No misgivings over double points title win – Rosberg

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Nico Rosberg isn’t concerned about the possibility of winning the championship because of the controversial double points rule, which he has previously criticised.

Regardless of this weekend’s result, Rosberg is guaranteed to win the championship is if he wins the final round in Abu Dhabi, which is worth double points, and Lewis Hamilton fails to finish.

“Everybody can have their opinion and in sport it’s the points that count in the end,” said Rosberg. “Of course you can debate who deserves it more or less, that’s always going to be the case.”

Rosberg criticised the double points rule as being “really artificial” in July, when he held a 14-point lead in the championship. He now trails team mate Lewis Hamilton by 24 points with two races remaining.

With Hamilton able to win the championship by finishing both races in second place, Rosberg admitted his title chances depend on his team mate suffering a setback.

“Well it’s clear I need to rely on something happening,” he said. “For sure it’s not enough for me to win, unfortunately, that’s the way it is. In sport so much can happen so I’m very optimistic.”

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83 comments on “No misgivings over double points title win – Rosberg”

  1. He should be. I won’t regard him as a legit champion if he does and I’ll probably stop watching if double points is on again for next year.

    1. You think he cares what you regard him as? Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

      1. After his results since spa? Yes I would say he very much cares what you regard him as.

      2. If he squeaks it on double points after a Hamilton retirement and there is an outcry from the fans (and there would be) it’ll be a real stretch to try and say a championship victory based on such a gimmick isn’t tarnished.

    2. So by that logic would you also not regard Senna as the 1988 champion?

      Prost outscored him that year, but the since dropped rule that you had to drop certain results made Senna champion. Even though Prost outscored him a 105-94 points.

      I also think double points suck donkey ass. But it IS the rule so if Nico wins the championship, he will be the legit champion.

      1. It’s not the same. Senna won more races both in 88 and 89, suggesting that overall he was the quickest driver across the season. The 11 best scores rule did actually have an understandable, if flawed premise i.e. a quick driver with bad reliability would not be penalised so heavily. The double points in Abu Dhabi is just a load of nonsense concocted by Bernie, that unfortunately the teams did not have the bottle to veto.

        We could have a situation where Hamilton wins 5 or 6 more races more than Rosberg and still finishes 2nd. Arguably Nico hasn’t beaten Lewis on merit (Austria?, perhaps Canada but then Hamilton was behind in the dirty air, and was ahead when he retired) all season long. How on earth is that a fair result? Rosberg will forever be tainted as a champion if he wins due to double points, and if he will not be the champion in my eyes, and I’m sure in many peoples too if that happens. If Lewis is more than 25 points ahead after Brazil, he in my view he is the champion.

        1. Pironi, Watson and Prost all had more wins than Rosberg in ’81. I don’t agree the one with the most wins was the quickest driver across the season. A season points tally is about being consistently fast everywhere and if you’re not the fastest come second. So if someone finished second in every race but still takes the title that is a well deserved one indeed.

          1. 1982 is a poor example. 11 different winners in 16 rounds and no one won more than 2 races. Any one of a number of drivers could have been champion that year after Pironi got injured, its not the same as 88, 89 or this year.

        2. Sorry buddy but looks to me like you’re just one of those people who has set their mind to “this is the way it is” and then no longer listens to counterarguments.

          People give examples and you brush them away, by stating it was less worse, or not the same…

          But I believe you are missing the argument. Do I believe Hamilton was faster this yes? Yes. No question. Do I believe he deserves it more, again probably yes. But as mentioned before, it’s not always about being the quickest. It’s about scoring the most points within a given set of regulations. However stupid or unfair those may seem. Senna won more races, but had more retirements in 88 yes, why did he have them? Maybe because he pushed harder, sometimes harder then his car could handle. Arguably he didn’t drive the smart way that Prost did. That doesn’t apply to 2014, I know. However, both men were goven the same rules, and opportunities. And if Nico comes out on top, I’ll say he has done the best job.

          1. I understand your argument. I just don’t agree with it.

    3. @spawinte I don’t see why.

      The rules were clear from the beginning of the year. I despise this rule, but it’s on the table. Hamilton knew it aswell, and he knew all year long that he had an extra shot in Abu Dhabi if he failed to close the gap.

      Now the roles are reversed. It is what it is… we knew it all along. It’d have been really difficult for any driver to have a 50 plus points advantage before Abu Dhabi, so the chances of the title being decided there were high.

      1. @fer-no65 the point is not even the rules fairness anymore, it’s about Nico’s flip-flop behavior. The respect I had for Nico 8 months ago is completely different today…

        1. @jcost see the link Keith is refering too. He says “it’s silly and artificial but winning is winning”.

          So I find it a little bit misleading from Keith’s part.

          Back in July (even while leading the WDC) he said, as stated in his column at the daily mail:

          “The concept is really artificial, I don’t like it and that is a pity, but that is the way it is and we have got to accept it. Winning is winning, and obviously I will be happy if I win this year’s championship whatever the circumstances. ”

          So it’s far, faaaaaaar from flip-flop… he said the same thing twice, but on different circumstances.

          1. @fer-no65

            So I find it a little bit misleading from Keith’s part.

            In what way? The quote you reproduced from Rosberg is entirely in line with how I characterised his comments in the article.

            For what it’s worth, I don’t think it is hypocritical for Rosberg to say he doesn’t like double points while taking the pragmatic view that the game is played by the rules that are set. And I’m sure you don’t need me to tell you again what I think of double points!

            It’s a pity no one thought to ask Rosberg whether it should be changed for next year, which I think would have given a revealing answer, particularly as Hamilton said last week it should be.

          2. Please don’t take this the wrong way, @keithcollantine

            “Rosberg criticised the double points rule as being “really artificial” in July, when he held a 14-point lead in the championship”

            “Nico Rosberg isn’t concerned about the possibility of winning the championship because of the controversial double points rule, which he has previously criticised.”

            He previously criticised it and said that “winning was winning” and he’d take it however it goes. So I dunno, I find it a bit misleading that we’re talking about all this when he said the same thing in July.

            I get the feeling that this being a talking point now makes him sound like he changed his opinion because he’s now trailing Hamilton in the championship.

    4. I have the feeling the championship will not be decided by the double points rule (which doesn’t mean I don’t thoroughly dislike the stupid rule). I’m quite certain Hamilton will either ace it or bin it, and the result would be the same with or without the double points rule.

      1. @flig
        Under normal scoring if Hamilton outscored Rosberg at Interlagos then he would be champion whether he binned it at Abu Dhabi or not.

        1. I know, I understand and repudiate the rule. All I’m saying is that chances are quite high that the whole controversy will be moot – Hamilton will either mop the floor with Rosberg or hit trouble twice and lose out 2007 style, by a narrow margin, due to a mix of reliability and mistakes at the end of the championship. It’s all speculation, just like the whole “I’ll be damned if Rosberg wins because of the double points”. Frankly, even though I am NOT a Hamilton fan, I cannot imagine Rosberg being able to threaten him… it’s Hamilton’s title to lose…

  2. Mind_the_Cones
    6th November 2014, 14:19

    I probably wouldn’t regard him as legitimate champion either. At the same time, I hate double points but don’t see it as any more unsporting than scoring systems in the past (eg. 1988 best 11 results count, Prost scored more points over the season but Senna won the Championship).

    I don’t think we can just pick and choose who’s a legitimate champion and who’s not. But I just hope double points doesn’t affect the Champion…

    1. Best results counting was the rule since 1950 until 1979, at least most of the time i think. So, it was not only in 1988! It is way better and fairer than double points! Even this year it would be better if those rules were in force. What’s the point of a driver winning 10 or 11 races losing the title to a team mate that has only won 4 or 5??? (Just because the best driver had more mechanical failures or some sort of bad luck)

      If Hamilton doesn’t finish in Brazil and Rosberg wins the German will go to Abu Dhabi leading the championship by 1 point. This despite Hamilton being the better driver by far, with much more wins and also more consistent, as he made less mistakes in races. I find this more unsporting than Prost losing the title to Senna in 1988, as the Brazilian at least won more races than the French.

      I also think it would be interesting to find out what kind of rule was in force each year since 1950. I know in 1963 Jim Clark was champion with maximum points available, as he won 7 races out of 10 and for the championship only 7 best results counted.

  3. Even if I, or we, disagree (and Nico did earlier on as well), a win is a win, so if he wins the title, it’s a title won. At least it’s not as bad as the ‘NASCAR lottery’.. Newman has a chance to win the title despite no wins all season. A title resting on one race, despite the amount of huge pile-ups in NASCAR, is a recipe for disaster.

    1. So we can agree both systems are dumb then

      1. +10 :)

  4. If Rosberg does win due to double points, I will still consider Hamilton to be the 2014 champion. No offence to Rosberg, he can have his celebration if he wants to, but I will be writing my own history books.

    (as a disclaimer, it would have been the same had Hamilton won due to double points)

    1. @ andae23
      So by that logic would you also NOT regard Senna as the 1988 champion?

      Prost outscored him that year, but the (since dropped) rule that you had to drop certain results made Senna champion. Even though Prost outscored him a 105-94 points.

      I also think double points suck donkey ass. As did the old point dropping rule. But it IS the rule so if Nico wins the championship, he will be the legit champion.

      And as history shows, so shall he probably be remembered

      1. Dropped scores is fairer than double-points though, as it allows for a poor result due to circumstances beyond the driver’s control to be ignored.

      2. @melkurion that should have an asterisk next to it (as should the 1964 championship where the same thing happened) just as much as this year should the worst case scenario occur. Whilst I do feel that dropped scores is less unfair than double points, I still regard it as unfair at the end of the day.

        The driver and team with the most points from a number of equally-scoring rounds (as the races are the same length bar Monaco) should be World Champion. The only time when rounds should not score the same as any other is when half points are awarded.

      3. @melkurion No: as the commenters above me pointed out, dropped scores is at least somewhat fair, since it doesn’t benefit any driver. Double points is the same for everyone at the start of the season, but at the end of the season the championship leader will have a major disadvantage.

        Dropped scores is a bit silly, but double points are off the scale.

        1. @andae23 You can all twist it as you like, but the fact that Prost scored more points than Senna, but the title went to Senna, shows who benefited and who not.
          Don’t blame Rosberg for the outcome (if), blame the rules and who wrote them.

          1. Don’t blame Rosberg for the outcome

            I don’t, as I stated in my original comment, he can celebrate his championship if he wants to. It’s just that calling Rosberg the world champion if he wins due to a rule that is beyond stup1d doesn’t sit right with me.

            blame the rules and who wrote them

            I do. It’s unbelievable that the FIA accepted this rule, and my respect for Ecclestone could not be lower.

        2. I bet you Alain Prost didn’t think it fair. And I agree, i think it is just about as bad as double points

      4. @melkurion, dropping your 2 WORST results was a system designed in an era that suffered a lot of mechanical failures to ensure that the DRIVER could still win the championship even with a couple of DNFs, no one race was weighted higher than the others to artificially skew the results. If one looks dispassionately at the rule one can see that it encouraged drivers to race hard rather than drive conservatively to preserve the car, I know which I prefer to watch.

        1. again, i am not saying one rule is fairer than the other, just that rules are rules, and if you make the best of the situation the rules give you, good on you

  5. Well, what else would you expect him to say? “I know that I will not be a real champion if I win the championship because of the double points and I will give my trophy to Lewis”? That will not change the F1 statistics anyway. I am sure that Rosberg would prefer to win the title under a normal points system but he was not the one, who came up with “double the action”.

    This is probably the worst F1 rule ever but I still think that Rosberg is one of the best drivers that F1 has seen during the last 20 years. I believe that he will be a deserving world champion if he wins the title, no matter how.

    1. tgu (@thegrapeunwashed)
      6th November 2014, 15:37

      @girts Exactly, he said the only thing he could say. If he wins he’ll be the 2014 champion. It will be considered a pretty lucky win, and he’ll hardly be considered worthy of the title, but it will still be his. And perhaps people will finally stop moaning about Jacque Villeneuve being the worst WDC! :-$

    2. Yeah, I agree with you there too @girts.

  6. :-)
    “…In sport so much can happen so I’m very optimistic…”

    1. Am I the only one who reads that as him suggesting he may try to pull a Spa-like maneuver again?

  7. Wasn’t this article already included in the news round-up yesterday? Is this so newsworthy it has to be covered for the third time (July-Yesterday-Today)?
    Because If you read the article from July carefully, it clearly says:

    ‘and obviously I will be happy if I win this year’s championship whatever the circumstances.’

    So he said in July he would be a happy man if he wins the championship and the circumstances don’t really matter to much (I think the same goes for Hamilton or any other F1-driver)… Nothing new to report here.

    1. @gdewilde These are different quotes which he gave today, although he did answer a question on similar lines recently which was in the round-up.

  8. Lewis will take this :)

  9. i think the rules are silly but would people still think he was an undeserving champion if we had the old points system and he gained 24 points in the final round due to a hamilton retirement?

    it’s the same for everyone and he should not feel bad about the rules. i bet hamilton would not care either if the situation is reversed. my biggest problem with the double points is that it demeans all the other races. they’re all the same length (except monaco) so it’s just a load of rubbish. urg.

  10. Yeah, he is just a competitive guy and a great racing driver, so he will support double-points so long as they are helping him; don’t hold it against the lad. That doesn’t mean the arbitrary awarding of double points in an artificial attempt to keep the short attention of Johnny-casual-sports-viewer is a good thing. Personally, since the is FIA is guaranteed to be praying that Rosberg doesn’t take the championship through double-points owing to the fact that F1 would promptly implode in a tidal wave of disgust, I don’t really see the point of it all really. Surely even Johnny-casual-sports-viewer can grasp concepts like “illegitimate” and “unsporting”?

  11. “in sport it’s the points that count in the end”

    Nope. It’s how you win them that counts. That’s what makes it sport, and not just a big ego-fest.

    1. Indeed. Gilles Villeneuve is a case in point here.

  12. In my opinion, Lewis deserves to win the WDC this year. Since Spa, Rosberg’s race performances have been mediocre to say the least. And in the early part of the season, his qualifying was also terrible. 3rd in Australia, 3rd in Malaysia, 4th in China. Credit where credit’s due, Rosberg’s qualifying performance has improved a lot and on the level of Hamilton, but he hasn’t improved on anything else, especially his mentality to racing. He hasn’t won a race since Germany! And I think he’s only supporting double points now because he knows that he does not have a chance to beat Lewis on track and his only chance is reliability issues for Lewis and double points.

    1. Rosberg admitted he can’t qualify in the wet. Which is what held him back (and made him spin off) in the early part of the season.

      So he didn’t improve, the weather was different. Just as Hamilton hasn’t really performed worse in the middle of the season, his car just kept breaking down.

  13. Sure Nico…

  14. A conspiracy theory: After the Spa collision and LH’s DNF, and NR’s undisclosed penalty, Toto Wolf said that he did not want the title to be decided by “reliability issues”. With that in mind, some people might think that Mercedes had decided that LH would be the WDC in 2014, because, LH, much more than NR has been affected by the car’s reliability (Australia, Hungary, Germany, Canada). So, the only way that the title can not be decided by reliability issues is if LH is crowned the champion.

    1. Wolff actually claimed that Hamilton and Rosberg were “even” on technical problems though. Ridiculous of course, but that is what he stated after Rosberg had his DNF in Singapore.

  15. It would be a huge shame for the championship to be decided by reliability, but it’s a consequence of Mercedes’ dominance that it necessarily takes on a lot more importance.

    When a 1-2 is by far the most likely result, a driver beating his teammate is worth 14 points (gaining 7 rather than losing 7), whereas making it to the end of the race (in 2nd) is worth 18. So in-race reliability is a bigger factor in this championship than driver ability.

    I say in-race reliability, because Lewis and Nico have shown this season that they can afford a bad but non-race-ending mistake (Rosberg at Sochi), a failure in qualifying (Hamilton in Germany and Hungary), or a bad mistake in qualifying (Hamilton at Silverstone and the Red Bull Ring) which in the end meant finishing 2 places or less behind their teammate in the race.

    You would probably say Rosberg beat Hamilton straight-up on approximately two weekends this year, Monaco and Austria, and of those even Monaco has an asterisk. But sport would be boring if the best team or individual always won. Even if Rosberg wins the championship by taking Lewis out in Abu Dhabi, he will still be the champion.

  16. I don’t like double points but regardless whoever scores the most points will be a deserving champion in my book.

    Lewis has won more races, He has been the faster of the 2 through the season but F1 & motor racing in general is not 100% about those things, Its about who scores the most points over a season.
    Its also not as if Nico hasn’t been quick or consistent, He’s racked up the points, He’s been 2nd what 10 times or something & has driven a good season so regardless of how he was to win it, If he was to win the title he’d be a deserving champion.

    It could also be worse, We could be dealing with that ridiculous system Nascar have implemented this year. I don’t even see how you can class Nascar as a real championship anymore let alone there ‘champion’ been a real champion as he didn’t even need to have scored the most points over a season, In fact the full season doesn’t really matter over there as everything is reset for the final races.

    1. A deserving 2014 champion that could pretty much call 2nd place his home this year. No thanks

  17. This could become a moot argument if Hamilton retires on Sunday, provided Rosberg wins, as Rpsberg will be 1 point ahead so in nearly any scoring system it would be winner takes it all on the Abu Double

  18. If Rosberg wins he’ll be World Champion and I’ll view his accomplishment in the same light as the WWE world championship. Not worth anything as both are a result of fixing by management.

  19. Anyone who’s English and has watched F1 for more than 25 years knows full well this double points thing will cost Lewis the title. You just know he’ll lose it at the last race, it’s just what happens to English F1 drivers.

    1. This is my own fear.

  20. “Rosberg is guaranteed to win the championship is if he wins the final round in Abu Dhabi, which is worth double points, and Lewis Hamilton fails to finish.”
    I’ve seen this a couple times. HAM just needs to finish 11th or worse, but he could still finish.

    1. @amail

      I’ve seen this a couple times. HAM just needs to finish 11th or worse, but he could still finish.

      I never said that wasn’t the case. But Hamilton failing to finish is far likelier than him finishing 11th or worse, as is clear from looking at his results so far this season.

      1. Michael (@freelittlebirds)
        6th November 2014, 21:43

        Scary point but true – in fact a retirement (3 this year) is actually 50% more likely than P2 alone (2) or P3 alone(2) for Lewis. How many wins would he have had without all the issues?

        It’s just insane to think that 10 wins with 2 races to go is a stat that is affected by unreliability.

      2. True if taken on face, but recall he decided there was no point continuing at Spa after limping back with a puncture. If he gets a puncture in Brazil you can bet he will fight tooth and nail to end up in the points instead of retiring.

        1. Yes but Spa is, what, a 1:50 lap and Brazil is closer to 1:20. A puncture at Brazil would be recoverable.

  21. Its not simply the fact of the existing points difference as things stand which sticks.
    Its also the fact that if ROSBERG had not taken Hamilton out in Spa, Hamilton in all likelyhood (given their TRACK records so far this year) would have a further 25 points and Rosberg 7 less. Meaning LH could have won even with a DNF at one of the final two races.
    Add that to the distasteful way that Rosberg celebrated his pole in Monaco after preventing Lewis from competing for it.
    Love him or hate him Lewis Hamilton is a sportsman and only likes to win fairly.
    Hamilton took Rosberg on the outside in the Wet in Spa on the inside in the dry in Austin.
    If F1 is a sport about sportsmanship then Hamilton deserves the Title.

    1. So ignore the fact that he turned up his boost earlier in the season to keep NR behind against team instruction such that he even apologized to the team after taking the win then?

  22. We have to wait and see how the ”double points” system works in action, but I do hope that this system will not be carried over to next year, it’s just kind of unfair system for driver, who’s been better overall throughout the season and has better score to lose just because of 1 race of the 19-race season.

  23. It is unfair to blame the drivers (any driver) for this stupid rule.

    These guys are racers and the biggest thing they can achieve is to win the championship. They take the rules as they are and make the max out of it.

    Most likely all drivers would take the opportunity to be the champion if they were in the same situation where Rosberg is. They might not like the rule, but they would take it. Otherwise they would not compete in that level.

    And as always, the champion is the one who has most points at the end.

  24. It’s pretty obvious that the TV figures the DP fakery was supposed to manipulate have dropped overall, even if the individual Abu Dhabi race spikes up. It’s cost viewers. Because, surprise surprise, it’s made all the other races less important and made the whole competition less genuine.

    Now a lot of people must be desperate not to have a false wdc that would throw such a spotlight on the complete ineptness of Bernie and the others. At least one team voted to keep it, btw. Horner, I’m betting.

  25. The same thing could happen with single points though.

    The problem isn’t so much the double points, but the asymmetrical reliability problems Mercedes has had with Hamilton getting the bulk of them. If that had been more fairly distributed, Hamilton would easily be 50 points ahead going into the last race.

    Problem is that the current points don’t reflect the quality of the drivers. If anything the 1988 rules of dropping a few bad results should be reinstated :)

  26. Wow, What a malicious article! Come on whatever he said if he has a chance to won he is not going to give up! It is obviuos that F1 Fanatic is a kind of “” but come on!

    1. Michael (@freelittlebirds)
      6th November 2014, 21:37

      Well, it’s Nico who is at fault here. He was critical of the double points while he was ahead and now he is done a 180 degree turn.

      1. @freelittlebirds How has he done a 180? Because he hasn’t conceded the championship to Lewis?

        1. Michael (@freelittlebirds)
          7th November 2014, 2:33

          I’m all for Nico fighting – don’t get me wrong. I just don’t like him saying that winning the points is all that matters when he’s lost where it matters the most.

          1. Exactly.

    2. No Paul, it is not pro Hamilton b**s, it is a matter of wanting the best driver in the best car to win and there is no way anyone could say that Rosberg has been the better driver this year.

  27. This whole double points pure bunkery.

    This is far-fetched, but an ideal ending to the season would be Nico or Lewis not making the podium for these next two races. Lewis get his well earned championship, Nico comes back fighting next year and the remaining drivers who have been driving brilliantly this season get a shot at the podium.

    In other word…GO BOTTAS!

  28. I am totally opposed to this gimmick as all right minded F1 people should be.
    I think Rosberg has been outdriven by Hamilton on many occasions this year and has anyone else noticed that since the “driver coaching” stopped in the races he has no answer to Lewis’s pace.
    He admitted it as much after the last race getting his boost buttons wrong or maybe that was just an easy excuse.
    Either way if Rosberg wins the title because of double points he may well be “legitimate” champ but in our hearts we know who the better driver was all year.
    I am a Massa fan so no allegiances from me just opinion.

  29. What makes it unacceptable and silly is that Lewis has won 10 races to Nico’s 4. No matter what happens in the next two races, if a driver wins 10 or more races in a season, they’re pretty much the champ in my eyes.

    Obviously I am biased towards Lewis but I would feel the same way if Nico had the 10 wins.

    1. ColdFly F1 (@)
      7th November 2014, 4:22

      @lew-numba-1, my feeling is similar, but..
      .. it is probably not as simple as that. How many more wins does a driver need to be the Champ. Is it 4, 3, or only 1?
      You probably recall that Massa had more wins than Hamilton in ’08.

      As much as I hate the double points, I will accept whoever gets crowned WDC at the Monaco Ball. He is not necessarily the best driver that season (IMHO), but he got the most points under the rules in place for that season due to skill, car advantage, and/or luck.

      1. I hear you but worth pointing out that Massa only had more wins in 2008 because the stewards served him Spa on a plate. Worst post-race penalty ever.

      2. I agree, it’s not always that simple, but I think THIS season already has a pretty clear winner. I definitely don’t think that a certain amount of wins should mean you’re automatically champ.

        2008 had 7 different race winners, whereas this season has only had 3, so to me it’s a different story. Last year Seb won 13 races, so I’d say the same thing there… if some (widely-panned) rule allowed someone other than him to win, I’d consider that rule to be pretty stupid!

  30. Bla Bla Bla… all this nonsense… It is what it is. There is no point of moaning about the rules as it won’t change a thing. Lets see racing! It’s the only thing that should matter.

    1. Right! It’s the racing that counts. Hamilton has outraced Rosberg at vitually every round this year and can still get screwed out of the championship. That’s why it’s worth moaning about!

  31. everyones mad about double points lol, how about the fact the entire years been a wash because merc had there engines so far in front and no ones even allowed to make changes? lol at least in years past say what you want but facts are facts the RBR was faster the majority of the time but there was tons of races and seasons very close, seasons with 7 different winners in first 7 races and 2 coming down to the last race with multiple people in with a shot at the title, everyone knew before the season started thats into f1 that merc was going to destroy no questions asked, pre season testing proved it, and the entire season has been a complete waste of time and even a bigger waste of hundreds of millions of dollars, not to mention the loss of two possibly three teams, at least before if a team found a advantage the other teams figured it out pretty quick and within a few races all cars were running it, this is the worst season by far in f1, yes vettel dominated a few times during the last few years but alonso almost had him twice, despite u could argue the RBR was faster alonso and the team could make it up, there was no chance of anyone making up anything on merc this year, ive watched every session of f1 since 98, but this year i stopped watching after race 1, i check in from time to time and not at all surprised at what i see, i keep my eyes open for rule changes in the talks and ill watch next pre season tests to see how its going but this is really bad for the sport, double points is the least of the problems, its stupid but the reason people are freaking out it because there are hamilton lovers and afraid he could lose, if he was behind they would love it and it would be the best idea ever, look at last race alone, 35 sec gap between merc and everyone else, just like all year, because no one can do anything to the cars, f1 needs to change fast or will lose more fans

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