Brawn “not considering” F1 return with Ferrari

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In the round-up: Ross Brawn says he is not in touch with Ferrari about a return to the team he led between 1997 and 2006.


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Brawn distances himself from Ferrari speculation (Reuters)

“I’m not considering a role at Ferrari or anywhere else at the moment. I’m not in contact with Ferrari and am not actively seeking a new role in Formula One.”

Ferrari faces long road back to glory in Formula One (FT, registration required)

Bernie Ecclestone: “Ferrari has been crucial to F1, and F1 has been crucial to Ferrari. Nobody is indispensable, but they may not be better off without him.”

Caterham: Koba a Singapore e Caldarelli a Suzuka? (Omnicorse, Italian)

Following Andre Lotterer’s drive at Spa another Japanese Super Formula driver, Andrea Caldarelli, is linked to a potential drive at Caterham.

Radio gu-gu, Radio ga-ga (Ferrari)

“Information about brake and tyre wear are among those currently banned but messages on these topics could prevent dangerous incidents.”

FIA will not allow coded messages in F1 (Autosport)

“When asked about the possibility of teams being allowed to use secret codes or different language, an FIA spokesman said: ‘No, definitely not, this is exactly what we feel infringes Article 20.1.'”

Gonchi, the movie – official trailer (YouTube)

Formula One Gran Premio D’Italia 2014 (F1)

Video highlights from the last race including some more team radio from Daniil Kvyat and Rob Smedley.

Maurice Hamilton: Ciao Luca (ESPN)

“Ferrari may be the winner but F1’s diminishing stock of characters is the unfortunate loser.”

Jolyon Palmer’s GP2 Diary – Italy (Sky)

“Obviously a big part now is to build on the success from this year and to try and move up to F1. I have a management team working on that and from recent developments I’m optimistic of being on the F1 grid next year.”

Thoughts from Monza’s first chicane (Peter Windsor via YouTube)


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More questions over how the FIA will enforce and penalise the new limits on team radio:

So what happens if the teams ignore this and give advice anyway, do the drivers get black-flagged? Or is it just a monetary fine? Or a drive-through penalty? Or maybe just five seconds?

Anyway what I see happening is teams using what they can legally say on the radio as a way to make coded messages. The FIA in this instance will find it very hard to prove that it was an instruction. All of a sudden messages like ‘we need to pit three laps after the target lap’ might mean you’re losing time in sector three, or it may mean ‘strat mode three please’, so in this case how will the FIA know that it is an instruction?

Personally if the FIA what’s to ban something it should be messages like ‘carry more speed into that corner’ or ‘brake a little bit earlier’ or ‘your team mate is using more rear brake balance’ or even worse a driver asking the team ‘driving advice please’, that’s okay to ban, but not information that the teams can and will find other ways of getting to the driver.

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35 comments on “Brawn “not considering” F1 return with Ferrari”

  1. Oh Kevin, very very funny :)
    Might send him some hate mail as well so he notices me! #Excited

  2. Thanks for sharing the trailer for the Gonchi movie. Glad that people who are now very successful and used to race with him still remember his unique style an attitude. As I pointed out in twitter, he’s our own Senna, and the Laguna Seca race is our own Imola 94. Seeing the crash inevitably brings tears to my eyes. My surname is casually Rodriguez, and we named my little brother Gonzalo in his honor. You can tell what kind of family is mine ;)

    1. @carlitox I can sense the feeling you have, and it is great that Rodriguez was able to inspire fans like yourself, as well as entire nation of Uruguay. I myself do not have any memories of him. However, it is not how we want any driver to end their career and I do recall the incident, those years ago. I heard about it via the news and couldn’t believe that anyone could lose their life at the famous cork screw corner at Laguna. At the time, I was unaware of its steep drops behind the armcove barrier.
      When I think back, Indycar has gone through some terrible tragedies in recent times, Wheldon, Rodriguez and Greg Moore. Lets hope that the series has learned from the tragedies and hope they’ve implemented the right safety strategies.

    2. Indeed. Grest story.

  3. Formula Indonesia (@)
    13th September 2014, 1:42

    Anyway, will formula e broadcast in Southeast Asia ?

    1. @f1indofans Yes, on Fox Sports 3.

      1. Formula Indonesia (@)
        13th September 2014, 3:54

        Thanks for the info @journeyer

  4. So taking our lead from the truthfulness of recent Ferrari denials, we can assume Brawn will be unveiled at Maranello tomorrow.

    1. If you’re referring to Montezemolo recent statement about his commitment for 3 more years, then you’re wrong, there was no denial Luca expected himself to remain until 2017 but the FIAT board of directors (the Agnelli’s +marchionne) were having different ideas.

      1. Referring to the casual brushing off of the rumours at Monza and back when the story first surfaced, by everyone involved. Everyone knew he was going, including him, but (example quote from Monza):

        “I have seen and heard a lot of rumours regarding myself and this often happens in the summer in Italy. But maybe this time is a little bit too much.”

    2. Ross is too happy out of F1, & will not be coming back anytime soon, by the sound of it. If he really wanted it, he could have any job in the pit lane apart from maybe Merc or RBR. It doesn’t seem like him to go over old ground anyway and likes to build a team of his own, so if he were ever to return it would be somewhere like Williams or FI. Lotus would have too many financial headaches and McL or Torro Rosso would be V. unlikely as he would be working for a heavy hand like RD or Marko.

    3. @neilosjames: Well, in time-honoured F1 style the part quoted doesn’t actually preclude a return. Let’s have a look at what he said and what it could mean:

      I’m not considering a role at Ferrari or anywhere else at the moment.

      … because I’ve finished considering and made my mind up …

      I’m not in contact with Ferrari

      … right now …

      and am not actively seeking a new role in Formula One.

      … because the seeking is over and the deal is done.

      In a way, this non-denial makes me think it’s more likely that Ross Brawn will go back to Ferrari than before he said it! He could have made a straightforward “no, I’m not going back to F1” statement, but he couched it in terms which can be interpreted either way. Or maybe he’s just having a bit of fun winding us all up ;-)

  5. Many points of discussion today:

    ‘Gonchi’ looks interesting… it’s nice to see more and more movies being made about Formula 1.

    I wish Lotterer would get another crack at it… driving a Caterham is a very unfortunate place to end up.

    Radio: yeah, this is going to go well

    On this day in F1: I still remember watching Lewis throw away that race. I think he touched the white line on the outer edge of one of the Lesmo corners. Would’ve been a great finish considering McLaren’s poor form in 2009.

    1. He raced in F3000 and 2 Indy CART races, not F1… I looked it up because I knew Senna was the last F1 racer to die on track so it did not fit that Montoya and Webber would be contemporaries and him having died. Still probably a great story as there is great action in all categories of Motorsport (I just don’t have much free time to catch them all). From the looks of it, he would have given Montoya, Kimi, Webber and Alonso a run for their money in the latter stages and post-Schumi dominated years of F1 if he had survived…

  6. I had to read that tweet from Kevin’s hater before I understood what exactly it said.
    “Diskwallifeid” on top of a penalty? Only a “moran” would say such a thing.

  7. It’s not a pretty solution but maybe all the radio messages are taken from a prerecorded list that is convayed to the driver by a Siri-like computer voice. Teams could request additions to the official list by submission to their rivals and FIA.

    Unfortunately this would destroy any personality left in the message but it would be the same list for everyone and if the FIA had faith in it it could* avoid the need for penalties or extensive monitoring.

    F1 sat nav; with the voice of Murray Walker.

    *The engineers will think away around it

    1. Not difficult at all they (engineers) have to do is change the frequency betwixt pit and driver when they wish to broadcast a “banned” message

  8. Mark in Florida
    13th September 2014, 6:01

    Ross Braun will be there within the week. It seems that in F1 when you hear denial it means just the opposite. I really do hope that Ross will return and put Ferrari back on the right path. He’s a man with a clear vision of what it takes to win. Like his methods or not he gets it done.

    1. It’s a very carefully worded denial. At the moment he’s not considering a return, so tomorrow that could be different. Or he’s not actively seeking, but when asked he might consider. So no untrue words have been spoken. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re going to approach him in the near future. But we’ll see I guess.

  9. “Diskwallifeid” “moran”
    Kevin’s race engineer is testing coded radio messages!

  10. COTD. I have seen better comments on the radio banning.

  11. Regarding the radio ban (and it may well have been mentioned here already, sorry if so!): does it stop the teams from sending written messages to their driver’s steering wheel display instead?

    1. They can’t. What they can display is pretty basic and the same for every team as it’s operated by the ECU if I remember correctly. McLaren technologies makes the ECU for every team.

    2. I am sick and tired of FIA inventing new rules pretending they care about fans when they’re doing the exact opposite by not scraping double-points rule for Abu Dhabi GP.

      If we’re in 2014 and Formula 1 is a team sport, there’s nothing wrong in drivers interacting with their pit crew, whether it’s for safety or performance. Team radio is there for everybody, so it’s not like an unfair advantage for team A or team B. Hamiton will be better than most drivers out there with or without team radio. Fernando Alonso is not at Ferrari earning tens of millions of dollars every year because he’s better at absorbing advice through radio than others, he’s there because he’s of superior caliber.

      If some people are nostalgic and want the noisy V12s and V10s just bring back classic F1 races. Racing is 2014 is actually very good and should improve in 2015 when other Renault and Ferrari re-design their engines and get closer to Mercedes, so why so much poanic? FIA you should Keep Calm.

      1. What if FIFA said coaches: “Don’t yell at any player in the pitch”

        1. @jcost While I haven’t necessarily wrapped my head around this issue, and am trying to figure out why now amongst other questions I have such as how they enforce this and penalize for it, it does feel like more than ever a driver is being micromanaged in the car.

          So much of F1 is now about conserving fuel, tires, and engines, which means drivers are constantly having to monitor everything and being told when they can and can’t do this or that, including actually racing against a guy vs. hanging back for a DRS zone, or for the sake of saving the tires, that perhaps FIA feels actual driving tips per corner means very little is left in the hands of the drivers.

          Just because this is 2014 and they are better than ever at communicating this kind of stuff, does that automatically mean they should? That they should allow the dumbing down of the amount the driver does on his end?

          Personally it wasn’t on my radar to be concerned when each Merc driver was being told where the other guy was making up time, because I haven’t automatically assumed that the guy’s driving style or car setup would necessarily allow one bloke to instantly duplicate the other bloke’s lap, but there’s no denying the micromanagement of the driver has never been more prevalent.

          1. @robbie I agree with you when you say, just because they can, doesn’t mean they should. However, this is nothing new. It’s not something of this season, it’s something that’s been going on for a few years already. And now all of a sudden the FIA decides it’s no longer okay to do this. I honestly can’t take the FIA seriously when they make decisions like this mid season. If they had proposed it for next year, fine, but mid season? Really? I’m so very sure the racing is going to be so much better now (as if it’s been disappointing), or that teams will find absolutely no way around this sooner or later.. Why was this a problem that needed fixing in the first place? There are important things the FIA needs to be doing, like policing a budget cap for example, but noooo, radio messages are so much more important.

          2. @maarten-f1 Agreed. For sure this isn’t new, which is why I too question the timing. It’s a hard one to grasp when even the likes of Toto Wolff have more questions than answers about this. I think it is too hard to define how or why this is being effected, let alone how it will affect the racing. Well, the why, we’re told, is because drivers are being too aided…seemingly suddenly. In the context of all that has been enacted or rumored this season, I guess something else out of the blue shouldn’t be a big surprise.

            So, I don’t know. If we hear more reasons for this perhaps it will make more sense. They could simply not air comms relevant to this issue if it was about fans feeling it has become too much, so one wonders what more reasons from within comms we haven’t heard are of significance, to effect this change. Have they gotten too good at figuring out the tires for F1’s liking? Or do they genuinely think going a little bit back to basics is prudent for the betterment of F1? I can’t argue that one, given all the other umpteen changes going on.

  12. Peter’s Windsor’s videos are usually very interesting – particularly here he compares Lewis’ positioning of his car comparing to Nico and others and Peter’s interpretation of what Lewis is doing is fascinating. I’d love to see more of this kind of stuff comparing drivers.

    1. Thanks! I wouldn’t have watched that vid until you pointed it out. I do think however his analysis of the chicane might have missed that there were two different braking strategies happening on entry hence the two different mid-chicane positions of all the drivers.

  13. The Blade Runner (@)
    13th September 2014, 10:44

    So Formula E are holding their first race in a country which forbids them from telling people about it?

    A very good point well made Keith

  14. Caldarelli’s official site seems quick enough to response (or deny):

    1. @fletchuk +1 That looks great! Think it’ll be more heavily sponsored by Honda though. I get the impression that’s why they’re struggling to get a lead sponsor this year – because it will only be a one year deal.

      1. @petebaldwin – sigh yes im expecting that too. And I guess they’ll be playing on the whole Senna Red/White look too I expect.

        Love these fan liveries though

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