McLaren half a second off Red Bull

41 comments on “McLaren half a second off Red Bull”

1. 

   Ed Hunter
   5th November 2010, 15:22

   Ferrari is around 0.3-0.4 off the pace also. If u look at the FP1 results in past races they ware 1.5 sec behind rb, and now is around 1.9 considering that alonso can go faster then this. i think that this track (like all) suite rb the most. but i cant get out of my head that this track when looked at map looks like GP Germany, with one fast section, and one with slow corners.
   1. 

      rfs
      5th November 2010, 15:25

      Wouldn’t those 3 or 4 tenths lost be down to Ferrari using a dying engine?
      1. 

         Younger Hamilton
         5th November 2010, 15:33

         I dont think so the main theme since Singapore that Ferrari has 1 or 2 more tenths than McLaren.Interlagos is tough on engines those so the 3 or 4 tenths Ferrari would originally be behind Red Bull probably extends further
         1. 

            David-A (@david-a)
            5th November 2010, 16:18

            I dont think so the main theme since Singapore that Ferrari has 1 or 2 more tenths than McLaren.

            Therefore RBR’s rivals have not much to worry about. Red Bull will always find new ways to squander that advantage.
      2. 

         BBT
         5th November 2010, 15:46

         Yes, that would make sense and is probably why they have always been slower in the last few races in FP1 & FP2, they then go quicker in FP3 with a fresher engine.

         On five line they were saying the engine power can be down as much as 40% on a very used engine, not sure how true that is.
         1. 

            DeadManWoking
            5th November 2010, 17:40

            Davidson said that initially but then corrected himself to 40 HP not percent. Imagine a used engine being down 300 HP !!
         2. 

            Icthyes (@icthyes)
            5th November 2010, 22:14

            He was also talking about the Cosworth.
2. 

   Younger Hamilton
   5th November 2010, 15:23

   But even so, the Red Bulls were quickest through every sector. Let me correct that: Sebastian Vettel was quickest through every sector.

   Cocky and rude stuff
   1. 

      Younger Hamilton
      5th November 2010, 15:24

      blockquotes wrong

      But even so, the Red Bulls were quickest through every sector. Let me correct that: Sebastian Vettel was quickest through every sector

      Cocky and rude stuff
      1. 

         David-A (@david-a)
         5th November 2010, 16:19

         Not rude when Webber’s ultimate and actual laps are half a second down on Vettel.
3. 

   Alex White
   5th November 2010, 15:28

   Klien faster than Senna, Again.
   1. 

      RobertG
      5th November 2010, 16:07

      everyone is faster than him xD
      1. 

         Griggs
         5th November 2010, 17:00

         lol, you and your hate for that guy.
         1. 

            RobertG
            5th November 2010, 18:04

            I dont hate, I just say what it is :)
      2. 

         Icthyes (@icthyes)
         5th November 2010, 22:15

         Bruno, everyone is faster than you. GTFO.
4. 

   Johnny86
   5th November 2010, 15:28

   Look at the difference between senna and klien. I guess singapore wasnt a fluke then. I was hoping it to be.
5. 

   Younger Hamilton
   5th November 2010, 15:29

   Red Bull look fast as always.Expect them to be fastest in sectors 1 and 2 but McLaren hold the domination in the final sector.Ferrari,like Ed Quoted i reckon are 3 tenths off Red Bull.Im not making any predictions for pole because its too early to say plus im planning to wait for third practice to make a statement anyway great article Keith despite my early comment.Are we expecting option tyres out for 2nd practice
6. 

   Fahad alam
   5th November 2010, 15:35

   Ferrari kept a low profile in the first session as usual

   Ha they are so clever
   1. 

      BBT
      5th November 2010, 15:48

      No is is because they us older engines,they have always been slower in the last few races in FP1 & FP2, they then go quicker in FP3 with a fresher engine (and trying harder)

      On five live they were saying the engine power can be down as much as 40% on a very used engine, not sure how true that is.
7. 

   Scribe (@scribe)
   5th November 2010, 15:46

   yeesh thats depressing, an McLaren tend to reveal there pace early, not much for the sneakies. Well I hope all this new stuff we keep bringing is going to be damn good next year.

   Ah well, I just about got over this after Japan, now i’ll be a Redbullite, don’t really mind which of their drivers win it now though I’d prefer Mark. Started to think Mark isn’t as nice as he’d like us to think, but still why would he be at this stage, he’s still my hope.

   Still I hold out hope for Lewis doing something amazing, we’ve massivley overdelivered this year helped by Redbull and Ferrari not playing it fantastic in the middle of the season, next year, if we’re properly on the pace, it’ll be our year! ;)
   1. 

      BBQ2
      5th November 2010, 15:50

      If the MP4-26 is not good enough next season, then Jess and Nicole should appear in Pirelli Calendar ;-)
8. 

   BBQ2
   5th November 2010, 15:46

   Why is nobody talking about the engine failure at Ferrari?
   1. 

      Steph (@)
      5th November 2010, 15:51

      Ferrari said it was near the end of its life and just died 2 laps earlier than expected so it isn’t so great a deal. They were planning on changing it anyway. Of course, they would play it down though but I don’t think it’s such a problem.
   2. 

      Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn)
      5th November 2010, 15:52

      It was a really old engine they were expecting to give up. They still have their two raceworthy angines available.
      1. 

         RobertG
         5th November 2010, 18:08

         In the race is Ferni going to use the same engine he used in FP2?
9. 

   macahan
   5th November 2010, 15:48

   But we have as usual no clue of fuel loads. Just best guesses from reports on refueling times etc.

   Ferrari might run on full tanks. Mark might ran higher load then Vettel, Kubica might ran on fumes, Alonso might actully ran out of fuel. ;P
   Clearer picture should emerge after FP2 once the two sessions data is looked at. But will really not be telling until after FP3 how Quali could look like.. As usual…
10. 

    Robbie
    5th November 2010, 15:52

    Red Bulls will probably lock out the front row in qualifying but come race pace, I expect McLarens to overtake them, especially if it’s going to rain.
11. 

    Lopes
    5th November 2010, 16:05

    The Brazilian motorsports website “Grande Premio” is reporting that Lotus has signed Bruno Senna for next year. (In portuguese only)

    http://esporte.ig.com.br/grandepremio/formula1/2010/11/05/com+patrocinio+da+embratel+senna+acerta+com+lotus+e+se+livra+da+hispania+9985064.html

    They report the announcement will only be made after Abu Dhabi. The deal is reportedly counting on the money from Embratel, the brazilian telecom company that was acquired by Telmex in 2006.

    Yes, the same Telmex that is sponsoring Sergio Perez at Sauber next year…
    1. 

       Lopes
       5th November 2010, 16:09

       If that’s confirmed, it will mean that once again we’ll see a Senna driving a Lotus car powered by a Renault engine…
12. 

    Calum
    5th November 2010, 17:12

    Redbull RB7 is going to be more if the same, the RB5 dominated the tail end of 2009, all of 2010 and with no major rule change it should mean the evolution not revolution that is RB7 will be equally quick.

    How can the F2011* or the Mp4-26 compete with the new Redbull because everything they have to give development wise will have gone onto their 2010 challengers now to catch the RBR and it hadn’t worked clearly.

    With all resources in Woking and maranello trying to keep up with the RB6, it just means the Redbull design team have more time than their rivals to develop the RB7 :(
    1. 

       DeadManWoking
       5th November 2010, 17:47

       No major rule changes? No Double Deck Diffusers, No F-Duct, No adjustable front wings, Specified F/R weight balance range. Not to mention possible gimmicky videogame adjustable rear wings.
       1. 

          David-A (@david-a)
          5th November 2010, 22:32

          And the return of KERS, which Red Bull have never used.
13. 

    judo chop
    5th November 2010, 17:40

    How did he crash? Was he using the f-duct on a bend?
    1. 

       judo chop
       5th November 2010, 17:41

       Regarding Petrov’s crash
       1. 

          RobertG
          5th November 2010, 18:11

          http://autosports.delfi.lv/public/

          Video: Petrovs avarē
14. 

    curedcat
    5th November 2010, 18:56

    This was the same as singapore where redbull was at least One second up on the rest of mclaren and ferrari , and the in Q3 , everyone watched as that advantage vaporised . Here its looking even closer
15. 

    tharris19
    5th November 2010, 21:05

    I believe McLaren is through for the year. They cannot compete with the Red Bulls or the Ferraris in the dry or wet. Jenson is not happy with car, Lewis said he is happy with the car and it’s new floor, but it is just to slow to compete with their main competition. This sounds like a variation on a theme when it comes to this car this year.
    The car is suffering from a terminal illness and McLaren should just let it die in peace.
    1. 

       DeadManWoking
       5th November 2010, 22:03

       LOL, just 8 more days and the whole field is obselete anyway. 8)
    2. 

       Renell
       5th November 2010, 22:19

       unfortunately they’re keeping up appearances. the lack of relative improvement brought on by the developments has been thoroughly disappointing
16. 

    CapeFear
    6th November 2010, 0:10

    They need a brand new designer who thinks outside the box. Maybe they should look at how LMP1 cars are designed the exhaust system used on those cars are similar to the RB6
17. 

    9ija4life
    6th November 2010, 23:29

    Some engines may not last this cercuit. I wonder who’s?

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