The FIA has announced it will bring back the ‘107% rule’ in 2011.
From next year drivers whose best times are more than 7% slower than the fastest time set in the first part of qualifying will not be allowed to start the race.
The World Motor Sports Council announced today:
From 2011, any driver whose best qualifying lap exceeds 107% of the fastest Q1 qualifying time will not be allowed to take part in the race.
Under exceptional circumstances, however, which may include setting a suitable lap time in a free practice session, the stewards may permit the car to start the race. Should there be more than one driver accepted in this manner, the grid order will be determined by the stewards.
The 107% rule was previously abolished at the end of 2002.
Had the rule as proposed been in place this year it would have prevented both HRT drivers from starting in Bahrain and Malaysia. Lucas di Grassi would have been out of the Malaysian race as well, leaving just 21 cars on the grid.
Bruno Senna would have missed out on racing at Barcelona – by just one-hundredth of a second – and Karun Chandhok wouldn’t have been on the grid at Canada last week.
All this assumes the stewards not handing out dispensations – without which Fernando Alonso would not have been able to start at Monaco either.
Read more: Why F1 doesn’t need the 107% rule
Kate
23rd June 2010, 14:00
Good.
Hopefully it will stop Luca whinging at least.
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys)
23rd June 2010, 14:09
Oh, I expect the new teams will be considerably faster in 2011 than they are this year.
matt90 (@matt90)
23rd June 2010, 14:48
Except for the new team coming next year. Of course, they should be better prepared than the teams this year, but that’s dependant on how much the FIA mess about before picking someone, and if they face any financial difficulties between now and the first race. If they arrive in financial doubt, and then have the season that HRT have had so far, they wouldn’t have competed in enough races to maintain sponsorship and could go under. Hypothetical of course, but it seems silly to introduce this rule until all teams have a season of competing under their belts.
matt90 (@matt90)
23rd June 2010, 14:49
oops, massive italics fail.
bosyber
23rd June 2010, 15:21
But a good point nevertheless. If the new team fail that rule, they might want to sue FIA for the late decision on which team it will be, forcing them to be late with development.
ajokay (@)
23rd June 2010, 14:49
Apart from Team 13, whoever they may be. They might need a helping hand.
BasCB
23rd June 2010, 20:11
That is, except the 13th team! Good the FIA waited with announcing them until after this clarifying of rules.
Those appliants might just give up altogether now. Time is running out to do a decent car, they will be up against cars with KERS and adjustable bodywork and will possibly be at the race weekends only on friday and saturday.
As they will have no possibility to test between races and no race-miles to get experience (like HRT is now doing impressively) it will be impossible to get anyhwere during the year. So why bother.
Ben Curly
24th June 2010, 11:24
Exactly. This rule is closing the door for the new teams. It’s a pity really.
It would be a good idea to allow the teams which are not allowed to race to get a bonus practice session, during which they could test and maybe improve their car. Otherwise this rule will be bad for the sport.
Sush Meerkat
24th June 2010, 9:36
No no, he’ll find something else to complain about.
zecks
23rd June 2010, 14:05
But what happens if like in monaco this year, a driver who is fast enough (alonso) crashes in P3 and doesn’t post a time in Q1, would they not be allowed to start?
Tombong
23rd June 2010, 14:06
“Under exceptional circumstances, however, which may include setting a suitable lap time in a free practice session, the stewards may permit the car to start the race”
Scalextric (@scalextric)
23rd June 2010, 14:08
“If a Ferrari is affected by weather or mechanical difficulties of course it will be allowed to start”.
Scalextric (@scalextric)
23rd June 2010, 14:16
Sorry, obvious troll. Cheesy grin.
LewisC
23rd June 2010, 18:53
Dead right, mind ;)
Mike
24th June 2010, 15:42
If a Ferrari sets a quick enough time in p3, and then crashes so it can’t complete Q, will it get in?
If a HRT sets a quick enough time in p3, and then crashes so it can’t complete Q, will it get in?
This worries me.
BasCB
23rd June 2010, 20:13
lets hope the stewards will keep a spot open for the new team next year as well. Otherwise the applicants might just pull of the tender right now.
Perico
23rd June 2010, 14:08
“Under exceptional circumstances, however, which may include setting a suitable lap time in a free practice session, the stewards may permit the car to start the race.”
Perico
23rd June 2010, 14:08
Tombong was quicker than me.
GR
23rd June 2010, 14:30
So long as you weren’t 7% slower you’ll be ok
matt90 (@matt90)
23rd June 2010, 14:50
haha, brilliant.
Mark Hitchcock (@mark-hitchcock)
23rd June 2010, 14:05
Doing their best to put off new teams from joining next year aren’t they?
matt90 (@matt90)
23rd June 2010, 14:52
Yeah I was thinking that. Any team which has applied but already had some reservations is going to be doubting their application.
Pinball - roadography.com
24th June 2010, 2:41
Yeap I agree.
What new team in their right mind would want to apply to compete in Formula 1? In the event that if they are accepted they aren’t even guaranteed a spot of the grid for the races, who is going to pay to design, build, and send cars around the world to maybe be allowed to compete?
As seen this year most new teams have enough trouble getting a car to the first race, understandably, I imagine it’s a steep learning curve. So given that, all new teams are going to start off slow. With in-season testing banned, how are new teams meant to get some mileage down in order to understand the car to enable development of the car to improve it, to be competitive, if they aren’t allowed to take part in the race?
If there is no opportunity for them to take part in the race to develop and improve, how will they attract sponsors? If their cars aren’t seen on TV then sponsors aren’t interested. If they don’t attract sponsors then they don’t have money. If they don’t have money, they don’t pay their bills and they collapse.
So the powers that be want more people to invest millions of dollars to be allowed to enter Formula 1, but then want to make it as hard as possible for any new team to have any chance of surviving?
DaveW
23rd June 2010, 14:08
What if an excluded driver is named Valentino Rossi and he is driving a no-points Ferrari?
mani
23rd June 2010, 14:14
I just don’t like this may or may nots in the rules… can’t they write a concrete rule???
However, 2011 would be the right time to bring it in, if at all it has to be. New comers had their time to settle down this year and they should be within 107% next year.
Red Andy (@red-andy)
23rd June 2010, 17:20
The force majeure element was in place back when the original 107% rule was being used. Back at the French GP in 1999, six drivers (I think), including Damon Hill in a reasonably quick Jordan, failed to set a time within 107% of Barrichello’s pole time because of the appalling weather conditions. All were allowed to start the race as their performance was obviously out of their hands. Basically the FIA can’t legislate for every eventuality, so they have to write possibilities like that into the rules.
Dougie
23rd June 2010, 14:21
This is not good for the 13th team, who now have more speed to find in increasingly less time. This is why I don’t currently approve of Todt & his FIA.
…and why do the stewards need to decide the order. Just do it as per the lap times, outside 107% or not, and if no time just at the back as currently.
BasCB
23rd June 2010, 20:15
That’s for the Ferrari guy who threw his car in the wall on saturday morning!
macahan
23rd June 2010, 23:14
The only way I can see this to really be of a good use is to allow a team that fails and has less then 2 years on the grid to allow them more testing. So say you fail to hit the 107% in quali or practice and it’s a team that not done 2 seasons they would be allowed 1 extra test day per time they fail. This year that would have allowed HRT 6 more testing days. Or simply limit the total amount of testing days to say 15 full day regular testing days but they are allowed to spread them out over the first 6 races. With a special dispensation that a new entry are allowed to do 2-3 extra testing days as late as 8th race. This would allowed HRT to still done testing even though their car wasn’t ready until first race. They could brought it home done a couple of testing days gone to next race ran there and done a couple of more testing days.
Basically as is today HRT has FINALLY made the same amount of distance as all other teams did before the first race and we are now on race 9. With testing I am fairly certain they would been way clear of the 107% margin. Virgin are and they only got a few days testing before the first race and had to treat their first few races as testing weekends.
As late as Lotus got their team application approved and car finished they to could used some extra days of testing after the season started to give them the chance of getting to same level of testing as all other teams.
This would also allow teams to do some single one of testing after the start of the season but no later then say 1/3 into the season IF they gave up 1 or 2 testing days pre-season (like Red Bull they didn’t use all test days before first race) so hypothetical they could used a couple of testing days after the fact. Maybe trade 1.5 days of pre season testing for 1 day testing in the first 1/3 of the season.
qwerty_uk
24th June 2010, 9:00
“Increasingly less time”.
That’s well bad :-)
Shimks
23rd June 2010, 14:29
What a terrible decision. Totally useless and very harmful.
Idiots. I’m very disappointed.
Todfod
23rd June 2010, 14:34
I’m actually looking forward to this rule being implemented. This year, HRT and Virgin have been nothing more than roadblocks for the front runners, and I think their presence has done nothing for the sport so far.
I do not know about you but I am not looking forward to another ‘Tortoise Racing’ F1 team.
matt90 (@matt90)
23rd June 2010, 14:55
Give each team a year and it will be fine, and there’ll be more competition. But this rule could prevent next years new team from establishing itself, which might not make much of a difference at the time, but will possibly deny us the chance of them improving and competing for the following year.
Todfod
23rd June 2010, 17:50
I do not know if we really need more competition.And how will a 13th team improve the quality of the races?
Achilles
23rd June 2010, 18:34
F1 needs fresh blood, all the teams must recognise this, this kind of ruling will not be welcomed by potential sponsors of new teams,
Williams are already struggling, and along with Ferrari, and Mclaren, have served F1 longest, without enough cash to compete, will we see one of the historic teams fall foul of a poor ruling?
matt90 (@matt90)
24th June 2010, 1:52
Well how would it detract? What’s the harm in adding another tem to mix it with the midfield within a couple of years.
Shimks
24th June 2010, 9:28
Hi Todfod. I disagree with you for several reasons.
Most people love an underdog. I relish watching the new teams trying to establish themselves and grow stronger. It’s another interested aspect of the sport. Also, more cars on the grid: more drivers to watch, more teams to watch, more variables thrown into the mix. I was really disappointed we only got 12 teams onto the grid this year and I can’t wait for 26 cars.
And I really don’t understand people’s negative opinion on back-markers. An integral part of racing should be to lap slower cars as successfully as possible, losing the least time. The drivers of slower cars are no more dangerous than other drivers on the circuit. If they are, they shouldn’t have been granted a super licence. The passing of back-markers throws another skill test at the front-runners. That’s why I am also opposed to blue flags. I don’t see why they are necessary, and I think they are often dangerous. The drivers have team radios for when they are in any doubt whether they are racing an HRT or whether it is a backmarker. I think there should be a change in the rules: back-markers should not fight for position against front-runners, but should in no way need to allow cars past. Like I said before, it should be up to the front-runners to use their skills to pass cars as smoothly as possibly. The races would be much more interesting like this.
The only possible benefit I can see coming out of the 107% rule is that it could help there being less disparity between the performance of teams after engine freezes. Maybe the 107% rule would help highlight inadequacies in the engine-freeze rule, which is another rule I think is ridiculous for F1. But that’s another story.
Metallion
23rd June 2010, 22:50
I don’t think the problem is the new teams being slow. The problem is that they had to get their cars ready in a very short space of time because of political matters and then on top of that there’s no testing allowed anymore. So of course new teams will need a year or two to get up to speed.
I think with the 107% rule back, more testing is required. With the 107% rule and no testing, how would HRT ever have got any miles on their car. It’s fine for established teams, but not for new ones.
Patrickl
23rd June 2010, 14:29
In Q1 the topteams aren’t doing their fastest laps anyway. They can often find another second or even more in Q3.
DaveW
23rd June 2010, 14:35
If I expect to qualify on pole or thereabouts, I would relish the chance to knock a couple backmarkers out of the race before it even began, by putting my foot down a bit in Q1. Especially at Monaco or Canada.
Pradeek
23rd June 2010, 14:36
“Under exceptional circumstances, however, which may include setting a suitable lap time in a free practice session, the stewards may permit the car to start the race.”
Are there any clear specification on what these “exceptional circumstances” will be?
“Should there be more than one driver accepted in this manner, the grid order will be determined by the stewards.”
Again, any clarity on what basis will be done?
Becken
23rd June 2010, 15:01
Those “exceptional circumstances” is to allow a McLaren or a Ferrari to race when any “exceptional” situation put them in the 107% rule…
Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn)
23rd June 2010, 15:09
Usually wet qualifying sessions were exempt from 107%, and sometimes if it was a driver or teams home race they’d be let off. Most teams who didn’t qualify within 107% would usually appeal – for example at Canada Chandhok was outside 107% because of a gearbox problem and would probably have been allowed to race.
Mouse_Nightshirt (@mouse_nightshirt)
23rd June 2010, 17:36
I remember in Grand Prix Manager 2, only 3 cars were allowed to be disqualified from the race for 107%, all the rest were allowed due to “exceptional” circumstances…
Macca (@macca)
23rd June 2010, 14:43
This will make the top teams push harder in Q1 next year to try and eliminate as many cars as possible.
David
23rd June 2010, 14:44
This 107% rule is valid on safety grounds as closing speeds have been visibly dangerous at times this year. It really has seemed like the front runners have been absolutely flying past the HRTs and the like at certain venues. However, I think to introduce it from the start of next season is premature. The new teams should cope with the change but the as yet to be announced new team will find it very difficult to achieve a lap time within 107%. It is necessary to introduce this rule again though in order to maintain F1 as a single category series, any slower than 107% and you might as well invite the top GP2 teams to have a go as they would be better organised than the rabble at the back at least.
BasCB
23rd June 2010, 20:20
Thats utter nonsense. During Friday and saturday morning you have cars running with different fuel loads, tyres and testing completely new bits. So times can have enormous differences.
So what will deciding on this AFTER qualifying help safety? In the race the drivers can drive as fast or slow as they want. Look at Schumi or Vettel losing up to 5 seconds per lap, or drivers on slicks in the wet (or wets on a drying track).
Safety is a nonsense with this rule. To do this on safety grounds, the FIA would have to make teams prove a certain level of speed BEFORE taking part in trainging with their car or driver. That’s what the selection proces, testing and granting superlicenses is about
matt90 (@matt90)
23rd June 2010, 14:57
Actually, had the rule been implemented this year I expect HRT would have missed more races than the ones mentioned. For every race they would have missed they would have lost what was essentially testing time, and may not have progressed as much as they have, therefore missing even more races.
bosyber
23rd June 2010, 15:25
Quite. And similar to Virgin, who needed a bit of time before discovering their fuel-pickup problem (that also would slow them in qualy.) Not to mention time to sort the Xtrack gearbox hydraulic problems.
Rubbish Dave (@rubbish-dave)
23rd June 2010, 14:58
If they aren’t going to allow slower teams to race (which I find absurd), then I hope at least they’ll allow extra testing for them to both find the required speed, and to make up for lost track time.
bosyber
23rd June 2010, 15:26
That would be good, yes, and might even make the rule fair.
PJA
23rd June 2010, 15:07
This could hurt whoever is chosen as the 13th team for 2011. The amount of time they will have to get a car designed and built will mean they will be off the pace and then they might not be allowed to race.
Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn)
23rd June 2010, 15:11
Fine with me. The only worry is that it’s going to have a bit of an unfair effect on the 13th team next year, unless they’re extremely well prepared. Another HRT-like situation and it’s going to be tough for them.
Tiomkin
23rd June 2010, 16:20
Why is this a good thing? Imagine a very fast redbull or mclaren and a half empty grid behind them as most don’t qualify. If I paid to go to a GP and that happened I’d want my money back plus expenses. Second thought: I’ll just stay at home.
All this tinkering makes me mad. LEAVE THE RULES ALONE.
Adrian
23rd June 2010, 16:23
I think that would also fall under the “Exceptional circumstances” clause…
Tiomkin
24th June 2010, 16:20
Then why bother having it if you aren’t going to enforce it. No other sport in the world would do this crap, year in year out. Rule meddling.
Once again I classify F1 as ‘sport entertainment’. In the same bag as pro wrestling.
Michael
23rd June 2010, 16:26
Shouldn’t it be called the 93% rule?
jsw11984 (@jarred-walmsley)
23rd June 2010, 21:07
No, because if it was 93% then the pole time could be 93% less than the slowest time, so the slowest time could be almost double.
the 7% rule says that the slowest time cannot be any more than 7% slower, i.e. a 1:20 pole time means the slowest time could only be 1:27
pedant
24th June 2010, 2:51
Wouldn’t 107% of 1:20 (80 seconds) be 1:25.6?
Or are you applying the exception rule to the time, not the car? :)
jsw11984 (@jarred-walmsley)
24th June 2010, 22:18
It was rather early when i did the maths, and some how managed to think 1:20 was 100 seconds, oops
Calum
23rd June 2010, 16:44
If the new teams are going to lose track time next year for not being able to qualify and participate in races, how are they supposed to improve and be able to get good enough to actually be able to compete!!
A solution could be if they don’t qualify for Sunday, they can get a race distance on track after the race/ after qualifying in order to test some and get track time they would have missed. If they can’t race then it’s pointless them being there in the first place!!
GeorgeK
23rd June 2010, 17:08
If given an exclusive license to race in F1, how can they then say if your not fast enough go home? Especially when there is limited testing time for car improvements DURING the season???
TBone
23rd June 2010, 17:12
I see some sense in the rule but can’t see how it’s fair on the new teams. At the moment HRT, Lotus and Virgin realistically only have 20 minutes in Q1 to produce their quickest time. They will have no chance to respond to new fastest times being set in Q2 or Q3 – at tracks like Canada and Monaco which rubber-in much more over the course of a weekend, they’re effectively being double punished. So they will find themselves qualifying 24th but well within 107% of the fastest Q1 time, only for the front-runners to improve in Q2 or Q3 and knock them out without any chance to respond.
nvHerman
23rd June 2010, 17:23
Thought the article stated that the 107% will be based on Q1 Pole time, so your hypothetical situation will never arise
ccolanto
23rd June 2010, 17:17
I’m glad they specified Q1, or else we’d see a lot of drivers being affected by weather conditions, like we seen in Malaysia this year or Monza last year.
Icthyes (@icthyes)
23rd June 2010, 17:18
So a new team that comes in only 0.2s behind the next fastest car but is outside of 107% can’t race? And then they don’t get the data from racing, so stay behind and consistently fail to get outside of 107%. Team goes broke, people lose their jobs. Second joke announcement of the day, what’s F1 coming to?
BasCB
23rd June 2010, 20:24
I think that is exactly the point. Luca gets what he wants, all teams applying for next year just pull out before wasting any time on this scam.
I see no good reason for this. If they want to have a possibility to punish drivers going to slow, then do it another way with more parameters to get a permanent superlicence.
glue (@glue)
23rd June 2010, 17:23
aside from the fact that maybe the cars next year will be within 107%, what about the fact that there aren’t spare cars any more?..if anyone(especially a frontrunner) makes a mistake in qualifying, they’re out if they didn’t have a good enough time..but I guess that’s what all those “exceptional circumstances” are about
I do think it’s a good rule however, despite it set to be useless at some point
Hallard
23rd June 2010, 17:27
This is assanine. Doesnt everyone WANT 26 cars on the grid? Now they’ve made formula 1 an even more daunting task for potential new entrants. Also, I think that the new rule where the rear wings can be continuously adjusted in qualifying (also ridiculous), may widen the gap between the top teams and the backmarkers in qualifying, depending on how well they can implement such a system.
BasCB
23rd June 2010, 20:26
They will probably not even go through the trouble of equipping it. Same for KERS. They lose only say 2 % of time, so maybe we will have only 14-18 cars racing.
Good time for Ferrari to begin about bringing a 3rd car agaiin.
Hallard
23rd June 2010, 20:56
More good points, BasCB. I didnt even consider the potential KERS debacle…
And all this comes in the midst of a GREAT formula 1 season! Why must they “improve the show”?!
Rob
24th June 2010, 12:57
Exactly – everyone wants 26 cars but only 20 will be fast enough, so along comes Luca on his noble ‘prancing horse’ to generously offer to fill out the grid with additional cars.
Bernie and Jean drop to their knees and throws their hands to the heavens praising the saintly Italian on his magnificent steed. Such is their gratitude for this selfless act they gift Ferrari the opportunity to score manufacturer points on up to 4 cars, and a veto on any rules they don’t approve of, as well as the new ‘Luca says’ event at every grand prix where Di Montezemolo rides around the track on a cherry picker before the race, shouting through a loudhailer at the crowd telling them what he was thinking last night after a few glasses of wine.
I can’t wait!
David A
24th June 2010, 15:21
Well, three car teams won’t happen. Two car teams are here to stay.
PJA
23rd June 2010, 17:34
I thought I would have a look at the recent article on the 1993 South African GP and see which drivers would not have qualified if this system had been in place, (hopefully my maths is correct).
https://www.racefans.net/2010/06/11/1993-south-african-grand-prix-flashback/
The pole time set by Prost in the Williams-Renault was 1’15.696 (75.696 seconds) so 107% of this would be 1’20.995 (80.995 seconds).
So Barbazza in the Minardi-Ford in 24th place would have just sneaked in with 1’20.994 but the two Lola-Ferraris of Alboreto and Badoer would not have made it.
Fer no.65
23rd June 2010, 17:35
This is virtually killing the new team even before it’s born as one…
why couldn’t FIA choose which team will compete next year the same day they clarify all this rules?
taurus
23rd June 2010, 17:53
Stupid decision. Be prepared for a return to 20 car grids.
Backmarkers are part of the sport, frontrunners should have to negotiate them and deal with them.
Lee Sharp
23rd June 2010, 17:53
people have been asking what happens if a driver spins or crashes out, the rule of if a driver sets a suitable time in practice is used already in american for Indycar.
Steph90 (@steph90)
23rd June 2010, 18:16
The one thing I don’t like about this is that it’s a completely random number.
Maybe it’s needed now. We’ve always had slow cars but with GP2 cars it isn’t the same anymore as F1 cars should always be quicker. I don’t think it will make any difference though as this year’s new cars should be quicker or out of the sport and the new teams coming in aren’t under such a cloud of will-there-won’t-there be budget cap.
George (@george)
23rd June 2010, 18:23
Any number would be a random number though, if they’re going to bring in the rule they have to draw the line somewhere.
Steph90 (@steph90)
23rd June 2010, 22:18
Well they could have done 100%. They could have picked an actual number of seconds. I take your point but 107% is the randomest of the random
George (@george)
24th June 2010, 0:42
They couldn’t do it as a number of seconds as tracks vary from say 1m15s at monaco to over 2 minutes. At the start of the year all of the new teams were around the 107% mark, iirc only Hispania were out of it in Bahrain, which in itself shows that it was doing it’s job (they had no testing, hadn’t even driven the car for christ’s sake).
George (@george)
23rd June 2010, 18:23
I’ve always been a mild fan of the 107% rule, unless a team really struggles with the new tyres I think it’ll go unused.
BasCB
23rd June 2010, 20:27
As no team will now want to get the 13th spot you might be right about that.
Klon
23rd June 2010, 19:02
Well, if you review the failures to meet 107 %, with the sole exception of Senna at Barcelona, every one of them falls under special circumstances (crashes, rain or transmission problem), so it just shows how pointless this rule is.
Jake Butler
23rd June 2010, 19:40
I think a 26 car grid is the minimum for a GP…as do a lot of the F1 world…at least thats what WE (the fans) want Jean-take note! Don’t do a Max-not listen and do whatever you can to **** the sport i love.
HounslowBusGarage
23rd June 2010, 19:50
In many ways I can understand the problem caused by slower teams. Speed differential is a major problem for front runners, but that’s what blue flags are for.
And I don’t see why the technical brilliance of one team becomes a ‘go home early’ order for another team.
So I think I’d prefer to see a system whereby Team 13 is not penalised by the super efficient front runner team that turns up with a demon-tweak gaining it a second a lap over it’s rivals.
Maybe, something 103.5% of the average of all Q1 times, instead of 107% of the absolute fastest.
BasCB
23rd June 2010, 20:29
For me the whole rule is nonsense, but for getting a more reliable number making more sense, your proposal seems to be a pretty good one.
S.J.M
23rd June 2010, 19:58
Having read, and re-read the article, im not so against it. Its just Q1 times, and most of the top teams will use the harder compound tyre for this (the slower teams nearly always use softs) so it shouldnt cause too much in the way of upsets to the established teams, and “shouldnt” punish the newbies (assuming their cars are closer to the pack next season)
If anything, we should see some much more exciting Q1 action, with drivers looking to make sure their in the 107% time. And hopefully, a more mixed grid if the newbies manage to find some more speed. The only other thing i can think of, is that more experienced F1 drivers might find employment as teams look to field drivers who will definatley find themselves qualifying, rather then a young driver with a rich backer/sponsorship who could be a liability.
disjunto
23rd June 2010, 21:48
it’s not like the slower teams aren’t going to be going 110% in Q1 anyway attempting to hit Q2, all this rule will do is make it harder for the new teams to get any sponsorship money
Dougie (@f1droid)
23rd June 2010, 21:20
I think simply this is a crazy time to introduce this rule, 2012 would be better to give the new team arriving next year a chance. Not that the FIA obviously wants to do that.
Personally scrap this rule, and the blue flags, and lets race. Backmarkers always have been a fundamental part of F1, all the best drivers had to deal with them through the ages, now ain’t any different. If Alonso et al was any good this would be a non-event.
disjunto
23rd June 2010, 21:46
sigh, hopefully all teams are up to the 107% mark straight away next season, otherwise I’m not going to bother going to the races
F1Yankee
23rd June 2010, 22:26
i have mixed feelings about this. i like the fact that entrants are required to meet a quantifiable standard for entry. however, this could be a financial back-breaker for multiple teams. it’s going to be a lot tougher to find sponsors if you can’t guarantee an appearance on race day.
i’m not sure which would make for a better sport:
1. 12 or 13 teams x 2 cars each, most of them with no hope of winning. despite the high level of parity presently in the sport, the majority of entrants compete for mid-pack status.
2. 8 teams x 3 cars each, only the largest of franchises survive. sacrifice variety and character for the fastest, most expensive grid possible.
Mr draw
23rd June 2010, 23:15
We needed the 107%-rule in the first races of the present season. Next year it’ll be useless.
OS X
24th June 2010, 0:26
This rule should be phased in for any new team looking to enter Formula One. Maybe 110% first year, then 107% from the second year onwards.
If this is coming from a safety point of view, then circuits should be graded by the FIA for degree of danger to overtake a slower car. Tracks like Monaco and Canada would be grade 1; Abu Dhabi and China would be Grade 6. Then the cut off time would be 104% + Circuit Grade eg. Monaco 105%, Abu Dhabi 110%. This would save certain teams lacking sufficient pace to be locked out of all the Sundays.
I really thought that the most obvious change to make in qualification would be the switch to 18, 15 and 12 minute sessions to allow the cars time to have two clear runs in Q3 (remember that the Bahrain lap was about 2 minutes long).
gDog
24th June 2010, 0:50
They need to allow more testing for teams failing to make the 107% mark. If a team is struggling to make the time, how are they supposed to improve under the current testing restrictions? For all teams right now, especially the new teams, the best testing time they have is during the race itself.
gDog
24th June 2010, 1:07
I know what I would do if I was a new team struggling to meet the time.
During free practice setup the cars with all the go fasters gismos banned over the last few years, traction control, ground effects, sucker fan, active suspension, rockets (ok that might be a bit far). All quite discreetly of course and in the name of testing future developments. Go out and set some blistering lap times to get within the 107.
Then comes Q1, revert the car back to a legal spec, fit an exploding tyre, leave the pits near the end of the session, explode the tyre on the slowest corner in the circuit, run out of time during Q1 to fix the car, fail to qualify and then say, “hey, but look at the times we’re capable of in free practice…”
Of course, after a few races of the same pattern people might start getting a little suspicious…
sch-who?
24th June 2010, 3:00
Maybe get Ralf Schumacher back as a test driver, he was always good at exploding tyres :)
wasiF1
24th June 2010, 2:19
According to me the rules are not clear.
Why would there be a exception? Why will the stewards decides the grid slot?
What will happen if it rains then the lap time may vary more than 107%?
disjunto
24th June 2010, 6:38
rain sounds like a good cause for an exception :)
Nixon
24th June 2010, 7:40
Great article Kieth, but i just want to know why is it 107% why not another number? I mean 110% might be a little fairer.
Bleu
24th June 2010, 9:30
The testing rule could be that allow each team one test day for the time they miss 107% and are not allowed to race. Must be used within two weeks and race engines used.
GeeMac
24th June 2010, 9:40
I’m really disappointed that this rule has come back. In the era of testing bans, teams like HRT need all the track time they can get during race weekends. This includes the race. The 107% rule should have come with an additional ryder that a team which consitently (say 3-4 races in a row) fails to meet the 107% marker should be granted additional “on track” testing time.
Dave
24th June 2010, 13:42
This is ridiculous… An act of exclusion against the new teams. They have equal right to race in Formula 1 as they pay the same amount of money and put in their efforts.
East Londoner
24th June 2010, 21:30
Just no to this rule. I hate the 107% rule. This will kill teams.
jsw11984 (@jarred-walmsley)
24th June 2010, 22:52
This is from the RBR forums but I thought i’d share it here to demonstrate how pointless the 107% rule is
Also, this was not me posting on RBR
black fair said…
I’ve checked the other races:
Chandhok would’ve missed the season opener in Bahrain(bit unfair given it was his first time in the car).
All cars would’ve made it in Australia.
Lucas Di Grassi would’ve missed Malaysia.
All cars would’ve made it in China.
As mentioned, Bruno Senna would’ve missed Spain.
All cars would’ve made it in Monaco.
All cars would’ve made it in Turkey.
Karun Chandhok would’ve missed Canada.
The rules state that “Only in extreme circumstances – such as a heavy rain shower during Q1 or a failure to post a quick enough lap – will drivers be granted special dispensation to start by race organisers, who will judge the competitor in question by fastest lap times from practices sessions across the weekend.”
Under this subjective exemption, I believe they all would’ve been able to race:
Chandhok in Bahrain because it was his first time ever in the car. Di Grassi in Malaysia because his time was like 5 seconds off his team mate suggesting a problem. Bruno in Spain because he only missed by 100th a second. And Chandhok in Canada again because his time was way off his team mates suggesting a car problem prevent posting a quick lap.
Enigma (@enigma)
1st July 2010, 12:25
So if someone is within a second of someone in the last sector at Silverstone, he can adjust his wings from the pit straight until Stowe? That’s a BIG advantage.
Enigma (@enigma)
1st July 2010, 12:25
oops, commented on the wrong article