Ricciardo recovers for podium after poor start

19 comments on “Ricciardo recovers for podium after poor start”

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   Kingshark (@kingshark)
   2nd November 2014, 23:28

   That was almost an average drive by Ricciardo’s standards, which is still exceptional for the majority of the grid.

   Alonso v2.0
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      VMaxMuffin (@vmaxmuffin)
      3rd November 2014, 0:18

      I can see Ferrari wanting him one day, particularly with his Italian background. I’m fairly certain that if Ricciardo won the championship the Italian press would adopt him as the first “Italian” champion since Ascari.
   2. 

      Stretch (@stretch)
      3rd November 2014, 0:34

      @kingshark When he can start like Alonso, then he’s v2.0. Although, if he had kept his position at the start, we wouldn’t have seen some of the best passes of the race.
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         activewings (@activewings)
         3rd November 2014, 1:11

         For starting he is Webber v2.0
   3. 

      WilliamB (@william-brierty)
      3rd November 2014, 10:45

      @kingshark – I wouldn’t say it was average, he still beat a pair of probably faster FW36s and Daniel’s performances in Sochi and Singapore better fit my definition of Ricciardo-spec averageness, but the spectacular nature of his drive was certainly artificially constructed by a poor start. And why is he not Hamilton v2.0? As Lewis did in 2007 he is ruining the stock value of his more illustrious teammate, and like Lewis, has the most remarkable way with the brake pedal. I still don’t understand how he managed to make the apex without locking a wheel as he swooped on Magnussen on the first lap. He also exudes Hamilton-esque ease and confidence, with particular reference to 2007 again. This kid has one huge future ahead of him.
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   @HoHum (@hohum)
   2nd November 2014, 23:48

   SebV likes racking up those statistics, another fastest lap, just goes to show why points for fastest lap are not justified.
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      Zane Jakobs (@zjakobs)
      3rd November 2014, 1:28

      you mean in series that do have that rule @hohum? I may have totally misunderstood your comment, but it seems like you’re saying F1 has it
      1. 

         @HoHum (@hohum)
         3rd November 2014, 1:44

         Negative, just saying F1 definitely does not need to adopt it. @zjacobs.
   2. 

      MattDS (@mattds)
      3rd November 2014, 7:40

      Yeah… I don’t think Vettel liking statistics has anything to do with his fastest lap. More like him being on new softs with 7 places left to recover in 7 laps and thus having to drive the wheels off that car.
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         Oletros (@oletros)
         3rd November 2014, 8:00

         If we used reality we couldn’t bash VET for making a FLAP just to increase his stats
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   @HoHum (@hohum)
   2nd November 2014, 23:54

   I really wish we can see more of RIC passing on the track as he did with ALO instead of seeing positions gained in the pits as he did with the 2 Williams, and I wish the same all through the field.
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   Tyler (@tdog)
   3rd November 2014, 0:43

   “He was demoted by Kevin Magnussen and Fernando alonso, but an early pit stop for the McLaren driver handed one place back to Ricciardo”

   Ricciardo passed Magnussen on track, prior to the Dane pitting.
5. 

   Ed
   3rd November 2014, 1:53

   Great driver, but today it was due to Williams’s unbelievable incompetence.
   When they called Bottas to the 2nd pit stop they handled Ricciardo 3rd place on a silver platter. And to make things worse Massa’s last pit was too long.

   They could’ve achieved better results like a 2nd on Austria and this today. May be that Smedley guy’s fault, as he is responsible for all strategies for the team.
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      Mr win or lose
      3rd November 2014, 9:27

      True. Williams allowed Ricciardo to undercut one of their drivers twice. They should have finished 3rd and 4th or 3rd and 5th, not 4th and 5th.
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      Vortex Motio (@vortexmotio)
      4th November 2014, 0:14

      The weaknesses of Williams’ race strategy abilities has been the Achilles tendon for them in many races this season.

      Two significant things that I’ve not seen elsewhere about this battle for third in Austin are the significance of Williams running S, S, M tire strategy versus the S, M, M strategy of the podium finishers.

      In particular, note that Massa’s 2nd stint was 18 laps on (used) softs. No other driver ran as long a stint on softs (new or used) in this race.

      In contrast, Ricciardo’s 2nd stint was 17 laps on new mediums.

      This enabled a performance advantage for Ricciardo over Massa at the end of their 2nd stints.

      If we compare the last two laps at the end of each driver’s 2nd stint, we see that Ricciardo gained 1.5 secs on Massa:
      MAS – 1:44.365 – lap 31
      MAS – 1:45.079 – lap 32 ended in pit
      vs
      RIC – 1:43.873 – lap 30
      RIC – 1:44.194 – lap 31 ended in pit

      So RIC gained ~0.5 secs over MAS on the lap prior to the pit-in lap, (RIC lap 30 vs MAS lap 31). And RIC gained ~0.9 secs over MAS on their pit-in laps, (RIC lap 31 vs MAS lap 32).

      In addition, if we look at what Ricciardo did on his outlap, and we compare his outlap to those of Bottas and Massa, while removing the 1.2 secs for Massa’s longer pit-stop, we see that though all three were on new mediums, Ricciardo was ~0.5 secs faster than Bottas (not too relevant perhaps). When we remove the additional 1.2 secs for Massa’s longer pit-stop, Ricciardo was still ~0.3 secs faster than Massa on their out laps.

      In other words, Ricciardo was able to use his tires to gain a total of 1.7 secs in those three laps alone, (the lap prior to pit-in, the pit-in lap, and his pit-out lap). If we total Ricciardo’s on track gain of 1.7 secs with Williams performing 1.1 secs slower on Massa’s pit-stop (vs Ricciardo’s), then the total gain is 2.8 secs to pass for the position.

      A bad few laps for Massa and Williams… but it must be said, well executed by Ricciardo and Red Bull.
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   Mr win or lose
   3rd November 2014, 9:36

   Why was Vettel so much faster after his first “regular” pitstop? In the first half of the race he was unable to do anything and in the second half he was flying. Given the car’s potential he should have finished at least 6th, but due to a crappy strategy (and a poor car setup?) he was nearly a lap behind.
7. 

   Ayrtonfan (@)
   3rd November 2014, 9:58

   If they gave out a trophy for the best overtaking highlights package of the year I think Dan would take it home!!
8. 

   Yoshisune (@yobo01)
   3rd November 2014, 11:18

   What was Alonso doing in his last stint? He did a couple of fast laps, but in the other laps he was incredibly slow, doing 1:46 and 1:47. In the penultimate lap he did a 1:50.
   That explains why Vettel was able to cut the gap from 25 seconds to half a second in seven laps.
9. 

   ualienss
   3rd November 2014, 11:24

   On the lap times chart leave only Hamilton and Rosberg. Then zoom in the fragment bw two pit stops. Finally answer the question (let’s imagine you didn’t watch the race): at which lap Hamilton overtook Rosberg? Still nothing strange?

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