Bruno Senna to drive in Friday practice

F1 Fanatic round-up

Posted on

| Written by

In today’s round-up: Bruno Senna will drive Nick Heidfeld’s car for the first practice session in Budapest.

Links

Top F1 links from the past 24 hours:

Friday drive for Bruno in Budapest (Lotus Renault GP)

"LRGP is pleased to announce that Bruno Senna will drive the R31 in Friday’s first practice session during the Hungarian Grand Prix next weekend. Bruno, currently an LRGP Third Driver, will have a one-off opportunity to get behind the wheel of the R31, when he drives Nick Heidfeld’s car for the first 90-minute session. Nick will return to the car to drive from FP2 onwards, alongside Vitaly Petrov."

Buemi handed five-place grid penalty for Hungary (Formula1.com)

"Toro Rosso’s Sebastien Buemi has been punished by the German race stewards for his collision with Renault’s Nick Heidfeld during Sunday’s Nurburgring race. Buemi receives a five-place grid penalty for the next round in Hungary."

German Grand Prix from the pit lane (BBC F1)

"BBC Sport’s Lee McKenzie takes you on a tour of the paddock at the Nurburgring after the German Grand Prix and reveals how she manages to get reaction from F1 drivers and team principals during a hectic race weekend."

Karun Chandhok (via Twitter)

"Vertical learning curve today doing more than 10 laps in a row for the first time ! I gained a lot of experience finishing the race distance.

"Big thanks to @tonyfernandes , @riadasmat and everyone @MyTeamLotus for the opportunity!! Learnt a lot that I will carry forward from here."

Formula 1 teams are closing on a deal to revive in-season testing (Autosport)

"Team principals discussed the idea of testing at a meeting of the Formula One Teams’ Association (FOTA) at the Nurbugring on Saturday night, with AUTOSPORT understanding that major progress was made in finding a plan that received support from everyone."

Formula 1 teams set to seek clarification on status of 2014 regulations (Autosport)

"Formula 1 teams are set to seek clarification from the FIA about the status of the 2014 regulations, amid concerns that details of the new rules have not been formally approved by them."

MotoGP track in California keeping an eye on Austin (Statesman.com)

"Gill Campbell, CEO/general manager of Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca, certainly has more than enough to keep her busy at her track, which is currently staging its biggest event of the year, the Red Bull U.S. Grand Prix."

With Some Rich Car Fans, Formula One Could Work (The New York Times)

"Sebastian Vettel of Germany is dominating Formula One again this season, building on his 2010 championship with six wins in nine races. But that’s nothing compared with the underdog triumph that Formula One itself just pulled: getting money from the state of Texas."

4.76m lifetime cost of an F1 car (Daily Star)

"Top spenders each season on cars and parts are Italian legends Ferrari at 307million, then McLaren with 211m and the others not too far ??behind in their slipstream. Here’s a few of the bills that can put a big hole in an F1 team’s funds."

Follow F1 news as it breaks using the F1 Fanatic live Twitter app.

Comment of the day

What did you think of the German Grand Prix? BasCB said:

Honestly I would have rated it just as high, or possibly even higher if Alonso or Webber would have been able to pull a pass on Hamilton in those last 8 laps, its not about who won, but what happened on the way to get there.
BasCB

Read more: Rate the race: 2011 German Grand Prix

From the forum

2011 German Grand Prix Awards

Happy birthday!

Happy birthday to LookingSpiffy and Rdiulv!

On this day in F1

F1 fans reacted angrily as Ferrari used team orders to hand victory in the German Grand Prix to Fernando Alonso one year ago today.

Felipe Massa was given a coded but transparent instruction to let Alonso through on lap 49 of 67 despite having led much of the race up to that point.

Team orders were illegal at the time and over 77% of F1 Fanatic readers believed Ferrari should have been penalised. But aside from a fine which came to a tiny fraction of their annual budget, Ferrari went unpunished. The FIA later repealed the ban on team orders.

The 2010 German Grand Prix is the lowest-rated race on F1 Fanatic since the beginning of the 2008 season.

Author information

Keith Collantine
Lifelong motor sport fan Keith set up RaceFans in 2005 - when it was originally called F1 Fanatic. Having previously worked as a motoring...

Got a potential story, tip or enquiry? Find out more about RaceFans and contact us here.

85 comments on “Bruno Senna to drive in Friday practice”

  1. Bas showing he’s good both at the quality and quantity of posts! Fully agree.

    With all the stuff coming out about Grosjean looking in prime position to replace Kubica if he doesn’t come back, Senna must be a little anxious about his future F1 career. Perhaps Renault planned something like this all along but I find it interesting he’s getting a taster session. It won’t be for comparison’s sake, more of a show of commitment to their young driver.

    1. Yep, I agree with Bas, but the CotD would read better on this page if it mentioned the score he gave the race!

      1. With the top 3 never being more than 10 seconds apart, how can it be anything other than a great race. Even if Webber was 3rd of those 3 :)

      2. Congratulations Bas. A well deserved COTD indeed.

        On Icthyes’ point about Senna, I can’t help but feel (as has always been the case) that there are too many great young drivers with boundless talent that are going to miss their big opportunities. Who knows; Senna could be the next, well, Senna! I can hear you saying “well, he didn’t do too well last year.” I agree. He wasn’t particularly exciting at all, but it’s amazing how many times his car failed him last year. My memory has faded a bit, but I’m pretty sure 90% of his retirements were down to his car failing, and he only finished about 40% of the races he entered. Not only that, who’s to say he’s not the greatest talent in the world in a car that didn’t suit his style?

        I’m just saying, there are so many great rookies, but so few seats to fill, and even when they do get their big break, their true potential doesn’t always shine through.

        1. Sorry to change the subject, but I’m interested to hear your opinions on this; what do you guys think of in-season testing? I’m not sure if I’m the only one that thinks it would be not such a bad idea to bring it back. Not only would it allow new teams to do a bit of catch up, but it would stop all of these stupid technical rows just before the races as any discrepancies could be stamped out before the Grand Prix weekends.

    2. I would all put it down to Boullier understanding what his fellow team boss at BMW knew about Heidfeld. He needs to be constantly pushed to get maximum out of him.

      So now he is using Senna to do exactly that. But who knows, maybe Kubica will run in Friday FP1 in Brazil and Senna will do the race!

      Thanks for the nice words on the COTD!
      It was made in reaction to another one claiming good ratings were to do with a british McLaren driver winning. I gave it a 9/10 for very close racing and the suspense of Vettel proving he really can’t overtake!

      1. Yes, that particular debate is getting pretty old now and thoroughly debunked: when I go through all the British folk I follow on Twitter, only three are active supporters of McLaren.

      2. Well done indeed Bas!

    3. Maybe Senna would replace Jerome huh?

  2. Personally, I think Senna should replace Heidfeld permantly.

    1. It’d be harsh on Heidfeld, saying as he’s done about as well as anyone expected him to (except those crazy people who tipped him for a surprise title when Renault were impressing in the pre season!)

      But, assuming Renault want to evaluate a younger driver- which makes sense given that Kubica still has a question mark over him and Heidfeld is getting grey in his beard- surely Romain Grosjean would be a better choice?

      I read in Autosport that Renault were considering giving him the seat once the GP2 season is over, from Singapore onwards. It’d be a shame to see Heidfeld turfed out mid season, but it’d be a great experience for Grosjean before a possible full time drive in 2012. He still has unfinished business in F1

      1. Grosjean is doing well in GP2 for the same reason that Maldonado did well: He is the experienced driver in a field of rookies. Grojean did not deserve an F1 seat before and he does not deserve one now.

        1. Why didn’t he deserve it before? Why doesn’t he deserve it now? Other than because he’s beating rookies (he isn’t, the next 8 drivers are in at least their 2nd full year, and Grosjean is also in only his 2nd)?

          1. Jean-Eric Vergne would almost certainly be a better choice than Grojean. He is leading a championship that, unlike GP2, is full of strong drivers: Wickens, Korjus, Rossi, and Ricciardo.

            It’s not Grojean’s second year in GP2, it is his fourth.

        2. I would give Grosjean another chance on the basis that he didn’t really get a fair go the first time around.

          1. Didn’t he qualify within 2 or 3 tenths of arguably the best driver in the sport… in a dog of a car? I think he did fairly respectably given the circumstances. Anyone who thinks he should’ve done better probably needs to revise their expectations of any driver entering the sport in this post testing era. Has anyone since the testing ban entered the sport and really truly impressed right off the bat? Kobayashi maybe, but even that would be arguable. Drivers need a little experience to get up to speed.

          2. Alonso thought he did great in a real dog of a car. Isn’t he well qualified to give such an opinion, better than most of us here?

          3. Alonso thought Grosjean did a good job with that dog of a car.

            And you just have to look at how much Chandhok struggles to get to grip with a car after 12 months out of driving, but with previous experience. Imagine getting in with hardly any of that, mid season!

          4. You’ve missed the point.

            My point is he did well, very well – and then was dropped.

          5. You’ve missed my point.

            He did well, very well – and then got dropped.

            Do I believe he is deserving of a spot on the grid? Absolutely.

        3. There are plenty of experienced drivers in GP2 who have completed more races that Grosjean. Luca Filippi, for example. Filippi has completed 101 GP2 races, yet he’s not doing as well as the Frenchman. Grosjean has managed to find himself at the back of the field for several races this season, but has good strategic sense and overtaking ability. I think he would be a good Renault driver if he comes in from the start of the season. Not the end.

      2. That and I don’t think Senna is that quick, he is probably about at the same level as Chandok. And Chandok was well below the performance that Trulli would give. And I tend to rate Heidfeld quite well.

        1. Chandok did fine in qualifying, about the same Trulli would have done. As for his race? Yea, it was bad, but it was his first race in a car that had brakes that were completely different from what he is used to.

          I think Lotus handled Chandok badly. If they were even considering him for a race or two this season, he should have been in every FP1 session, rather than just a handful.

          1. Agreed. This was the first time he’d done more than 10 laps at a time in the car. As I said above, drivers need some experience. Will Buxton wrote a great blog last week about a potential solution for both the in season testing and young driver experience building.

      3. The only reason for not having Grosjean in the car during FP1 is surely his conflicting program that day as he is doing GP2.

        I do agree with Heidfeld doing as expected, but It would be interesting to see how far he could go with a teammate like Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel or even Button or Webber next to him to push him to greater hights.

      4. I agree with Ned. As I said in my comment above, there is too much talent waiting to shine in F1, but at the same time, there is plenty of talent shining at the moment that don’t deserve to be ousted.

    2. I thought and still think that Renault should have used their RESERVE driver to replace Kubica. I really like Heidfeld, but his time has passed in F1. Senna or Grosjean should’ve had the seat, and frankly I’d like them each to get at least a one off drive later this year as Lotus did with Chandhok this weekend, to see how they stack up driving the car in anger.

      1. But they need a leader, and Petov frankly isn’t far enough into his career to do that.

        1. What about Kobayashi? He’s doing just fine with Checo.

          1. I think the two drivers are in very different places in their career. Don’t forget Kamui was the Toyota reserve for quite a while.

    3. I think Renault have an eye on Grosjean and Senna is there to push Heidfeld.

  3. I disagree with Bass, it is about who won. Vettel not winning was fantastic.

    1. I think you’ll find he said:

      its not about who won, but what happened on the way to get there.

      I’m not saying that Vettel’s bad race isn’t good for the title, but if he won the race today, we’d still say it was a good Grand Prix. Remember Malaysia? Another classic that happened to be won by Seb.

      1. Whoops! Ignore my ‘smart-alecy’ opening sentence, I read that as “I agree with Bas”.

        Apologies.

  4. Oh Daily Star! I remember the article Pitpass.com did on the team’s 2010 budgets and which teams were late in paying bills etc. I couldn’t find a direct link to the original article, but this is the best I could do; http://www.gpwizard.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10864.0
    note: those are for 2010 season. Since all teams have agreed to lower their budgets/costs each season, it is plausible that their budgets are smaller for this 2011 season. God, I hate the Daily Star.

    I love how they know a couple figures for certain parts of a car, and then just put something like £307million budget for ferrari with no proper, heck, not even a really really vague explanation as to how they got to that number, or if it was from a source.

  5. I don’t think I heard Ted Kravitz throughout the 3 days. Does anyone know if he was there at all?

    1. No he was back in the UK on Paternity leave!

    2. for hungary too

      1. for hungary too

        Not for all of Hungary, though! :D See here.

        1. Not sure why the blockquotes didn’t work there. I must have clicked the wrong buttons. Sorry!

    3. I think he still got in touch during one of the practice sessions to point out McLaren was running a new rear wing or something! The guy never stops! Big congrats to Ted & Mrs Ted.

  6. Those two articles from the US were pretty interesting. For the first time I think I can say my scepticism about Austin is completely gone, and it seems it’s actually going to happen. For a while, I was convinced it was just going to be another Donington.

    Now, it seems that the important question is: will it be a success? I suppose potentially it should be, but you can always trust F1 to cock things up somehow or other.

    1. Mike Griffin
      25th July 2011, 1:00

      I think it will be a success, a massive one even, but eventually Bernie will think “I could squeeze more money out of this”, up his price substantially and hey presto, we’re without a US GP again.

      Sorry for the negativity but that’s just how I see it going down sadly :(

      1. I’m encouraged that it appears to be a new style for Tilke… (wow…)

        But worried that Tilke’s new style is still too much like the old Tilke.

      2. Surely Bernie cant have many more years at the helm… He is 81 now… The Austin Track is going to run for 10 years and by that time hopefully Bernie will be just a bad memory.

        At least as someone living here in Austin, I am hoping that is how it goes. Cant wait til next June!

  7. Mike Griffin
    25th July 2011, 1:02

    Nice to see Bruno Senna getting a chance again. I do fear though that when he isn’t on Heidfeld’s pace, or even that close, he’ll be pounced upon as slow and hogging a surname.

    That’s just judging from what I see on Twitter though, I am aware the commenters on F1F are far smarter F1 fans :)

  8. I would not be surprised if Heidfeld is replaced by the end of the season. Particularly by Romain Gorsjean.

    1. Exactly. Frenchman, running a French team, pushing for the return of the French Grand Prix – I’d say he wants a French driver also.

      1. First of all, Renault is no longer considered to be a French team. They compete under a British racing licence, and Renault themselves – the car manufacturer – sold their last remaining 25% stake in the team to Group Lotus at the start of the year.

        Secondly, while Eric Boullier is on the taskforce to revive the French Grand Prix, a French driver racing for a French team is not a prerequisite of the event making a comeback. In fact, they believe they could restore the race without anyone in the sport being French. But having a French driver and/or a French team in the sport helps their cause. Likewise, Romain Grosjean does not have to be that driver. If Jules Bianchi were to be promoted to Sauber next year without any involvement from Boullier or the taskforce, then the takforce would still be satisfied.

        And finally, my tipping Grosjean for Heidfeld’s seat has nothing to do with his being French at all. Grosjean is currently leading the GP2 Series championship, ahead of Giedo van der Garde and Charles Pic (who, I think, would be another candidate for Formula 1 at the end of the year, especially if the second half of his GP2 season is a little more consistent). Romain Grosjean could be from Tajikistan or Zambia or Peru and I’d still be tipping him simply because of his results.

        And in an interview with OneHD’s Tom Clarkson, Eric Boullier said he was going to watch Grosjean’s season very closely with a view to putting him into the car. Especially if Robert Kubica is able to make a return for Abu Dhabi or Interlagos, in which case Heidfeld would already be on the way out, so they figure they might put Grosjean in and give him a second bit at the apple.

        1. Like the nationality of the license you have means anything…

          1. It does when you claim that the team is French, but there none of the French have a majority ownership. They own, at most 25% of the team. Aabar Investments owns 25% of Mercedes, but that doesn’t make Mercedes an Emirati team.

        2. Secondly, while Eric Boullier is on the taskforce to revive the French Grand Prix, a French driver racing for a French team is not a prerequisite of the event making a comeback.

          Exactly. The US Grand Prix will be back, despite no US driver turning up since Scott Speed, and that embarrassment of a team that folded up before 2010.

        3. PM, Renault did not sell to Group Lotus. As far as can be traced it was sold to GenII, just as the other 75% sold before.

          GL is “only” the sponsor bankrolling the team.

          I do agree with you on Grosjeans prospects in the car, and he might get a run in the car before the end of the season.

          1. Correct, they didn’t sell to Group Lotus, it’s all Genii now. But PM’s right in that they’re in no way a French team—British licence, British sponsor, based in Britain.

    2. I don’t think it would happen until the final race, like when Nakajima got his shot at Williams in 2007.

      1. The suggestion is that Kubica will be able to come back in time for Brazil or Abu Dhabi. Since a team can run four drivers over the course of a season (I think), then Petrov, Kubica and Heidfeld make up three. If the team know that Kubica is absolutely coming back this year, then they have an extra card up their sleeve since they already know Heidfeld will be leaving. So, if they feel that their position in the WCC is secure (they’re currently fighting Mercedes, but they’ve got twice as many points as Sauber), they might swap Heidfeld out for Senna or Grosjean until Kubica is ready to return.

  9. Like the way Senna’s described as “an” LRGP Third Driver! Who are the other “third drivers” then – third behind Kubica, Petrov, Heidfeld and Senna?!

    Looks like the annual driver-change fever is spreading among the teams. I get the impression Renault wouldn’t have slipped this far back with Kubica driving them on. I’d like to see Senna get a few races, but I really hope Grosjean isn’t dropped into F1 midseason a second time, that could finish him for good. He won a cracking GP2 race today before the Grand Prix – I’d prefer if he won that series, then got a proper crack at F1.

    Just to underline how tough being dropped into F1 seems to be, Chandhok was struggling with brakes and tyres, despite his recent Friday practice and test sessions. Do the test drivers not go anywhere near the limits? Surely they get to use the brakes and tyres properly? Hulkenberg’s lap times are right up there with the others for example.

    1. Who are the other “third drivers” then – third behind Kubica, Petrov, Heidfeld and Senna?!

      Bruno Senna, Romain Grosjean, Ho-Pin Tung, Jan Charouz and Fairuz Fauzy.

      1. Maybe Boullier is collecting… I collect coins rather than drivers though, They don’t eat as much.

        1. Charouz and Fauzy don’t do much. Charouz is there because Gravity – Genii’s driver management arm – is connected to Charouz Racing System. Fauzy is there because he’s Malaysian, and is connected to Group Lotus. As for Tung, he has a superlicence that is valid for four races, and Renault occasionally use him for promotional events in Asia. Senna and Grosjean are the only ones who really do anything.

  10. Sebastian Vettel of Germany is dominating Formula One again this season, building on his 2010 championship with six wins in nine races.

    Is he?

    The last time one driver dominated the first half of the seaon, he struggled in the second. Vettel dominated the first nine races of 2011, but his race in Germany was less than we’ve come to expect of him. Maybe it was just a problem with his brake bias, or maybe history is repeating itself.

  11. I hope Lotus don’t keep Karun too long in their car,very poor performance.Good thing for Senna,I think from the start of the season that he should get some time in.Some testing before the summer break won’t be bad.The question is where?
    Justify penalty for Buemi but Nick also made a bad judgement.

    1. Chandok as I understand it will doing doing this race, and also the Indian race later in the year.

      Nick had every right to be there. Buemi didn’t do it on purpose. But regardless, you can not run people off the road.

      1. Chandok as I understand it will doing doing this race, and also the Indian race later in the year.

        Has it been confirmed that Chandhok will race in India? We know Karthikeyan is, but I haven’t heard anything from Team Ferandnes. I wouldn’t put it past Fernandes to put Chandhok in the car for the sake of a little extra publicity (especially if his team have a rough late season), but I don’t think there’s been an official word.

        1. Team Lotus. It’s Team Lotus dude. Or should I start commenting on Team Malaya?

          And I’d say it’s probable.

    2. He had to cope with very bad power steering…

    3. Justify penalty for Buemi but Nick also made a bad judgement.

      Think back to Canada and the incident between Lewis/Jenson. Racing incident, no?

      Difference this time was it wasn’t wet so there was no spray to mask the car behind BUT Buemi was looking in his left mirror when Nick was on his right.

      Otherwise, it’s a similar incident. Nick went for a gap that was only going to disappear and Buemi didn’t see him so moved to hold the racing line.

      All it shows is more lack of consistancy from the stewards. Also, the incident happened on lap 11 of 60, so why did it take them until after the race had finished for them to hand out the penalty to Buemi? Heidfeld was just about to be given a drive-through for the incident with Di Resta on lap 1 (which we never saw, thanks FOM!). What were the stewards doing? Did they go to the pub or something?!

  12. I assume the stewards were enjoying beer during the race. That’s why they didn’t penalise Buemi with a drive through in the final 51 laps.

    1. German beer is vey good.

      1. Or very, as it were. Looks like I had a few before posting that comment. Still would love an edit button!

        1. LOL, looks like you enjoyed it with them then!
          Pretty bad score, they had almost 50 laps without much of an incident to investigate, and to think we had complaints when it took them long to investigate Hamilton in Valencia last year!

  13. I think Renault has lost ground. after Kubica’s accident and win tunnerl trouble it would be better to focus on next year. Bruno Senna…I think Grojean is better but I’m not sure.

    1. Yeah, agreed. Senna is riding on the legacy. If a team sign him, it would be for the extra media attention only.

    2. Senna will be there mostly to push Heidi up a gear again (he needs pushing), Grosjean might make an appearance once the GP2 season ends.

      1. I doubt Senna will out perform Petrov, not yet at least.

  14. Lotus and Senna together again!

  15. Copngrats on the COTD Bas. I like it but I don’t entirely agree; if Alo or Web had been close enough to look like they could attempt a pass then that would have been enough for me.

    Happy birthday LookingSpiffy and Rdiulv!

    1. It was mainly to tell the guy I was reacting to that it certainly was not Hamilton winning perse that made it a highly rated race, but actually seeing a great race.

      Fully agree, that having a try would have been great as well.

    2. Yes, a big happy birthday to Rdiulv and, one of the funniest and my favourite people on Twitter ever; LookingSpiffy! Have a good day. :)

  16. I don’t know if I misunderstood in some way, but I watched the race again last night and remembered Barichello’s post race interview. He says “the team told him to retire with an engine failure but I tried to keep going” then starts talking about how he can’t go against the whole team telling him to come in.

    Now, I don’t know whether he’s just seen the praise Webber got for ignoring team orders a fortnight ago and tried to replicate it, but how bone-headed do you have to be to ignore the team for any time at all when they tell you to come in with an engine failure halfway through a season? I was dumbfounded at the time.

    1. I’d say he wasn’t trying to replicate at. As a driver, you always wanna keep driving, but seeing as the number of engines they have is limited, he said in the interview it was better to try and save this one than break it and have to use a new one. And if he went against his entire team, I’ll bet there’d be P45 on his pit board.

      1. There’s a difference between wanting to keep driving when you’ve got a puncture or lost an endplate, and keeping driving when your teams told you your engine is failing though surely?

        If you’re told your engine’s gone about a quarter of a way into a race, how often are you gonna come out of that situation looking good?

        1. I take it the “disagreeing” meant him asking for details on wether it was really needed to stop, rather than immediately doing as advised.

  17. In other news. It seems that common sense has prevailed for a change with the stewards and Mark Webber won’t be penalised for stopping to pick Fred up.

    Fred also had a litre left in his tank to give a sample to the FIA, so the race result won’t be messed around with.

    Now all we need is Button and Massa to get ahead of Vettel in the races, if Germany wasn’t a one off! If the Ferrari’s and McLarens can be ahead of the Red Bulls in every race there is still a chance, albeit a very slim one.

  18. Interesting comments all round on this one, I was most intrigued to see the “3.1mpg” figure on the daily star story, My rather dodgy maths works that out to be somewhere in the region of a gallon per lap?? where do they put it all, the tank on my Mondeo is 55L (approx 12gallons) and is bloody huge and that’s less than a quarter of what an F1 car has to take at the start of a race????

Comments are closed.