Lotus: Both drivers unhappy with HRT rivals

24 comments on “Lotus: Both drivers unhappy with HRT rivals”

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   91jb12 (@91jb12)
   31st October 2011, 12:19

   Great opening stint from Heikki, slowly catching Senna and lapping within 2.5 seconds or so of Vettel most of the time. Shame his next set of tyres weren’t as good as without that he could have stayed with di Resta and that lot in sight
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   QuantumForce
   31st October 2011, 12:21

   It seems the start of the race was pretty chaotic for lots of the drivers..Broken wings, cars on fire..

   Back to the topic, Lotus is a team with a good package and the right people..But sometimes, i question their decisions..

   The result of Trulli probably made us wonder what would have happened if Chandhock got the drive instead
   1. 

      GameR_K (@gamer_k)
      31st October 2011, 12:33

      If Chandok had got hit by NK it wouldn’t get any better
      1. 

         BasCB (@bascb)
         31st October 2011, 13:13

         Might have led to an indian civil war :-P
   2. 

      Mr draw
      31st October 2011, 12:39

      Unfortunately Trulli’s race was ruined after a few corners, otherwise he might have finished in front of Barrichello too. Chandhok rear-ended his car whilst leaving the pits in the practice, so I don’t think he would have done something extraordinary in the race. But we’ll never know.
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   Fixy (@)
   31st October 2011, 14:00

   Impressive race by Kovalainen, however I am not going to judge Trulli’s. He was very unlucky at the start, and surely the floor damage influenced his race, but his lap times were unconsistent.
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      Enigma (@enigma)
      31st October 2011, 14:20

      @Fixy Trulli did say that his car was undriveable from there on. He had to do a whole lap with a punctured tyre and then car’s balance was awful. He really was unlucky.
   2. 

      On the contrary
      31st October 2011, 17:25

      Its interesting how bad luck always hits certain drivers in every team consistently.

      Fisichella, Trulli, Massa and now Lewis may soon join the elite batch if he doesn’t stop making those mistakes consistently.
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   Enigma (@enigma)
   31st October 2011, 14:22

   I’ve been mightily impressed by Kovalainen this season. If there’s a chance of getting into Q2, it’s him who does it, if there’s a chance of finishing ahead of someone from the established teams, he does it. And he always overtakes some of those on lap one.

   He definitely deserves at least a midfield car and I really hope Lotus provides him that next year.
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   On the contrary
   31st October 2011, 17:23

   a) Heikki needs to be picked by a better team. He is wasting his talent with Lotus.

   b) Wasn’t it last year when Tony Fernandes had gone on record with his rant that blue flags be done away with and Gascoyne joined the chorus? Their reason back then was slowing down for lead lap cars and leaving racing line makes them lose around 4 seconds per lap…. Luckily this blog provides lap charts for all the teams, if you compare the times lost by HRT drivers in the letting go the lead drivers, its bang on 4 seconds, especially the final stint where they were being lapped you can clearly notice a pattern, one lap NK and RICC post 1:33 next lap its 1:37 again.

   So lapped traffic is part of racing and so is losing time behind it. Tony-Lotus needs to stop this whining.

   What can be bad for a driver, having to fall in line and lie for front running team when it screws your race and qualifying strategy? or lie for low running team when it makes these pathetic complains. My heart goes out for Heikki again, for a driver of his talent, he deserves better than the deals he got at Renault, McLaren and now in Lotus…. Sad….
   1. 

      David-A (@david-a)
      31st October 2011, 20:24

      Heikki’s done really well this year, but when given a title winning car, he suffered from Fisichella syndrome.
      1. 

         electrolite (@electrolite)
         31st October 2011, 21:52

         I wouldn’t be so sure. I get the feeling he’s twice the driver now than he was at Mclaren, plus alongside Hamilton it was pretty obvious what his duty was.
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         On the contrary
         2nd November 2011, 9:06

         FYI being in winning team, doesn’t necessarily means you get winning car and winning strategy.

         While Ferrari makes no bones about having one #1 driver and other has to comply, McLaren are total hypocrites on this front.

         If you read every single race debrief in Kovy’s McLaren tenure, the team(Whitmarsh, who played the good cop back then) confessed in every single of them of heavy fuelling Kovy thus giving him inferior strategy in qualifying and hence race (forcing to run mid-field in dirty air).

         Same was case of Fisichella in 2005 when team started giving his inferior strategy, losing time on his pitstops after he won the first race for the team ahead of Alonso at Melbourne. By 2006 Fisi was done in head, something that happened with Kovy in 2009.

         If McLaren had been fair to Kovy and given him same shot at qualifying strategies as Lewis and he had goofed up by not securing pole, McLaren had a good case. unfortunately that never happened. So like it or not, Kovy was stuck with justifying his team screwing him back then and he is doing the same by falling in line with Tony and Mike’s pointless rant…
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            BasCB (@bascb)
            2nd November 2011, 9:29

            But when Kovalainen was at McLaren, there was no one beating the drum about them offering equal treatment to both drivers.

            Everyone expected them to treat Hamilton as their first driver. That changed when Button came.

            The rest of your comment is not really clear to me. What did Fisi have to do with McLaren?
   2. 

      AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
      31st October 2011, 21:39

      To be fair, Kovalainen seems pretty happy with Lotus. If he can even score a point next season with Lotus, that’s one hell of an achievement. It’s all relative.
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         On the contrary
         2nd November 2011, 9:10

         Yup that maybe the case, he might have adjusted his expectation after the right opportunities and events didn’t happened in first 2-3 years of his F1 career after he entered F1 circus has driver who had whooped Michael Schumacher at the peak of his career in the Race of Champions.

         Probably now he has realized to make hay while the sun shines. Why should he deny opportunity to drive a F1 car, get paid for it afterall…
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   AbeyG (@1abe)
   31st October 2011, 20:13

   @keithcollantine

   The Team Lotus facebook page says that Trulli was hit by Daniel Riccardo on the first lap?
   1. 

      Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
      1st November 2011, 8:11

      @1abe Well… they’re wrong! It was definitely Karthikeyan.

      Perhaps they forgot HRT moved Ricciardo from 22 to 23, putting Karthikeyan in 22 with the red camera.
   2. 

      On the contrary
      2nd November 2011, 9:14

      main thing is that its Karthikeyan’s fault and that’s what matters.

      After all he is the driver who brings in loads of monies and denies wannabe hamiltons and vettels who were waiting anxiously to drive that HRT car thus lowering the overall quality of drivers in F1. The blogger and the visitors of this site are doing wonderful job in their crusade against this trend of pay drivers throwing monies on back of the grid team…
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   AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
   31st October 2011, 21:43

   Great result for Kovalainen :D

   He is having a great second half to his season. He’s starting to beat the Williams more and more and it’s great to see, unless you’re Williams of course.
8. 

   wasiF1 (@wasif1)
   1st November 2011, 3:09

   Correct me if I am wrong,I know Jarno have a 2012 contract but do Heikki have anything in record?
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   Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys)
   1st November 2011, 7:10

   “I was seriously held up by the HRTs when they had blue flags shown to them. I think they held up Lewis [Hamilton] as well and they definitely cost me quite a lot of time.”
   Tough. A driver who has shown blue flags has no obligation to move over immediately. He has an obligation to move over at the earliest possible opportunity when it is safe to do so. So, if Kovalainen caught, say, Ricciardo just as Riccirado entered Turn 5, he’d probably have to wait until Turn 10 for Ricciardo to move over, because that is the safest place to do it.
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      BasCB (@bascb)
      1st November 2011, 8:33

      Not to mention that last year both Lotus drivers supported their boss in questioning the need to have blue flags at all (Glock was a bit more vocal on it, but they supported it)!
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    Casanova (@casanova)
    1st November 2011, 9:02

    Remarkable consistency from Heikki in his first stint – look at the lap times from lap 8 to lap 20. He is wringing the absolute maximum from that Lotus and they are getting tantalisingly close to competitiveness with the midfield teams. Don’t forget that the Renault, which Heikki kept in sight in the first stint, was on the podium twice at the start of the year. Here’s hoping that next year Lotus have made enough of a step forward to mix it with the big boys and challenge for points.

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