A finn holding up Massa/Hamilton is absolutely right, not necessarily because it helps their team mate, but because it makes their own team more likely to win the Constructor’s Championship.
I think teams should be able to do whatever they want to increase their chances of winning as a team, but interfering with positions between their own drivers is not on.
Alex Cooper
3rd October 2008, 14:57
This is just one more hazy rule that needs to be cleared up to my mind.
No-one minds team orders in the last couple of rounds of a championship but to implement them in early spring is a bit of a joke.
But where’s the cut-off?
Jess
3rd October 2008, 15:42
Team Orders are as old as motor racing. But I do hate it when they can affect the winner of a race. I kind of like how they are not so blatent in F1, kinda give you the chance to go well, did they need to do that or was it team orders hmmm. A little mystery is fun from time to time.
Tim
3rd October 2008, 15:45
Keith – You mentioned Norberto Fontana at Jerez in 1997. Interesting race for a team orders discussion – weren’t McLaren and Williams also suspected of colluding to influence the result?
qazuhb
3rd October 2008, 15:56
Thanks Keith, the background info provided is exhaustive, as ever. Didn’t know until now the role fellow Argentinean Fontana played in the Schumy-Jacques brawl!
I agree with several posters that, if there are teams then orders must follow! It is interesting to note that, had not the “no orders” rule being in effect, perhaps McLaren could have asked Alonso to imitate Massa and make room for the point Hamilton needed to grasp the WDC at Interlagos last season (probably Fernando wouldn’t have submitted anyway, but we’ll never know).
Another aspect of the question (for me, at least) is that if orders are banned, can bosses make public statements “suggesting” help is needed and so trying to influence their drivers’ own judgement, à la Montezemolo or Domenicali?
I agree with Alex Cooper, the rule is so hazy it only manages to muddy things further…
And if a driver takes another out of the track à la Prost-Senna-Schumacher, I think he could be penalized without the need of the “team orders” rule.
GeorgeK
3rd October 2008, 17:44
An appropriate time of the season to ask this question Keith, with the last three races coming and only seven points separating the top 2.
As many have stated, team racing would be chaos without team…..orders, or “strategy” if you like. Anything short of condoning collisions should be allowed, including the universally reviled Schumi gift win by Barrichello in Austria.
Why should teammates not be regulated by their teams based upon the teams judgment of who has the better chance of winning races or championships?
If you want to avoid team orders limit each team to one car each and find a more economical way of more teams getting into the sport, ala customer cars.
SoLiD
3rd October 2008, 18:47
I tought there also was a (un)written rule about ‘team orders’ stating that they are allowed when it’s championship deciding (like massa – kimi last year)
Though Ferrari did it quietly…
But anyway as long as it’s not as abvious as at the A1 ring it’s ok by me… it’s a team sport aswell!
david-br
3rd October 2008, 18:51
Since so much rides now on qualifying, race fuel loads and pit stop strategy, ‘team orders’ are almost there every race. Last year was decided by Massa in two ways: off the grid at the start where he boxed in Lewis (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJmZGtLiIPk) allowing Raikkonen to pull into second, and via the pits as Keith noted. Okay or unsporting? It really depends on whether you see F1 as a team sport (as the teams evidently do) or an individual sport (as the drivers would probably prefer). I can’t see much wrong with a slower team-mate pulling over to allow the faster driver to pass without incident, but for me the opposite (as at Interlagos) denatures F1 somewhat as a sport. You could argue, I suppose, that it’s up to the other teams to ensure the team in question isn’t in a position to exploit this maneouvre.
The real issue, though, could well be whether a hyped-up Kimi would be ready to ‘take out’ Lewis Hamilton trying to pass him at some point in the last 3 races by basically giving zero room, even if it means a DNF for himself. I really can’t see Heikki doing the same to Massa, but Raikkonen-Hamilton already has history and you just get the feeling Kimi’s dying to do it…
f1feak
3rd October 2008, 19:27
yeah i wont be surprised if kimi nails ham…remember he showed no mercy when ham tried to pass him at spa..
Wesley
3rd October 2008, 23:17
I don’t have a problem with team orders as long as they are subtle,like Massa did for Kimi last year for the championship-perfectly executed.How could you possibly expect them to do anything else in that situation?However,I do not agree with putting another life in danger with aggressive moves like running another off track or,blatant passes that insults the hell out of us race fans.
sassan
3rd October 2008, 23:25
What some of us might have missed is that in the contract they would always have a clause about being No2 driver etc. Peterson for Andretti 78 Cevert for stewart 73, also the infamous villeneuve/pironi to schumacher/barrichello.
It is always wrong to do it at the beginning of the season, however this season should be different as i personally think that massa and hamilton should be supported by their teammates as they don’t seem to be in contention.
Nick
4th October 2008, 0:10
Massa did not pull over for Kimi, Kimi got himself past Hamilton and then put in quite fast laps to leapfrog Felipe Massa.
Hamilton has had Heikki pull right over and qualify near the back for him.
GeorgeK
4th October 2008, 2:34
“Hamilton has had Heikki pull right over and qualify near the back for him.”
Now that scenario is unrealistic because in spite of any team orders each team tries to qualify both cars as close to the front as possible, because there is always the constructor’s crown to fight for. Every point counts.
How would you explain Kimi’s failures at qualifying this year? Team orders as well? I don’t think so. Team orders usually come into play relative to championships, and usually later in the season….unless it’s a Schumi led Ferrari squad.
And as I offered earlier, I don’t have a problem with that either, but a bit of discretion by the team and a lot less bawling from Rubens on the podium would have made it more palatable by the fans.
the limit
4th October 2008, 3:06
Obviously team orders are going to play a factor, and for me, Raikkonen is going to be the biggest threat to McLaren for several reasons. The main one is that he is far more consistent than Kovalainen, who to be honest, has disappointed me this season. Raikkonen has made mistakes, but he has had the pressure of being the defending world champion, something very few people get to experience.
Now that that pressure has been relieved of Raikkonen, I believe he is going to show real pace in the next trio of races left, something that is going to be crucial to Massa.
Also not lost on Raikkonen or on his team, is the role Massa played in Brazil last year in helping Kimi clinch the championship. Massa was in Kimi’s shoes a year ago, having been eliminated from the title race, and seriously hampered the McLarens at the start of the race, to enable Raikkonen to pass Hamilton into turn one. Something simular to this, I expect to see from the Finn in the next three rounds.
Thirdly, there is the revenge factor. Hamilton maywell have lost his victory at Spa in the courts, but Raikkonen lost his championship defence during the closing stages of that race, fighting Lewis. By the ferocity of that battle, you could tell that there was no love lost. The Canadian race, inwhich Hamilton rearended Kimi, costing him a possible victory, will no doubt linger in Raikkonen’s mind.
I don’t care how cool and carm he may appear outside of the car, a competitive person does not forget moments like those easily.
Kovalainen, as promising a driver as he is, lacks the crucial experience that only time can provide. So in the sense of having an edge concerning possible team orders and tactics, then I would easily give that to Ferrari
ron
4th October 2008, 12:24
To the Limit,
i like your attitude, I hope we see all out war between ferrari and McLaren, all four of them. no restrictions…. well other than that measily rule of course.
beneboy
4th October 2008, 14:09
I’ve never had much of a problem with team orders.
If your team mate is fighting for the championship and you’re out of the fight then it is perfectly acceptable for you to let him past you and to do your best to hold up his championship rivals, as long as you don’t purposely run them off the track.
One of the limitations of team orders should be the point in the season that they occur.
The galling thing about Schumi & Rubens in Austria was that it was so early on in the season, the championship had loads of races left for Schumi to win.
In circumstances like that I, as a Ferrari fan, wanted to see Rubens get a win, he deserved it both for his driving on the day and for the service he gave to the team.
Once it’s down to the last few races though, almost anything goes and it’s your responsibility as a team mate to help your team win the championships.
Senor Paz
5th October 2008, 1:18
Like any other great sport, F1 has a long history of controversy and claims of injustice towards particular teams or drivers. That is because there are written rules (that can be changed if deemed inappropriate for whatever reason) and a sea of competitors trying to get away with as much as they can.
Controversy is not an essential ingredient for a sport, but a crucial byproduct. There is no sport without rules, and there are no rules without controversy. That is the same with any sport, whether its referees have access to video footage before making a decision (F1, Cricket, now even Tennis) or not (Football, Basketball, etc).
The point is that, from the audience’s perspective, complaining about whatever decisions get made by the refs is pointless. Individual competitors/teams that feel prejudiced by any decision can, and should, appeal. But this is why I write this post:
Great competitors in any sport are those that can find the line that separates punishment from reward. This means taking well assessed risks consistently, being conservative when appropriate and even going all out when absolutely necessary.
And that is why, plain and simple, Felipe has been the best driver this season so far.
ZappBrannigan
5th October 2008, 10:34
Chalky said:
However, I have wondered what influence the team could have over a uncooperative team-mate. Can they electronically cut the engine from the pits? Or maybe stick up a false warning light for the driver? :D
Well actually this something Alonso complained about last year at McLaren. He insisted the team wouldn’t cooperte with him because they internally favored Hamilton. To make sure he, Hamilton, has an advantage they would give him “Alonso” tires with wrong pressure. However, as mentioned before it is hard to envisage why a team would dare to do something like this. It obviously cuts down the chances to get best positions for both cars and the best result for the team. Even if the drivers championship is a neat thing every team would like to win it’s the Constructors Championship which is the most important championship for the team.
Alianora La Canta
5th October 2008, 12:22
Teams can’t cut engines or stick up false warning lights from the pits because that would require two-way electronic communication between driver and pit, and since 2003 only radio contact is allowed to be like that. However, there’s nothing to prevent a false pit-stop from being called, or a radio message to the effect that the telemetry had picked up a problem and could the driver please slow down a bit/not go over X rpm/stop and thump the engine cover three times to sort it out?
DG
7th October 2008, 8:40
Mmmmmmm, if you don’t want team orders don’t race as a team. There are two cars and two drivers, either they support each other (which is usual) or they don’t (which is not so usual). So, if the whole team is supporting the stronger driver (or the preferred driver), that must include the other driver surely? Thats so obvious even Bernie couldn’t argue against it.
When the drivers are at each others throats on and off the track, then, yes, lets see them racing each other properly. But if you think about it the rest of the team still has orders to allow them to do it!
As for the holding up the opposition, thats been going on for so long it doesn’t count as any more than ‘racemanship’.
If F1 wasn’t a team sport, we would have separate Pit Boxes for the cars so that they could be run independantly (as they are in NASCAR). And that would allow for different sponsors/colours on each car and no team orders whatsoever. I’m surprised Bernie hasn’t seen that one yet!
guille2306
7th October 2008, 20:34
I agree with all of you that think that team orders have nothing wrong: if you run a team, you work like a team, not as two separate independent half-teams…
I would like to comment on a local case: in the most important tourism car championship in Argentina (TC2000), with two races to go it is a very close fight between the official Honda (Civic) and Renault (Megane) teams. Off course, team ‘strategies’ are at the order of the day, with the slight tweak that Honda lines up 8 cars (4 of them official) and Renault only 2… In the words of one of the managers of Renault:
“Team play is normal in races, but we have to see which are the limits. Some teams have abused [he refers here to the last race]. I hope that the stewards will analyze well the maneuvers and they will be coherent. They should say until where strange decisions are allowed. Honda has almost eight cars to fight the title, but we knew that from the beginning. We are conscious of that disadvantage.”