Eau Rouge is a corner once more

37 comments on “Eau Rouge is a corner once more”

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   hunocsi (@hunocsi)
   22nd August 2014, 18:08

   Why is the speed trap on the top of Eau Rouge? I thought it was supposed to find the maximum achievable speed, which would be at the end of the Kemmel straight, so it’s not too representative. And I would have been very interested in the top speeds, from what we’ve seen on TV the top speed today was around 335 km/h, maybe in race condition and slipstream 350 km/h is achievable?
   1. 

      Craig Woollard (@craig-o)
      22nd August 2014, 18:15

      @hunocsi Not always. That isn’t what the definition of a speed trap is, we have seen it placed on the pit straight (not always the longest) or generally after tricky corners before.
   2. 

      Bleu (@bleu)
      22nd August 2014, 18:22

      Normally they measure the speed at the end of each sector. With that happening at the end of longest straight, they have to place extra speed trap somewhere else.
      1. 

         hunocsi (@hunocsi)
         22nd August 2014, 18:41

         @bleu Fair enough, but where can I see the speed trap for S1? Because I can’t find anything about it neither on fia.com or formula1.com, and with the dumbed down interface of the Live Timing on formula1.com it’s not on this year, and I can’t use the mobile app as I use Windows Phone.
         1. 

            KaIIe (@kaiie)
            22nd August 2014, 21:06

            I think the only way to see them is through the app.
            1. 

               hunocsi (@hunocsi)
               23rd August 2014, 1:47

               Could someone share a few date from there then? You might have not noticed but I’m really interested.
   3. 

      @HoHum (@hohum)
      22nd August 2014, 23:46

      I never in my wildest dreams expected to see a RBR top the list for the speed trap at any race this year let alone Spa, I expect a little more wing will be added for the race.
      1. 

         hunocsi (@hunocsi)
         23rd August 2014, 1:46

         The speed trap is just after the exit of Eau Rouge or Raidillion, whatever its name is, so not that surprising that the RB leads on corner exit speed.
2. 

   KimiFTW
   22nd August 2014, 18:15

   They take Eau Rouge flat out every year in every kind of weather.

   Hint: Eau Rouge is the lefthand kink at the bottom (where HAM is in the picture), the uphill part is called Raidillion. 3 3 3 guesses what Raidillion means ;)
   1. 

      Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
      22nd August 2014, 18:25

      I’m not getting into a boring, pedantic row about semantics. Most people refer to the sequence as Eau Rouge, so for the purposes of the headline that will serve adequately well.
      1. 

         KimiFTW
         22nd August 2014, 18:55

         But most people get it wrong.

         If u know why they call the first part “Eau Rouge” and why they call the next part “Raidillon”, then u can never ever get it wrong again because the meaning makes sense
         1. 

            Bruno (@brunes)
            22nd August 2014, 18:57

            Why don’t you enlighten us with reason behind those names?
            1. 

               Mcquiz (@mcquiz)
               22nd August 2014, 19:10

               Eau Rouge refers to the river of Eau Rouge that the track crosses at the first part of the sequence, the light left. The rest is actually Raidillon. But nobody really cares about that except for some pedantic tweebs like KimiFTW here.
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               KimiFTW
               22nd August 2014, 19:11

               Eau Rouge is the lefthand kink at the bottom where the river Eau Rouge flows underneath. U can still see it if u go left towards the old borderpost (long gone) and the hairpin.

               Raidillon means steep slope. It’s like a wall when u go downhill towards it.
               That meas, lefthand turn is the name of the river, righthand turn is the steep slope. Easy peasy:)
            3. 

               Patrick (@paeschli)
               23rd August 2014, 19:24

               After seeing this image, you won’t forget where the name comes from :P

               To put it simply, it’s named Raidillion from the moment the track starts to go uphill, thus the name steep slope or Raidillon :)
         2. 

            Fikri Harish (@)
            22nd August 2014, 19:22

            Eau Rouge literally means red water but I have no idea why the corner is named that.
            Raidillon is French for steep slope, which is pretty straightforward.

            You don’t have to be a jerk just because you happen to speak French you know.
            1. 

               Graham (@guitargraham)
               23rd August 2014, 3:53

               its “red water” because thats literally the colour of the stream. guessing there’s a lot of iron oxide in the silt.
      2. 

         vishy (@vishy)
         22nd August 2014, 19:49

         KimiFTW was only commenting, that is what you what you want don’t you? There was no need to give such a sharp reaction.
   2. 

      InSilico_ (@insilico)
      22nd August 2014, 20:54

      I think it’s good to share this video :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX5dnFbI4tA
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      KaIIe (@kaiie)
      22nd August 2014, 21:14

      I have to add that almost every map refers the left hander at the top of the hill as being Raidillon, meaning the right hander is actually nameless.
3. 

   David BR2
   22nd August 2014, 18:19

   You’ve got oversteer at more than 300kph, and I admit I let out a few screams inside my crash helmet through there on a couple of laps, especially on high fuel.

   Imagine if we could hear this stuff! Drivers screaming, cursing, humming, Kimi wondering aloud what flavour ice cream he’s going to eat…
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      altitude2k
      22nd August 2014, 18:59

      “Kimi wondering aloud what bottle of hard liquor he’s going to polish off…”

      FTFY
4. 

   StefMeister (@stefmeister)
   22nd August 2014, 18:26

   I also noticed that on the exit of Paul Frère (Used to be called Stavelot 2) when the power started to kick in there was a lot of drivers getting sideways with wheelspin.

   That used to be an easy acceleration zone with the V8s so the extra torque & everything else from the new V6 Turbo power units has made that an area where drivers are really having to be careful with the throttle.
5. 

   Custard
   22nd August 2014, 18:46

   Bottas’ long run consistency… Wow. Mercedes looking stronger than ever! Big well done to all the staff at Brackley. Lewis looks strong but he did also at Montreal, Austria and Hungary… So nothing is predictable
6. 

   OmarR-Pepper (@)
   22nd August 2014, 19:11

   So Button screams today for the oversteer, and yesterday most drivers (Button included) said cars now are easier to drive?
   Help me find the truth please
   1. 

      Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989)
      22nd August 2014, 19:27

      @omarr-pepper
      The new cars are easier to drive from the physical point of view, the decrease of the cornering speed which is due to the loss of downforce and the restrictions on the engine power (fuel flow) reduces the G forces. The thing is due to the loss of downforce an old style fast corner like Eau Rouge that distinguishes men from boys is no more taken flat, and unfortunately we don’t have many corners like that on the calendar, that’s why driving the 2014 cars is easier than the previous cars in general
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      graham228221 (@graham228221)
      22nd August 2014, 19:44

      I think they were talking about the physicality of driving an F1 car, in terms of the G forces and sheer strength needed to drive the cars.

      “difficulty” in terms of managing power or oversteer is different – more mental (reflexes and bravery I imagine) as well as more refined throttle/steering input.
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   Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989)
   22nd August 2014, 19:12

   You’ve got oversteer at more than 300kph

   Not bad for a Ferrari fan, Alonso last year had a moment of oversteer out of Eau Rouge at 289 kph and managed to correct it without lifting the throttle and Raikkonen is oversteering by default
   1. 

      Patrick (@paeschli)
      22nd August 2014, 20:28

      Nice save! I hope we’ll see the old Kimi this weekend.
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      Tom
      22nd August 2014, 20:29

      That is an amazing save by Alonso. While watching the video, try repeatedly clicking the pause button to stop/restart the video and see how quick Alsonso’s hands move from turning left to countersteering to straight again. I can barely click the little pause button faster than he did that full maneuver of the steering wheel, and I’m sitting in the comfort of my chair going 0kph and he’s basically in a car that is sliding towards a wall at 300kph.
8. 

   jon snow
   22nd August 2014, 19:31

   Kimi on high downforce? I suppose it’s not the smartest set up around here. He’d be sitting duck on Kemmel straight…

   Or is it just he can’t do proper lap in low fuel because of another problems?
   1. 

      KaIIe (@kaiie)
      22nd August 2014, 21:17

      Technical problems for Kimi in both practice sessions. Also, in FP1 (according to MTV3) Kimi was testing new front wing that might be used in Monza, so he was on a very low DF setup in that session for some time.
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   mantresx (@mantresx)
   22nd August 2014, 22:02

   @stefmeister Are you going to have onboards with telemetry for this race?
   In free practice I noticed only a Lotus and a FI trough Eau Rouge had the telemetry on, the Lotus was flat at around 290 kph but the FI had to lift as it was going some 10kph faster, it would be very interesting to compare all cars to see which ones can go flat out.
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      StefMeister (@stefmeister)
      23rd August 2014, 0:03

      @mantresx Yeah, I always have the FOM OnBoard-Mix on a 2nd screen for all sessions & that has the telemetry on it.

      I was paying extra attention to the throttle trace today when cars went through Eau Rouge because because of how interested people were about if it was going to be flat or not.
      Although to be honest its something i’ve watched a little closer this year anyway to see how the new power units & all that extra torque people were talking about pre-season was affecting how drivers put the power down.
      1. 

         StefMeister (@stefmeister)
         23rd August 2014, 0:05

         I’ve put a few OnBoards from FP1 online, I’ll add more from FP2/3 & Qualifying tomorrow:
         https://www.mediafire.com/folder/qmnsq7sbin6bu/12_-_Belgium

         Not all are from the OnBoard-Mix so they don’t all have the telemetry graphics but with no commentary you can at least hear the engine sound more clearly.
      2. 

         mantresx (@mantresx)
         23rd August 2014, 2:48

         @stefmeister Thanks! really appreciate it, btw good to see you keep them at 50fps ;)
10. 

    Warren2185 (@warren2185)
    22nd August 2014, 23:12

    There were some great slow motion drifts caught by the cameras in FP2 today going through Eau Rouge, or was it Raidillon, or Parabolica, or Rascasse. Now I’m totally confused so I’ll just make it easy and say Eau Rouge. But it was cool to see the cars drift through there. Great stuff

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