F1 finally bursts back into life today as more than half of the 2010 F1 teams send their new cars out on track.
Michael Schumacher will get his first test of the first Mercedes F1 car since 1955. Williams and Toro Rosso will also be showing off their 2010 machines in public for the first time.
Join us and follow the first official test session at Valencia as it happens below.
Testing results
| Driver | Car | Best time | Laps |
| Felipe Massa | Ferrari F10 | 72.574 | 102 |
| Pedro de la Rosa | BMW Sauber-Ferrari C29 | 72.784 | 74 |
| Michael Schumacher | Mercedes W01 | 72.947 | 40 |
| Nico Rosberg | Mercedes W01 | 73.543 | 39 |
| Gary Paffett | McLaren-Mercedes MP4-25 | 73.846 | 86 |
| Rubens Barrichello | Williams-Cosworth FW32 | 74.449 | 75 |
| Sebastien Buemi | Toro Rosso-Ferrari STR5 | 74.762 | 18 |
| Robert Kubica | Renault R30 | 75.000 | 69 |
Testing notes
The greatest point of interest today is the first official appearance of three new cars – the Mercedes W01, Williams FW32 and Toro Rosso STR5. The latter is especially interesting as it’s the first car the team have built without the assistance of sister team Red Bull (although certain common parts are allowed).
There’s lots more to look out for at the first test. Besides the first appearances of drivers at new teams (see below) we’ll also see the first Cosworth-powered F1 car since 2006 and BMW Sauber’s return to Ferrari power.
For all the anticipation, today will probably be a low-key day in terms of actual running. Expect lots of installation laps and settings checks. Reading too much into testing is a mug’s game at the best of times – especially on day one.
As tests go on we’ll build up data on which drivers and teams have done the most laps and had the most time in their cars.
Testing starts today at 9am British time (10am CET).
Update: the new cars have begun to appear:
- Mercedes W01 debuts (Pictures)
- Toro Rosso STR5 breaks cover (Pictures)
- Williams FW32 has test debut (Pictures)
Today’s testing line-up
The following drivers are expected to participate today:
McLaren MP4-25 – Gary Paffett
Mercedes W01 – Michael Schumacher and Nico Rosberg (Shared)
Ferrari F10 – Felipe Massa
Williams-Cosworth FW32 – Rubens Barrichello
BMW Sauber C29 – Pedro de la Rosa
Renault R30 – Robert Kubica
Toro Rosso STR5 – Sebastien Buemi
The track
Valencia’s Ricardo Tormo circuit is the venue for the first of this year’s tests, just a few miles away from the street circuit where the European Grand Prix is held:
Last year BMW were the only team to test at the track and they did not release any lap times.
Weather at the track today is expected to be dry and sunny with temperatures around 12-14C.
Timing and other resources
The following sites often have live timing information:
If you know of any others, please post details in the comments.
Another good source of live information from the tests is drivers’ and team’s Twitter pages. You can find them in the F1 Twitter directory
You can find details of future F1 tests in the F1 Fanatic Google Calendar
Pictures from today’s test
Pictures from today’s test:
Video from today’s test
Images (C) Red Bull/Getty images, Williams/LAT, Ferrari spa, Renault/LAT
Vikas
1st February 2010, 7:26
Oh man!!…. the wait is getting longer all of a sudden
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 13:47
Live stream:
http://www.comunitatvalenciana.com/webcam/valencia-terra-i-mar-cheste-cheste-0
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 13:48
Credits to Goofy
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 14:01
And its working,just saw a white wagon go by.
MigueLP
2nd February 2010, 10:48
im surprised by shumaches speed just 40 laps and hes just .4 rom massa who did 100 laps of course they could have been testing different things. the williams hes pretty much the same car
Kutigz
1st February 2010, 7:27
Keith, January 1st? Or you actually mean February 1st?
Its my birthday today so it must be February 1st.
SimonF1
1st February 2010, 7:29
Happy Birthday :)
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 7:56
It will be February 1st,Happy Birthday Kutigz.
& Yeah the wait is finally over all those beautiful music is back on track.
BBQ2
1st February 2010, 7:53
LOLz Kuti such a mistake on your birthday….. btw, who cares Jan first or today? ;-). Main thing is that the season has started in earnest ……. that is what counts for a petrolhead like me :-)
Oh! And HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! ;-)
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 8:05
And we’re off to a good start…
Fixed the date, thanks guys!
damonsmedley
1st February 2010, 11:51
Is it just me, or is the STR5 extremely attractive? I personally think that is one of the best looking 2010-spec cars we have seen yet…
James
1st February 2010, 15:51
Yeah I agree. The shape and livery work perfectly together.
Jos� Baudaier
1st February 2010, 21:52
Specially the bull on the vertical stabilizer or whatever the name is.
SimonF1
1st February 2010, 7:28
Looking forward to this, will have to try very hard not to read into the times and such, even though I know we all want to!
Vikas
1st February 2010, 7:30
Happy birthday Kutigz
Vikas
1st February 2010, 7:31
What time does it start anyway?
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 7:35
9am. It’s current 8:30 in Madrid, so it starts in half an hour. I’ve heard Toro Rosso were unveiling their car at 8am, but it clearly hasn’t happened.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 7:36
Thanks man :)
U2
1st February 2010, 7:37
Can hardly contain my excitement .. have waited for this for quite sometime now :)
Vikas
1st February 2010, 7:38
me 2…pun intended :)
U2
1st February 2010, 7:40
:D
Is anyone aware of any websites streaming the testing?
David
1st February 2010, 7:43
Doubt anyone would bother, there’s only a small audience for this – die hard F1 fans.
Lustigson
1st February 2010, 7:56
A steady webcam at the pit exit or along the main straight wouldn’t be too diffictult, would it?
LewisC
1st February 2010, 9:17
Like the one at the Nurburgring…
vet4snak
1st February 2010, 7:46
ditto! it’d be great to have it!!
can’t wait until Kamui/ SV/ MS get in to action these weeks!
As usual thanks Keith!
And happy birthday to Kutigz!
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 7:57
There is no coverage of the testing in any form exept for print media like Autosport or online blogs like this one.
You’re not missing much, anyway. They do an installation lap and return to the garage, spend a while doing setup stuff and only return to the circuit intermittently. The drivers are aiming to be within range of a pre-determined lap time, and they never race one another on the circuit. The cars are released at intervals to prevent them from encounteing one another on the circuit, and if ever one car catches up with another, the first driver always yields by slowing right down and getting off th racing line.
It’s very boring. Trust me when I say you’re not missing anything at all.
bwells
1st February 2010, 8:53
That is true Prisoner Monkeys… but what we are truly missing is seeing the new cars on track.. and true hardcore fans of Formula 1 know at this point… that’s all that matters… lap times mean nothing until Bahrain… :) 7 more minutes… 8)
JV
1st February 2010, 9:10
Here is live streaming sute
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motor21.com%2Fnoticia.asp%3Fdt%3D315%26nt%3D79118&sl=es&tl=en
JV
1st February 2010, 9:12
another website
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.f1today.nl%2Flive-update%2F2010%2F02%2F01%2Fcircuit-de-la-comunitat-valenciana%2F&sl=nl&tl=en
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 7:58
Be with F1F,if anybody have the time please post it as soon as you get it.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 8:02
Hey guys…. the mclaren twitter page says testing starts at 10 am at the local track time. so we’ll have to wait another hour
LewisC
1st February 2010, 8:04
Three new cars running? This stands a decent chance of being the most exciting day at Valencia all year! :D
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 8:04
Mercedes have rolled out their new F1 car: Mercedes W01 debuts (Pictures)
Pat
1st February 2010, 8:05
Can some one post the direct link to the correct pages for timing info the sites listed above are Dutch & Spanish & I’m embarrassed to say I understand neither :(
joko
1st February 2010, 8:55
http://www.f1today.nl/live-update/2010/02/01/circuit-de-la-comunitat-valenciana/
Pat
1st February 2010, 9:08
Hi thanks for that ! :)
JV
1st February 2010, 9:15
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.f1today.nl%2Flive-update%2F2010%2F02%2F01%2Fcircuit-de-la-comunitat-valenciana%2F&sl=nl&tl=en
The translation is funny but it still works
NomadIndian
1st February 2010, 13:29
Yeah, it says “The Sauber of Massa…” and has translated his name from F.Massa to F.Bulk!!! :)
Vikas
1st February 2010, 8:09
use yahoo babelfish or google translator..it helps
Rabi
1st February 2010, 8:13
Keith is this right?
“Michael Schumacher will get his first test of the first Mercedes F1 car since 1955. “
BBQ2
1st February 2010, 8:32
Why are pple so critical? Every F1 fan knows that Mercedes raced last in 1955!
I think with the speed at which Keith informs us here, we should be a bit THANKFUL instead of this constant ranting :-(
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 22:04
Before this season Mercedes only ran as a full factory team in the world championship in 1954 and 1955. They’ve been an engine supplier in F1 since 1993. More here: Mercedes team information.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 8:15
*his with *the ;)
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 8:21
And now the new Toro Rosso has appeared: Toro Rosso STR5 breaks cover (Pictures)
Ace
1st February 2010, 8:27
You are ON FIRE Keith :) Love your work.
Kain
1st February 2010, 8:34
Is the testing going to be shown on TV ? tnx
PJA
1st February 2010, 8:53
The new Williams should be the next new car due then with the first outing of the Cosworth engine.
damjan006
1st February 2010, 8:58
Someone have an idea where we can find live timing or some stream???
wdf2
1st February 2010, 9:01
How many minutes after testing begins will the first team whisper “illegal diffuser” to a journalist?
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 9:02
The test has started!
Salty
1st February 2010, 9:05
Silly season complete. Sandbagging season begins ;)
Varun Murthy
1st February 2010, 9:07
At the rate at which comments are flowing in, a live chat might just be needed for testing sessions as well.. :)..
Cant wait for the sessions to begin,even though there wont be a whole lot of laps..
Varun Murthy
1st February 2010, 9:08
Check this out : http://twitter.jamesallenonf1.com/live ..pretty helpful..
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 9:23
Interesting – I could potentially put something like that on this page if people find it useful?
Magnificent Geoffrey
1st February 2010, 10:33
Whist test sessions aren’t as fascinating a spectacle as Free Practice sessions are on race weekends, I know I would enjoy being able to get a steady drip of info on what’s going on on track throught the evenings here. Especially as test sessions now happen about as frequently as a Piquet Jr classified finish used to, every lap now counts for so much more. So yeah, go for it!
NomadIndian
1st February 2010, 13:16
Yes, please do. I think its cool and will surely be useful.
Hairs
1st February 2010, 13:22
The problem I already see with the JA twitter aggregator is that it becomes spammy – a lot of the posters will re-tweet what someone else on the aggregator has already posted, on the basis that their followers on twitter may not be following the person they’re re-tweeting. In some cases, this means that “big” names like Sarah Holt, official teams etc are updating, then getting re-tweeted 10 or 15 times.
three4three
1st February 2010, 17:16
Hairs, I agree about the retweeting but tbh I think it’s a great service nevertheless, I’ve been on it pretty much all day refreshing it.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 9:10
Massa 1:32.873
wdf2
1st February 2010, 9:13
I can’t find live timing on the Spanish-language Motor21 site. Here is the direct link to f1today.nl’s live timing page, but they haven’t posted any times as of 10:10 CET.
http://www.f1today.nl/live-update/2010/02/01/circuit-de-la-comunitat-valenciana/
U2
1st February 2010, 9:13
Thanks Varun ..
Vikas
1st February 2010, 9:15
Use this : http://www.motor21.com/noticia.asp?dt=315&nt=79115
Salty
1st February 2010, 9:21
Twitter really is coming into it’s own on days like this. eddstrawF1 and team feeds particularly fruitful.
wdf2
1st February 2010, 9:34
Could someone list the f1 teams’ twitter account names?
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 9:39
I put a link to it in the article. Here it is: F1 Twitter directory
Scarb
1st February 2010, 9:34
http://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/livestream/
German TV, at this moment live from Valencia….
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 9:39
Nice one thanks Scarb!
Scarb
1st February 2010, 9:40
At 13.30 CET there will be a Schumacher special on the same TV channel
Vikas
1st February 2010, 9:37
Barrichello 1:26.715
Vikas
1st February 2010, 9:38
1:26.395 buemi
Jay
1st February 2010, 9:40
Where are you getting those timings from please?
Victor
1st February 2010, 9:41
what’s a ‘good’ time for this circuit?
sumedh
1st February 2010, 9:45
I have raced on this trackon my MotoGP URT 3.
The best time is close to 1:23. But F1 cars will definitely be faster.
Massa’s 1:32 here seems extremely bad. 1:26 by Barrichello seems ok, considering that it was his first lap.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 9:55
The last F1 test at the track I can find times for was BMW in February 2008 – Nick Heidfeld did a 1’12.258. Two weeks before that Heikki Kovalainen did a 1’11.000 in a McLaren. But these were 2008-spec cars, of course.
ap
2nd February 2010, 0:18
dont worry about times…it’s day 1 of 1st test of the year…todays test results = zero….
PaulRS
1st February 2010, 9:42
what’s the lap record here?
Vikas
1st February 2010, 9:44
@jay…check the motor21 link above or the twitter link by varun…
Jay
1st February 2010, 9:46
thanks Vikas
Jay
1st February 2010, 9:45
1:39.489 was what Hamilton got for last years Pole Position
Varun Murthy
1st February 2010, 9:47
The race run in Valencia was a different track..That was the street circuit..This one is a different track..Its called Ricardo Tomo or something like that..
Beri
1st February 2010, 9:48
You are confused between street cicruit and the permanent circuit where they test now.
Jay
1st February 2010, 9:59
Sorry :| I realised after I posted
ap
2nd February 2010, 0:19
?
huh….I cant remember that race 8p
Jay
1st February 2010, 9:45
1:38.683 Timo Glock got fastest lap in last years race here in a Toyota
Victor
1st February 2010, 9:50
erm….F1 race is on valencia street circuit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia_Street_Circuit
testing is on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_Ricardo_Tormo
Jay
1st February 2010, 9:58
sorry :|
PaulRS
1st February 2010, 9:47
12 seconds dif?
Any track changes?
fabzx
1st February 2010, 9:48
http://www.f1-direct.com/include/livegp/we/temp/essais.php
Vikas
1st February 2010, 9:48
jay, you’re talking about the valencia street circuit….but this test is happening at the nearby valencia ricardo tormo circuit…
sumedh
1st February 2010, 9:48
@Jay:
That is the Valencia street track. Which is not being used for testing. Check the image by Keith, it is fairly different.
Which BTW begs to question, if the teams come to Valencia, why don’t they race on this track instead of the street one?
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 9:53
Looking at the track layout I don’t think we’d see good races here at all – it’s far too short, tight and twisty. On the few occasions GP2 raced here the races were no good and if the GP2 cars can’t have a good race on it F1 definitely can’t.
Having said that the street track seems little better!
Varun Murthy
1st February 2010, 9:56
I guess you cant shut down city roads just for the sake of testing..
Varun Murthy
1st February 2010, 9:58
oops..sorry..my bad..read the post completely wrong..my bad..
Jay
1st February 2010, 9:49
I was wrong about the times, sorry. I didn’t realise that this wasn’t the Valencia race track but a track down the road
Jay
1st February 2010, 9:51
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_Ricardo_Tormo
Hopes this makes up for my mistakes
Vikas
1st February 2010, 9:51
Thanks fabzx
Vikas
1st February 2010, 9:54
@jay :)
Beri
1st February 2010, 9:54
McLaren is having a ingenious new diffuser according to this website:
http://www.f1-direct.com/include/livegp/we/temp/essais.php
Ill quote:
Apr�s la pr�sentation de la McLaren MP4/25, les rumeurs faisaient �tat de triple, voire quadruple diffuseurs � l’arri�re de la McLaren.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 9:55
De la Rosa: 1:18.848
Salty
1st February 2010, 9:58
Yep – rather upped the pace there, or took a shortcut!
Jay
1st February 2010, 10:00
This just proves shortcuts in F1 will work :P
Beri
1st February 2010, 10:02
This was set on the short configuration of the Ricardo Tormo track.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 9:57
Quadruple diffusers… fish!!
MarkC
1st February 2010, 12:03
it’s like the razor blade wars, 4 blades, swivel head, smoothing strips etc…
oh, a possible advertising revenue stream opening up!
BABU
1st February 2010, 10:01
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1324378
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1324377
different front wings on the renault and ferrari
sato113
1st February 2010, 12:21
thats because its ferrari’s 2009 car
Rusty
1st February 2010, 10:01
http://www.f1today.nl/live-update/2010/02/01/circuit-de-la-comunitat-valenciana/
is now updating with the times. Its great to see Pedro back as a race driver. I expect him to do well.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 10:01
pedro 1:16.531
fabzx
1st February 2010, 10:02
new rear wing on renault too?
BABU
1st February 2010, 10:06
yea definately looks like its got some bumps on the bottom
Jay
1st February 2010, 10:02
G. Paffett 1:14.359
beaker
1st February 2010, 10:03
it looks like teams are questioning the legality of the Mclaren diffuser. Here we go again…
Victor
1st February 2010, 10:05
surprise surprise!
Vikas
1st February 2010, 10:03
yay mclaren…thanks rusty
Salty
1st February 2010, 10:03
De La Rosa now 1:16:531
Varun Murthy
1st February 2010, 10:03
Times after one hour: 1 Paffett, 1m14.359; 2 De la Rosa, 1m14.898; 3 Kubica 1m16.602s; 4 Barrichello 1,17.004
wdf2
1st February 2010, 10:04
According to the Wikipedia page, the unofficial F1 lap record is 1:08.5 by Anthony Davidson in a 2006 Honda. In 2007, Hamilton was best in 1:09.
Victor
1st February 2010, 10:05
still some ways to go then!
steph90
1st February 2010, 10:05
Here is more live timing http://www.f1-direct.com/include/livegp/we/temp/essais.php
Sorry if this link has been posted before
I recommend twitter for anyone who doesn’t have it. It has been brilliant
http://twitter.jamesallenonf1.com/live
Apologies if this link ahs been posted too
fabzx
1st February 2010, 10:05
I hope ferrari posts a fast time soon
Beri
1st February 2010, 10:06
The diffuser of McLaren will be under investigation by the FIA for its legality.
Victor
1st February 2010, 10:08
hopefully this time we have an outcome before the racing season starts!
any pics of said quadruple diffuser?
steph90
1st February 2010, 10:08
Really? Here we go again then
Rusty
1st February 2010, 10:10
Did anyone see any pictures of this diffuser yet? Would love to have a look at it.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 10:12
Ben – according to who?
Beri
1st February 2010, 10:32
Keith, it is Beri by the way, Ill translate loosely of what I understand of French. Forgive any mistakes, copyright not by me ;-)
Original text from: http://www.f1-direct.com/include/livegp/we/temp/essais.php
“Beaucoup d’interrogation se posent sur la l�galit� du diffuseur de la McLaren.”
Translation:
“McLarens diffuser will be checked on its legality later.”
ajokay
1st February 2010, 10:53
Why later… why not now? All this ‘later’ stuff is what screws everything up.
ahamed
1st February 2010, 11:00
Many question arise concerning the legality of the diffuser of the McLaren.
This is what it means”Beaucoup d�interrogation se posent sur la l�galit� du diffuseur de la McLaren” in english
“Many question arise concerning the legality of the diffuser of the McLaren.
”
Source : Google translator and thye language is french
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 11:18
Haha what a joke.
Maciek
1st February 2010, 15:45
Counterstrike = what a joke. My feelings precisely.
Bernard
1st February 2010, 16:06
Paddy Lowe stated at the launch that they sought FIA guidance during development. They have no problems, a la Brawn last year.
Maciek
1st February 2010, 15:50
French tends to have a lot of subtleties. Can’t find it in the link provided, but reading between the lines of what’s quoted here, it adds up to: “The rumour is that it might be illegal.”
Jay
1st February 2010, 10:08
I hope there won’t be any controversy over car parts this year :(
Vikas
1st February 2010, 10:09
who’s complaining… the people in red?
Jay
1st February 2010, 10:10
typical if it is
steph90
1st February 2010, 10:17
So Ferrari arrive at the track and immediately assumptions are made that they are complaining? I’d say that is pretty typical.
Fair enough if they are saying that but it’s not certain yet. Ferrari weren’t the only ones to have issues with duffusers last year if I remember rightly
Jay
1st February 2010, 10:21
you are right :)
JV
1st February 2010, 10:25
Just check out the name of massa
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.f1today.nl%2Flive-update%2F2010%2F02%2F01%2Fcircuit-de-la-comunitat-valenciana%2F&sl=nl&tl=en
So funny.
David A
1st February 2010, 11:45
Felipe Bulk!
sato113
1st February 2010, 12:24
and guess who’s president of the people who will decide it’s legality? none other than former Ferrari team principle, Jean Todt…
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 12:37
Given there’s no confirmation of any kind of protest yet it’s way to soon to be getting into the conspiracy theories.
steph90
1st February 2010, 14:12
Exactly Keith
TrophyOzzy
1st February 2010, 10:14
Has anyone noticed that Massa appears to be running intermediates and/or wets?! Look closely at the pictures….very odd as it certainly isn’t raining there
Varun Murthy
1st February 2010, 10:17
Wow..awesome observation..hawk eyes.. :)
http://twitpic.com/10u5is ..theres a line running around the middle of the tyre here..
BasCB
1st February 2010, 10:17
Did you notice the tires on de la Rosas Sauber? Those are grooved tires!
James_mc
1st February 2010, 10:40
Look like inters or something, pretty sure you can see texture on them
David
1st February 2010, 10:59
It’s called a shakedown. Nothing to see.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 10:17
that was when he clocked 1:39 or something…he’s definitely back on slicks now
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:18
Massa : 1:14.496
JV
1st February 2010, 10:20
Current standings
1. G. Paffett McLaren MP4-25 1:14.359
2. F. Massa Ferrari F10 1:14.496 +0.137 3. P. de la Rosa BMW C25 1:14.898 +0.539
4. R. Kubica Renault R30 1:18.304 +3.945
5. R. Barrichello Williams FW32 1:18.328 +3.969
6. S. Buemi Tororosso STR5 1:26.395 +12.036
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:20
Nico Rosberg started the test but he seemed to have stopped. God knows why… is there some glitch ?
Victor
1st February 2010, 10:22
would be interesting to see what time schumy does when he gets on track
sumedh
1st February 2010, 10:23
Some closeups of the Mclaren: Borrowed from the James Allen Twitter.
http://twitpic.com/10u7cr
http://twitpic.com/10u7g4
It does look very very different than other cars. They have surely pushed the rules to the edge.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 10:27
Interesting details, especially the vent on the sidepod (those Tweets are from Craig Scarborough by the way).
sumedh
1st February 2010, 10:31
Oh, ok.
That bump above the V of vodafone looks very odd. Isn’t that obviously producing a lot of drag?
JV
1st February 2010, 10:35
At launch they said throughout the designing they were working with the FIA then how it can be illegal. Please correct me if I’m wrong Keith.
Beri
1st February 2010, 10:38
I find the exhaust system more worth to mention. Thats the most narrowest system, the two exhausts being close together insteal of on each side far apart, we have seen since the introduction of the high exhausts.
S Hughes
1st February 2010, 10:27
But they said they were working with the FIA throughout the designing to check if it was within the rules. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was banned though.
Victor
1st February 2010, 10:29
If the FIA knew about it and didn’t advise against…. I don’t see how it would be banned….. just like last year’s double diffuser
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:27
Hope Macca rnt running KERS. he he
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 11:24
Hughes, the power is with Ferrari, they can get mclaren banned if the want to, so…
David A
1st February 2010, 11:48
Come on CounterStrike, you know that isn’t true.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 16:04
They’ve got them banned on many occasions.Just to name a few
Secondary braking system in 97-98, protested against a steering column gearbox in 2000, the so called spygate.
Other instance have been when LDM remarked that even the mp4-23, the car with which hammi boy won the title is a Ferrari & now this.
Its not something new.
How can Ferrari still expect to be competitive after firing people like Brawn,Schumi,Todt,Rory Byrne, Stepheny etc?
The glory days are long gone mate.
David A
1st February 2010, 19:23
No one is buying into all this “glory days are long gone” stuff. Without those guys you mentioned, Ferrari were still very competitive in 2008. 2009 was clearly a blip, for Ferrari AND Mclaren.
Jay
1st February 2010, 10:25
The Renault reminds me of a 1999 Jordan
Jay
1st February 2010, 10:31
Wouldn’t it be a shame if this diffuser costs either Button or Hamilton in the race to becoming World Champion
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:34
Let them be declared illigal first, then only it ll be a hindrance in their WDC campaign.
Dean
1st February 2010, 10:34
Id love to see a little chatroom to get realtime updates. I got one over at mine but my site is dead as a dodo.
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:35
Did Mercedes set any time ?
Salty
1st February 2010, 10:36
Nico just took the Merc back out on track after a long wait with screens in front of the garage – from live NTV news
Jay
1st February 2010, 10:40
Are groove tyres legal now? Why was De La Rosa using them?
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:42
was those grooved tyres or intermediates ?
Jay
1st February 2010, 10:44
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1324376
Looks like grooves to me
David
1st February 2010, 11:22
That’s because you’ve yet to go down to your local optometrist to get yourself a pair of glasses. They’re intermediates.
One word: shakedown.
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:40
R.Kubica Renault 1:15.298
JV
1st February 2010, 10:43
Massa 1:14.006
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:46
is Massa still running intermediates ?
Rusty
1st February 2010, 10:49
Massa just put in a 1:13.522.
That would lead me to believe he is on slicks now.
Rusty
1st February 2010, 10:50
typo: 1:13.552
JV
1st February 2010, 10:50
Massa 1:13.552
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:50
What does this mean and which language is this ?
“Rosberg rentre au stand”
“Massa am�liore ses temps tours apr�s tours”
is this spanish ?
steph90
1st February 2010, 10:51
Looks like French but not sure
Adrian
1st February 2010, 10:53
�Rosberg rentre au stand�
I think that means: “Rosberg re-enters the garage”
It’s definately French…can’t translate the second one except that it’s about Massa and I think “tours” will refer to laps and “apres” is after…so could be something about Massa doing lap after lap…
Rusty
1st February 2010, 10:53
My limited french thinks it translates roughly into:
“Rosberg returns to the pits”
“Massa improves his time lap after lap”
JV
1st February 2010, 10:56
I’m sure it’s French.
ajokay
1st February 2010, 10:57
It is French.
Simon
1st February 2010, 11:25
Yep, French:
“Rosberg returns to the pits”
“Massa is improving his time each lap”
Lutz
1st February 2010, 13:53
it’s french
“Rosberg comes back to the stand (garage, pit)”
“Massa gets better times lap after lap”
steph90
1st February 2010, 10:50
I know testing times mean absolutely nothing right now but it’s so good to see the words ‘p1 Massa’ again
JV
1st February 2010, 10:53
Rosberg’s first stint ends at 1:30.886 after 7 laps
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:57
I think for the later half of the day, Schumi will take over.. right ?
JV
1st February 2010, 11:02
Yes, after break Schumi will take over.
Can’t wait to see how fast he is after 3 years of break.
Gill
1st February 2010, 10:55
Any news on Macca diffusers ?
Ben
1st February 2010, 10:56
Can’t wait for pics of the Williams. Seen a few pop up already, but not enough!
Haven’t been able to find a pic of this supposed McLaren mega-diffuser yet either…..
ahamed
1st February 2010, 11:02
This is what it means
�Beaucoup d�interrogation se posent sur la l�galit� du diffuseur de la McLaren� in english
�Many question arise concerning the legality of the diffuser of the McLaren”.This is mentioned in f1-direct.com website,not a official statement
Source : Google translator and thye language is french
Dan Bigham
1st February 2010, 11:02
Lets not jump to conclusions about the McLaren diffuser until we have seen it, which is not doubt only a few hours away.
And also lets think logically, FIA won’t ban double diffusers, it would hinder the WHOLE grid not just McLaren. Maybe theres an aspect of the McLaren’s diffuser they disagree with, just a singular aspect, i strongly doubt they would have to redesign the whole car, maybe remove a singular channel or somethiong. Until we’ve seen pictures it is all speculation!
TrophyOzzy
1st February 2010, 11:02
Massa now quickest 1m13.552, ahead of Paffett on 1m14.018 and de la Rosa on 1m14.898s
wdf2
1st February 2010, 11:07
Keith, you want to look for the driver that does some hot laps, jumps out of the car, grabs a cell phone, and tells his mother to put her life savings on the WC!
costas
1st February 2010, 11:07
http://www.msfree.gr/ms.php?id=9993 in greek lang
Gill
1st February 2010, 11:08
can anyone see anything ?
http://www.formula1.com/wi/597×478/manual/dmk1001fe58.jpg
MarkC
1st February 2010, 11:25
whats that funnel looking thing above the rear light? You can also see it from the front in this pic that others have posted: http://twitpic.com/10u7cr
Megatetsu
1st February 2010, 11:27
http://f.imagehost.org/0069/Imagasdasde1.png
still hard to see
MarkC
1st February 2010, 11:44
that funnel is also there in the Macca launch pics
MarkC
1st February 2010, 11:48
launch pic with odd funnel above rear light: https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mp4_25_3.jpg
don’t see any other teams with it… then again, no one’s letting the diffuser cat out of the bag as yet…
MarkC
1st February 2010, 13:54
Looks like Merc have the same take on the area directly above the rear light as McLaren: https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/rosb_merc_2010.jpg
looks like a mini wing on the Merc but a funnel with air being fed from somewhere on the McLaren…
MarkC
1st February 2010, 16:17
hummm… bit of googling later and scarbsf1 has a writeup on diffusers, seems McLaren have history with exhaust fed diffusers, could this be that?
sumedh
1st February 2010, 11:11
The RedBull decision to delay its test does seem to have advantages now. There are 2 scenarios:
1. They have made a diffuser similar to Mclare’ns. In which case, they get more time to work on it (or change it so that it is within regulations) while Mclaren probably pursues a legal battle.
2. They haven’t made a diffuser similar to Mclaren’s. And now they can copy it
Adrian
1st February 2010, 11:19
But that would almost certainly take them more than a week…
JV
1st February 2010, 11:12
Rosberg improves to 1:18.228
fabzx
1st February 2010, 11:27
how long do they test today?
Hajnr
1st February 2010, 11:28
What about Renault? Same as yesterday?
Vikas
1st February 2010, 11:35
I’m sorry about my comment on ferrari steph :(
Adrian
1st February 2010, 11:39
How funny would it be if Red Bull turn up at their first test with a BGP001 style nose..!!
wdf2
1st February 2010, 11:40
ScarbsF1 says that Paffett does a 1:11.
Edinfreak
1st February 2010, 11:40
http://twitpic.com/10ud3c
Gary Paffett is also trading times with Massa. He gets into the 1:11s ???!!!??
Victor
1st February 2010, 11:44
probably a typo
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 11:48
That time set by Mclaren is of no worth, its an illegal car that they are running.
Hope Todt swings into action & gets them banned & fines them another 100 million$.
Happy? :|
steph90
1st February 2010, 14:14
I think you have the plot for a good novel there more than anything else :P
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 14:39
Yeah, ur rite . I’ve written many other “plots”(as you call it) on various other forums in the past that turned out to be highly palpable.
wdf2
1st February 2010, 11:46
I think he meant 1:14. F1today.nl’s live update from 3 minutes ago shows (sorry for the spacing):
F. Massa Ferrari F10 1:13.088 26 pit
2. G. Paffett McLaren MP4-25 1:14.018 +0.930 21 pit
3. P. de la Rosa BMW Sauber C25 1:14.435 +1.347 12 pit
4. R. Kubica Renault R30 1:15.298 +2.210 24 pit
5. R. Barrichello Williams FW32 1:15.660 +2.572 26 pit
6. N. Rosberg Mercedes GP MGP W01 1:18.228 +5.140 15 pit
7. S. Buemi Toro Rosso STR5 1:26.395 +13.307 5 pit
fabzx
1st February 2010, 11:46
massa 1:13.088
Speedy Gonzalezzzz
1st February 2010, 11:48
Ferrari with a positive start it seens, would like to compare with Shumacher times in the afternoon.
Happy Birthday Kutigz!
sato113
1st February 2010, 12:37
its the f60!!! the 2009 car. of course it’ll be quicker.
sumedh
1st February 2010, 11:50
Awesome job here Keith. Mindblowing. Never been easier to follow testing. I just refresh this page every 10 minutes, and the latest times are already here.
But I must ask, last week, I just couldn’t logon to f1fanatic. Infact, I even tracked down a comment by you on James Allen’s blog and asked you there. Did you do some server change over the weekend?
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 11:53
Seems so. I’ve not had a single “Error 500” for the past 4-5 days.
Adrian
1st February 2010, 12:01
I got one this morning, but refreshed it and no problems since.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 12:41
Sumedh – yes, there’s an explanation here:
F1 Fanatic round-up: 29/1/2010
Site much quicker and more stable now, still a few problems to fix though.
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 14:11
Many people wants to get the timing from here,that’s why it sometimes get some error,
THANKS KEITH
JV
1st February 2010, 11:52
Massa now 1:13.088
ILoveVettel
1st February 2010, 11:52
Check out the testing pics from f1ive:
http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/laatst-toegevoegd/
ahamed
1st February 2010, 12:02
Please take a look at this photo..look at the cone above drivers head is it split or designed that way.What purpose does it serve?
http://www.f1today.nl/foto/7447/
gabal
1st February 2010, 14:17
It is the feature that appeared on last years car too – seperate cooling inlets for gearbox and other internal components.
JV
1st February 2010, 12:04
Rosberg improves to his personal best 1:15.118
BaKano
1st February 2010, 12:11
Renault has debutted a W-shapped rear wing. This kind of rear wing was mentioned in the past, but this is the first time we see it. This R30 has a different front-wing (although not easily noticeable) and a VERY different rear-wing (W-shapped) thatn the car from the offical launch.
I think we saw a R30 with last year wings, although for sure the car didn’t seem as long as it is specified, but we need to see some side-by-side pics with a bigger 2010 car (like the McLaren or the Ferrari) to check if it is roughly the same dimensions.
Either way, nice stuff from Renault, bringing an old look livery, but an innovative design (in what comes to the rear wing at least)
sumedh
1st February 2010, 12:46
Great info, an you give us the link to a pic?
I tried to find, but no luck
Rusty
1st February 2010, 12:13
Anyone have an idea what they are measuring at Ferrari?
I assume this is just for testing and they wont actually drive around with that on top of the car: http://www.f1today.nl/foto/7452/
Bernard
1st February 2010, 16:54
It’s a pitot tube, so airflow is what they are measuring.
doki830718
1st February 2010, 12:14
There is no possible stream???
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 12:18
There aren’t any as far as I’m aware – if there was I would have put a link in the article.
doki830718
1st February 2010, 12:19
Thanks. When you have any, please let me know. :D
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 13:39
I think someone posted a web cam link to the start-finish line. I’ll search for it right away.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 14:02
Here it is
http://www.comunitatvalenciana.com/webcam/valencia-terra-i-mar-cheste-cheste-0
Vikas
1st February 2010, 12:20
oki doki :)
JV
1st February 2010, 12:20
Standing so far
1.F. Massa 1:13.088
2.G. Paffet 1:14.018
3.P. de la Rosa 1:14.040
4 R. Barrichello 1:14.449
5.N. Rosberg 1:14.753
6.R. Kubica 1:15.298
7.S. Buemi 1:19.279
BasCB
1st February 2010, 12:23
Pedro De la Rosa did 1.13.838 on his last lap
Jasper
1st February 2010, 12:24
Anthony Davidson holds the unofficial lap record, set in 2006 while testing a Honda, with a time of 1m 08.540sec. Obviously it’s hard to read anything into testing but, it’s interesting to know what a really quick time is. It probably suggests that even Massa’s time of 1m 13.088 has been set with a lot of fuel onboard.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 12:24
Pedro did a 1:13:247
BasCB
1st February 2010, 12:26
I think that was Paffet?
BasCB
1st February 2010, 12:29
De la Rosa had to get him, that BMW Sauber is right on the pace.
But what is Renault up to. They did quite some laps but do not want to show real speed?
JV
1st February 2010, 12:29
De la rosa becomes second driver to break into 1:14s mark
1:13.247 for spaniard.
Edinfreak
1st February 2010, 12:29
1. F. Massa Ferrari F10 1:13.088 32
2. P. de la Rosa BMW Sauber C25 1:13.247 +0.159 21
3. G. Paffett McLaren MP4-25 1:14.018 +0.930 30
4. R. Barrichello Williams FW32 1:14.449 +1.361 42
5. N. Rosberg Mercedes GP MGP W01 1:14.753 +1.665 24
6. R. Kubica Renault R30 1:15.298 +2.210 37
7. S. Buemi Toro Rosso STR5 1:19.279 +6.191 8
JV
1st February 2010, 12:33
Rosberg 1:13.543
DanhNguyen
1st February 2010, 12:38
????
5. N. Rosberg Mercedes GP MGP W01 1:14.753 +1.665 24 pit
JV
1st February 2010, 12:39
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motor21.com%2Fnoticia.asp%3Fdt%3D315%26nt%3D79115&sl=es&tl=en
Juat look at 13:30pm
BasCB
1st February 2010, 12:40
That is not his best time:
“13:30 h Rosberg mejora su tiempo: 1:13.543”
from http://www.motor21.com
http://www.f1-direct.fr has this as well
BasCB
1st February 2010, 12:48
Does any of you have an idea what Mercedes are measuring here in this picture?
http://twitpic.com/10uo25
JV
1st February 2010, 12:54
Are they measuring anything???
AusJon
1st February 2010, 12:55
I would say they’re measuring EGT’s and the effect it’s having on the suspension components.
wdf2
1st February 2010, 13:08
Bummer that some kid broke into the garage last night and messed up the wing with that teal spray paint.
spawinte
1st February 2010, 12:50
I thought the exhausts were not allowed to stick out that far?
fox
1st February 2010, 12:52
1 F.Massa 1:13.088
2 P.De la Rosa 1.13.247
3 N.Rosberg 1:13.543
4 G.Paffett 1.14.018
5 R.Barrichello 1.14.449
6 R.Kubica 1:15.298
7 S.Buemi 1:19.279
BasCB
1st February 2010, 12:56
De la Rosa is very consistently lapping between 1.13 and 1.14.. Suppose that is not on these tires: http://twitpic.com/10unwd
I bet the diffusor is pretty good
BasCB
1st February 2010, 12:58
These pictures from F1Lite are pretty good on the point and detailed!
( I follow that on JA on F1 Tweets)
JV
1st February 2010, 13:01
Any idea about which drivers are using intermediates and which are using slik ones?
BasCB
1st February 2010, 13:06
In the morning we saw Felipe Massa on intermediates and De la Rosa on grooved tires (maybe for installation laps only?)
This picture was of De la Rosa on intermediates.
Most other pictures are of cars on slicks, but i am not sure, should have went to spain, to see for myself
Salty
1st February 2010, 13:07
It’s not wet in Valencia. They will all be using slicks to set these times. Might have run an instalation lap or two on inters this morning, but no more.
BasCB
1st February 2010, 13:03
I quite like the new livery on the Toro Rosso, those red bulbs on the nose and the gold in between make it look nice.
Also the position of the cameras as a hammerhead shark (Williams has this as well).
ahamed
1st February 2010, 13:04
Hey guys in formula1.com the diffusers of mclaren,ferrari,mercedes,williams are put up in the gallery section.what do feel?
(the diffusers are big story this season,thats why i want to know..please…!!!!)
Chris
1st February 2010, 13:17
Great spot
Ferrari’s looks very basic, with Sauber and Williams looking the biggest. Mclaren looks very intricate and Mercedes looks pretty small by comparison, unless i’m looking at the wrong bit!
iceshiel
1st February 2010, 13:17
Any photos of the Renault with W wings?
BasCB
1st February 2010, 13:26
here is a link to one picture of that.
http://www.f1today.nl/foto/7449/
what do you think of their diffusor?
http://www.motor21.com/noticia.asp?dt=315&nt=79115
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 13:19
Ok, lets get this straight. McLaren have hardly put in 30 laps with not even a single picture of their so called “extreme” DDD emerging.
McLaren have sort FIA’s advice & clearance during the development of the DDD & from the stories I’ve been reading on various sites, the FIA seem pretty satisfied about it.
So how come that Ferrari are starting to raise suspicion on macca’s ddd even without having a single glance at it?
Two possibilities here:
1) Ferrari have screwed up their ddd design so badly that they prettey well know they will get trampled over by not only McLaren, but other teams as well
2) The FIA headed by Mr Todt must have surely leaked McLaren proprietary to Ferrari.
Otherwise there is no reason to be whinging so early in the morning.
Mark Hitchcock
1st February 2010, 13:26
Obviously Ferrari think they’ve been given different advice regarding the rules.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 13:29
Maybe they didn’t ask the correct questions. And surely this isn’t good for FOTA relationship.
Mark Hitchcock
1st February 2010, 13:31
They shouldn’t have to. The rules should be clear enough that questions don’t need to be asked. And if questions are asked then the same advice should be given to everyone.
You would think that the FIA would have learnt from their mistakes last year but clearly they haven’t.
Adrian
1st February 2010, 13:29
I agree, that it’s too early to be talking about illegal DDD’s or even TDD or QDD’s…
However I don’t think Ferrari (who are at the same track as McLaren) would be waiting for photographs to be posted online to look at their opponents’ cars!!
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 14:07
CounterStrike – where have you got all this stuff about Ferrari complaining about McLaren’s design from?
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 14:14
One of many sources.
http://ferrarif1forum.com/2010/01/29/is-this-the-source-of-the-ferrari-f10b-spec-rumor/
And its always customary of Ferrari to whinge about things during pre-season testing.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 14:30
So nothing specific about McLaren then.
Mark Hitchcock
1st February 2010, 14:14
Quote from Aldo Costa: “We were and still are convinced that the double diffuser concept was illegal. We feel there may still be interpretation over this, as the rules leave the door open to many possibilities. It�s up to the FIA to supervise, but we are rather worried.”
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81128
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 14:20
Mark, he also remarks in one other interview that he knows “AT LEAST ONE OTHER TEAM” that might have stretched the current diffuser rule interpretation too far.
And might not adhere to the “Sprite of the Rules”
Very rich.
Mark Hitchcock
1st February 2010, 13:20
I dunno if it’s been mentioned already but the BBC are providing occasional text updates from the test.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8491190.stm
iceshiel
1st February 2010, 13:22
Okay i just found photos of Renault’s wing. Looks interesting.
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/photolarge.php?photoID=144464&catID=4597
Salty
1st February 2010, 13:27
Looking like a gull wing.
JV
1st February 2010, 13:26
I think teams are breaking for lunch right now.
Salty
1st February 2010, 13:30
No, been recent track action, Parfett and De La Rosa just had short runs. Schumacher due out shortly…
Dean
1st February 2010, 13:39
Wing does look odd, but i can imagine creating the wing shape will a little less drag.
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 13:39
Man, stupid school district blocks all of the pics and times. Does anybody know how renault is doing, have they improved?
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 13:46
I think they have gone for launch.Schumacher may come on track on the second session.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 13:50
Which launch? I thought all the launches were over.
Ned Flanders
1st February 2010, 13:51
He means lunch. Surely you knew that…
John H
1st February 2010, 14:16
When’s the USF1 lunch?
Mark Hitchcock
1st February 2010, 14:21
At least another 3 or 4 hours. But I heard they don’t actually have any real food. It’s all cardboard and plastic.
Adrian
1st February 2010, 14:23
So a McDonalds tie-in then…
ajokay
1st February 2010, 14:42
I had lasagne for lunch. It was tasty.
varun
1st February 2010, 18:17
@counterstrike….you don’t always need to be a jerk…..No body will believe that you didn’t understand what he mean…..all your BS comments.
Ned Flanders
1st February 2010, 13:49
Hello everyone (this feels a bit like a live blog!). I missed the morning testing, did anything interesting happen?
Ned Flanders
1st February 2010, 13:50
Oh, and Jezson’s Toro Rosso livery has been cited on another blog:
http://f1colours.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/first-day-of-testing-sees-more-cars-roll-out/
luigismen
1st February 2010, 16:49
What a shame about the Toro Rosso livery, I was hoping so bad for that sugar free car
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 13:54
so does anybody know when they’ll resume, or is it an unoficial break with an unoficial starting time?
Megatetsu
1st February 2010, 13:55
Toro Rosso with gearbox problems. Not a good start.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 14:04
Sauber have had a cooling problem as well.
Tim
1st February 2010, 15:20
Not unusual for new cars to have teething problems – this is why you go testing!
Stuart
1st February 2010, 13:56
If anyone wanted to see the Mclaren diffuser in more detail…
http://f.imagehost.org/0656/Picture_4b.jpg
Looks like they’ve really maximised what they can get away with, fingers crossed…
John H
1st February 2010, 14:08
It’s great that in such situations, we have a completely independent head of the FIA in Ari Vatanen…
Oh hang on!
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 14:16
Stuart, the image doesn’t seem to show up. Sure about the link?
JV
1st February 2010, 13:57
Schumacher almost ready to start testing.
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 14:00
Why do Ferrari and McLaren have those ridiculous poles sticking out from the top of their cars, it looks comical!
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 14:02
Oh ok nevermind, I think I know what it is.
BBT
1st February 2010, 14:03
G. Paffett – lowered his time to 1:13.84 ???
Is that right?
fox
1st February 2010, 14:05
yes, it is.
Paffett – 1:13.846
JV
1st February 2010, 14:06
Yes,absolutely.
theo
1st February 2010, 14:06
have mclaren got an illegal diffuser? whats all the hype already?
fox
1st February 2010, 14:09
Too soon to make any guesses, I suppose.
Anyway, the diffuser looks really complex.
http://img3.imageshack.us/i/dddyxw.jpg
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 14:17
It says 404 Not Found!
Salty
1st February 2010, 14:07
Massa back on track
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 14:08
Where do you get the info?
Matt
1st February 2010, 14:11
http://www.motor21.com/noticia.asp?dt=315&nt=79115
JV
1st February 2010, 14:08
Massa 1:12.842
BBT
1st February 2010, 14:12
Massa two laps in the 1:12’s
theo
1st February 2010, 14:12
looks like mclaren have got the jump on everybody with the diffuser
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 14:15
Latest from the web
1 F.Massa Ferrari 1:12.842
2 P.De la Rosa Sauber 1:13.247
3 N.Rosberg Mercedes 1:13.543
4 G.Paffett McLaren 1:13.846
5 R.Barrichello Williams 1.14.449
6 R.Kubica Renault 1:15.298
7 S.Buemi Toro Rosso 1:19.279
Schumacher still to come out of the pit.
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 14:16
Any idea where I can get English commentary.
JV
1st February 2010, 14:19
You can translate these pages using google translate.It’s the only way.
Bartholomew
1st February 2010, 14:18
1:12:842 Felipe flying with the Spaguetti Special
Bartholomew
1st February 2010, 14:20
If they swith to black wheels they will go slower.
The silver wheels are much nicer looking, worth 0.2 seconds a lap.
Salty
1st February 2010, 14:28
Schumi coming out to play…
steph90
1st February 2010, 14:33
Anyone got a good live timing link? I can’t get the others to work and I had to go to uni so I’ve lost the ones I was using
Bartholomew
1st February 2010, 14:38
Here you go bro�
http://www.motor21.com/noticia.asp?dt=315&nt=79115
steph90
1st February 2010, 14:34
Oh I found an interesting tweet from @byronf1 Nico Rosberg has handed over to Michael Schumacher but he is taking a while getting out on the circuit. Rosberg was not as calm as usual.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 14:35
Now pedro goes 1:12.784….
fox
1st February 2010, 14:35
De la Rosa – 1:12.784
Vikas
1st February 2010, 14:36
Hi steph…read that… but I don’t know what he meant by nico not being calm…
steph90
1st February 2010, 14:38
Me either. Suppose if want to really stretch it then it could suggest he’s not entirely comfortable knowing Schumi was waiting for a go. Big strecth and most likely he was just trying to get to grips with the car and fuel etc. but it will be interesting to see how this linem up plays out
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 14:48
Vikas, Keke’s at the test & looks cross himself. So…
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6394/aviaryformula1compictur.png
What baffles me is that McLaren are the only team to have allowed their reserve driver to test.
Good sign for macca hopefuls :)
Tim
1st February 2010, 15:23
McLaren are planning to run 15 days of testing – Paffett gets the first run so Button and Hamilton get 7 days each.
Sunny
1st February 2010, 14:37
Anyone know if there’s any video feeds for this… ?
Don’t mind if it’s got a foreign language over the top but I’d like to watch
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 14:43
NTV are showing some stuff occasionally:
http://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/livestream/
Sunny
1st February 2010, 14:49
thanks :]
btw, im finally following f1fanatic on twitter (noobhands)
ScarbF1
1st February 2010, 14:37
From @NobleF1:
Michael Schumacher’s first three laps in the car. 1,18.331s; 1m15.907s; 1m14.998s. Quicker than Kubica already
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 14:39
Michael Schumacher times for the first three laps
1,18.331s; 1m15.907s; 1m14.998s.
He didn’t rusted!
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 14:42
Schumacher 1.14.250 five min back.
steph90
1st February 2010, 14:39
We can’t know about fuel loads though. This is always going to be a tough call. That said this is Schumi so I don’t see why they would send him out of lightn fuel to pump up his ego unless they really had an area they wanted to look at
Vikas
1st February 2010, 14:42
hmm… kinda gives the impression nico’s not happy about a few things…anyway, early days to speculate too
Becken
1st February 2010, 14:42
Keith: live blogging, please!
steph90
1st February 2010, 14:49
Ohh Becken took the words right out of my mouth! There’s 4 pages worth of comments so I think people would definately use the live blogs :P
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 15:11
Hey! Guys stop posting these lap times every 2 min or so, we can look it up for ourselves from the sites Keith’s provided link to. All these times pretty much mean nothing. Its only gobbling up server space.
Maybe once in 15 min would be a good idea.
Adrian
1st February 2010, 15:16
Please DON’T stop posting updated times. Some of us are at work so it’s useful to have 1 site that we can just refresh every 10 or 15 minutes to keep up to date…
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 14:57
Could do but we’ll need a lot of moderators. We use six or seven for race coverage which takes three hours, and we’re looking at nine hours here. If you’re happy to moderate a live blog for testing email me and I’ll see if I can set one up.
To be honest, I expect interest to drop a bit after today when there are fewer new cars appearing.
steph90
1st February 2010, 15:01
Keith where is that calendar link and I’ll check dates for testing and let you know if/when I can offer my services as a mod
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 15:08
F1 Fanatic Google Calendar
steph90
1st February 2010, 16:09
Thanks Keith :)
Dean
1st February 2010, 14:43
I think Schumi is genuinely fast. People are hoping he cant put in the laptimes. Although im a mclaren boy. I still want schumi to be fast to contest with the like of Hamilton Vettel Button.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 14:44
Looks like Schumi’s out there just to do some quick laps today…
Salty
1st February 2010, 14:48
1 P.De la Rosa Sauber 1:12.784 39
2 F.Massa Ferrari 1:12.842 50
3 N.Rosberg Mercedes 1:13.543 39
4 G.Paffett McLaren 1:13.846 53
5 M.Schumacher Mercedes 1:14.250 5
6 R.Barrichello Williams 1.14.449 42
7 R.Kubica Renault 1:15.298 37
8 S.Buemi Toro Rosso 1:19.279 10
Good job from Schumi to be within 8 tenths of team mate after 3 years and five laps. Might be lighter fuel though…
fantasticplanet
1st February 2010, 14:52
Didn’t Toyota release a multi deck diffuser midway through last season? Additionally, they also had an air channel above the light extending from the gearbox where they exploited the rule about extra bodywork close to the car’s centerline? If they did all that, bravo Toyota- another manufacturer that shoulda stayed in the sport.
Also, two ferrari powered cars top lap times?
DanThorn
1st February 2010, 16:27
I think they did, yes – I remember them being very secretive about it during one of Martin Brundle’s grid walks early last year.
sky
1st February 2010, 14:56
De la Rosa (BMW Sauber): 1:12.784 (51 laps)
Massa (Ferrari): 1:12.842 (71 laps)
Rosberg (Mercedes GP): 1:13.543 (39 laps)
Paffett (McLaren): 1:13.846 (60 laps)
Schumacher (Mercedes GP): 1:14.255 (9 laps)
Barrichello (Williams): 1:14.449 (60 laps)
Kubica (Renault): 1:15.298 (50 laps)
Buemi (Toro Rosso): 1:19.279 (10 laps)
Dean
1st February 2010, 14:56
Anyone know whos testing at Silverstone on Thur Friday?
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 14:57
Virgin apparently.
Dean
1st February 2010, 15:03
thanks, no one else? Otherwise i wont make the effort to pop down and watch.
Tim
1st February 2010, 15:24
I think it’s intended as a shakedown rather than a full on test session.
sato113
1st February 2010, 15:00
i’ve got to say from looking at the gallery on autosport, we’ve got some good looking cars this year!
(click ‘next’ from here)-
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1324373
Edinfreak
1st February 2010, 15:00
Valencia videos in here now
http://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/livestream/
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 15:05
Schumacher 1’13.840
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 15:07
Schumi: 1:13.574
Rosberg 1:13.543
Rusty
1st February 2010, 15:07
1:15.595 extremely close to Rosberg.
He seems to still have the speed. Which I expected
Rusty
1st February 2010, 15:08
aarrrggghhh of course that should be 1:13.595
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 15:12
Can’t understand language,who did 1:13.498 Schumi?
sky
1st February 2010, 15:12
yes, he did.
ScarbF1
1st February 2010, 15:13
Some lap times from Schumacher:
1:18.331
1:15.907
1:14.998
1:14.255
1:13.840
1:13.595
1:13.574
1:13.498 = faster than Rosberg
Schumacher is currently 3rd overall
Edinfreak
1st February 2010, 15:13
Shumi – 1:13.498 – 3rd fastest already!
Victor
1st February 2010, 15:16
Interesting that no one’s really commented on the fact that de la rosa was pretty much out of an F1 car almost as much as Schumi and also seems to have the pace, in a team that has gone through alot of uncertainty in the run up to today’s practice
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 15:18
I think the difference is Schumi is the most popular driver out there.I feel good that somebody have spotted it.
Adrian
1st February 2010, 15:28
Or the most unpopular… ;-)
sato113
1st February 2010, 15:20
agreed. glad i’m a sauber fan atm.
sky
1st February 2010, 15:21
You’re right. Pedro is being impressive. The problem is that, for now, we can’t compare it with the team-mate =)
three4three
1st February 2010, 15:28
It’s definitely been noted, he’s doing good and I look forward to seeing how Kobayashi compares, on Wednesday is it?
Rusty
1st February 2010, 15:26
Good point, I am extremely happy to see de la Rosa racing again. And the times today make you wonder if the teams are right to go for young talent ;-)
iCrispy
1st February 2010, 15:30
The difference is de la Rosa has been testing F1 cars at McLaren for years whereas Schumacher has retired completely from the sport but for a handful of tests for Ferrari in 2007…and he’s older.
damjan006
1st February 2010, 15:17
It seems like we have the old schumi back for real
iceshiel
1st February 2010, 15:25
It is just testing so I dont think any of you should be reading too much into the track timings.
TommyB
1st February 2010, 15:25
That Renault looks awesome on track. Same with the new STR :)
Beri
1st February 2010, 15:26
Incredible. Almost beyond believe. Someone has been out of competition for over 3 years, and has found his way back into the field. With an astonishing feat of impressive pace he immediately pushes away his new teammate to rank 2 in the team.
How incredible is this record holder? “Der rote baron” is back, and how!
I have always disliked him for his unprofessional behaviour sometimes during his first Formula 1 life. And in matter of fact I never have been a fan of him. But now, Im glad that he is back.
Beri
1st February 2010, 15:30
Addition: And ofcourse de la Rosa is great. But are the raw speeds of the Sauber and Ferrari accurate? Arent they maybe on light setups, because I havent seen them doing long runs at all.
The comparison between Rosberg and Schumacher is ofcourse much more interesting, because they drive the same car. So for today, thats the nicest battle to watch.
three4three
1st February 2010, 15:32
Remember this is just the first day of testing…
Adrian
1st February 2010, 15:32
I know what you mean. I can’t wait to (hopefully) see Hamilton beating him…
Nick Somebody
1st February 2010, 15:43
I think your getting too excited.
-you don’t know what the fuel loads are (there is going to be a HUGE variation in lap time based on fuel load this year).
-you don’t know what tyres are being used and the amount of laps they have done.
-you don’t know what they are doing in their testing program.
-you don’t know how the track temp and wind has changed. it was windy to begin with. i saw that in some video on youtube.
-It’s natural that through the day you improve your setup.
I’m expecting Schumacher to beat Rosberg and to be on good form this year, but it’s all to soon to say that he has destroyed Rosberg or anything like that.
:-)
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 15:48
yeah. what nick says is true. Someone like Paffet might be actually runnig 50-60 laps worth of fuel & Schumi 5-10 laps.
Its just too difficult to gauge. But I think McLaren have done their homework likewise some of the other teams.
Schumi might actually be running ultra light. Its all speculation.
Chris P
1st February 2010, 15:53
And the track is getting ‘rubbered’ in.
Maciek
1st February 2010, 15:58
All true, but of course none of us believed Brawn’s pace right off the bat last year…
Nick Somebody
1st February 2010, 16:35
I believed it after they were fastest or close to fastest at every test.
I think you need to treat it like political polling or economic data. a single opinion pole can be off by say 10%, but if you average all the polls done over a 3 month period then you get some solid results.
I’m going to wait till more laps have been done and both team cars are on the track at the same time before i come to any conclusions.
Maciek
1st February 2010, 18:29
I would say that that’s a very reasonable approach.
nemo
1st February 2010, 15:28
must admit. that renault does look good out on track..!
bring on hamilton :)
sumedh
1st February 2010, 15:41
I think the rumors of Ferrari being offpace might be true. I had expected Massa to decimate the likes of De La Rosa and Paffet. And Massa will have definitely gone for a few low-fuel runs on the first day back after several months for the qualifying expert.
As a Ferrari fan, things look grim :-|
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 15:44
But you can’t read too much into these times you know..
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 15:53
And usually drivers don’t set in their ultra low fuel lap until the late evenings, when the track would have rubbered down completely.
You shouldn’t bee too concerned just by look at the lap times. Still plenty of time.
steph90
1st February 2010, 19:49
Agree with CounterStrike. We can’t know anything for certain (that is becoming my ‘for sure’ ) yet.
bwells
1st February 2010, 23:10
top of the sheet on the first day… which of course means nothing… but already things look grim??… lol… I would be worried if they were at the back… but not overly… :)
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 15:46
So, Kubica with upwards of 50 laps and yet he still can’t beat his very sad 1:15 lap time? I hope they fix this and quick!
Chris P
1st February 2010, 15:49
Worrying for STR, only 10 laps completed so far. Next lowest is BMW & Merc with 62 laps so far. With testing so limited every day will count.
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 15:53
Pedro 1.12.784,
Massa 1.12.832,
Schumacher 1.13.449,
Roseberg 1.13.543,
Paffett 1.13.846,
Barrichello 1.14.449,
Kubica 1.15,
Buemi 1.19.279
Kris
1st February 2010, 15:58
I remember when Jacques first tested the Renault in 2004 and popped up to 2nd or 3rd overall and everyone was exclaiming “JV’s back..and hasn’t lost it at all!”.
Hopefully that says it all about testing.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 16:10
But Schumi is not JV, he is undisputedly the greatest driver ever to have tested on 2/1/2010.
Torg
1st February 2010, 15:59
Hi,
Whats with the huge thing on top of the Ferrari’s air intake?? For some weird reason i quite like the look of it.
fantasticplanet
1st February 2010, 16:08
Testing air speed; looks to me they’re assessing the feasibility of a shark fin engine cover.
Regarding the lap times and pessimism from the ferrari fan. In principle, what you’re saying is that Massa should murder Paffett and De La Rosa since they’re simply test drivers and have had less experience. In that sense, Barrichello should be the fastest as he was in the wdc race up until brazil.
They’re just setting up the cars and testing various set ups, I think massa is acquainting himself with his new friend the f10, it’s not long ago that we were questioning whether or not he’d race again and, personally, I’m quite glad he’s back in the seat.
Bahnstormer
1st February 2010, 16:09
It’s a periscope !
“fire Tubes 1 and 2 !!!!”
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 16:09
Is there a picture of Renaults diffuser anywhere? I wonder what is causing the car to go so slow. If I were Renault, I’d pull Kubica back into the pits and make try some new aero parts, that is if they have any.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 16:11
I think it’s too soon to be worrying about that.
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 16:13
Yeah I geuss but if you look at it, STR is the only car slower than them, and they had gearbox problems!
sky
1st February 2010, 16:14
Not anymore…
Buemi – 1:14.762.
Tim
1st February 2010, 18:27
It’s the first day of testing – Renault may not be going for out and out speed. With a new car it’s more important to make sure all the systems are working correctly and that there aren’t any serious problems with cooling or exhaust gas temperatures.
I’d be surprised if any of the teams are trying to set ultra-quick lap times at this stage. A systems check and getting a baseline setup are the most you can probably hope for.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 16:32
Here you go polishboy
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5557/r30c.jpg
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 16:15
Check out this Ferrari diffuser, its extreme for sure.
http://i48.tinypic.com/2m2w00z.jpg
MarkC
1st February 2010, 16:19
it finds your lack of faith disturbing.
Adrian
1st February 2010, 16:19
Use the downforce Luca…
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 16:15
SEE!!!!! This is so frustrating! Why can’t Kubica just find a good team?
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 16:20
Hey! Chill out man. Its just the first day. Surely they’ll find some more pace as they progress.
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 16:21
Yes i know….
steph90
1st February 2010, 16:15
Ftropm twiotter @JRobertsF1 F1 Racing has heard from a number of sources today that Campos has been sold. Just trying to verify it now
steph90
1st February 2010, 16:16
*from twitter. Sorry got a bit excited :P
Vikas
1st February 2010, 16:16
Ok looks like everyone’s doing a low fuel run now..
BBT
1st February 2010, 16:17
Pos — LTime — + — Laps — Driver — Team
1 — 1:12.650 — 0.000 — 89 laps — F. Massa ———– Ferrari
2 — 1:12.784 — 0.134 — 62 laps — PM de la Rosa — BMW Sauber
3 — 1:13.273 — 0.623 — 23 laps — M. Schumacher — GP Mercedes
4 — 1:13.543 — 0.893 — 39 laps — N. Rosberg ——— GP Mercedes
5 — 1:13.846 — 1.196 — 77 laps — G. Paffett ———– McLaren
6 — 1:14.449 — 1.799 — 75 laps — R. Barrichello —— Williams
7 — 1:15.000 — 2.350 — 69 laps — R. Kubica ———– Renault
8 — 1:16.333 — 3.683 — 11 laps — S. Buemi ————- Toro Rosso
*Laps Approx.
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 16:17
Wait did it just end?
JoeE
1st February 2010, 16:17
1.F. Massa 1:12.574
2.P. de la Rosa 1:12.784
3.M. Schumacher 1:13.321
4.N. Rosberg 1:13.543
5.G. Paffett 1:13.846
6.R. Barrichello1:14.449
7.R. Kubica 1:15.298
8.S. Buemi 1:16.333
doki830718
1st February 2010, 16:19
Schumi: 1:12:947
sato113
1st February 2010, 16:24
who’s right? you or joeE?
three4three
1st February 2010, 16:42
I think doki830718.
http://www.f1today.nl/live-update/2010/02/01/circuit-de-la-comunitat-valenciana/
three4three
1st February 2010, 16:19
So it’s over now? And any info on Schumi’s alleged short-cut run which was disallowed?
sato113
1st February 2010, 19:07
don’t worry, the FIA helped him out. ;)
Torg
1st February 2010, 16:19
Im not paying any attention to laps times today, unless you work for a team there is no way of knowing who is showing their true colours. I wouldnt be suprised if no one puts up a competitive time that you can read into.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 16:28
Wish eveyrone over here understand what you are saying.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 16:20
Haha schumacher took a shortcut and did a 1:08 something and his time was disallowed …..already practicing his tricks
ghoi
1st February 2010, 16:26
He missed a chicane… can happen to anyone, I suppose. He was probably pushing hard.
Tod Fod
1st February 2010, 17:25
lol. Its the only way he is going to show his competitiveness this season. He will be the only driver that will be allowed to use Bernie’s shortcuts in f1.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 16:21
Combo Pic of all the diffusers.
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9302/26056891.jpg
polishboy808
1st February 2010, 16:23
Wow mclaren has a complex diffuser! It seems that Ferrari amd Renault have the simpelest.
Phil
1st February 2010, 17:27
sauber looks even more extreme
sato113
1st February 2010, 19:09
why is it so bad quality?
U2
1st February 2010, 16:22
@Vikas
Schumi hasn’t lost any of it :)
Vikas
1st February 2010, 16:22
Thanks counterstrike :)
BBT
1st February 2010, 16:23
Pos — Driver — Lap Time — + — Team
1 — F. Massa — 1:12.574 — 0.000 — Ferrari
2 — PM de la Rosa — 1:12.784 — 0.210 — BMW Sauber
3 — M. Schumacher — 1:12.947 — 0.373 — GP Mercedes
4 — N. Rosberg — 1:13.543 — 0.969 — GP Mercedes
5 — G. Paffett — 1:13.846 — 1.272 — McLaren
6 — R. Barrichello — 1:14.449 — 1.875 — Williams
7 — R. Kubica — 1:14.762 — 2.188 — Renault
8 — S. Buemi — 1:16.333 — 3.759 — Toro Rosso
Thats how I make it but could be wrong, interesting last 10 min.
doki830718
1st February 2010, 16:23
SCHUMI’S BEST TIME: 1:12:947
Speedy Gonzalezzzz
1st February 2010, 16:24
Shumacher got nervous wacthing his previous team mate in front of him!
From my foint of view the 2 powered Ferrari teams have the best times and Cosworth, well, a wrong choice.
This is not even a race or qualifying and the motor just implodes, let�s see their solution for this!
Anyone knows about any details of the new McLaren difuser, any images?
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 16:26
Here you go
http://i.imgur.com/ZTfg0.jpg
the-muffin-man
1st February 2010, 16:30
http://twitpic.com/10vgv8
mani
1st February 2010, 16:33
http://twitpic.com/10vgv8
another view here
fantasticplanet
1st February 2010, 16:24
So, what design features of the cars does everyone prefer aesthetically?
SamS
1st February 2010, 16:51
Macca’s exhausts, i think they look beautiful…. my god i need to get out more!
sato113
1st February 2010, 19:10
liveries. for sure.
U2
1st February 2010, 16:26
Here’s what the translator throws up
Felipe Massa (Ferrari): 1:12.574 (102 returns)
**Of the Rose (BMW Sauber): 1:12.784 (74 returns) Schumacher (Mercedes GP): 1:12.947 (40 returns)
Rosberg (Mercedes GP): 1:13.543 (39 returns)
Paffett (McLaren): 1:13.846 (86 returns)
Barrichello (Williams): 1:14.449 (75 returns)
Buemi (Toro Rosso): 1:14.762 (18 returns)
Kubica (Renault): 1:15.00 (69 returns)
** funny indeed
Speedy Gonzalezzzz
1st February 2010, 16:26
Foint = point, sorry guys!
Speedy Gonzalezzzz
1st February 2010, 16:28
Thanks, CounterStrike!
This difuser seens a little exagerated, does anyone agree with me?
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 16:34
I am pretty much sure this is a decoy diffuser. The final one is very different.
Giuliano Vilela
1st February 2010, 16:29
Felipe baby is back on shape! What a year for F1
three4three
1st February 2010, 16:35
I’m well chuffed for him, welcome back Felipe!
steph90
1st February 2010, 16:39
It’ll be good for his confidence but we don’t know where the cars are. All the times could be artificial, it isn’t like qualifying and until he’s in the Ferrari in qualifying and race up against Alonso then we won’t know for certain where he is.
I am glad his name is at the top though. It’s been a long and frankly dreadful wait for his return.
three4three
1st February 2010, 16:50
Exactly as you say, but today would have been a (perhaps much needed) good confidence boost for him so it’s all good for now.
As for determining where all the teams are at the moment, it’s a pretty useless exercise without knowing the details (fuel, tyres, set up etc etc) so I’ll personally leave it at that and look forward to the next couple of days. Just 40days until Bahrain! :)
Giuliano Vilela
1st February 2010, 16:53
Yeah, I agree 100%. Don’t care much about the times, just that he can give his best once again at the tracks.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 16:31
A thermal image of Mclaren diffuser
http://i.imgur.com/gv3Tb.png
Tango
1st February 2010, 17:00
I’d like to know the reflectivity (sorry, is that the right english word?) of the materials. If all of this is carbon fiber and “glue”, thermal images don’t mean much(especially if you compare carbon fiber and metal with a IR camera as I believe the pic comes from etc…)
Tango
1st February 2010, 17:01
Great image though :)
David B
1st February 2010, 16:33
These lap times means nothing, or almost nothing. I remember last year Ferrari and BMW looked fast during pre season session, and we all know how it got finished…
Anyway it is “spicy” that Schumi is 6 tenths faster than his team mate…
Alex-Malta
1st February 2010, 19:40
Don’t forget that Nico has driven the car in the morning with the initial shakedown and the track still at it’s worst.
Still think that michael will have the upper hand in the team.
Jasper
1st February 2010, 16:34
There’s nothing to suggest there’s anything wrong with that Ferrari, quite the opposite in fact it’s been up around the top of the time sheets all day. However if you’re a Toro Rosso fan, things don’t look too promising. But it’s early days yet, but you get the impression that Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes are all there or there abouts. No one car has blitzed any of the others like when Brawn turned up for their first test at Barcelona last year, so that’s promising for a close exciting season! But we haven’t seen what Red Bull have yet…
Speedy Gonzalezzzz
1st February 2010, 16:35
These times don�t mean nothing, unless Shumacher was with much less fuel in the car to impress today!
ajokay
1st February 2010, 16:56
What makes you think that he had to have far less fuel in the car to keep up with the others?
Skett
1st February 2010, 17:47
I’m guessing he means to be 6 tenths quicker than nico
steph90
1st February 2010, 16:35
JRobertsF1: Official: Ferrari test driver Giancarlo Fisichella will race in the Le Mans Series this year
three4three
1st February 2010, 16:39
That’s too bad, but at least he was/is able to finish his F1 career at Ferrari. Best of luck to him in LM.
Speedy Gonzalezzzz
1st February 2010, 16:36
Yes, all teams will have a new aero package for the first race!
mani
1st February 2010, 16:39
It would have been great if RBR had turned up for today’s test!!
f1geek
1st February 2010, 16:43
Michael driving the new mercedes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bJ0I-5Ea-Q
mike
1st February 2010, 16:44
does anyone know the driver line up for tomorrow?
Speedy Gonzalezzzz
1st February 2010, 16:46
Ferrari – Massa
Mercedes – Shumacher
mike
1st February 2010, 16:47
oh are they the only teams running tomorrow?
thank you speedy :)
sugoi
1st February 2010, 16:46
Rosberg answering a question today:
“Q: What was your fuel load on Monday morning?
NR: I honestly cannot make any comment on that. What I can say is that it was a significant fuel load. I was not running on low fuel if that answers your question.”
Torg
1st February 2010, 16:48
The cars look aproximately a billion times better without those horrid revolving wheel discs that was used last year.
TeviotMoose
1st February 2010, 16:53
Is it me, or does that Renault have a lovely curved underside to it’s rear wing that the others don’t?
Will that have any (significant) effect?
Sorry if this has already been discussed!
mike
1st February 2010, 16:54
i think the shape of the car is much better! its that thin rear wing that still taking some getting used to! does anyone know when lewis and button are testing? it’ll be nice to see the times.
three4three
1st February 2010, 17:09
Lewis tomorrow, Button on Wednesday.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 16:56
Mclaren may be sandbagging..
Giuliano Vilela
1st February 2010, 16:57
Omg. It’s 2009 again.
Red Andy
1st February 2010, 17:33
Bit early to talk about McLaren’s fortunes just yet. We’ll know they’re in trouble when Joe Saward keeps insisting: “Don’t worry, they’re sandbagging….”
mike
1st February 2010, 16:57
1st February Gary
2nd February Lewis
3rd February Jenson
i dont think anyone will be sand bagging on the first day and also dont forget Gary is the only test driver there today so he’s not going to be as fast as lewis or jenson.
Vikas
1st February 2010, 16:58
Damn… rosberg is miffed about something
mike
1st February 2010, 16:59
thats what i thought. very short answers in his interview.
Ned Flanders
1st February 2010, 16:59
Wow, there’s been more than 450 comments on testing today. Is that a new record for one of your articles Keith?
It’s just hit me how much I’m missing proper F1. The winter break has been bearable so far but now I just can’t wait for Bahrain!
Speedy Gonzalezzzz
1st February 2010, 17:03
Mainly, because in 6 laps we beat times of the majority of all drivers!
Don�t forget that teams have to know how the car behaves with less fuel in the car as well!
Let�s give some time and see here he his in the timesheets!
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 17:11
Some video from turn one featuring all of the cars except, I think, the Mercedes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4z2Vx6hniw
luigismen
1st February 2010, 17:20
great video!
K
1st February 2010, 18:13
So what’s that on top of the Ferrari then?
Dean
1st February 2010, 17:12
Id love a live blog tomorrow Keith. I can expect this to be busier tomorrow because of hamilton on track.
Marc
1st February 2010, 17:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bJ0I-5Ea-Q
Only 2010 car video i can find. Not very good but yeah lol.
Speedy Gonzalezzzz
1st February 2010, 17:22
Thanks Keith, you�re a star!
I am looking forward to see Hamilton tomorrow to see where the McLaren stands compared with the others!
Marc Connell
1st February 2010, 17:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4z2Vx6hniw
and this. heres a video
Marc Connell
1st February 2010, 17:38
QUESTION: Because of cars weight etc at start of the race. When they come down to like half the fuel. are they allowed to put on a different front wing for less down force so they can go even faster without fuel? or do they have to stick with the same front wing they started of with?
Tim
1st February 2010, 18:31
There wouldn’t be much point – the front wing can be adjusted at pitstops to take account of the fuel load becoming lighter.
Maciek
1st February 2010, 18:42
That’s a pretty good question, actually. You would think there would be clear regulations on that but, but to quote Murray Walker, in Formula anything can happen and….
K
1st February 2010, 20:44
I guess the question is can you change a front wing that isn’t damaged (or any piece of the car for that matter)?
I reckon you can but I haven’t checked the rules.
three4three
1st February 2010, 21:20
I was just about to reply stating that due to parc ferme I would imagine that teams cannot change an undamaged wing (or parts after qualifying), but having given a bit more thought I have no idea! Very good question Marc. Anyone know?
Nano Rock
1st February 2010, 17:39
The majority of the cars seem creatures of Adrian Newey
steph90
1st February 2010, 18:06
Apparnatly there was a moment where Massa and Schumi were on track together and waving to each other. Wish could have seen that
Bruce Wayne F1
1st February 2010, 18:08
Not too sure why everyone is making a big deal about Schumacher being ‘on the pace’ (a term i use as loosely as possible)after three years out of the cockpit, when a guy (Pedro) who’s last full F1 season was 7 years ago is ‘faster’ (again, loose term as these times really don’t mean anything)…
spawinte
1st February 2010, 18:48
Uh oh now you’ve done it, I can hear the horde coming, you’re on your own mate.
Jarred Walmsley
1st February 2010, 23:13
Yes, but Pedro has consistently tested where as Schumacher has not
Jagged
1st February 2010, 18:47
Nico Rosberg: “Generally everything felt good although I was sitting too low in the car and couldn�t see the track very well which we will improve for tomorrow”
They tried sitting him on a Valencia Phone Book but it was too thin so they’ve sent for one from Madrid :-) :-)
inc0mmunicado
1st February 2010, 18:48
Look at the overhead pic of the Renault being backed into the garage. Are those chrome steel suspension members on the rear?
Maciek
1st February 2010, 18:53
Any news on Renault specs – in particular: car length compared to R29, and how that compares to the other cars…? That whole discussion yesterday didn’t really come up with anything clear. Is the Renault significantly shorter than the others? The Mercedes doesn’t seem too long either.
Catalina :)
1st February 2010, 19:08
Is just me or people are getting mad about these lap times?
Just saying ._.
inc0mmunicado
1st February 2010, 19:14
Are the front wheel nuts/axles sticking out on the Ferrari, Williams and STR?
Chaz
1st February 2010, 19:21
Great stuff. Roll on Bahrain. Why does F1.com not have the timings for this. It really boggles the mind…
Peter
1st February 2010, 19:21
Hey guys,
thanks for bringing us the high-res pics, seems there is no other good apart your site! Any chance that you post some Sauber pics, love that car ;)
thanks
Salty
1st February 2010, 19:26
Loved Rubens this quote:-
Rubens Barrichello was asked if he had any advice to give Rosberg up against Schumi: “Yeah. Get out of there!”
Thx to Jon Noble for that one. My nom for quote of the day!
three4three
1st February 2010, 22:16
Classic! :) Full Q&A here:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81192
VXR
1st February 2010, 20:18
Ferrari are worried about fuel consumption apparently. Which is probably why Massa was out there racking up the laps.
Bullfrog
1st February 2010, 20:47
Are Sauber and Toro Rosso worried as well, with the same engine?
HounslowBusGarage
1st February 2010, 20:26
Thank goodness it’s over – the waiting, that is.
Now at least we can see some kind of future, some kind of pattern to the season ahead. But at least we’re out of the “What was your favourite livery?”, “What did you have for lunch?” type of thread, and we’ve got cars moving again. The real season start is still a few weeks away, but we’ve got testing, car launches, more testing, plus intrigue and politics to keep us going in the meantime.
Spring is nearly here.
Salty
1st February 2010, 20:54
Sir – you are a poet. ;)
three4three
1st February 2010, 21:29
I whole-heartedly agree with you, oh what a relief! For the reasons you’ve stated I’m weirdly glad the forum’s been dead the last few days. Tho of course I welcome it’s return now that we have something to talk about. :P
Daniel
1st February 2010, 20:51
It’s fantastic to see Schumacher run 0.4s faster than Rosberg with equal machinery after running almost the same number of laps.
I’ll never forget Hakkinen’s test, three or four years after his retirement, when he was completely off pace…
Well, I know Schumacher was much closer to racing during his “retirement” than Hakkinen was, but anyway it’s an impressive acheivement for the seven-times world champion.
That was the best way to start again for Michael, and all his opponents must be really worried by now…
Maciek
1st February 2010, 21:05
I think “achievement” might be either an overstatement or a hasty analysis or, probably, both.
Daniel
1st February 2010, 21:20
Probably you are right, but, just to speak clearly, I never was a Schumacher fan, or probably only from 1996 to 2000, when everyone expected him to give Ferrari its first title in more than 20 years…
I know it’s only the first test, but I would be worried if I were Rosberg.
I’d like to know when Schumacher made his fastest lap, if it was later or earlier than Rosberg… anyway I was very impressed…
mfDB
1st February 2010, 22:03
It was after Rosberg
jose arellano
1st February 2010, 20:56
so the car that renault revelaed waas the r30 !!
Antony
1st February 2010, 20:56
Ferrari should be disqualified for using lord vaders mask as a diffuser! HAHAHA
http://i48.tinypic.com/2m2w00z.jpg
BBQ2
1st February 2010, 20:59
His opponents are not worried at all! As Peter Sauber refused to accept MSC is a WDC material.
Pat
1st February 2010, 21:23
Has anybody seen any rear end shots anywhere of any of the cars’ diffusers ?
Maciek
2nd February 2010, 7:52
look earlier in this thread
Inocencio
1st February 2010, 21:32
Hi guys. 2 things: Thanks Keith for doing all this, I find this site by far the best I�ve seen about f1. The other thing: there is another site with live timing: http://www.thef1.com I�ve been following that today, it�s in spanish though. They also have live timings on http://www.lasextadeportes.com/formula1/inicio, which is web from the TV channel that broadcasts F1 in Spain. Greetings all
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 21:38
Thanks Inocencio I’ll make sure those links are included tomorrow.
Pat
1st February 2010, 21:55
Here’s teh Ferrari’s rear end
http://www.itv-f1.com/photo.aspx?IM_ID=56427&PG_ID=22
Pat
1st February 2010, 21:56
Suabers: http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/56427_2.jpg
Pat
1st February 2010, 21:58
Saubers :
http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/56426_2.jpg
Pat
1st February 2010, 21:58
Renaults :
http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/56425_2.jpg
Inocencio
1st February 2010, 22:03
Hi again guys, someone asked for the diffusers, here is an interesting link:
http://www.thef1.com/galerias/miscelanea/difusores-2010/
three4three
1st February 2010, 22:31
Excellent link, thanks!
three4three
1st February 2010, 22:12
Classic! :) The full Q&A here:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81192
three4three
1st February 2010, 22:15
dunno why this ended up here, was meant to be @Salty on page 5…
J.A. Summers
1st February 2010, 22:40
What is that hideous monstrosity that only Ferrari seem to have mounted on the T-cam?
K
1st February 2010, 22:43
I was wondering that, maybe some already said in the comments but I can’t be bothered to read them all, I bet it’s a sensor of some kind.
K
1st February 2010, 22:52
Someone.
Actually thinking about it I’m sure I’ve that kind of thing before. Maybe last season.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 22:47
It’s a pitot tube used for measuring airspeed and other forces. It’s not a fixed part of the car design. McLaren were using one too.
K
1st February 2010, 22:54
Thoughts so.
K
1st February 2010, 22:57
Man Keith the blog seems like it’s been going crazy today, both in the high volume of posts and also within the comments themselves. So much speculation, prejudgements, transference(!)… It’s great to see the sport still evokes such excitement and enthusiasm, I hope the season gives as much to the fans as they put into it and I hope the FIA and teams don’t take us for granted like they often seems to. Here’s to a great season whoever wins!
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 23:09
Wow, 500-odd posts.
Anyway, I’m disappointed by the Renault’s lack of pace. However, Robert Kubica is apparently very happy with the car, and he does have a reputation for being difficult to please (or for being a bit of a whiner, depending on who you talk to). If he’s that happy with a car and setting lap times two and a half seconds off the pace, my bet is that Renault have been taking a completely different tack to their program than everyone else. The top teams like to see how fast they can go compared to one another (and then sandbag a little to try and draw the other guy out), but I’m pretty sure Renault have been testing the car under full fuel conditions at the very least. I’ve heard they’ve aso been testing the car under brakes, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Kubica were braking a little harder and for a little longer than he usually would.
It’ll be interesting to see how Petrov does on Wednesday. The Circuit Ricardo Tormo was the place where he took his first win in GP2, so he knows the circuit pretty well. It’s a good chance to impress.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 23:35
Part of Renault’s problem is that neither of their 2010 drivers have been in the R29, making comparisons between the two tricky.
Petrov is the first of many rookies and I think the best way he can impress is not so much by going quickly but staying out of the gravel traps and giving the team good, detailed feedback.
Prisoner Monkeys
2nd February 2010, 0:29
I wasn’t thinking that Petrov could simply go out and set blinding lap times, moreso that he could impress by being on form from the outset. He wouldn’t need to learn the circuit because he already knows it, so he can get acquiatined with the car faster and start getting useful data sooner. It may be more of a problem for the two tests in Jerez since he hasn’t raced there before, but by the time Catalunya – another circuit he knows – comes around, he should be familiar with the car and confident enough that he can show his true form.
Adam Dennehey
1st February 2010, 23:13
Know someone said something about the thing on Massa’s car thats sticking out, looks like a small camera to me, but i could be wrong. Anyone know what it is?
Myles Woerner
1st February 2010, 23:26
It’s a device used to transmit telemetry to the garage
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 23:27
It’s a data-logger.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
2nd February 2010, 0:36
And on we go to day two: 2010 F1 testing: February 2nd
Jay Menon
2nd February 2010, 0:47
Robert Kubica better get accustomed to the rear end of the time sheets at this rate. Then again, he should already know this..since he’s driving last season’s car with an “updated” nose cone..hahaha.
What can we say about Schumi? Third fastest, faster than his team mate. This is just a test, but I think its a sign of things to come.
I wonder if Mika Hakinnen can be coaxed into a F1 come back after all this.
Prisoner Monkeys
2nd February 2010, 1:26
Renault are known to have spent their first day testing fuel efficiency, especially with a heavier car. Last year the fuel tank was 60kg, so if someone was running 30kg and setting competitive lap times while you were running full fuel, it wasn’t so bad. But this year, the fuel tanks are holding 150kg, so if someone is setting fast lap times with 30kg in the tank and you’re fully-fuelled, you can expect to be four seconds a lap off the pace.
I also suspect that Renault are deliberately mixing and matching R30 parts with an R29 chassis. If they ran a full R30, they’d be testing the data as a whole. But since they already know how the R29 behaves, if they stick R30 parts like front wing, rear wing and diffuser on it, they can get individual data for them. It only gives them half the picture – they still need to run a full R30 – but it means they’ll have more data to develop future upgrades. Not because the the R30 is a bad car, but because all of the teams will upgrade their cars at some point or another. Renault are just trying to get ahead of the curve; they were surprised that the numbers they got from wind tunnel tests of the R30 were as good as they were, and Bob Bell reckons that what they set out to achieve in two years could actually be done in one if they play their hand the right way. Gathering early data in individual pieces is no doubt a part of that strategy.
Maciek
2nd February 2010, 7:55
The optimist in me wants really, really hard to believe that that’s what’s happening…
wasiF1
2nd February 2010, 2:13
What a wonderful day,I hope this excitement continues today.
jose arellano
2nd February 2010, 4:46
just saw a video on youtube,, the sauber is visible faster in that corner