Close, it’s a clueless person telling them what they should or shouldn’t do. Everyone looks like a RedBull this year because the Red Bull aero has a much larger area for development than Brawn last year (according to Brundle, Windsor, Allen).
why r u getting sentimental.
If Brawn could beat Red bull without their kind of nose, they could have beaten them this year too. And moreover the car is a absolute disaster.
And did u suggest Merc to go for Red Bull type nose. Its a blog and everyone has a right to write what he thinks.
I’m not sure you understand the meaning of sentimental, Gill.
“If Brawn could beat Red bull without their kind of nose, they could have beaten them this year too”
Well, they were only beating them clearly before RedBull adapted the double diffuser – and you sure do have the right to say what you think, but then everyone has the right to point out comments that miss the mark, too.
Well in 2008 Red Bull introduced the shark fin (I think it was them), and many other teams copied it including Ferrari. They were beating Red Bull that year, so why did they need to put it on the car? Because it would make it just a little bit faster.
Teams copy each other, even the teams that aren’t doing as well as them. It has been like that for decades.
Knew it- they’ve got a low nose and the full RB5 kink. Everyone else so far has a high nose, and no (or very subtle) nose ridges. Since Brawn had the best DD last year, they should know what works.
It’s a Red Bull nose, but it still has the Brawn ‘stoop’ that the BGP001 had, rather than the high and pointy nose the other teams seem to have gone for this year.
Another scoop that you can only see at f1fanatic. Not at jamesallen page. Sorry mate.
Follow the f1 tests at valencia, jerez and barcelona live. Only in spanish though. http://www.motor21.com/
Heard they just rolled it out and in. They don’t make a song and dance about things do they :P
The livery kind of looks like an odd dusty version of the Sauber C29 from yesterday which a splash of turquoise.
:S
True but even that wasn’t much of a song and dance. I was hoping they would have a massive announcement proclaiming ‘we are here’ bringing Schumi out and play dramatic music :P not just roll in, roll out. Everyone does say F1 is a circus these days… :P
First reaction: someone should tell Mercedes that their nose is broken. The downward-pointing nose just doesn’t look right. And that front wing looks bloody heavy … couldn’t they make a less-chunky verion?
I didn’t say it looked bad, just that it didn’t look right. It’s that high angle that makes things look hinky. It’s not s bad from the ground level. However, the front wing looks very heavy and would be more-suited to a combine harvester.
I think the shape of the nose section makes it look like the wing is weighing it down a lot, especially when we’re used to seeing straight noses like the Sauber.
My initial impression is that I like it. I tend to prefer lower noses anyway, although I am undecided about the Red Bull style horns, at least it hasn�t got a shark fin engine cover which is a good thing in my book.
When the livery was launched I didn�t notice the yellow and black wing mirrors, for me they don�t fit in with the rest of the livery, apart from that I think I will have to wait to see how the livery looks on the track to make a final judgement.
I quite like it. Mercedes haven’t followed the shark fin trend, which is a big plus in my book. They may be an effective solution, but they look ridiculous. And I actually quite like the livery, don’t think it’s as bad as everyone is making out.
Anyone noticed the manly turquoise gloves the mechanic at the car’s right rear is wearing? Classy!
Not a bad looking car but I don’t like the nose, looks bent. And their livery isn’t very exciting either. I look forward to some high res shots to better analyse.
it’s interesting to see that the “mini black aero-foil-liked wing” on the W01 is at a higher place at the nose of the car, unlike design of McLaren and Ferrari that the ‘mini-wing’ is just right above the front wing
Mad top air intake. Triangular, larger than what we’ve seen before, and two side slit intakes. And yet they don’t seem to have shrunk the sidepod intakes as small as the McLarens…..
I think the W01 really demonstrates what I like about the launch season: all the cars look different in profile. I was initially afraid that developers would simply copy what other cars – primarily the Red Bull RB5 – had done and we’d start 2010 with thirteen cars that all looked the same.
But that hasn’t been the case. All of the designs so far have been pretty unique. The Mercedes might have the Red Bull V-nose design, but it’s also got the innovative, organic-looking airbox and the sharp fin out the back. The McLaren is pretty radical-looking, while the Sauber has the high nose and a wing that is connected further back than anyone else.
Pretty much every car is unique, with more to tell them apart than just the livery. And that’s the way it should be.
Actually, the Renault has been spotted today with a few new attachments, noably the front and rear wings, and new rearview mirrors. They seemed to focus on the sidepods when developing the R29; my suspicion is that they’re happy with them and used the last few races to try a few design ideas out.
All they need to do is lose the bumblebee livery on the rear wing and get some sponsors in there. Because like Ferrari with the Mlboro barcode, they do look a little like a GP2 team …
Ok Bernie. And there isn’t a chassis that looks like the red bull so far. The only one is obviously toro rosso which may have tipped us off for red bulls 2010 design, since they are associated. What is with everyone and red bull? We can’t even debut a chassis without people referring to the red bull design of 2009 it’s ridiculous.
Anyone know what the little side intakes are for just in front of the Mercedes emblem on the side of the engine cover? Would they be for the oil radiator if it’s been moved back towards the gearbox? Or would it be feasible these could run down to the diffuser?
Sat track side at Valencia. The Merc looks average compared to the mclaren. Interesting to see the shark fin connected to the rear spoiler has been adopted by a few.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but a little objectivity is nice sometimes, too. Brawn/Mercedes already had a winning car last year, so they didn’t need to revolutionize, just evolve. McLaren had no choice but to start clean – though I will agree that their design is the most “muscular” so far.
These early laps don’t count for much. They’re still five seconds off the pace of the lap record, and then there’s sandbagging to take into consideration. I don’t think we’ll have a really serious idea of who is where until at elast the first test at Jerez – and even then, that won’t be factoring in the teams that are only just beginning.
Mclarens definitly gone with more agressive aero and reduced sidepod intakes compared to Merc. It’ll be interesting to see how the McLaren handles the heat in Bahrain , Melbourne and KL.
Hey is it just me or is every one is bashing the teams for the red bull nose arch? No one said any thing when other teams copied the DD or the fatter nose or the front wing of the BGP 001 last year? But a raised nose with a kink and people are saying every one has a red bull?
i suppose its because the kink on the red bulls nose was the first time anything like that had been done. it is their distinct trademark and its uniqueness seperates from all past ideas.
I don’t know why everyone is surprised about every team copying the red bull nose arch. I remember last year reading about the fact that it kept airflow over the top and bottom of the nose separate and it was probably going to be almost standard on the cars from now on.
Surely the higher noses will help channel more air under the car to the diffuser which is where most of the grip comes from.
Also, mercedes have much bigger air intakes than the mclaren to provide cooling to the same engine; the intake above the cockpit in particular looks like a bold statement that that engine needs all the air it can get. I know merc engines are normally the most reliable, but with the new regulations, heavier and larger cars, have mercedes kept something from mclaren?
So far the 2010 Mercedes Benz and Ferrari have been the best looking cars so far for me. I like the fact that Renault have returned to the same colours they had years ago, it really catches your attention and is a complete about turn on their old livery. I am disappointed by Williams and Sauber. The 2009 Williams was one of my favourites to look at last year, and the Sauber has just become even uglier than it was before.
I expect Red Bull, with Adrian Newey’s skills, will probably produce the best looking car. But, as we know, looks don’t win championships do they!
I’m just curious what it was that was needing to be completed from the time they launched last years car several days ago to now, that we are finally able to see the new car. Strangely I like the look of the re-painted last years car although this is not bad. I know its got nothing to do with looks though so I wonder what sort of ingenuiety Ross has incorporated into this years car…
the merc looks clunky especially the engine cover but sure its still quick.
also, cant the shark fin engine covers be banned on safety grounds or something? they are just so hideous!
id be interested to hear on here how much the looks of a car matter to people? personally i hate it that the cars have got so ugly in the last year or so
I agree, BAN SHARK FINS! I also hate the ‘red bull nose’ treatment yuk! Perhaps a regulation change to make the flat bottom extend to the nose would help?
** LIGHTBLUB MOMENT, the two air intakes at the side of the engine cover… could the be fed into fans which in turn via the “holes” in the underside of the car that made the bgp001 car’s diffuser so good, feed turbocharged air directly into the difuser creating mass downforce for little or drag. A massive advantage especially in slow speed corners for example at Monaco???? I know it’s a big IF and maybe but if anyone would think of it it would be mr design rule bender himself?
** LIGHTBLUB MOMENT, the two air intakes at the side of the engine cover… could the be fed into fans which in turn via the “holes” in the underside of the car that made the bgp001 car’s diffuser so good, feed turbocharged air directly into the difuser creating mass downforce for little drag. A massive advantage especially in slow speed corners for example at Monaco???? I know it’s a big IF and maybe but if anyone would think of it it would be mr design rule bender himself?
Okay, do you even know how a turbocharger works? Simply putting air into an engine does not make it turbocharged. A turbocharger cools and then forces air into an engine by pressurising it. This is done by way of a turbine, which is driven by the exhaust gases. Carving two holes into an engine cowling isn’t going to do anything to “turbo charge” an engine. It isn’t going to do anything except allow air into the engine bay to cool it.
And what’s this about feeding turbocharged air into a diffuser? That doesn’t happen. The air is collected in a turbne and pressurised, then forced into the engine with the fuel and ignited. It then escapes via the exhaust, unpressurised. Putting pressurised air into a diffuser isn’t going to do anything to improve a car’s pace – if anything, it’s just going to create a weird wake.
Even if Ross Brawn found some way to get a turbocharger into the car, it would be found out and banned for sure. The teams have to submit their design specifications to the FIA for homologation in order to be able to compete.
I was not talking about turbocharging the air into the engine!! Read again…. I ment to increase the airflow to the difuser by forcefeeding it through the holes in the bottom of the car, suggestion prior to ridiculing stop a actually read their comments!! and for your information yes I do know how a turbocharger works and I also know they are banned!!
Also 1 thing to mention a desktop fan turbocharges air to cool you, so a fan that increases airflow would turbocharge the air, NOT into the engine (although I wish they would fetch them back). It is unlikely that may suggestion where to be true but not unfeasable.
??? Forcing air through the difuser will generate downforce without any extra drag! I’m 99% sure it’s not there for that, but can’t see a reason why it wouldn’t work.
STRFerrari4Ever
1st February 2010, 8:01
Need more pictures to properly analyse this car but looks good so far.
ap
1st February 2010, 14:20
already see illegal exhaust…
K
1st February 2010, 22:40
lol
Gill
1st February 2010, 8:02
Even they have gone for red bull type nose….they need not have
Maciek
1st February 2010, 8:14
Is that your years of experience in F1 aerodynamics design telling you what they should or shouldn’t do?
David
1st February 2010, 8:24
Close, it’s a clueless person telling them what they should or shouldn’t do. Everyone looks like a RedBull this year because the Red Bull aero has a much larger area for development than Brawn last year (according to Brundle, Windsor, Allen).
Gill
1st February 2010, 9:54
why r u getting sentimental.
If Brawn could beat Red bull without their kind of nose, they could have beaten them this year too. And moreover the car is a absolute disaster.
And did u suggest Merc to go for Red Bull type nose. Its a blog and everyone has a right to write what he thinks.
Maciek
1st February 2010, 10:39
I’m not sure you understand the meaning of sentimental, Gill.
“If Brawn could beat Red bull without their kind of nose, they could have beaten them this year too”
Well, they were only beating them clearly before RedBull adapted the double diffuser – and you sure do have the right to say what you think, but then everyone has the right to point out comments that miss the mark, too.
Kav
1st February 2010, 11:21
Well in 2008 Red Bull introduced the shark fin (I think it was them), and many other teams copied it including Ferrari. They were beating Red Bull that year, so why did they need to put it on the car? Because it would make it just a little bit faster.
Teams copy each other, even the teams that aren’t doing as well as them. It has been like that for decades.
F1 forever
1st February 2010, 13:31
The mercedes nose looks nothing like the red bull nose. I don’t know why everyone is mentioning Red bull with every freakin chassis debuted.
Hairs
1st February 2010, 9:25
Knew it- they’ve got a low nose and the full RB5 kink. Everyone else so far has a high nose, and no (or very subtle) nose ridges. Since Brawn had the best DD last year, they should know what works.
My money’s on Mercedes this year.
JHunt123
1st February 2010, 13:45
Maybe the only non Red Bull look alike will be the new Red Bull. This looks like everybody fighting last year’s war or what…
TommyB
1st February 2010, 8:03
Red Bull nose :P
ajokay
1st February 2010, 8:43
It’s a Red Bull nose, but it still has the Brawn ‘stoop’ that the BGP001 had, rather than the high and pointy nose the other teams seem to have gone for this year.
Hallard
2nd February 2010, 16:25
I personally find the droopy adaptation of the Red bull style nose to be quite off-putting.
Lustigson
1st February 2010, 8:04
You’ve got a scoop, there, Keith. Autosport.com, Pitpass et al don’t have it yet. Thumbs up!
jose
1st February 2010, 9:15
Another scoop that you can only see at f1fanatic. Not at jamesallen page. Sorry mate.
Follow the f1 tests at valencia, jerez and barcelona live. Only in spanish though.
http://www.motor21.com/
Vikas
1st February 2010, 8:04
That front wing is awesome… and heh… a mix of brawn low nose and red bull’s v nose…nicee
steph90
1st February 2010, 8:06
Heard they just rolled it out and in. They don’t make a song and dance about things do they :P
The livery kind of looks like an odd dusty version of the Sauber C29 from yesterday which a splash of turquoise.
:S
PJA
1st February 2010, 8:29
Mercedes made the song and dance when they launched the livery last week.
steph90
1st February 2010, 8:41
True but even that wasn’t much of a song and dance. I was hoping they would have a massive announcement proclaiming ‘we are here’ bringing Schumi out and play dramatic music :P not just roll in, roll out. Everyone does say F1 is a circus these days… :P
sato113
1st February 2010, 8:40
probably the biggest song and dance of the year last week!
sauber looks better btw. ;)
ap
2nd February 2010, 0:28
u r kidding..yer?!?!?
Both this and the sudeo bmw is freaking been hit with the ugly stick…
Toro looks very nice as does the Williams…the rest are not even close.
Gill
1st February 2010, 8:07
The car surely doesnt look good.. Its toooo plane jane.
It might be fat but dont stand against F10, MP4-25 and R30
Jamborello
1st February 2010, 10:33
Gill, could you just tell us now who is going to win the championship, and save us all the bother of watching, o wise one…
Prat.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 8:15
Two more pics courtesy of Edd Straw:
http://twitpic.com/10twam
http://twitpic.com/10twgj
David
1st February 2010, 8:27
omg, what a beast, awesome
sato113
1st February 2010, 8:43
woah, look at the wide, double air intake above the cockpit!
ajokay
1st February 2010, 8:47
Nico has changed his helmet to half-match the corperate colours. The blue is now silver (grey)…
ugh.
sumedh
1st February 2010, 9:00
Schumacher looks mighty old with those spectacles!!!
Ned Flanders
1st February 2010, 13:35
Best livery + best car design = best to look at.
Ace
1st February 2010, 8:16
That looks like a pointy wee fin there too…
Bhavesh
1st February 2010, 8:17
Hey Keith,
You are too fast…
Looks like two patterns are emerging from the launches, small shallow nose and longer sidepods for ferrari & Merc
Or sharkfins coupled with wider nose and shorter sidepods Macca, Sauber, Renault
It must be to do with the way people have interpreted the DD rules this year. Very clear patterns
Williams seem somewhere in between which doesn’t really bode well.
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 8:24
First reaction: someone should tell Mercedes that their nose is broken. The downward-pointing nose just doesn’t look right. And that front wing looks bloody heavy … couldn’t they make a less-chunky verion?
David
1st February 2010, 8:28
I disagree entirely. I’d say its at least the 2nd best looking car.
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 8:37
I didn’t say it looked bad, just that it didn’t look right. It’s that high angle that makes things look hinky. It’s not s bad from the ground level. However, the front wing looks very heavy and would be more-suited to a combine harvester.
epi
1st February 2010, 9:45
I think the shape of the nose section makes it look like the wing is weighing it down a lot, especially when we’re used to seeing straight noses like the Sauber.
Jamborello
1st February 2010, 10:41
When you consider that the noses on F1 cars are usually loaded with ballast, it doesn’t really matter if it ‘looks’ heavy as long as it works.
F1 forever
1st February 2010, 13:36
It looks fine.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 10:59
I agree PM. Looks like its had a failed erection or something.
Kevin
1st February 2010, 13:26
ROFL
PJA
1st February 2010, 8:35
My initial impression is that I like it. I tend to prefer lower noses anyway, although I am undecided about the Red Bull style horns, at least it hasn�t got a shark fin engine cover which is a good thing in my book.
When the livery was launched I didn�t notice the yellow and black wing mirrors, for me they don�t fit in with the rest of the livery, apart from that I think I will have to wait to see how the livery looks on the track to make a final judgement.
Mike
1st February 2010, 13:49
Yea I couldn’t tell if this was a red bull chassis because they look so similar
HounslowBusGarage
1st February 2010, 8:46
The bodywork looks very undercut below the air intake. I haven’t noticed that effect on any other cars – is that right?
-A-
1st February 2010, 8:48
Some silver instead of blue on Nico Rosberg’s helmet, apparently. Interesting.
ivz
1st February 2010, 8:54
I also like lower noses. It seems like Brawn is the only one who designs them like that these days?
Katy
1st February 2010, 8:54
I still really don’t like the livery. Hope it looks better on telly.
sumedh
1st February 2010, 8:58
I think the nose is slightly higher than that of the BGP01’s. Not as high as Ferrari’s, but pretty high.
The front wing endplate looks extremely simple. And that air-intake above the cockpit is just awesome!!!
Myles Woerner
1st February 2010, 8:59
Now that everyone seems to copying the last year’s Red Bull, I can’t wait to see what Newey has come up with.
Mike
1st February 2010, 13:47
Nobody is copying anything from red bull.
GeeMac
1st February 2010, 9:07
I quite like it. Mercedes haven’t followed the shark fin trend, which is a big plus in my book. They may be an effective solution, but they look ridiculous. And I actually quite like the livery, don’t think it’s as bad as everyone is making out.
Anyone noticed the manly turquoise gloves the mechanic at the car’s right rear is wearing? Classy!
Adrian
1st February 2010, 9:56
Totally agree, I wish they’d banned the stupid shark fins along with the equally hideous wheel covers…
m0tion
1st February 2010, 9:07
there’s alot of air running under that nose and being sucked in
kaushal
1st February 2010, 9:19
Michael Schumacher Retains “Ferrari” helmet at Mercedes.Check out the helmet design:
http://www.f1indiablog.in/2010/02/michael-schumacher-retains-ferrari.html
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
1st February 2010, 9:32
Did that last week: Schumacher sticks with red helmet in 2010
three4three
1st February 2010, 9:25
Not a bad looking car but I don’t like the nose, looks bent. And their livery isn’t very exciting either. I look forward to some high res shots to better analyse.
Salty
1st February 2010, 9:34
Would have thought a Roman nose would be better suited on an Italian car. Seem to have a dorsal rather than full on shark fin. Viva la difference!
choiMatthew
1st February 2010, 9:41
it’s interesting to see that the “mini black aero-foil-liked wing” on the W01 is at a higher place at the nose of the car, unlike design of McLaren and Ferrari that the ‘mini-wing’ is just right above the front wing
Ben
1st February 2010, 9:58
Mad top air intake. Triangular, larger than what we’ve seen before, and two side slit intakes. And yet they don’t seem to have shrunk the sidepod intakes as small as the McLarens…..
ajokay
1st February 2010, 10:04
Looks like a pig’s snout from head-on.
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 10:01
I think the W01 really demonstrates what I like about the launch season: all the cars look different in profile. I was initially afraid that developers would simply copy what other cars – primarily the Red Bull RB5 – had done and we’d start 2010 with thirteen cars that all looked the same.
But that hasn’t been the case. All of the designs so far have been pretty unique. The Mercedes might have the Red Bull V-nose design, but it’s also got the innovative, organic-looking airbox and the sharp fin out the back. The McLaren is pretty radical-looking, while the Sauber has the high nose and a wing that is connected further back than anyone else.
Pretty much every car is unique, with more to tell them apart than just the livery. And that’s the way it should be.
ajokay
1st February 2010, 10:09
And the Renault still looks like it ate all the pies.
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 10:19
Actually, the Renault has been spotted today with a few new attachments, noably the front and rear wings, and new rearview mirrors. They seemed to focus on the sidepods when developing the R29; my suspicion is that they’re happy with them and used the last few races to try a few design ideas out.
All they need to do is lose the bumblebee livery on the rear wing and get some sponsors in there. Because like Ferrari with the Mlboro barcode, they do look a little like a GP2 team …
Bullfrog
1st February 2010, 10:55
So does Ross Brawn! Is he on the Norbert Haug diet?
Formula 1
1st February 2010, 13:43
Ok Bernie. And there isn’t a chassis that looks like the red bull so far. The only one is obviously toro rosso which may have tipped us off for red bulls 2010 design, since they are associated. What is with everyone and red bull? We can’t even debut a chassis without people referring to the red bull design of 2009 it’s ridiculous.
MuzzleFlash
1st February 2010, 10:01
Anyone know what the little side intakes are for just in front of the Mercedes emblem on the side of the engine cover? Would they be for the oil radiator if it’s been moved back towards the gearbox? Or would it be feasible these could run down to the diffuser?
Hairs
1st February 2010, 10:15
Possible it’s for cooling the fuel, depending on where they’ve put the tanks.
Spencer
1st February 2010, 10:15
Sat track side at Valencia. The Merc looks average compared to the mclaren. Interesting to see the shark fin connected to the rear spoiler has been adopted by a few.
F1 forever
1st February 2010, 13:38
Who else has the engine cover extended to the rear wing otehr than mclaren?
Maciek
1st February 2010, 10:42
Any pictures of today’s version of the Renault?
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 10:57
Front wing:
http://confidential-renault.fr/Des-modifications-pour-la-Renault-F1-R30-i455
Rear wing and diffuser:
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1324378
Body:
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1324378
Very odd that they added half a dozen extra parts overnight. Still, I like it.
Maciek
1st February 2010, 11:36
Better, anyways.
J.A. Summers
1st February 2010, 22:19
The rear wing is the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen in years… I didn’t even know it was legal to triple mount it.
CounterStrike
1st February 2010, 10:47
Man, it looks pretty uninspiring. McLaren seems the only team to have come up with something truly extraordinary.
May the sweet lord be with Nico.
Maciek
1st February 2010, 10:53
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but a little objectivity is nice sometimes, too. Brawn/Mercedes already had a winning car last year, so they didn’t need to revolutionize, just evolve. McLaren had no choice but to start clean – though I will agree that their design is the most “muscular” so far.
Jonathan
1st February 2010, 10:56
Other than the nose cone, the rest of the car looks pretty much the same as BGP-001.
jose
1st February 2010, 11:42
Felipe Massa (Ferrari) 1:13.552 (20 vueltas)
Gary Paffett (McLaren) 1:14.018 (21 vueltas)
Pedro Mart�nez de la Rosa (BMW Sauber) 1:14.898 (9 vueltas)
Robert Kubica (Renault) 1:15.298 (20 vueltas)
Rubens Barrichello (Williams) 1:15.660 (26 vueltas)
Nico Rosberg (Mercedes GP) 1:18.228 (15 vueltas)
Sebastien Buemi (Toro Rosso) 1:26.395 (5 vueltas
This were the times at valencia at 12:30 local time.
The ferrari of massa going even faster with a 1:13:599, the ferrari seems good out of the box.
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 11:48
These early laps don’t count for much. They’re still five seconds off the pace of the lap record, and then there’s sandbagging to take into consideration. I don’t think we’ll have a really serious idea of who is where until at elast the first test at Jerez – and even then, that won’t be factoring in the teams that are only just beginning.
jose
1st February 2010, 11:44
sorry for the mistake. His best time so far 1:13:552
Zeke
1st February 2010, 11:45
Mclarens definitly gone with more agressive aero and reduced sidepod intakes compared to Merc. It’ll be interesting to see how the McLaren handles the heat in Bahrain , Melbourne and KL.
rob ijbema
1st February 2010, 11:52
the livery looks like a dull dirty mclaren
Prisoner Monkeys
1st February 2010, 12:00
McLaren have apparently taken out a super-injunction against the photographers to prevent any photos of their diffuser being published.
F1 forever
1st February 2010, 13:36
No thats all teams.
Ned Flanders
1st February 2010, 13:39
Court injunctions don’t work. Just ask John Terry!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/feb/01/john-terry-superinjunction-courts
(John Terry is an English footballer who had an affair and tried (and failed) to cover it up in the courts…)
Hairs
1st February 2010, 23:51
*allegedly* had an affair, you don’t want to get Keith in trouble.
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 13:24
Mercedes like Ferrari have no shark fin
wasiF1
1st February 2010, 14:03
There nose is lower but it looks like 2009 Red Bull,wondering what will Red Bull look like?
Platine
1st February 2010, 14:52
The 2010 Constructors champions
Worrying for McLaren that their nose is so flat and lacking gradient, if RB has a different design id worry.
Schumis helmet is cool
Roger449
1st February 2010, 16:03
Hey is it just me or is every one is bashing the teams for the red bull nose arch? No one said any thing when other teams copied the DD or the fatter nose or the front wing of the BGP 001 last year? But a raised nose with a kink and people are saying every one has a red bull?
ad
1st February 2010, 16:11
i suppose its because the kink on the red bulls nose was the first time anything like that had been done. it is their distinct trademark and its uniqueness seperates from all past ideas.
SloMo
1st February 2010, 18:54
I don’t know why everyone is surprised about every team copying the red bull nose arch. I remember last year reading about the fact that it kept airflow over the top and bottom of the nose separate and it was probably going to be almost standard on the cars from now on.
ad
1st February 2010, 16:08
Surely the higher noses will help channel more air under the car to the diffuser which is where most of the grip comes from.
Also, mercedes have much bigger air intakes than the mclaren to provide cooling to the same engine; the intake above the cockpit in particular looks like a bold statement that that engine needs all the air it can get. I know merc engines are normally the most reliable, but with the new regulations, heavier and larger cars, have mercedes kept something from mclaren?
John H
1st February 2010, 16:48
Liking the knife edged engine cover/fin.
The Limit
1st February 2010, 16:58
So far the 2010 Mercedes Benz and Ferrari have been the best looking cars so far for me. I like the fact that Renault have returned to the same colours they had years ago, it really catches your attention and is a complete about turn on their old livery. I am disappointed by Williams and Sauber. The 2009 Williams was one of my favourites to look at last year, and the Sauber has just become even uglier than it was before.
I expect Red Bull, with Adrian Newey’s skills, will probably produce the best looking car. But, as we know, looks don’t win championships do they!
Chaz
1st February 2010, 17:37
I’m just curious what it was that was needing to be completed from the time they launched last years car several days ago to now, that we are finally able to see the new car. Strangely I like the look of the re-painted last years car although this is not bad. I know its got nothing to do with looks though so I wonder what sort of ingenuiety Ross has incorporated into this years car…
mild7nick
1st February 2010, 20:43
the merc looks clunky especially the engine cover but sure its still quick.
also, cant the shark fin engine covers be banned on safety grounds or something? they are just so hideous!
id be interested to hear on here how much the looks of a car matter to people? personally i hate it that the cars have got so ugly in the last year or so
DirkWar
1st February 2010, 20:59
I agree, BAN SHARK FINS! I also hate the ‘red bull nose’ treatment yuk! Perhaps a regulation change to make the flat bottom extend to the nose would help?
Oliver
1st February 2010, 23:03
This is like the 95/96 with all over again, with virtually all the cars having a high nose.
Icthyes
2nd February 2010, 1:12
Looks alright, nothing special in my view, but just to see that red helmet peering out of that silver…MSC’s return hasn’t even really sunk in yet.
We want turbos
2nd February 2010, 6:59
** LIGHTBLUB MOMENT, the two air intakes at the side of the engine cover… could the be fed into fans which in turn via the “holes” in the underside of the car that made the bgp001 car’s diffuser so good, feed turbocharged air directly into the difuser creating mass downforce for little or drag. A massive advantage especially in slow speed corners for example at Monaco???? I know it’s a big IF and maybe but if anyone would think of it it would be mr design rule bender himself?
We want turbos
2nd February 2010, 6:59
** LIGHTBLUB MOMENT, the two air intakes at the side of the engine cover… could the be fed into fans which in turn via the “holes” in the underside of the car that made the bgp001 car’s diffuser so good, feed turbocharged air directly into the difuser creating mass downforce for little drag. A massive advantage especially in slow speed corners for example at Monaco???? I know it’s a big IF and maybe but if anyone would think of it it would be mr design rule bender himself?
Prisoner Monkeys
2nd February 2010, 7:51
Okay, do you even know how a turbocharger works? Simply putting air into an engine does not make it turbocharged. A turbocharger cools and then forces air into an engine by pressurising it. This is done by way of a turbine, which is driven by the exhaust gases. Carving two holes into an engine cowling isn’t going to do anything to “turbo charge” an engine. It isn’t going to do anything except allow air into the engine bay to cool it.
And what’s this about feeding turbocharged air into a diffuser? That doesn’t happen. The air is collected in a turbne and pressurised, then forced into the engine with the fuel and ignited. It then escapes via the exhaust, unpressurised. Putting pressurised air into a diffuser isn’t going to do anything to improve a car’s pace – if anything, it’s just going to create a weird wake.
Even if Ross Brawn found some way to get a turbocharger into the car, it would be found out and banned for sure. The teams have to submit their design specifications to the FIA for homologation in order to be able to compete.
We want turbos
2nd February 2010, 15:05
I was not talking about turbocharging the air into the engine!! Read again…. I ment to increase the airflow to the difuser by forcefeeding it through the holes in the bottom of the car, suggestion prior to ridiculing stop a actually read their comments!! and for your information yes I do know how a turbocharger works and I also know they are banned!!
We want turbos
2nd February 2010, 15:12
Also 1 thing to mention a desktop fan turbocharges air to cool you, so a fan that increases airflow would turbocharge the air, NOT into the engine (although I wish they would fetch them back). It is unlikely that may suggestion where to be true but not unfeasable.
Prisoner Monkeys
2nd February 2010, 20:58
Well, forcing air into the diffuser isn’t going to do anything.
We want turbos
3rd February 2010, 0:18
??? Forcing air through the difuser will generate downforce without any extra drag! I’m 99% sure it’s not there for that, but can’t see a reason why it wouldn’t work.
F1 commentor
4th February 2010, 8:29
the car loooook very fantastic green & silver colour make it beautifullllll
yash
22nd February 2010, 12:00
welcome back schumacher you will win this season and car looking very nice having red bull type nose