I had a great time at Oulton Park yesterday watching the British Touring Car Championship and support races. I also got to say hello to Luke from Motorsport in Print, who supplies some of the prizes for the F1 Fanatic Predictions Championship. He was at the track doing paintings of Matt Hamilton’s Honda Civic.
Back to the normal routine today with the build-up to the Canadian Grand Prix starting soon on F1 Fanatic.
Surprisingly BBC Sport failed to win the BAFTA they were nominated for for their coverage of the 2009 Brazilian Grand Prix. They may well have lost to some worthy winners but when past F1 broadcasts that were vastly inferior scooped the same prize no-one would blame the BBC team for feeling hard done by.
Here’s today’s round-up:
Links
Come back soon Vale! (Ferrari)
One of the side-effects of Valentino Rossi’s nasty leg-breaking crash in Mugello is Ferrari’s case for wanting to run a third car in F1 has been well and truly harpooned.
Luca di Montezemolo had this to say: “We are sure that you will be back on track soon, even stronger than before. If during your convalescence you feel you would like to do some training on four wheels, then remember that the door to Maranello is always open to you.”
Comment of the day
Bill wonders why World Cup-hosting nation South Africa hasn’t had a Grand Prix since 1993. Do any readers in South Africa have any thoughts on this?
One thing I simply cannot understand, the FIA has sanctioned other races like GT, A1 etc… to Kyalami in South Africa. Yet for some reason Formula 1 has not visited South Africa for so many years. F1 teams used to even test here but now they don’t.
It’s about time Africa held a Formula 1 race again, otherwise its not a world championship as the world is not fully represented track-wise.
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday to Owen!
On this day in F1
The last race at the original version of the Spa-Francorchamps circuit in Belgium was held on this day 40 years ago.
Today the track is the longest and one of the fastest on the calendar. But in 1970 it was twice as long – 14km, and featured several fast and frightening turns missing from the modern track, such as the notorious Masta kink.
Pedro Rodriguez mastered the track to win in 1970. The Mexican driver had little interest in the appeals for safer tracks which halted F1 racing on the original circuit after this race.
Happily, F1 returned to Spa in 1983 and although the circuit is shorter and safer now it remains one of the best – probably the very best – tracks in use today.
Here’s some footage from the last F1 race on the old circuit. Note the spectators standing in the firing line at the exit of Eau Rouge!
Dan N
7th June 2010, 0:27
Couldn’t agree more, think Spa’s a fantastic track. Slightly worried about these old tracks making way for less exciting new ones.
I hope that Ferrari don’t manage to run three cars. It would be at all fair on the smaller teams who struggle to grab even a single point as things stand at the moment. And wouldn’t they have an unfair advantage in the constructors championship?
Finally, thanks to Keith for fantastic blogs (which I can now check whenever I like having finally progressed from dial-up….) Keep up the good work.
Mike
7th June 2010, 4:25
Three cars has to be a no go in every way,
Small teams barely manage to run two,
it would increase the performance gap between the big and small teams,
There is no room on the circuits, as they were designed for more or less 26-32 cars,
and the only way to make it viable is to get rid of the small teams, which would be a disaster,
Who keeps threatening to leave F1 when they don’t get what they want? …
Can someone explain how running three cars would work exactly?
Do they want to kick some teams out?
Do they expect only their chosen elite to run three cars?
Do they have a magical garage creating device?
I don’t understand the logic to how it is possible!
Vincent1972
7th June 2010, 0:28
Happy Birthday Owen.
I hope South Africa to be in F1 calendar again in the near future.
Ned Flanders
7th June 2010, 0:41
I watched the BBC interview with Stirling Moss tonight, as I’m sure a lot of other British F1F’s did. It got me thinking- Stirling Moss is considered the greatest driver never to win a World Championship… well who are the best ‘close but no cigar’ drivers at different levels? As in:
Best driver never to win a race
Best driver to manage a podium
Best driver never to score points (in top 6)
I’d say:
Race= Nick Heidfeld
Podium= Adrian Sutil
Points= Justin Wilson
Of course, these are all relatively recent drivers, if I was older I’d probably choose different drivers. What do you think?
TommyB
7th June 2010, 0:56
Race = Jos Verstappen/Nick Heidfeld
Podium = Adrian Sutil
Points = ?
verstappen
7th June 2010, 10:21
hear hear
(but I am a little biased on this one)
David A
7th June 2010, 1:02
Race= Heidfeld/Amon
Podium= Sutil
Points= Wilson
epi
7th June 2010, 1:55
Ouch, quick wiki check reveals Heidfeld got 8 2nds and 4 3rds. Weally nice dwiver, hopefully he’ll get to wace again.
Icthyes
7th June 2010, 3:04
If he comes back and wins, he’ll surely advance up the…pecking order ;-)
sato113
7th June 2010, 2:19
surely Tommy Byrne is the greatest ‘almost man’? some said he was better than Senna.
http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=Mark_Hughes&id=44868
MouseNightshirt
7th June 2010, 3:36
A mate gave me his biography for my birthday. Absolutely fantastic read, seems the poor guy really missed the boat. The test with McLaren where they rigged his car and he *still* went faster than anyone had been in it was just wow on another level…
Icthyes
7th June 2010, 2:55
Race: Martin Brundle
Fer no.65
7th June 2010, 2:56
Sutil? :S
pff, i cant really see why people rate him so high. He hasn’t done anything particuarly special. Except maybe crashing with Kimi very often. Or crashing alone.
Hamish
7th June 2010, 8:06
Race – Amon
Podium – Bellof
Points – good question. Hard to judge given the relatively little camera time they would have got.
Jean Doublet
7th June 2010, 11:14
I was going to say Bellof as well but he had a podium with Tyrrell in Monaco in 1984 before Tyrrell got stripped of its points for that year. And as “for the best driver never to win a race” Stefan Johansson would be pretty high up in the charts as well.
Jean Doublet
7th June 2010, 10:14
1. Chris Amon
2. Manfred Winkelhock
3. Romain Grosjean
Red Andy
7th June 2010, 11:06
Just to point out, Wilson did score a point for Jaguar…
Ned Flanders
7th June 2010, 11:54
I know, but with all the points systems changing over the years I’m only classing 6th or above as points, kind of like F1 Rejects do it
ciaran
7th June 2010, 11:44
Race:Chris Amon
Podium:Ricardo Rodriguez
Points:Difficult to decide so I picked 2 for this:Jans Lammers and Bernd Schedier
The Genuine Jim
7th June 2010, 12:55
Race: Martin Brundle… for sure :)
Courtney Ives
7th June 2010, 15:33
Race= Martin Brundle
Podium = Adrian Sutil
Points = Anthony davidson
Ned Flanders
7th June 2010, 0:49
“past F1 broadcasts were vastly inferior”
I disagree. The BBC are doing an excellent job, but on many levels ITV were better. It’s not just an issue with the ccommentary (though that doesn’t help); I find their production style a bit corny, with loads of emotional piano music, fancy graphics and unusual camera angles. They treat it like a drama, not a sport.
I wonder if perhaps they’ve been given a huge budget to cover F1 and they’re just over indulging themselves with it a bit. I’d kind of prefer it if they went back to basics a bit in their production (although be careful what you wish for and all that…)
TommyB
7th June 2010, 0:59
I think it’s more the fact ITV won a BAFTA literally because Lewis won the race. The coverage was cut away to watch Coronation Street and they didn’t even show the press conference.
David A
7th June 2010, 2:02
ITV also failed to show every race and session live online for free. Couple this with ITVs failure to show some qualifying sessions live on ITV1, and some (the Asian ones IIRC) not shown live on any of their four channels at all, and with what you just said, and the end result is:
BBC’s coverage>>>>>>>>ITV’s coverage
sato113
7th June 2010, 2:21
agreed ned. i really don’t like all the bbc’s emotional ‘live lounge’ music they play to clips of f1. itv was more gritty and inline with motorsport.
Rob R.
7th June 2010, 2:22
No, it’s not just F1 that has an overabundance of silly theatrical music. Every BBC broadcast has that. I read something today that indicated that BBC have had complaints about music drowning out people’s voices in interviews, and apparently they just ignore them.
Seemingly the BBC’s philosophy is “pump music into everything, to placate people with ADD.”
Basically everything BBC does now is like a Muse video.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
7th June 2010, 8:12
I couldn’t disagree more. The infuriating ads, the nauseating partisanship (remember that stunt with Schumacher at Brazil in 2006?), the missed press conferences and the ignored practice session are just a few of the reasons why ITV’s coverage was incomparably worse than the BBC’s.
Ned Flanders
7th June 2010, 11:56
worse- probably
incomparably worse- definitely not!
But I suppose we’ll have to agree to disagree on this…
steph
7th June 2010, 10:24
The BBC have the advantage that they have the right structure and aren’t at the mercy of ads (thank God) which is why they could pretty much do anything and I’d rather stick with them. However, the BBC -perhaps OTT at times- actually seem to give a damn about the sport and have some enthusiasm. Not everything is to my taste such as the music etc but to me, that’s just tinsel. It doesn’t mean anything, what really matters is that they’re explianing the sport well and getting some very good interviews.
The BBC even give us choice at times between their main coverage and 5live. Yes, the BBC should be top quality and it has flaws but at least it is trying to cater to everyone. I think ITV sometimes forgot they had viewers. ITV did get some good stuff and their style was more direct in my opinion but the content delivered was so much poorer. I guess it’s down to the old cliche of style vs substance and I know what I want.
I understand the complaints and they should be said as hopefully the BBC will take notice. The BBC should always be trying to make their coverage better but compared to other countries and past coverage I’m happy.
On the issue of commentary, Legard actually was quite good in Turkey I think. This isn’t aimed at anyone in particular but I’ve seen many comments across the web claiming Allen should return when he was hated before. That just says that it’s acceptable to bring in someone who is possibly a bit less unpopular. Why? He’s proven he’s so much better at blogging than he ever was in the box. He even turned Hamilton fans off and yes I’m a biased Massa fan but 2008 was a nightmare to find out what was going on with Felipe at times when I kept hearing about Hamilton’s amazing prowess. I really rate Lewis but I would like to be able to know what else is going on.
Scribe
7th June 2010, 11:51
Hate to bang on about 5live but my god it’s good.
Personally, I hope the BBC keeps it, they do seem to have tweaked things this year for the better, they seem to be fighting the case for HD. Legard is a annoying but perfectly avoidable, at least he’s not Maurice Hamilton. Never found Allen as bad as was made out, still I don’t think going back to hims a good idea, step in the wrong direction, give the job to Croft, Croft and Brundle. Put Allen back in the 5live box so he can keep doing his blog.
ITV, ITV means ad breaks, don’t care if the build is men in bunny suits on unicycles so longs as coverage of the race is uninterrupted.
slr
7th June 2010, 17:23
BBC F1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ITV F1.
slr
7th June 2010, 17:23
Sorry about the mess Keith, I didn’t know that would happen.
David A
8th June 2010, 1:26
Hmm, I don’t mind, since it is an accurate depiction of how much better the BBC coverage is :P
hartry
7th June 2010, 0:56
OK Rodriguez might have been brave, but those photographers on the KERBING at the exit of Eau Rouge must’ve been totally mental!
wasiF1
7th June 2010, 2:27
What were the photographer thinking?
Maia
7th June 2010, 4:44
Crowds so closed to the track can be seen on WRC. But at least rally fans keep on the apex of the curve. I agree the guys and the beautiful blondie on the exit of eau rouge must be crazy for F1 or just crazy
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
7th June 2010, 8:19
And they don’t even flinch!
Patrickl
7th June 2010, 9:16
Yeah bizarre.
In those days they also had crowds on the finishline when the cars were flagged.
I guess they just didn’t care much about safety. Not sure if they had (m)any casualties among the photraphers though.
wasiF1
7th June 2010, 2:07
Spa is the best track in the world.
It’s true that South Africa should have a Gp as they have hosted both cricket & football world cup which shows that they have the funding to host big event.May be Bernie needs to put something on the menu in 2011-2012.
Ben
7th June 2010, 4:21
Cricket and Football World Cups are very different to hosting an F1 race.
Fact is, SAf doesn’t have an F1 standard circuit. And until they do, or propose to build one, F1 won’t go there. Its not up to Bernie to build the circuits, its up to the locals to get a circuit and then bid to host.
Blame South Africa, don’t blame F1.
wasiF1
7th June 2010, 6:54
@ Ben
Which part of my writing made you think that I am blaming F1?
I am not blaming f1, what I wanted to say said if Bernie wants then he can talk with the local government to build a track there as they have hosted A1 Gp which make sure that they have a interest in F1.
Scribe
7th June 2010, 11:59
@Both of you.
Blame F1 don’t, don’t blame South Africa. F1 is a massivly exploitaition method, perpertrated on developing nations with Soverign Wealth Funds by CVC and Ecclestone. Why would the South African government want a GP when it can get the World Cup? FIFA stil taking them for a ride on that one as well.
Don’t get me wrong I love F1, I just despise Ecclestone and CVC’s way of doing buisness, the millions generated at circuits should be going into making the circuits better, (i.e fixing up the stands in the permanently run down Intergalos and Monza circuits, the fans deserve better) or going into developing young drivers locally.
The Billions available from global coverage should be doing simular, an genrally being pumped straight back into the sport, for the development of talent in deprived countries an areas, an mostly back to the teams to make the whole thing more viable.
sato113
7th June 2010, 2:23
glad the btcc was fun keith. i watched it all day on tv. great action in especially the last race.
where did you watch the btcc races from on the circuit?
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
7th June 2010, 8:12
I was at Cascades for race one, Old Hall for race two and then Knickerbrook and Clay Hill for race three.
sato113
7th June 2010, 10:15
i bet cascades and old hall were fun, alot of drivers ran wide there.
sato113
7th June 2010, 2:27
on the subject of the tv awards, lets not forget how much harder the f1 productions teams work. the athletics was only in one location once, whereas the f1 happens 20 times in a year all over the globe. now that’s alot more effort.
Pinball - roadography.com
7th June 2010, 4:21
I agree with Bill’s the comment of the day. I would like to see F1 cover more of the world. Having said that though, even if there was one race every weekend of the year over half of the countries in the world would still miss out.
So what I would like to see is the current F1 world championship retained and in addition have F1 regional championships – Europe, Americas, Asia, Africa. The way it would work is that World Championship teams would be allowed to put into production their previous years car and sell these for teams to race in the regional championship. Think kind of like Dallara and HRT, except good. Regional championships would produce a huge pool of world championship ready drivers who in time could step up into the main game with F1 experience. It would also enable the world championship teams to reduce costs; the way F1 works at the moment is all the teams invest thousands of dollars of R&D into a car that gets driven for 18 races. They then start again. If they could produce 50 versions of the previous seasons car and sell to teams in regional championships it would give them a chance to claw back some of the money they had invested in R&D. This would also enable interest in motorsport in countries that current don’t have much interest, boosting attendance numbers when the world championship series visits.
Harv's
7th June 2010, 6:28
I was born in S.A. the South African GP was last run in 93′ and if i can remember corectly mandella was ellected in 94′.
And i remember a very controvesial GP in 85′.
Things in south africa are still very race (not a gp race, but color of skin race) related, at the time (and still is) motorsport in SA was considered a very white mans sport, and the South African GP was a very white man event, the South African GP was backed by the very white Government, when Nelson Mandella and the black government came to power the support for the GP from the government pretty much disapeared. Sport in SA is still quite race dominated, Soccer in SA is a Black Mans sport, and Rugby in SA is very much a White Mans sport.
You can see this by comparing team photo’s of the Springboks and the SA soccer team, The reason the SA GP hasnt been around is because of the man in charge, however a track has been proposed recently to be built by the Cape Town International Airport. (designed by Tilke)
I Mean no offence by anything that i have said above.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
7th June 2010, 8:16
I did wonder if that might be part of the explanation. As you say it’s controversial but perception is important.
Having said that, surely Lewis Hamilton will have helped changed that perception?
Harv's
7th June 2010, 23:44
Im not sure that it has, having a black man in the sport probably hasnt changed the perception of the sport in SA, due to the fact that he is not a proper black man, the sport is still dominated by white people.
The reason that other FIA events have taken part in SA recently is bacause there is less money involved, so less money comes from the government to fund it, but in current day F1, races are funded heavily by the government, Singapore and the UAE come to mind. In SA at the moment, I do not see any reason for the government to want to spend those sums of money on a GP, if they did decide to bring back the South African GP it would definatly not be to help restore history, a history that Im sure the government would most likely want to forget.
_McPhil_
7th June 2010, 6:31
Hi guys, seeing as I live around the corner of Kyalami and drive past it every day, I thought I would post a few comments about it…
When the new owners took over the track, one of the first things they did was sell half the land. It is now a business park.
The surface of the track is crap, I don’t think they have resurfaced since rebuilding the track in the early 1990’s.
There is no parking inside the venue, well, there is, but for about 200 cars, maybe.
The pit/paddock area is very small. The modern day F1 trucks will never fit. There isn’t even space for one team and all their trucks.
Organisation is very bad. The World Superbikes were here recently, and ONE DAY before the race, Kyalami put a billboard up in front of the track advertising the race.
The Gauteng Provincial government tried sponsering a F1 team. Did anyone notice the “GO-GP” logo’s on the BMW Saubers last year? That was a total waste of millions of $$…
At the moment SA is spending a lot of money on The Gautrain ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautrain ), and obviously the World Cup. Then also we have the GFIP (Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project). All of this is costing SA over R15 billion. Which is alot for a small country like us.
I think for us to host an F1 race we would have to build a brand new purpose built facility, and that will not happen anytime soon…
Check out Kyalami on Google Earth here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=&sll=-25.996817,28.072085&sspn=0.0238,0.045447&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=&ll=-25.998939,28.06921&spn=0.023799,0.045447&t=h&z=15
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
7th June 2010, 8:17
I saw the A1 race there (on TV) a few years ago, it certainly looked bumpy.
AB576
7th June 2010, 6:46
All i know is the Speedtv’s coverage of F1 in the US is the worst coverage of motor racing I have seen. Don’t get me wrong, the commentators are enthusiastic enough, but the quality of their analysis, numerous ‘inside jokes’ and pure lack of seriousness is astounding. BBC is the best coverage I have seen (Star Sports in Asia is not bad either).
Funnily enough today I saw Bloomberg TV in the US showing 1 month old GT1 races! Extremely random.
carldec
7th June 2010, 9:29
I am with you on the SpeedTV coverage AB576. I hope having a race in Austin is going to improve the coverage.
The biggest problem is the total lack of any coverage of the sport outside 2nd practice, qualifying and the race. SpeedTV has dozens of hours of coverage of Nascar off the track, but almost nothing about F1.
Even their hour long racing news show only has a minute or so recap on race weekends. Nothing at all on the off weekends.
There is no analysis, no in depth reporting.. just what information you can pick up during practice.
F1 Debrief is good, but its shown once at midnight the night before qualifying.
Thank god for the internet and sites like this…
macahan
7th June 2010, 16:33
Big part of the lack of coverage we have to thank the viewers for. There are loads more people interested in Nascar then F1. Also we have to thank FIA as well charging outrageous amounts for the rights to broadcast. If F1 say cost twice as much as Nascar but only have half the audience?
As for the commentators. Sure they have some bad inside jokes at time but with a former driver and a former mechanic they do provide a lot of useful insights and pickout lot of things and give a pretty good analysis of situations. The people they had this year however doing the pitlane interviews have left a lot to desire, I miss Peters insight and pretty sharp questions.
F1 Debrief it’s a shame it has such a poor air time, I often do not view it because it’s shown at midnight then to have quali at 7am. So up until 1am then up again at 7am. I DVR it and watch it Sat night usually. I wish they would at least run it at 11. Also wish they did the show the week AFTER the race instead of waiting for next race weekend since usually you have 2 weeks between races it would be nice to have something to look forward to in the time between.
What happen to the race introduction show? The half an hour show they used to run before F1 Debrief that showed info about the upcoming race? I miss that show it was fun to learn more about the upcoming race (track, city, nation, sights and history).
While at it. GP2 I so wish they showed the GP2 feature race on Sat (even if not live) and did full coverage of the Sprint race on Sun. As is showing the feature race at 5am with just highlights of the Sprint race on Sunday before the F1 race sucks. I DVR it and watch it later (might be sunday or might be days later). A Sat showing of GP2 would be nice to bide time between F1 quali and race.
Also VERY annoying that the Quali is NOT live but 10 min time delayed. By the time Q3 really is over in real life they JUST start showing it on TV. I started to hunt down live streams online and use the Ipod app or the live stats from formula1 main site.
It wouldn’t be to bad if they would start out 10 min late but get closer to live during commercials in the break between q1/q2 and q2/q3 so that Q3 would either be shown live or just a bit time delayed. But I’m sure there are $$$ reasons behind it since I’m sure FIA wants loads more for live feed rights then time delayed. Sucks for the fans.
FIA/FOM/CVC PLEASE give us a live feed solution such as Indycars racecontrol. I would even be willing to pay $50-$100 a year for that if it was live.
Maciek
7th June 2010, 7:45
Here some fairly cool Spa-Francorchamps footage from the movie Grand Prix (1966) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tby3sEiTU8Y
Anybody have links for an onboard lap of the old circuit?
matt88
7th June 2010, 10:14
Really cool, i have to find this movie somewhere to watch it! I’ve already loved Frankenheimer’s abilities in ‘Ronin’, especially those wonderful car chases (not that Fast&Furious crap), but this is really awesome.
sato113
7th June 2010, 10:19
what documentary is that clip from?
Scribe
7th June 2010, 12:41
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_%28film%29
not exactly a documentary.
sato113
7th June 2010, 16:46
no i don’t think that’s it. ‘Grand Prix’ is a film with high quality video, actors and none of that analysis type commentary you hear in that clip above…
OEL
7th June 2010, 10:26
Webber stays with Red Bull for 2011! On Autosport.
OEL
7th June 2010, 10:28
And here on F1Fanatic as well.
Osvaldas
7th June 2010, 10:33
Keith, can you embed link with all f1 drivers’ twitter accounts. Thank you in advance :)
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
7th June 2010, 10:46
You mean like this?
F1 Twitter directory
Untitled258
7th June 2010, 10:43
Tbh, I don’t buy all this ‘oh if we don’t race in every continant then it’s not a true a world champ’ as far as I’m concerned it should be that the drivers come from all around the world, so they can compete agaisnt overs from aroud the world, it doesn’t matter where they race IMO
S Hughes
7th June 2010, 11:03
I thought the ITV coverage of the 2008 championship was a million times better than the rubbish the BBC have been feeding us. It is so shoddy and Legard is execrable as a commentator. The 3 stooges – Humphrey, Coulthard and Jordan – are an embarrassment and so unprofessional, with not much of interest to say. Rider, Brundle, Allen, Kravitz, Blundell, were so much better (luckily we still have Kravitz and Brundle). It’s a shame we will have to put up with this for so many years.
Mark Hitchcock
7th June 2010, 13:31
The presenters are one of the major improvements in my opinion.
Watching Rider “present” the BTCC coverage on ITV4 is embarrassing. He barely knows what’s going on! Same goes for Blundell in the old F1 coverage, he never said anything of interest.
The BBC have taken the people who were good (Kravitz and Brundle) and left the ones who contributed nothing.
Jake is enthusiastic as evidenced by his blogs, twitter and the way he presents the show. He’s not just reading from a script with little interest in the sport.
Coulthard and Jordan aren’t so good…but they’re still better than Blundell and Rider.
David A
7th June 2010, 16:06
You like ad breaks? Missing press conferences and post race analysis so they can switch to Coronation Street? Steve Rider and Mark Blundell were practically cringeworthy throughout their time doing the F1! Jake makes for a great presenter and Coulthard always has better things to say than the useless Blundell. ITV could never be forgiven for the ad breaks at the climax of the 2005 San Marino Grand Prix, and I agree with Mark Hitchcock, the BBC coverage is far, far better than the poor stuff we got from ITV.
Ned Flanders
7th June 2010, 11:51
I had a dream last night that the Form was back up… I know, very sad, F1 Fanatic has infiltrated my sleep! Any news on that Keith?
Ned Flanders
7th June 2010, 11:51
Obviously I mean Forum not Form
Owen G
7th June 2010, 17:09
Thanks for the birthday wishes Keith.
Hopefully I’ll get a cracking Canadian GP for a present.
(and a good prediction comp score!)
Spud
7th June 2010, 22:23
Talk about wanting to get the perfect shot!! They probably got the same adrenalin rush as the drivers!!!