What did you think of the Australian Grand Prix? Rate the race out of ten and leave a comment below:
Rate the 2011 Australian Grand Prix out of ten
- 10 (1%)
- 9 (5%)
- 8 (20%)
- 7 (39%)
- 6 (22%)
- 5 (7%)
- 4 (3%)
- 3 (1%)
- 2 (1%)
- 1 (1%)
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driftin
27th March 2011, 8:36
6/10 Not a hugely exciting race but it was decent, lots of interesting and tense battles and the strategies brought a lot of dynamics into it. The DRS on the straight does actually bring in a fair bit of excitement and I’m looking forward to seeing more of it in future races.
The most interesting thing about this race was the results: Petrov on the podium (WOAH), Perez on one stop beating Kobayashi in the Saubers and Buemi completing the top 10. Brilliant! And so wonderful to see Petrov beat Alonso again!
If Kubica wasn’t at home in bandages he would’ve been a serious championship contender this year.
One question though – did Ferrari let Alonso past Massa during that thing where Button went off the track? One minute it was Massa -Button-Alonso, then it was Button-Alonso-Massa.
Icthyes (@icthyes)
27th March 2011, 8:41
Yes they did they reasoned Button would have to let them both through, in the end Button got his penalty so it all worked out for Alonso. Team orders already, eh.
robbiepblake (@driftin)
27th March 2011, 8:45
Dang.
DannyJ
27th March 2011, 8:51
Another example of Alonso’s rubbish overtaking skills. Ferrari are fine tacticians (and sometimes fine cheats) but whilst Massa is prepared to fall on his sword for the Prancing Ponies, Alonso will continue to get results he doesn’t deserve.
DanThorn
27th March 2011, 9:28
What rubbish overtaking skills? He passed Kobayashi round the outside of Turn 11, just like Hamilton did the year before, nailed Rosberg off camera and then passed Massa.
I could also mention plenty of other occasions where Alonso has proven himself a more than adequate overtaker, but something tells me you wouldn’t bother listening…
Adam Tate (@adam-tate)
27th March 2011, 9:56
Though I think he has fine overtaking skills, I agree with your post whole heartedly Danny.
TommyB (@tommyb89)
27th March 2011, 10:59
The move on Massa was a genuine move. I don’t think Massa was told to move out of the way, he just put up a poor fight.
Anyway, I think Massa was shockingly bad today. If he hadn’t passed Buemi today he would have found himself by 3 Ferrari engined mid-fielders.
Mack41 (@mack41)
27th March 2011, 15:16
Massa had a terrible race. If Alonso has such rubbish overtaking skills then how did he win 2 World Championships? He had several overtakes today. Why is it so hard for some people to respect the drivers; no need to like them but to claim a 2 time world champion F1 driver has “rubbish overtaking skills” is asinine. If your a Massa fan face the fact he raced like crap today and move on
Dougie (@f1droid)
27th March 2011, 19:44
Rubbish overtaking skills!?!
Are we talking about the same guy that took Schumacher around the outside of 130R?
socalf1fan (@socalf1fan)
27th March 2011, 23:46
@Tommy : I don’t know, Massa was pretty damn good at defending against Button at least
Joey-Poey (@joey-poey)
28th March 2011, 6:50
You say that like it means something when Alonso does it. You have me confused.
IceMan
30th March 2011, 11:30
I don’t see any cheating here. Clever thinking by Ferrari. :)
vlasovas
2nd April 2011, 3:51
I agree, alonso started the year, equal to 2010, taking advantage of others. Massa was much better
Himmat S.
27th March 2011, 8:48
Yep. First race and Massa’s the dog already. Pity him :(
SabatFormulaOne (@sabatformulaone)
27th March 2011, 17:20
Massa is simply a second driver , as Barrichello , Irvine and others in the past !
Gambit
27th March 2011, 21:22
In retrospect, it sucked. Because:
-drivers being disqualified and more to come
-KERS is pointless
-DRS is pointless, what you think helped overtaking was actually drafting
-Pirelli degradation was overstated (1 stop for Perez)
-FIA continues to be biased
Mack41 (@mack41)
28th March 2011, 18:38
1) They broke the rules. It sucks, and I’m a Sauber fan, but can’t do anything about it
2)KERS, in its current form, is pointless and really only helps when coupled with the DRS. When it is made more powerful it will make a bigger difference
3)DRS aided the draft giving drivers a better draft. It wasn’t an automatic overtake, thank god, and did its job. Perhaps an added 50 meters or so would be ideal
4)When 1 driver makes 1 stop it is as advertised. Don’t take anything more away from Perez; what he did was special.
5)If that is about Button’s pass on Massa that was a good call. Button made a stupid move by completely cutting the corner and not giving the position back. Sure, he may have been ahead by a bit, but Massa had the better line. Either way, it was obvious a penalty was going to be called so Button could have saved himself a lot of trouble by handing the position back right away. Seemed he was growing impatient behind Massa.
Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn)
27th March 2011, 8:50
I dont think they did – Alonso and Massa looked like they were fighting each other, not letting each other though…I dont think there would have been enough time between Button cutting the corner to pass and Alonso getting past Massa to have discussed it fully.
choiMatthew (@choimatthew)
27th March 2011, 8:53
Massa slowed down significantly in the next 3 corners before they reached the pit entrance, and Alonso passed Massa in some weird positions – it does seem like Massa has let Alonso pass deliberately
Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn)
27th March 2011, 8:58
It looked to me as if Massa defended up the inside in to turn 13, Alonso switched back up the inside and nailed him in to the next corner. What’s so strange about that? Massa had no pace anyway…
There may have been an element of not fighting as hard because it’s your team mate, but actively letting him through? I really don’t think so.
Scribe (@scribe)
27th March 2011, 11:46
Ferrari have proven, repeatedly, since the end of the Schumacher era, that while they won’t hesitaite to use team orders late in the season, they wait untill they’ve got a clear leader within their team, for the year.
Raikkonen 07
Massa 08
Alonso 10
So at this stage of the season, you can assume that it’s genuine fighting. Just as Massa keeping Alonso behind last season at Aus, wasn’t exactly team orders.
Himmat S.
27th March 2011, 8:55
It common snese to Massa I guess. See a Ferrari in your rear-view mirror and immediately let him thorough. That sort of thing.
Julian (@julian)
27th March 2011, 9:08
Im sure that if someone from ferrari told massa to let alonso through we would have heard a radio transmission just like at Germany last year.
Because i haven’t, I’m inclined to think that Alonso had the run on massa who didnt put up a fight
infy (@infy)
27th March 2011, 9:41
Thats rubbish Icthyes. FOM would have put that on air for sure if it was true.
BasCB (@bascb)
27th March 2011, 8:50
To me it looked like Massa slowed enought to let him by and get past Button there. Would be suprised if that was not planned by Ferrari to get Alonso or both past Button.
BBT (@bbt)
27th March 2011, 9:02
Yeap, a clever switch by Ferrari as Button had to then let both through.
I guess Massa knows he place this year, not even quarter of the 1st race gone and has to let Alonso through… how very sad (and sad he was soooo slow)
choiMatthew (@choimatthew)
27th March 2011, 8:50
That’s when I’ve lost all respect to Ferrari – what happened last year in Hockenheim was unsporty, but this is just pure lack of sportsmanship
James_mc (@james_mc)
27th March 2011, 8:53
I though it was brilliant strategy! Button really only has himself to blame, if he was going to relinquish his place he would have done so immediately rather than scampering off
robbiepblake (@driftin)
27th March 2011, 8:59
It wasn’t that simple though. He had TWO Ferraris right behind him very closely. If he’d let one go do you really think the other would say ‘okay, I’ll stay where I was so it’s back to normal’? No.
James_mc (@james_mc)
27th March 2011, 9:03
Ah no, but as soon as he cut the kerb he pulled away from Massa. If he had had any intention of returning his place he would have slowed down immediately (see Hamilton in Spa 2008 for example), and then by the time it was clear he’d cut the corner it was too late for him.
Todfod (@todfod)
27th March 2011, 9:33
Yep.. it wasn’t that simple.. but then again why did he have cut a corner in the 1st place? Its not like he was squeezed off track. I honestly think it was just a brain fade moment from Button or maybe someone forgot to tell Button that Bernie’s shortcut WASN’T implemented.
Julian (@julian)
27th March 2011, 9:01
exactly my thoughts.
It was an illegal overtake, all he needed to do was give the position back and it never would have happened.
BBT (@bbt)
27th March 2011, 9:04
but he couldn’t without losing to place as Alonso was behind him by the time he could let Massa back past
Mr draw
27th March 2011, 9:07
Button tried to give his position back, but Massa was even slower…
Julian (@julian)
27th March 2011, 9:23
losing 2 places is better then getting a drive through is it not?
choiMatthew (@choimatthew)
27th March 2011, 16:14
massa was significantly slower in the subsequent 2 corners, with alonso side-by-side with him
bosyber (@bosyber)
27th March 2011, 9:13
I disliked it in one way, but I also thought it was really cleverly done by Ferrari as it seemed clear Button would have to let Massa past – Ferrari learned from last years mistakes doing that; they made sure Button had to at least let them both through; then they forced it into a drive through, got Alonso on softs to make sure he was ahead of Button afterwards. Good thinking really.
I think it is just as last year: just let the guy take his place again as soon as possible, that’s the best way if you went off track during overtaking someone.
bosyber (@bosyber)
27th March 2011, 9:14
make that “soon as possible” -> immediately
Julian (@julian)
27th March 2011, 9:26
Yes. Like Hamilton did in Spa 08?? or whenever it was. Just don’t take the position back straight after again. :P
Fixy (@)
27th March 2011, 9:11
The race wasn’t so exciting as the commentators made it seem, because every time a car was on the start/finish straight they were shouting around telling the driver would have used the DRS, but in the end only a few did so.
Martin
27th March 2011, 12:56
No. Alonso fought with Massa for a few corners and eventually passed him.
Nick
28th March 2011, 10:58
lolol it took me 3 seconds while watching to figure it was instant team orders – Alonso was staying well behind the the two fighting for a long long time – he had the pace in him all along! 2ndly massa had a clean exit out of 12, nothing to hold him down / make him drop back to alonso – but alonso was passed him by 14 – instant team order IMO “let alonso thru to have both our cars passed button” the probable message passed out to him – button gets away, pit them both – button gets drive thru.
nice, cheap yet in-the-rules tactic. I guess this is exactly why we love ferrari without realising it – same thing with Schumacher over all those years
Robbie (@robbie)
28th March 2011, 15:00
I think that if you go by FM’s outrage last year, his utter insistance that he is ‘no Reubens’ at Ferrari, insisting he was not going to play second fiddle to FA, then I think that if there was actually a team order yesterday FM would be making sure everybody knew it…instead, no such comment from FM…
I think all that went on is that FM’s tires were hurting, FA was faster at the time, end of story…my proof? Only that if it was otherwise, FM would have let us know by now…especially when everybody will be looking for exactly that very thing, especially after how last year unfolded…
Let’s face the facts…there’s no way Ferrari is behaving like they did in the MS era…FM does have a fair shot this year, just as he did last year…the only thing he is suffering from is that he has one of the best as a teammate…he said enough last year to make it clear that he was no Reubens, there is no contract for him to be subservient from race 1 of the season, and that he would rather not race for the team if that was the direction they wanted to go…
Don’t get me wrong…I despise the FIA and Ferrari for their massive multi-season skewing toward MS during that chapter, but I also agree with Scribe above that since MS, Ferrari has treated their drivers equally…
Again…if they weren’t doing that now, FM would tell us…
Robbie (@robbie)
28th March 2011, 15:05
I also agree that had there been a team order over the radio the FIA would have made sure we heard it, just like they did last year with Ferrari’s nudge nudge wink wink comment to FM to say FA is coming up on you and is faster, hint hint…
This year team orders are legal, and yet there is no evidence that that is what went on at Ferrari yesterday.
FullSpe3d (@dryyoshi)
27th March 2011, 8:38
7. It was pretty interesting. Great to see Petrov hold onto 3rd and we can’t really be disappointed by the DRS, I wasn’t too optimistic about it in the first place.
Scribe (@scribe)
27th March 2011, 11:48
Not the best track, or position for it I don’t think. There’ll be better oppourtunities.
damonsmedley (@damonsmedley)
30th March 2011, 0:49
I finally got around to voting and, like DryYoshi, gave it a 7.
Steph
27th March 2011, 8:38
8/10. Not quite as good as 09 or 05 but strategy variation, couple of penalties, overtaking and the young rookies showing some good form. Great start for the season
BasCB (@bascb)
27th March 2011, 8:51
And a very exiting few laps of Massa defending from Button right at the start.
But on the downside Massa did slow down immediately to let Alonso past right after Button got off track.
Steph
27th March 2011, 9:00
I doubt Massa let Alonso through. They looked like they were fighting pretty hard against each other just before that and there’s no way Ferrari would have had time for team orders as it was all over so quickly plus Ferrari let their drivers fight for the title early in the season and when one establishes a clear challenge then they back that driver and this was only the first race of the season.
James_mc (@james_mc)
27th March 2011, 9:04
I agree, I think Massa got a poor drive out of the corner after fighting with Button and Alonso capitalised. Alonso then pulled away from Massa fairly quickly too so was obviously faster.
Stefanauss (@stefanauss)
27th March 2011, 9:08
Absolutely, it was just Alonso being really sharp. Massa carried poor speed because of Button and there’s nothing he could not.
It’s no Hockenheim.
bosyber (@bosyber)
27th March 2011, 9:15
It looked like Massa wasn’t prepared to just let Alonso by, but in the end he was close to pit anyway, so no point in holding them both up, I suppose.
BasCB (@bascb)
27th March 2011, 9:23
Not sure about letting through, but Massa would have been told not to bother too much as they were getting him in to pit soon anyway.
Why would the team want him to defend position if he was clearly slower than Alonso there.
joac21 (@joac21)
28th March 2011, 2:12
massa was just dealing with the button situation and had no time to recompose himself, he didnt let him thru.. plus alonso was very good
Ads21 (@ads21)
27th March 2011, 8:57
I voted 9 out of ten, lots of overtaking was good, Alonso’s drive through the field was super mega, some welcome strategy variation shaking things up and a few surprises in the points. Also thought the DRS worked well, yes a bit artificial but I thought the balance was just about right.
The race lacked a battle at the front though, but still on the whole I absolutely loved the race, every race should be in Melbourne.
BasCB (@bascb)
27th March 2011, 10:53
I must admit it was really nice to see Alonso fight it out on track. Shame he had to fight his own car a that much though.
But I suspect that in Malaysia they will be a lot closer to the pace. At least until it rains.
F1Yankee (@f1yankee)
27th March 2011, 8:39
8 from me. needed a fight for 1st
sato113
27th March 2011, 14:06
we almost did! but Vettel pitted as soon as Hamilton came up behind them.
Icthyes (@icthyes)
27th March 2011, 8:39
8/10 Not a classic but a good opener, nice action, tyre rules definitely get a thumbs-up from me, major fail on the DRS Zone location though. Hopefully no penalty for Hamilton, it was clearly damage not illegally low ride-height.
joac21 (@joac21)
28th March 2011, 2:15
i think if DRS have been placed before turn 11 would created better racing
Martin Rasmussen (@floptickle)
27th March 2011, 8:39
9/10
Would have been 10/10 if McLaren won.
FullSpe3d (@dryyoshi)
27th March 2011, 9:39
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infy (@infy)
27th March 2011, 9:45
Impossible.
Mark Hitchcock
27th March 2011, 10:54
Some people will find a race more exciting if their chosen team or driver is holding onto a lead throughout. There’s no getting past that.
It’s not like Floptickle was going to vote 10 if Mclaren won but instead voted 1. He voted 9 because the only reason it wasn’t perfect was because his team didn’t win. Seems pretty fair to me!
Ads21 (@ads21)
27th March 2011, 10:10
Seriously, don’t vote if you’re going to vote like that. Its supposed to be a way of rating a race’s entertainment value to a neutral not about whether or not your favourite team/driver won
Scribe (@scribe)
27th March 2011, 11:52
Weaaal, yes and no Ads21. It’s about whether you enjoyed it or not, and what you thought of the race. If your a team fanatic then obviously your team winning increases your enjoyment.
I gave the race a 7. I’d probably have kept it at 7 if McLaren had won, unless there was a battle for 1st, but it’s impossible to stay neutral unless you are neutral to everyone’s fortunes. An that’s just not the case for a lot of sports fans.
Ads21 (@ads21)
28th March 2011, 1:34
Yer but I try to never voted on the basis of how I felt personally about the race, I mean I gave Brazil ’08 and Spa ’10 10/10 and 9/10 despite the fact I was really unhappy at the outcomes of the races.
electrolite (@electrolite)
27th March 2011, 16:55
This is actually fine. I’d just word it differently to avoid all the criticism you’re getting – like ‘for me personally I would have enjoyed it more so it would have been a 10.’ Which is fair enough.
NW
27th March 2011, 8:40
Will give it a ten when LH gets a dsq
Master firelee (@master-firelee)
27th March 2011, 9:22
I hope they dont but only because of my predictions.
TommyB (@tommyb89)
27th March 2011, 8:42
7/10
Not a crazy race but rarely a moment where nothing was happening. A few passes (even one from Vettel!) and two great performances from Petrov and Perez.
Stefanauss (@stefanauss)
27th March 2011, 8:47
Perfect, i share the same views.
I’ll add great television footage from the helicopter.
fullthrottle
27th March 2011, 15:17
An illegal one, he went off track.
David-A (@david-a)
27th March 2011, 15:33
He kept two wheels on the track, so it was legal, and counts as him being on the track.
Bebilou (@bebilou)
27th March 2011, 8:43
2/10: a very confusing “race” of pitstops and videogames-style gimmicks. I just hate it.
Ben Curly (@ben-curly)
27th March 2011, 9:06
What? It had a pretty regular number of pit stops and the gimmicks didn’t work that well, actually.
I rated it 6/10. There were some surprises and a couple of exciting moments, but it was a fairly boring race, as far as Australian GP’s go. Overtaking was still minimal, the effects of DRS almost negligible and KERS used primarily for defence. It does not bode well for the rest of the season.
electrolite (@electrolite)
27th March 2011, 8:44
I think 7/10 is fair. It had it’s moments, and some popular and surprising results.
Scribe (@scribe)
27th March 2011, 11:54
Yeah, I agree and voted simular. Not bad for an opener, not a classic that’ll be remembered for long, some good drives, some good action, podium farly nailed on from the first lap and the result never in doubt.
Julian (@julian)
27th March 2011, 8:44
i think a few people forgot to read that bit..
im thinking 8, would do 7.5 if i could :P
snmt29 (@)
27th March 2011, 8:44
wasted for hamilton :(
BasCB (@bascb)
27th March 2011, 8:48
I’ve given it an 8/10. First race of the year. Nice battle between Button and several cars. Exiting running between others as well.
Rubens had a bit of a mind drain, I bet he nailed Rosbergs exhausts there.
bosyber (@bosyber)
27th March 2011, 9:21
exactly my thoughts; I hope at some point in the season we will see someone battle with Vettel for the lead, but it was pretty entertaining, and I’m happy that the DRS doesn’t make overtaking too easy, but does seem to help a bit. Loved Perez being able to only do two stints, seeing Petrov keeping it cool. At about third way through, I would have liked to see more of what happened in the midfield, but that is a problem with the camera’s not the race itself.
BasCB (@bascb)
27th March 2011, 9:30
And the FOM footage was pretty good with capturing the moments, suprisingly.
a4p (@a4p)
27th March 2011, 8:48
A little boring in the front spots, but Alonso, Massa and Button were fun to watch… I think that ‘8’ is well deserved for this race.
Alec
27th March 2011, 8:49
Boring.
SPIDERmaN (@spiderman)
27th March 2011, 8:50
HORNER confirms both redbulls had no kers…he says they removed it from the cars on friday..
matty55 (@matty55)
27th March 2011, 8:50
A solid 7. Not a cracker but plenty of interesting elements to the race!
HounslowBusGarage (@hounslowbusgarage)
27th March 2011, 8:51
I thought six out of ten as there were a couple of points where I even considered turning off.
But, Petrov and Perez really impressed. Great start to their seasons.
hey (@hey)
27th March 2011, 8:55
6/10. A very good base for the year, but nothing above the average really. Obviously 8/10 just by virtue of being the first race, but I have to judge it fairly with other races.
Klaas
27th March 2011, 8:55
6/10 The winner was sooooo predictable… Webber seems like he’s driving a totally different car. Ferrari continued where they left from Abu Dhabi, again messing up the strategy. Hamilton as usual magnificent pushing the car’s potential beyond it’s limits. Button was his mediocre-self again. Massa – a total failure, useless, loser etc. I don’t think Ferrari will have enough patience and wait till the seasons’s end to kick him out. Next year I bet we’ll see Perez along with Alonso at Ferrari.
pking008
27th March 2011, 10:05
I’ll tell you something…Redbull are faster than they look. They have loads of speed to spare and would call on it whenever needed to always stay in front. Webbers car is being deliberately slowed down by the team so that we dont start screaming “Redbull Lock-out” from the word go this year. Mark my words
Santi
27th March 2011, 10:53
What do you mean that Ferrari messed the strategy? I think it was pretty brilliant. Remember they got Webber in that way…
Patrickl (@patrickl)
27th March 2011, 15:33
They “got Webber” because Red Bull messed up Webber’s pitstop and because Webber didn’t have KERS to get past Alonso again.
David-A (@david-a)
27th March 2011, 15:49
Massa slipped behind both Saubers (and Buemi) with the late pitstop, instead of simply grappling with Perez. Which would have been bad if not for the Saubers being DQed.
James_mc (@james_mc)
27th March 2011, 8:56
I was very disappointed that FOM clearly withheld footage of Alonso overtaking at the start, and the 10th/11th/12th battle and are going to use it in their end of season DVD to the detriment of their live broadcasts.
bosyber (@bosyber)
27th March 2011, 9:23
Heh, I also missed seeing those, I think we can only hope they at least do put them on the DVD.
James_mc (@james_mc)
27th March 2011, 9:33
Noooo!!!!!
If we buy the DVD it upholds FOM’s policy of denying the best bits on the day!
Cacarella
27th March 2011, 17:20
Just download it illegally.
FOM already has enough of our money!
kartguy07
27th March 2011, 8:57
An OK race without really being stand-out. DRS has failed its first test – it would have been disappointing to see Button able to just drive past Massa easily with DRS, but it didn’t happen, presumably the Ferrari KERS is currently better than the McLaren KERS. As such DRS looks like it might be the white elephant we feared.
That having been said, it’s not a long straight and the cars need to be going in a straight line before it’s deployed, more so than with KERS.
kartguy07
27th March 2011, 9:07
6/10, by the way
Icthyes (@icthyes)
27th March 2011, 8:58
Button is saying Ferrari pitted Massa so he couldn’t give the position back. To be fair he had a whole lap, but it would have interfered with his strategy to pit and let him by.
James_mc (@james_mc)
27th March 2011, 9:06
I think he was avoiding saying what he really thought which was “Massa let Alonso through so I would have had to yield two places”
Santi
27th March 2011, 10:55
Button totally messed up here. He can complain as much as we wants.
BasCB (@bascb)
27th March 2011, 10:56
They did both things.
Get Alonso there to profit in cas Button let Massa back past and then pitting Massa to make sure Button would get penalized. Massa was a lot slower there though, so it would make sense to let Alonso by anyway.
Patrickl (@patrickl)
27th March 2011, 15:37
Alonso pitted first, so Button could have understood that Massa was about to pit too. He still had a full lap to give the position back.
He just was (wrongly) convinced that he was ahead before the corner.
jagolevert (@jagolevert)
27th March 2011, 9:00
7/10, not a stunning race but I enjoyed it in terms of results with Vettel on top and Petrov with his first podium! I regret not putting him in my top 5 and I’m glad I decided against putting Rosberg in!
Scalextric (@scalextric)
27th March 2011, 9:00
8. Button/Massa was fun. Petrov and Perez were surprises. HAM was closer to VET than expected but never really threatened consistently. Tire strategies varied nicely. DRS and KERS provided more even variety. HD coverage made everything a bit better. Mercedes really suffered and Ferrari underperformed compared with pre-season expectations so that added to the drama. Obviously if Bernie had added some fake rain it would be a 10. Not.
Eggry (@eggry)
27th March 2011, 9:01
No battle for win is major minus.
Patrickl (@patrickl)
27th March 2011, 15:38
The first pitstop period was sort of a battle for P1. Hamilton tried to go longer to pass Vettel, but it didn’t really work out since these tyres just slow you down the longer you drive on them.
Toro Stevo (@toro-stevo)
27th March 2011, 9:04
6.
Assuming no mechanical problems (I don’t think there were any) Webber was woeful. He’ll have to do some serious time in the simulator, or he could become the Red Bull Massa. He was shredding those tyres to pieces.
I give whoever was controlling the TV footage a 3 though. Looking at the driver times there was a little bit of overtaking happening – but you wouldn’t know it if you watched the coverage.
jagolevert (@jagolevert)
27th March 2011, 9:11
I agree with that, Webber needs to seriously step up. Red Bull are a much fairer team to their drivers than Ferrari but he’ll be in trouble if he can’t match Vettels performance.
And did you see the Alonso overtake on Petrov then Petrov coming back at him? The coverage didn’t show it but the driver times at the bottom did. (Assuming you were also watching BBC footage)
Toro Stevo (@toro-stevo)
27th March 2011, 14:13
I’m never sure if its the BBC controlling the footage, or the F1 association. But we do get the BBC feed in Australia, but interrupted by ads so I might miss things that happen in the ad breaks.
I’d gladly pay Channel 10 to have a race feed uninterrupted, but I don’t see that happening.
Darren
27th March 2011, 9:04
I give it 6/10, Petrov was driver of the race followed closely by Perez the one-stop wonder!
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
27th March 2011, 9:06
7/10 for me. The race was interesting enough and I have a feeling that level of interest could carry on into the rest of the season. I would have liked more from the DRS but I appreciate the straight at Albert Park is not very long at all leading into a brake-heavy corner, not ideal circumstances. The real exciting stuff for me was Sauber, especially Perez and Petrov of course.
BBT (@bbt)
27th March 2011, 9:07
7. from me, a good start to the season
Paul
27th March 2011, 9:08
Boring!
verstappen (@verstappen)
27th March 2011, 9:09
8 for me. A lot of action, quite a bit of overtaking, but none too many because of the DRS/FFW.
And Pirelli’s with between 1 and 3 stops… Wow!
Renny Johns
27th March 2011, 9:10
5 bit dull
ThatStupidGuy (@)
27th March 2011, 9:10
Solid 7. No fight for first place really, but good to see some more overtaking and to see Petrov bringing Renault back on the podium was great.
I do hope that Vettel won’t storm away with the title so soon already.
dutch in sweden (@dutch-in-sweden)
27th March 2011, 9:13
Good first race and at the right time for McLaren otherwise they whould have been 25 points extra down on Vettel. I think this race shows we have a lot of good coming to us this year.
Kingshark (@kingshark)
27th March 2011, 9:13
7. It was a good race in general with plenty of overtaking, the fist part was very entartaining, the 2nd part was rather average, although intresting. Most Australian Gp’s are like this one with a score of 7-8.
I’d rate it as the best race since Belgium last year (better than Korea).
PieLighter (@pielighter)
27th March 2011, 9:13
8. Good race for Petrov, not impressed with Button’s performance considering his last 2 Aussie GPs but that drive thru hurt him badly.
Looks like the flippy flappy wing is serving it’s purpose – making overtaking easier without actually guaranteeing one.
Bit puzzled by the logic with Rubens’s drive thru – he took Rosberg out after a manoeuvre that went wrong. Surely that discourages drivers from overtaking, because they’ll get a drive thru if they get it wrong and harpoon the other car?
Vettel did the same to Button in Spa, but he didn’t get a drive thru! That manoeuvre ended in Button’s retirement, so it’s the same. Inconsistent punishments as usual from the FIA stewards.
robbiepblake (@driftin)
27th March 2011, 9:16
Vettel did get a drive through for that Spa incident.
PieLighter (@pielighter)
27th March 2011, 10:08
There goes my terrible memory again. :P
BasCB (@bascb)
27th March 2011, 10:58
Funny thing is, after the race he said he was not even trying to overtake Rosberg there. Just got the braking point wrong because of being on different tyres while defending from Kobayashi!
This is from the most experienced F1 racer ever! A bit of a suprise really.
robbiepblake (@driftin)
27th March 2011, 9:14
Another thing to say – Heidfeld and Barrichello, just what were you doing?
I’m particularly pointing my finger at Heidfeld, an experienced guy in a potential race winning car getting destroyed by someone in his second season. I think Renault will be looking elsewhere soon, possibly groveling at Kimi’s feet.
bosyber (@bosyber)
27th March 2011, 9:28
Or they could give Senna a go, he wasn’t that far behind where Heidfeld finished in the last year (when he finished) in a notably worse car :)
BasCB (@bascb)
27th March 2011, 10:59
Wouldn’t be suprised to see Bruno given a drive in FP1 next time round at least to put up the pressure on Nick.
sebsronnie (@sebsronnie)
27th March 2011, 9:15
Am I the only one who thinks Petrov has matured/improved greatly since Abu Dhabi and that even if Kubica was around, he wouldn’t have it all his way?
Trenthamfolk (@)
27th March 2011, 9:32
I agree totally… Petrov was written off by so many people last season, mainly racing snobs, and I’m pleased to see him excel. Renault stuck one to Ferrari today, that’s for sure.
Paul
27th March 2011, 9:15
The best of the race was guy driving so slow as to be able to finish 7th stopping just once.
I think the next time I will wake up even earlier to see things like these.
Stefanauss (@stefanauss)
27th March 2011, 9:29
Perez wasn’t slow at all. 10 laps to go he still pretty much matched laptimes from the guys in front/behind of him who where on fresher tires.
sid_prasher (@)
27th March 2011, 9:16
A 7 for me.
The scrap between Button and Massa was good…
I dont think he gave up his place to Alonso, Alonso at that time was much faster than both Massa and Button – it made sense not to impede each other in such a situation.
Tim
27th March 2011, 9:20
Not at all bad. There was decent close racing, a fair number of stops and a few mistakes. There was nothing sensational and it was basically a lights to flag victory.
A good platform for the future as the teams game out ways to be more aggressive on tyres.
hansguenther (@hansguenther)
27th March 2011, 9:23
Barrichello was reckless, too bad we couldn’t see the full potential of the Mercedes. Didn’t look like they were going anywhere but Schumacher had a good start and Rosberg was doing well which his tires even though he fell back.
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys)
27th March 2011, 9:27
Not the super-exciting race that we were all hoping for, but with so many strategies going on, it was really a prologue of things to come.
Muffin (@)
27th March 2011, 9:44
That is the problem, to talk ONLY about strategy we do not need a race, chess would be enough.
For me the race was really boring. Not worthy to wake up so early for this.
JohnTheMan96
27th March 2011, 22:46
We had plenty of overtaking too, probably more than the entire 10 years at catalunya combined :P
JohnTheMan96
27th March 2011, 22:48
It wasn’t alll about strategy, we had penty of overtaking and close battles(Button vs Massa or Barrichello’s madness)
Scary Terry (@hatebreeder)
27th March 2011, 9:32
so DRS was only to be used on teh start finish straight? did anyone else find tat a bit disappointing? i mean, mostly because it isnt tat long a straight, n again kers balances watever DRS the guy behind uses. I thought DRS could be used anywhere on the track as long as the guy behind is within 1 sec of the guy ahead. Would’ve been a lot more fun if DRS was allowed all over the track.
Daniel
27th March 2011, 9:40
Glad to see Petrov on the podium. Also, I’m happy that Alonso didn’t overtake Petrov. It’s a pity that Renault has one driver now (I think Heidfeldt cannot be counted); imagine what would have been with both Petrov and Kubica.
Sorry for Rosberg; he is a good driver too but has a second hand car. With RedBull, McLaren, Ferrari, Renault, Sauber and potentially Williams ahead of Mercedes, it’ll be worse than in 2010 (they won’t finish on the 4th place). When Ross Brawn said that Mercedes will surprise this year, perhaps he thought Mercedes would fight with Virgin or HRT. They should go home or play in GP2.
robbiepblake (@driftin)
27th March 2011, 9:46
“When Ross Brawn said that Mercedes will surprise this year, perhaps he thought Mercedes would fight with Virgin or HRT. They should go home or play in GP2.”
I’m sorry but that’s a hugely unfair comment. Schumacher had a technical problem with the car and Rosberg was shunted off the track. Don’t write the team off after just one race. I’m willing to bet that one of them is going to win a race this year.
AndresM (@andresm)
27th March 2011, 9:46
7/10 I think it was a good race. It was a pity that HAM didn’t gave VET “the race of his lifetime”
Renault is the surprise of the year. I wonder how long it will take to see more teams using the front exhausts. A real pity no to have Kubica on the race.
Perez first race has been great.
Ferrari not too bad compared with yesterday disaster. I hope the situation improves in Malaysia.
Big disappointments, Mercedes, Barrichello and above all Heifeld
david smith
27th March 2011, 9:47
Best thing about the race was NO Jonathan Legard
Brundle and Coulthard was a refreshing change!
mags (@mags)
27th March 2011, 10:33
Just about to post the very same thing!
Toro Stevo (@toro-stevo)
27th March 2011, 11:28
Better, but I’m not prepared to say good yet.
And to be fair, if Legard was there and making some of the clangers Brundle did we’d be all over him. Maybe it’s just a lot harder than we thought.
KeeleyObsessed (@keeleyobsessed)
27th March 2011, 9:50
6/10.. A good race with lots of strategy, from Ferrari’s car switching to Perez’s 1 stop (how did he do that?). Downsides were a lack of top teams fighting it out, there really should have been 5 teams fighting it out, instead it was a battle between Mclaren and Ferrari
Oh, and the early wake ups! I’m sure if I watched the race in the afternoon I’d enjoy it more!!
matt88 (@matt88)
27th March 2011, 9:50
8/10.
If every race is like this, it’s going to be a very good championship.
We had lots of battles (esp MAS vs BUT vs ALO), the DRS was helpful but didn’t make life too much easier for overtakers, Pirellis proved to last longer than expected and gave to the teams a broader set of pit strategies (1-2-3 stops in the top 10).
Muffin (@)
27th March 2011, 9:51
And by the way I don`t like the no refueling rule, a car finishing 7th stopping just once?
What would be the next? Safety car finishing 6th with a non-stop strategy?
I expected something more.
Younger Hamii(Formally Younger Hamilton)
27th March 2011, 9:52
Not the Best of Races in Melbourne but it was alright,BUT the DRS and KERS Did little to spice up the action and battles we had today.I dont have an Account so i cant vote but i’d give this race a 6/7 im afraid
xtophe (@xtophe)
27th March 2011, 9:57
7/10
I’m glad the Pirellis seem to open up more strategic possibilities, although I’m unsure how long it’ll take for teams to figure out what the magic number is.
Pingguest
27th March 2011, 9:57
A bit dull. Very much comparable with a race with refuelling: most was decided in the pit lane.
maateos (@maateos)
27th March 2011, 10:07
Great performance for Petrov!, nice to see Perez on his debut scoring points.
Big plus for Mclaren and minus for poor Ferrari and Mercedes!
Maciek (@maciek)
27th March 2011, 10:11
8/10 – I thought it was a fine first race. Don’t really get all the comments of boring, unless people were expecting the race of the decade and didn’t get it. Bonehead maneuver by Barrichello – he guaranteed that the weekend was a write-off both for Williams and Mercedes. Very nice stuff from Perez. We’ll have to wait for the lap times breakdown, but he seemed able to preserve his tires even while challenging for position. Bad stuff from Button for not giving the place back right away and McLaren for not telling him too, it was all too obvious he’d be penalized. Petrov’s obviously calmed down, bravo to him. Looks like a fun season ahead : )
BasCB (@bascb)
27th March 2011, 11:04
Rubens claimed he was not even trying to overtake Rosberg there, just defending from Kobayashi behind and misjudged where Rosberg had to brake! Hm, after 300+ GPs?
Perez even managed a FLAP at lap 40 on those sofst with 17 laps ran on them. Very good running indeed.
A good and exting race with a lot of promise for the season. Shame Seb is that far ahead though.
KaIIe (@kaiie)
27th March 2011, 10:16
7/10 definitely. It had some great racing, but at times there wasn’t much going on. Also, when the top four can barely fit in the same picture on the S/F straight after three laps it isn’t the most interesting race.
Minus for the TV director. How did Alonso pass Rosberg at the beginning of the race? What caused those few yellow flags? Glock spent 10 minutes in the pits, we couldn’t get a single 10s shot of that?
butterdori (@butterdori)
27th March 2011, 10:57
Yes, a suicide joke on a guy who’s in the hospital, who can’t properly walk.
Fantastically funny. Absolutely spiffing. Not at all disgusting.
butterdori (@butterdori)
27th March 2011, 11:01
Oh, I see that the comment is removed
Must have posted it as it was being removed. Nevermind the above.
butterdori (@butterdori)
27th March 2011, 11:00
9/10
There was always something to see.
Muffin (@)
27th March 2011, 11:14
You mean in a different TV channel, don´t you?
Cause the race was as boring as bad the tv emission/realization was (always showing the most exciting of the race).
somerandomguy
27th March 2011, 11:21
Wow exact replay of Abu Dhabi. Alonso copies Webber and they both get stuck behind Petrov. Anyway as it was my first race I really loved it but disappointed Webber didnt get a good result… again.
Muffin (@)
27th March 2011, 11:37
Did you watch the same race than everybody else?
Alonso stuck behind Petrov? He was 10 sec behind Petrov with just 9 laps to end.
somerandomguy
27th March 2011, 12:09
i know but sort of similar. he couldnt catch him
marcello
27th March 2011, 12:00
i give it a 7
good race, didnt set the world on fire, extremely disappointed that the combination of drs, kers and the pirelli tyres didnt increase overtaking and exitement.
driver of the day for me Perez, i still cant quite understand how a rookie can excel in his tyre management on his first race, very impressed with Petrov too. Decision on Button was correct by the stewards and not sure how Hamilton is getting away with his damaged car at the scrutineering. Barrichello had a nighmare weekend as did the mercedes team. Massa was dreadful as usual (apart from a wonderful piece of driving to keep Button behind), Alonso was excellent as usual as was Vettel. Webber left scratching his head.
Boris84 (@)
27th March 2011, 12:40
4\10
axosf1 (@)
27th March 2011, 13:31
7/10
Not a classic but first day back at school. Always some interest down the field.
jayb
27th March 2011, 13:49
5/10 Button said that we would be shocked by how much overtaking there would be. Err, was that it!!! Looks like Vettel will have it in the bag by the Indian grand prix. If not sooner.
Patrickl (@patrickl)
27th March 2011, 15:40
Worse, the “overtaking” that we did see was so ridiculously easy that it shoule be classified as a “drive by” rather than “overtaking”.
I’d say Button vs Massa and then Alonso vs Massa were the only real fights. The rest was just drivers DRS-ing past someone or flying past on fresh tyres going 2 seconds a lap faster.
Jonathan
27th March 2011, 17:47
Vettel vs Button was good.
Ginger (@ginger)
27th March 2011, 14:13
Poor Massa, I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t beat Fernando all year maybe save for Turkey. Shame. This will help him in the WDC as both Lewis & Seb will lose points to their team-mate.
Damon (@damon)
27th March 2011, 17:33
Yeah, it seems like Felipe has lost it. He’s not the driver he used to be.
Jonathan
27th March 2011, 17:48
… or we just seriously overrated Kimi Raikkonen.
wasiF1 (@wasif1)
28th March 2011, 7:14
No Kimi was never overrated.
Tco (@)
27th March 2011, 16:04
With all the hype about DRS and Kers producing excitig racing, what did we get? A procession! We saw perhaps three overtakes on the main straight (the only place they could use DRS) which would have probably happened anyway.
As for Kers, what a total waste of money! And they are trying to REDUCE costs! The whole process of F1 racing is becomg over controlled and suffers for that.
Mads (@mads)
27th March 2011, 16:27
I think it was a very good races. I gave it an 8. The high number of pitstops is clearly a lot better then last year. I also actually i found the DRS fairly entertaining. Especially because it didn’t give many overtakes but it just kept the cars very close so the drivers could keep the battle going lap after lap.
So i didn’t really feel that the overtaking were fake. I just think it kept the race more tense.
I don’t know if i am rating it this high because it is so long ago that i have seen a live F1 race, but i think this season is shaping up to be even better then last year.
And petrov’s performance?! That was godlike! I thought Heidfeld were going to outperform him massively this weekend, but Petrov was just in the zone. No mistakes. Just absolutely brilliant. Though i am gutted that both Saubers were disqualified.
Mark (@marlarkey)
27th March 2011, 16:28
It wasa a pretty dull race… all the changes to improve overtaking and so little overtaking…
They are really going to have consider something significantly more radical like banning wings.
Muffin (@)
27th March 2011, 17:06
Or racing using skateboards.
Many changes for nothing, I enjoyed much more F1 5 0r 6 years ago.
alexf1man
27th March 2011, 17:30
I would rate it but Sauber might appeal. Will rate this once an appeal has (or not if FIA are trying to keep Scuderia Ferrari happy) been considered.
I put Scuderia Ferrari because Sauber are Ferrari-powered; just putting Ferrari would contradict keeping Ferrari completely happy.
PurpleZebra (@purplezebra)
27th March 2011, 19:50
6/10 Not a classic (especially buy melbourne’s high standards) but a decent start to the year to build on.
DRS didn’t really add anything… and that’s a good thing as far as I’m concerned… DRS is a complete joke.
Daniel Chico (@daniel-chico)
27th March 2011, 20:24
Considering all the fears for all that could be wrong, I have found this a very good race.
Tires – Didn’t collapse after very few laps, and the race did not become a pit stop mess.
DRS – A Virgin or a Lotus can’t overtake a Ferrari, as I was afraid… I do not see the DRS as a Mario Kart button, but as a counterbalance for the last years’ impossibility to overtake/stay behind other car. It’s early to say, but I think it’s perfect the way it is.
wasiF1 (@wasif1)
28th March 2011, 7:07
6, not too much happened but some good defensive racing by Massa. I think the DRS has not been the way many may have expected.
Robbie (@robbie)
28th March 2011, 15:17
In general I was glad to see LH relatively close to SV…ie. I don’t think SV is just going to run away with every race…MW should be closer to him most of the time, JB should improve too, as with FA and perhaps FM too…different tracks will treat different cars and drivers differently, so that’s why they run every race to decide a WDC…SV will likely not finish every race…
Given MW’s head-scratching at his lack of pace vs. SV this weekend I would imagine there will be those who will be looking to see if they have designed this new car more with SV in mind, handcuffing MW to do anything about a challenge…they have stated, and everybody knows with his contract extension that SV is their future, but I would hate to see him ‘succeed’ this year on the back of an MW who might potentially be held back with lesser car, a package intentionally lesser suited to him…
PJA (@pja)
28th March 2011, 17:47
7/10 for me, not a classic but it had it’s moments.
karfil (@)
29th March 2011, 14:24
Not a very exciting race, sure miss Kubca alot.
He would have been a challenge for Vettel.
Best part of the race was again Schumi who had to give up :)
Doance (@doance)
9th April 2011, 11:38
what’s the average?
alexf1man (@alexf1man)
13th April 2011, 8:48
Personally, I think 7, because it was pretty good at times but not all the way through. Malaysia was slightly better in my opinion.
alexf1man (@alexf1man)
13th April 2011, 8:48
However it’s not letting me put my vote in :s
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
13th April 2011, 9:03
That’s because the poll is now closed. Here’s the one for the last race:
https://www.racefans.net/2011/04/10/2011-malaysian-grand-prix-rate-race/
Doance (@doance)
16th May 2011, 7:31
6.751 average. I guess it didnt have the shananigans of previous years, but that doesnt make it a bad race. Its still my favourite race ever :). The only F1 race I’ve been to, it was awesome and I’m still smiling today. When youre there it doesnt matter what the race is like. Its all about seeing the cars and the atmosphere!