Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, Interlagos, 2014

Rosberg says he didn’t need Hamilton’s spin to win

2014 Brazilian Grand Prix lap times and fastest laps

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Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, Interlagos, 2014Lewis Hamilton piled the pressure on Nico Rosberg during the Brazilian Grand Prix, setting the fastest lap and recovering a seven-second deficit at one point.

Nonetheless Rosberg believes he would have won even without Hamilton’s spin on lap 28.

“I was confident, yes, definitely,” he said afterwards, “because already in the first stint I could see that I could control the gap and could just make sure that Lewis didn’t come into the region where he could launch an attack.

“So from that point of view, once I saw that, I was very confident that I could keep on controlling the gap for the whole race.”

Rosberg said he used the opportunity provided by Hamilton’s spin to save his tyres, which was why the gap came down between them during the third stint.

“When Lewis had the spin and was further behind, I saved more tyres than I normally would have done and so that I could just make sure that at the end of the stint I had enough, because it was so critical on tyres today and that worked out really well too.”

On the lap before his spin, Hamilton produced the fastest lap of the race up to that point, seven-tenths of a second quicker than the previous best. After his second pit stop he took 1.7 seconds out of Rosberg in two laps, then consistently chipped away at the gap between them by up to half a second per lap.

But Hamilton couldn’t find a way past in the final stint, and the pair circulated almost as one, occasionally setting near-identical lap times.

Brazilian Grand Prix lap times

All the lap times by the drivers (in seconds, very slow laps excluded):

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/charts/2014drivercolours.csv

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71
Nico Rosberg 80.273 76.412 75.638 75.728 75.794 75.856 81.275 94.087 76.654 75.3 75.896 76.077 76.433 76.125 76.372 76.013 75.956 75.827 75.203 75.301 75.344 75.486 75.238 75.59 75.368 80.615 92.326 75.673 75.441 75.631 75.504 75.28 75.213 75.306 75.322 75.463 75.414 75.554 74.998 75.208 74.893 75.169 74.73 75.095 74.994 74.832 75.049 74.412 74.929 79.93 92.779 74.694 73.961 74.346 73.937 74.187 74.284 74.029 74.214 74.003 73.736 73.619 73.669 74.011 73.781 73.91 73.824 73.788 73.868 73.768 73.92
Lewis Hamilton 81.105 76.841 75.61 75.699 75.715 75.972 76.113 80.715 94.252 75.598 76.364 76.8 76.402 76.435 76.659 75.96 76.09 75.631 75.366 75.21 75.12 75.225 75.172 75.024 75.267 75.139 74.303 86.598 94.376 74.895 74.651 75.294 75.037 75.112 74.986 75.407 75.02 74.986 74.788 74.715 74.606 74.949 74.851 74.79 74.822 74.539 74.679 74.652 74.797 74.893 79.678 91.345 74.159 74.24 74.057 74.024 74.282 73.992 74.181 74.201 73.737 73.555 73.95 73.84 73.595 73.946 73.992 73.649 74.049 73.734 74.576
Felipe Massa 81.964 76.867 76.296 76.188 81.383 93.761 75.99 76.156 76.67 76.313 76.144 76.528 76.398 76.246 76.156 76.951 76.11 76.224 76.036 76.029 76.107 76.463 76.692 76.854 82.366 99.62 74.937 74.902 75.026 75.056 75.307 75.209 75.396 75.43 75.138 75.565 75.107 75.377 75.119 75.086 75.011 74.89 74.982 75.021 75.425 75.24 75.903 75.834 76.504 82.074 95.534 74.566 74.797 74.365 74.225 74.195 74.574 74.487 74.101 74.8 74.41 74.374 74.631 74.573 75.153 74.778 74.42 74.335 74.843 74.655 75.719
Valtteri Bottas 82.574 76.956 76.346 76.508 76.869 81.52 94.611 75.457 76.048 76.764 76.187 76.164 76.514 76.875 76.263 76.198 76.85 76.785 75.86 76.029 76.35 76.253 76.502 76.581 76.494 81.711 105.961 75.574 76.173 75.725 76.254 76.158 75.906 76.325 75.791 76.672 76.065 76.115 78.503 76.14 76.23 84.357 97.011 75.788 75.609 77.28 76.055 76.065 76.433 76.409 76.276 76.137 75.993 75.601 75.405 75.443 75.263 74.996 77.068 74.985 74.471 74.256 74.661 74.229 75.055 75.078 74.45 74.405 74.529 75.453
Jenson Button 83.264 77.2 76.384 76.557 76.778 81.136 94.331 75.973 76.135 76.651 76.992 76.414 76.197 76.415 76.75 76.185 76.319 76.532 76.169 75.877 76.238 76.459 76.357 76.692 77.009 77.429 82.415 93.199 75.405 75.884 75.42 75.731 75.686 75.477 75.742 75.781 75.435 75.565 75.541 75.462 75.36 75.265 75.453 75.295 75.724 75.53 75.752 76.211 76.774 81.636 92.317 74.985 74.84 74.667 74.904 75.072 75.722 75.493 75.829 74.958 75.203 74.198 74.32 74.105 74.411 74.357 74.242 73.999 74.18 74.516 74.709
Sebastian Vettel 85.176 77.744 77.713 77.3 77.333 82.315 94.353 76.838 76.214 76.657 76.609 76.445 76.579 76.792 76.96 76.789 77.39 76.683 76.443 76.196 76.255 75.989 76.691 81.68 92.452 74.949 76.105 75.091 75.405 75.448 75.772 75.727 75.817 75.506 75.633 75.957 75.661 75.399 75.672 75.949 75.469 75.452 75.708 75.476 75.705 75.399 76.27 80.935 92.461 74.781 75.07 75.159 74.908 74.888 74.97 74.684 74.753 75.289 75.543 75.202 75.146 74.745 74.465 74.275 74.679 74.57 74.23 74.018 74.798 74.14 75.1
Kevin Magnussen 84.131 77.545 77.252 77.029 77.258 76.95 81.676 94.184 76.108 76.161 76.17 76.546 76.407 76.745 76.643 76.74 76.95 76.719 76.547 77.035 76.93 77.112 76.274 76.526 76.404 81.415 93.797 74.946 75.453 75.627 75.808 75.986 75.963 75.753 75.749 76.094 75.958 76.137 75.519 75.674 76.429 76.186 75.903 76.293 77.926 76.923 82.565 94.007 75.474 75.361 75.405 75.564 75.218 75.221 75.332 74.792 75.05 74.947 75.139 75.272 74.92 74.544 74.848 74.766 75.054 74.897 76.184 74.943 74.748 75.246 75.562
Fernando Alonso 84.714 77.901 77.462 77.355 77.244 77.092 82.199 94.31 76.291 76.633 76.421 76.554 76.572 76.48 76.63 77.149 76.887 76.498 76.157 76.415 76.611 76.074 77.201 76.62 75.968 76.051 75.959 81.131 93.22 75.686 75.64 76.024 75.757 75.405 75.516 75.701 75.729 76.115 76.635 75.785 75.779 75.491 75.734 76.071 76.254 75.089 75.633 75.219 75.294 75.607 75.321 81.597 92.733 74.664 74.313 74.32 74.32 74.622 74.425 74.577 74.952 74.798 74.347 75.109 75.241 75.845 75.375 75.131 76.088 75.948 74.772
Daniel Ricciardo 85.649 77.704 77.539 77.533 77.531 77.051 81.861 94.235 76.582 76.571 76.705 77.367 77.12 76.995 77.174 76.623 76.318 77.024 76.207 76.246 76.113 76.119 75.989 77.903 75.658 76.154 81.15 92.878 75.51 75.387 75.491 75.521 75.701 75.569 75.655 76.26 75.674 75.923 108.299
Kimi Raikkonen 86.578 78.036 77.744 77.407 77.304 77.653 77.298 82.653 95.322 76.791 76.498 76.376 76.526 76.415 76.605 76.546 76.484 76.786 76.182 76.284 76.462 76.33 76.101 76.415 76.111 76.226 76.001 75.954 76.24 76.081 76.213 76.228 76.295 76.631 81.955 97.965 74.963 75.621 75.856 75.658 75.983 76.476 75.77 75.342 75.496 75.614 75.699 75.634 75.695 75.492 75.768 75.487 75.621 75.469 75.218 75.137 75.708 75.469 75.557 75.448 76.96 75.247 75.459 75.208 75.331 75.609 75.841 76.566 75.892 75.841 75.454
Esteban Gutierrez 86.289 78.03 77.572 77.431 77.191 77.565 77.31 82.704 95.721 78.19 76.749 76.686 76.998 76.807 76.822 76.743 77.268 76.557 76.339 76.479 76.657 76.21 76.543 76.595 76.389 76.731 81.971 96.26 76.349 76.423 76.434 76.295 76.609 75.888 76.041 76.39 76.365 76.291 76.356 75.795 76.286 76.088 75.951 75.887 76.175 76.256 76.178 81.838 94.297 75.284 75.179 75.607 76.056 76.436 76.823 78.256 75.495 75.499 76.353 74.925 75.441 75.214 75.109 74.875 75.305 75.292 75.176 75.602 75.21 75.57
Nico Hulkenberg 87.181 78.581 77.782 77.755 77.247 77.333 77.571 77.438 76.946 76.711 76.83 76.912 77.02 77.596 77.172 82.282 94.768 76.329 75.95 76.685 77.031 76.54 76.57 76.544 76.35 76.415 75.956 75.832 76.088 75.959 75.664 75.753 75.86 75.416 75.623 80.55 93.772 75.574 75.66 75.866 75.958 76.436 75.414 75.295 75.147 75.539 75.377 75.233 75.567 75.325 75.41 75.405 75.526 75.871 75.145 75.418 74.782 75.147 74.942 79.555 92.341 73.99 74.126 74.264 75.085 74.743 74.634 74.121 73.795 73.728 74.058
Adrian Sutil 92.378 78.732 78.091 78.087 77.859 77.596 77.583 77.702 78.302 77.411 77.564 78.334 77.398 78.575 77.748 77.334 78.361 83.558 101.562 76.318 76.691 76.305 76.334 76.531 76.629 76.231 76.196 76.188 75.977 76.171 76.355 76.357 76.385 76.3 76.029 76.44 76.602 76.552 81.854 96.066 77.215 74.834 74.846 75.893 75.238 75.622 75.339 76.158 81.393 95.916 75.46 75.436 74.982 75.262 75.342 75.22 75.322 75.529 75.506 75.182 75.046 75.156 75.069 75.727 75.98 74.984 75.462 75.046 75.417 75.092
Romain Grosjean 88.976 78.698 77.671 78.146 77.318 77.992 78.068 77.414 77.529 78.255 76.991 77.075 77.958 77.344 77.853 77.867 77.22 77.211 77.221 77.03 77.486 77.607 77.782 84.34 97.631 76.495 76.603 76.36 77.013 76.147 76.334 76.201 76.333 75.942 76.102 76.425 77.04 76.405 76.397 81.056 93.79 75.231 75.484 75.371 75.552 75.825 76.345 77.392 76.686 75.695 75.412 75.933 75.505 75.226 75.313 75.146 75.48 75.767 81.613 92.729 74.117 74.175 74.07
Jean-Eric Vergne 90.183 79.181 77.403 77.914 77.297 76.979 77.02 77.057 81.871 95.533 76.886 76.905 76.908 77.261 76.844 76.704 77.034 77 77.23 76.898 76.51 76.718 76.189 76.836 77.006 76.128 81.221 95.514 75.495 75.616 75.904 76.85 76.189 76.607 76.41 76.257 76.133 76.266 76.874 76.775 75.737 75.906 76.111 76.776 75.894 80.864 94.198 75.21 75.998 75.274 75.36 76.007 75.568 75.204 75.552 74.875 75.147 77.034 75.228 75.303 75.129 74.994 76.083 75.019 74.774 75.269 74.872 74.868 75.598 75.919
Pastor Maldonado 90.303 80.112 77.016 82.582 94.436 77.686 76.929 77.358 77.004 77.994 76.965 76.908 77.128 77.239 77.412 77.327 76.811 76.924 77.142 76.839 76.971 77.843 76.771 77.237 77.178 77.284 81.996 93.405 75.574 75.902 77.016 75.91 75.749 75.728 75.929 76.088 75.913 76.121 75.908 76.614 76.538 75.768 75.895 75.746 80.527 93.001 74.81 76.004 76.189 75.434 75.394 75.328 75.482 75.08 75.607 74.965 75.712 74.889 77.089 74.967 75.415 75.209 76.008 75.026 75.077 74.926 74.957 74.848 74.909 76.285
Daniil Kvyat 88.261 78.45 77.567 77.806 77.399 77.584 77.332 77.348 77.211 76.896 77.087 77.882 77.86 77.038 77.018 77.169 77.96 82.013 96.626 76.071 76.848 76.584 75.964 76.502 76.207 75.709 76.045 75.903 76.543 76.428 76.703 76.193 76.118 76.087 76.017 76.486 77.151 81.323 96.188 75.646 75.535 75.339 75.913 75.566 75.826 75.735 75.623 75.581 75.694 75.478 75.22 75.477 75.389 75.877 75.355 75.382 75.22 75.76 80.654 93.96 74.223 74.144 74.661 74.423 75.053 74.977 74.542 74.44 74.898 75.149
Sergio Perez 89.155 78.729 77.808 78.007 82.503 95.015 77.115 77.045 77.026 77.254 77 76.995 76.936 76.922 76.673 76.818 77.388 77 76.836 76.326 76.778 76.561 76.88 77.183 82.021 94.246 75.617 76.093 76.058 76.277 76.683 76.569 76.372 76.189 76.335 76.492 76.389 76.356 76.701 76.257 76.129 76.027 76.198 76.015 76.001 75.878 82.869 100.762 75.576 77.999 76.355 76.088 75.896 75.73 75.274 75.261 75.497 75.027 75.622 75.279 75.172 75.202 74.763 74.874 75.623 74.839 74.773 74.675 74.754 74.55

Brazilian Grand Prix fastest laps

Each driver’s fastest lap:

Rank Driver Car Fastest lap Gap On lap
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1’13.555 62
2 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’13.619 0.064 62
3 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1’13.728 0.173 70
4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’13.999 0.444 68
5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’14.018 0.463 68
6 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1’14.070 0.515 63
7 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1’14.101 0.546 59
8 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso-Renault 1’14.144 0.589 62
9 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1’14.229 0.674 64
10 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’14.313 0.758 55
11 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1’14.544 0.989 62
12 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1’14.550 0.995 70
13 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Renault 1’14.774 1.219 65
14 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault 1’14.810 1.255 47
15 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1’14.834 1.279 42
16 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1’14.875 1.320 64
17 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1’14.963 1.408 37
18 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault 1’15.387 1.832 30

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40 comments on “Rosberg says he didn’t need Hamilton’s spin to win”

  1. Wow, all the drivers’ fastest laps were within two seconds of each other. It’s a shame it wasn’t this close all throughout the race.

    1. @ladekoya you can even say 1.5 seconds given that Daniel obviously had more time in hand on new tyres (he’d have pitted one more time before retiring).

      The short track helps, or maybe they were all racing to the capabilities of the tyre

  2. Yeh right, he controlled it so well that there was only 0.5sec between them when Hamilton came out after their last stops. With 1 lap undercut and 7sec before that, it’s poor from Rosberg to now say that.
    Had it not been for strategists keeping Lewis out for 2 laps, he would be asking himself again where was his speed.

    1. Hahaha!

      What he means is: “I’m embarrassed Lewis was able to close a 7 mins deficit in the same car so quickly.
      I don’t know where he gets the speed from”.

      1. Michael (@freelittlebirds)
        10th November 2014, 21:12

        @supremacy well, not quite a 7 minute deficit – at least in F1 terms:-)

  3. Hmm I would beg to differ but then we’re never going to know, A well deserved win nonetheless & restrengthens his title chances.

  4. This time I don’t believe in Nico, if Lewis didn’t spin, because the lap he did was a 1.14.3, which was 6 tenths quicker than Vettel’s lap, which was the fastest up to that point.. If Lewis didn’t spin, he most likely was to rejoin ahead of Nico. Definitely, Lewis paid the price with that spin..

    1. yep if he had come out ahead there would have been no way back for rosberg as hamilton was quicker, just couldnt get close enough to overtake.

  5. Lewis would have won the race without doubt if he had not had that spin. There would have been no gap for Nico to ‘maintain’ as he would have been chasing from 2nd place.

  6. “So from that point of view, once I saw that, I was very confident that I could keep on controlling the gap for the whole race.”

    I wouldn’t call letting Hamilton within half a second ‘controlling the gap’, one little mistake and he could have passed.

  7. Rosberg may be right, but only because of a strategic error from Merc. Lewis had the gap he needed after one lap, having taken all of the life out of his tyres on that single lap as he thought he would be in that lap. Merc told him to do one more lap, there was no life left in the tyres and he spun. Even without the spin, he probably wouldn’t have held the gap he needed so Rosberg may still have been ahead, but had Merc called Lewis in a lap earlier he would have easily come out ahead and Rosberg would not have won.

    1. I totally agree with you Jake. Would be interesting to hear or see the transcript of the radio messages of both Mercs drivers and the team; esp. Lewis’s. Lewis did say… you told me to attack then my tyres went off…(or words to that affect) after that he wasn’t interested in over taking Rosberg and settled for second – I think he felt the snide was in already. Yes he’s going to blame himself. Before the race Nico did say he needed something from his team mate. lets see if he gives me something. I wonder if that little something was the extra lap that saw Lewis spin off.

  8. We’ll never know for sure, but maths don’t add up, really. Lewis was just about to leapfrog Nico after the stops.

    But I’ve got to say I didn’t expect Rosberg to stay ahead once Hamilton got within a second. 10 laps or so with both nose to tail, I was just expecting Lewis to pass just like at Austin or Suzuka. But he didn’t, kudos to him for hanging on there

    1. Austin has a very long straight which makes it easier. Brazil doesn’t so you have to be really close before the DRS to make an attack. And the middle sector you need downforce which you lose when you follow someone so close, so Nico used that opportunity to build a small gap which ensured Lewis wouldn’t be close enough for DRS. Abu Dhabi though is a different track with a very long straight so if this was Abu Dhabi DRS would have definitely helped Lewis overtake.

      1. I disagree. I even feel it’s easier to overtake at the Brazilian main straight (which is not really straight but about as long as in Austin). We did see quite a lot of highway passes yesterday, more than in Austin. The last corner before the straight is faster in Brazil than it is in Austin, making it easier (in Brazil) to stay close to the one in front and overtake.

        1. Not when you have identical cars with equal strength in the same area. The race was won during qualifying effectively.

        2. It was difficult to overtake even SLOWER cars on OLD tyres.

          That is what saves Nico in the end.
          “After deliberately allowing Lewis to be 0.5 secs behind…. :D”

  9. Rosberg finally won a race again. A much needed boost for the final battle in Abu Dhabi.

    But Hamilton outpaced him so grossly, he was so insanely faster that this boost Rosberg got for the win meant little. Or nothing.

    Hamilton will be WC, and i hope he improves his game on qualifying for next year. If it wasn’t for his not to good Saturdays, the title would already be his, even with double points in the last race.

    1. Why was NICO swearing when he left the podium??????

      1. Nicole stole the show.

      2. Nico was swearing because actually the plan didn’t work. Keeping Lewis out that extra lap and his engineer (or whoever was on the radio to him) telling him to push, knowing full well the tyres were at their end was a calculated ploy to see Lewis crash out of the race totally and wipe-out the deficit between Nico & himself. – Nico would be a point ahead and a only a win in Abu D would, for either driver would snatch it.; I believe (regardless of accusations of “conspiracy theories”) Lewis was not suppose to finish that race – full stop! FAILED PLAN – hence the swearing…

        1. ILLUMINATI, ILLUMINATI EVERYWHERE

    2. I doubt that Nico has the most poles this season, and Hamilton has the most wins. That tells me that Saturday wasn’t the reason for Hamilton not locking the WDC, but the several car failures instead. Breaks, engine and so on…

      1. brakes*

    3. The difference between Ham and Ros in quali and race is interesting. Hamilton is generally so much quicker in the race, it almost seems as though he is deliberately sacrificing his quali pace to be quick in the race.

      1. He probably runs a setup that is better for the race but loses him out on quali, though I doubt this because the margin he loses out to nico is so little that it just proves Nico is better preparing himself on Saturday.

      2. Lewis has never been the “qualy king” as many have suggested. He is good, but not excellent. The reason why people thought he was good in qualy was because all his past teammates were not that good in qualy. He was for example matched with Alonso in 2007 qualy. The same Alonso whose qualy pace is regarded as his weakest point. It is his race pace that is excellent. Just like Alonso, it it his ability to adapt his technique as the race progresses that sets him apart. The ability to push to, but not beyond, the limit, while saving tires and fuel. Rosberg, Botton and Vettel will only excel within a certain car behaviour bandwidth, outside of which their speed drops.

        1. You must give credit where credit is due: Nico Rosberg is excellent in producing nearly perfect laps, whether they are in qualifying or in race trim. He has done so in several races. But over the course of a complete GP, Hamilton is usually better/faster.

          1. I have no idea why you think I don’t give Nico the credit? Or would you prefare me to say it explicitly? Lewis is a good qualifier, but Nico is a step ahead( not by much, mind you). He is up there with Vettel. Race trim is a different story. Nico, like Vettel and Button struggle to drive around problems and general car dynamics thought out the race. Lewis and Alonso are the best in this regard. This is why Alonso found it hard to beat Lewis back in 2007 because they have the same strengths.

        2. Lewis has often said he never considered qualifying one of his biggest strengths. Plus I believe Mercedes have spend time trying to solve Rosberg’s braking issues but Hamilton hasn’t complained about anything much since he often drives around problems.

  10. I think clearly the adrenaline is affecting his thoughts. the spin cost Lewis around 6 seconds and Rosberg wasn’t ahead by 6 seconds after Lewis’ stop. Nico will not win the title because he cant beat him in a straight fight

    1. @scuderia_fan85
      He beat him in a straight fight in both Austria and today in Brazil. He also beat Lewis in a straight fight many times in 2013.

    2. Rosberg was actually 7.5 seconds ahead after Hamilton went for his pit stop.

      To win Hamillton would have to leapfrog Rosberg on that stop. If not, the only difference it would make is the number of laps that he’d be less than a second behind Nico and not able to do a thing.

      1. Rosberg was actually 7.5 seconds ahead after Hamilton went for his pit stop.

        However much it was, Sky’s analysis after the race put HAM just ahead of ROS if he had not done the extra lap.

        To win Hamillton would have to leapfrog Rosberg on that stop. If not, the only difference it would make is the number of laps that he’d be less than a second behind Nico and not able to do a thing.

        I believe HAM would have passed ROS even if he had come out just behind. 20 extra laps of nose-to-tail battles would likely have brought about a pass. If not, HAM would likely have put in another stonking lap just before his pitstop as he was released into clean air, which would have likely put him just ahead just after.

        I believe that a strategic mistake by Merc cost HAM the win. This is just my opinion.

    3. What exactly counts as a “straight fight”. This statement would have made more sense before yesterday. Nico was P1 in FP, Qualy and the race and Lewis never had any problems. The fight yesterday was as straight as can be and Lewis came second best.

  11. Rosberg waa indeed managing the gap, it’s true that Lewis recovered seven seconds but in the end he couldn’t attack as it was clear he had no more tyre life.

    1. @fixy
      You seem to be mixing up the stints here.

      Nico’s ‘intelligence’ told him it’s better to maintain a 0.5 sec gap than 7.2 secs one?
      Very ‘intelligent’ indeed!

  12. Amazing that a sport can generate so much paranoia in a person’s opinion and that such concocted stories are generated to support the situation. GO Nico GO, Thanks, Norris

  13. This statement makes no sense. He was managing a cap that became non existent? There was no cap at the end of the race. If he was managing it he would have left a cap and not having the other breathing down his neck.

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