This race really showed the pecking order, and Ferrari are clearly 3rd best. So 5th and 6th were the best they could hope for today. At one point Alonso actually said, “I give up!” Good race from Massa though, after out qualifying Alonso he stayed ahead of him for the majority of the race. I was hoping he’d make that stick, but Alonso’s last stop and quick last stint put an end to that.
A good result for Hamilton, but I don’t think he’s out of the woods just yet. Pole position was great, and a podium just as good – but this isn’t the first time something like this has happened.
People were questioning Hamilton’s focus and his commitment from Monaco through to Silverstone. And he knuckled down and found whatever it was he needed to bounce back in time for the Nurburgring, taking the win there. But then, a week later, he blew it at the Hungaroring, overdriving in the wet and making a bad strategy call that cost him a shot at another win. And from there on, the collpase began. Between Hungary and Suzuka, he fell further and faster and landed harder than he did the first time around, pre-Germany.
So while I’m happy to see the old Lewis Hamilton is back in the thick of it, I’ll believe he’s found his way out of the woods when I see him stringing results like this together on a regular basis.
It’s a start. Hopefully Hamilton and McLaren can take it to the RedBulls in the coming races. Apart from the initial overtake by Seb and the scrap between Mark and Lewis there was nothing much in the race but enough to keep the surprise quotient up till the end.
That bad strategy call was a miss communication as they had radio problems, already the team had him on the wrong set of tyres at his earlier stop which already assured a Button win.
See, this is the kind of attitude I don’t like from Hamilton’s fans – the belief that Hamilton can do no wrong. Hamilton was first on the road. He had the priority pit call. But even if it was entirely the team’s fault, it doesn’t change the fact that Hamilton already blew it by spinning and forcing di Resta off the circuit. And that was enough to ruin his race. The bad strategy call was inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.
So by all means, marginalise Hamilton’s mistakes. It doesn’t change the fact that Hamilton has been making them, and nor does it mean that his pole position and podium in South Korea mean he has fully recovered from his mid-season hardships.
Webber’s 3rd is great for him esp as the Mclarens seemed right up there this weekend but he’s having such a tough year.
Felipe was great for the most part and it was only at he end where Fernando was very switched on. Itb was great to see them fight even if it was just for 5th and 6th.
JB was a bit of a let down but at least it went better than last year.
Vettel’s strategy (although not getting pole must have been disappointing) paid off. He had a great opening to the race and then did his usual sprint off into the distance trick.
I imagined Hamilton to be a bit more lively today but I guess the car wasn’t up to it. His battle with Webber was clean, fair racing and superb to watch. I’m still not convinced that this means he’s turning things around but only time will tell. It was lovely watching him driving car which is the only important thing but on a side-note, it’s just awful to watch him out of it. He seems so unhappy and he may be in a rival car but when one of the sport’s current greats is that miserable it’s just horrible.
I felt really sorry for Schumacher today. He took it really well I thought. His pass on di Resta was very amusing as he was more bothered about faffing on with his visor and still made it work. Maybe that was the DRS but I like to think it was the old Schumi magic.
Petrov hasn’t crashed so spectacularly for a while so he has grown up a lot this year even if his speed is still questionable.
I cannot quite believe that both Saubers finished behind Lotus. How is that possible? What happened?
Well Kobayashi did have to pit for a new front wing, so that dropped him back behind the Lotus boys, and for some reason Perez pitted on the last lap, he must have had a puncture. So Lotus beating Sauber is a somewhat skewed way to look at it, but Heikki should be happy and it no doubt signals progress for Fernandes and Co.
I was impressed by the way both Schumacher and Petrov handled themselves when interviewed about the accident. Schumi was at ease and Petrov owned up to it with dignity. They showed an example to the rest of the field. (I’m looking at you Lewis and Felipe)
That said, Lewis and Felipe both did well. Yay! It’s about time, and I hope the trend continues. They are both such a joy to watch when they are in top form, and I wish they could both return to it soon.
@Fixy ‘cos Ricciardo is keeping him in check! Especially embarrassing as Ricciardo had next to no dry running, has never visited this track before AND missed qualifying!
@andrewtanner before Ricciardo arrived Tonio was great, now he has many problems and when he and Karthikeyan both finished a race it was obvious Tonio wasn’t going to be last, now it is a fair battle. Daniel also beat Jerome! Well done!
I really hope Sauber are just fully focussing on next year rather than genuinely falling behind. They were leading the midfield in the first half of the year (apart from Renault, who were only good before their exhaust technique expired its potential).
Eggry (@eggry)
16th October 2011, 8:59
I hoped Ferrari would do much better but this is it.
Eggry (@eggry)
16th October 2011, 9:00
also Massa looked very well. New front wing of Alonso seems like it has more drag.
Adam Tate (@adam-tate)
16th October 2011, 10:04
This race really showed the pecking order, and Ferrari are clearly 3rd best. So 5th and 6th were the best they could hope for today. At one point Alonso actually said, “I give up!” Good race from Massa though, after out qualifying Alonso he stayed ahead of him for the majority of the race. I was hoping he’d make that stick, but Alonso’s last stop and quick last stint put an end to that.
Eggry (@eggry)
16th October 2011, 14:35
That “I give up” shocked me.
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys)
16th October 2011, 9:05
A good result for Hamilton, but I don’t think he’s out of the woods just yet. Pole position was great, and a podium just as good – but this isn’t the first time something like this has happened.
People were questioning Hamilton’s focus and his commitment from Monaco through to Silverstone. And he knuckled down and found whatever it was he needed to bounce back in time for the Nurburgring, taking the win there. But then, a week later, he blew it at the Hungaroring, overdriving in the wet and making a bad strategy call that cost him a shot at another win. And from there on, the collpase began. Between Hungary and Suzuka, he fell further and faster and landed harder than he did the first time around, pre-Germany.
So while I’m happy to see the old Lewis Hamilton is back in the thick of it, I’ll believe he’s found his way out of the woods when I see him stringing results like this together on a regular basis.
@HoHum (@hohum)
16th October 2011, 9:10
Amen.
GameR_K (@gamer_k)
16th October 2011, 9:22
It’s a start. Hopefully Hamilton and McLaren can take it to the RedBulls in the coming races. Apart from the initial overtake by Seb and the scrap between Mark and Lewis there was nothing much in the race but enough to keep the surprise quotient up till the end.
Oliver
16th October 2011, 9:28
That bad strategy call was a miss communication as they had radio problems, already the team had him on the wrong set of tyres at his earlier stop which already assured a Button win.
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys)
16th October 2011, 9:44
See, this is the kind of attitude I don’t like from Hamilton’s fans – the belief that Hamilton can do no wrong. Hamilton was first on the road. He had the priority pit call. But even if it was entirely the team’s fault, it doesn’t change the fact that Hamilton already blew it by spinning and forcing di Resta off the circuit. And that was enough to ruin his race. The bad strategy call was inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.
So by all means, marginalise Hamilton’s mistakes. It doesn’t change the fact that Hamilton has been making them, and nor does it mean that his pole position and podium in South Korea mean he has fully recovered from his mid-season hardships.
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
16th October 2011, 9:37
Exactly @prisoner-monkeys This is very much a game of consistency.
Doance (@doance)
16th October 2011, 9:08
I missed the race- was on a bus. Good to see Webber make it to the podium. As usual Vettel wins and Webber finishines third,
Doance (@doance)
16th October 2011, 9:11
And Ricciardo beating D’Ambrosio. I really hope he makes it to a better team next year.
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
16th October 2011, 9:42
A great day to be in any car with ‘Red Bull’ written on it.
Steph (@)
16th October 2011, 9:54
Webber’s 3rd is great for him esp as the Mclarens seemed right up there this weekend but he’s having such a tough year.
Felipe was great for the most part and it was only at he end where Fernando was very switched on. Itb was great to see them fight even if it was just for 5th and 6th.
JB was a bit of a let down but at least it went better than last year.
Vettel’s strategy (although not getting pole must have been disappointing) paid off. He had a great opening to the race and then did his usual sprint off into the distance trick.
I imagined Hamilton to be a bit more lively today but I guess the car wasn’t up to it. His battle with Webber was clean, fair racing and superb to watch. I’m still not convinced that this means he’s turning things around but only time will tell. It was lovely watching him driving car which is the only important thing but on a side-note, it’s just awful to watch him out of it. He seems so unhappy and he may be in a rival car but when one of the sport’s current greats is that miserable it’s just horrible.
I felt really sorry for Schumacher today. He took it really well I thought. His pass on di Resta was very amusing as he was more bothered about faffing on with his visor and still made it work. Maybe that was the DRS but I like to think it was the old Schumi magic.
Petrov hasn’t crashed so spectacularly for a while so he has grown up a lot this year even if his speed is still questionable.
I cannot quite believe that both Saubers finished behind Lotus. How is that possible? What happened?
Adam Tate (@adam-tate)
16th October 2011, 10:10
Well Kobayashi did have to pit for a new front wing, so that dropped him back behind the Lotus boys, and for some reason Perez pitted on the last lap, he must have had a puncture. So Lotus beating Sauber is a somewhat skewed way to look at it, but Heikki should be happy and it no doubt signals progress for Fernandes and Co.
I was impressed by the way both Schumacher and Petrov handled themselves when interviewed about the accident. Schumi was at ease and Petrov owned up to it with dignity. They showed an example to the rest of the field. (I’m looking at you Lewis and Felipe)
That said, Lewis and Felipe both did well. Yay! It’s about time, and I hope the trend continues. They are both such a joy to watch when they are in top form, and I wish they could both return to it soon.
Fixy (@)
16th October 2011, 11:33
Why’s Tonio always last? :(
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
16th October 2011, 14:04
@Fixy ‘cos Ricciardo is keeping him in check! Especially embarrassing as Ricciardo had next to no dry running, has never visited this track before AND missed qualifying!
Fixy (@)
16th October 2011, 14:26
@andrewtanner before Ricciardo arrived Tonio was great, now he has many problems and when he and Karthikeyan both finished a race it was obvious Tonio wasn’t going to be last, now it is a fair battle. Daniel also beat Jerome! Well done!
Eggry (@eggry)
16th October 2011, 14:38
@Fixy I’m afraid Liuzzi could not take a seat next year…
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
16th October 2011, 16:12
@Fixy @ Eggry I can’t see there being any teams above HRT who would take him so it may well be game over.
John H (@john-h)
16th October 2011, 12:39
Woah, Kovalainen ahead of the Saubers. Nice.
Fixy (@)
16th October 2011, 14:28
Nightmare race for the Saubers.
electrolite (@electrolite)
16th October 2011, 20:24
I really hope Sauber are just fully focussing on next year rather than genuinely falling behind. They were leading the midfield in the first half of the year (apart from Renault, who were only good before their exhaust technique expired its potential).
wasiF1 (@wasif1)
17th October 2011, 3:11
Strong result from both Torro Rosso boys.