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Ricciardo wants to “get Monaco win back” in Singapore

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@Mantresx doubts Daniil Kvyat will find a seat next year:

Right now is when the contracts for the midfield teams are signed and they base their decision on recent good performances and obviously budget, he has neither.
That’s why the likes of Perez, Sainz and Stroll are highly sought after but not someone like Palmer or Magnussen.

Unless he has a real solid offer right now I think it’ll be very difficult for him to be driving next year.

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  • 53 comments on “Ricciardo wants to “get Monaco win back” in Singapore”

    1. Wow Mexico, that must be the biggest crowd since last OZ gp at Adelaide 1995?

      1. Oh. Just read full weekend, not raceday.

      2. It’s still a credible all-weekend performance, sounding like it is in the same ballpark as Austria’s first year back on the calendar. (Which given that this is the second year of Mexico’s return, is very good).

        1. @alianora-la-canta, actually, it would be substantially higher than the attendance figures for the return of the Austrian GP – because of the limitations of the transport network in that area, they had to restrict the race weekend attendance figures to 225,000.

    2. Did anyone read that apparently somebody finally uncovered what Mercedes is doing suspension wise? Aldo Costa’s department keeps delivering the goods. I hope somebody clarifies the rules on such devices, 2017 is coming.

      1. I agree with cotd. I still believe in Kvyat though, I think he’s got to get his feet on the ground again, he need to eat a piece of humble pie, do as told and entrust the team. I feel his driving style should suit the 2017 regulations.

      2. @peartree
        Perhaps Ferrari should have thought twice about sacking him

      3. Could you share the link for that article? @peartree

      4. Yeah really interested in where you heard that.

      5. You have a very insightful article on German Auto Motor und Sport web site ( for me that’s just bla bla… ). Well, I don’t find it rocket science at all. It’s a very logical solution from the viewpoint of engineers who worked a lot on FRIC system. When it was banned to apply it with the aim to control pitch the logical area of attention was roll control. The positive is that it cannot be declared illegal because suspension transfers the load of lateral forces trough the roll bars from one side of the suspension to another ( if it is banned, the next thing is roll bar ban and hence suspension ban…). This system is completely passive and improves roll control. Yeah, it has to be mathematically modeled as everything else is, especially when it comes to suspension’s feedback and influence of tyre pressures to fine tune it. That’s the greatest benefit ’cause Pirelli is doing insane things with tyre pressures this year… F1 is a good fun, for engineers especially!

      6. @peartree I still laugh at Ferrari for throwing Aldo Costa to the curb.

        Look at him now… Aldo Costa 3 WCC, Ferrari 0 WCC.

        1. @jureo That’s scars from the end of Montezemolo’s reign, it’s a shame really.

    3. I love how a country run by cartels has an F1 race.

      1. I love how a country run by a dictator has the Miss Universe 3 times in 10yrs.

        Not related; but I still ‘love it’.

        1. @coldfly Love how Miss Universe has been won 100% by Earth, seems rigged too.

      2. Are u talking about the Austin GP?

        1. Mexico I presume

          1. Yes, he is talking about Mexico. That is a country that has had serious problems with drug cartels for some time now.

      3. I love how an island country run by authoritarian rulers who use torture and murder to have their way has a Grand Prix put on for its elite members, and a country that just so happens to be the most populated country which executes 5,000 people a year and has a morally and financially corrupt government, steals and reverse engineers technology, has an appalling and careless pollution record, has stolen millions of jobs from Western nations (including the USA) and where capitalism has run amuck to such an extreme degree that there is practically no hope insight.

        1. *in sight also has a Grand Prix.

        2. The Island country you refer to must be the UK yes?

    4. Really Hope Danny Ric does get a win. Still think a Merc will trounce the field even after their talking down of winning.

      1. I have mixed feelings about that @johns23, on the one hand it would be good to have another driver win it on merit this year, and Ricciardo has had our collective DotW vote four times already, so he’d be the one to deserve it, and I understand his feelings too. On the other hand, karma, well, Red Bull lost Monaco fair and square all by themselves, nothing underhand that Mercedes did – him saying that about payback almost makes me wish Verstappen takes it from him. Is that mean?

        But I also wouldn’t be surprised if Mercedes nails Singapore and has an uncontested 1-2, with some way behind a close fight between Red Bull and Ferrari, or something.

        1. He never said anything about Mercedes doing something under hand, he made very clear that his team lost him this win, justified! Why someone would want to deny him his well deserved redemption is beyond me

          1. There’s not a thing wrong about rooting for Ric to win but talking about Ric, he doesn’t deserve redemption, a win at one race because his team screwed up earlier in another. You just go to the next race and move on. The don’t deserve to win the Stanley cup just because they failed as a team. You win and lose as a team. No is wasn’t Ric’s fault at Monaco but neither was the Flyers loss in 1987 the fault of Ron Hextall the goalie who won the Stanley Cup mvp, despite losing to Edmonton. Based on this logic, Hextall deserves a cup win or individual on a team that perfoms well?

            1. I mean’t, (The Flyers) in my first sentence after, You just go to the next race and move on.

        2. I wonder if Lewis could have had two runs during Q3, instead of just one at Monaco, and would he have taken pole position instead of Ricciardo?

        3. I wonder if Lewis could have had two runs during Q3, instead of just one at Monaco, and would he had taken pole position instead of Ricciardo?

        4. Actually Hamilton cutting turn 11 on his outlap was pretty underhanded.

        5. So Ric deserves punishment for mentioning that a bit of Karma would be nice and so Ves deserves another win…
          I’d hate to get on your bad side.

      2. I think it will be a Red Bull weekend in Singapore. @johns23
        Even forgetting about 2015, Mercedes was just 0.2sec faster than FER/RBR in 2014.
        And according to the relative development analysis on this site RBR has found some 0.7sec extra vs Merc since last year (comparing the gap after ITA last year – 1.6s – to the gap after GER this year – 0.9s).

        1. In 2014, Mercedes were only 0.2sec faster in Qualifying. The race was a different story however. After the safety car, on older tyres than the two Red Bulls behind, Hamilton was pulling away at around 2-3 seconds a lap.

          I do agree it will be closer this year though, just clarifying that 2014 race.

          1. “The race was a different story however. After the safety car, on older tyres than the two Red Bulls behind, Hamilton was pulling away at around 2-3 seconds a lap.”

            That was because he was pushing as he knew he was going to pit again where as the drivers immediately behind were running to the end. Those 2-3 seconds was not a true reflection of Mercedes race pace vs the rest of the field


    5. Something wrong with the water in Singapore? First Button about catching Ferrari and now Ricciardo talking about Karma etc? You blundered the strategy and didn’t even put pressure on Hamilton for him to make a mistake.

      Hamilton moaned less about the previous Monaco GP. Get over it. It only makes you sound desperate.

      1. He did nothing wrong and for sure not blunder the strategy, his team screwed up his pitstop big time, did you even watch the race

        1. Did you watch the race? Did he ever get close to Hamilton to get him make a mistake? The team made a switch to SS at the last moment which caused the delay in the pits. But they also provided him with the very car that was capable of taking pole.

          Simply hanging on one point/mistake isn’t going to make him dear to the team.

          Win and lose as one entity.


          1. Did he ever get close to Hamilton to get him make a mistake?

            Did you watch the race? It was quiet clear Ricciardo was pressuring Hamilton to the point where Hamilton had to cut the chicane and then cut across him to ensure he remained in the lead. Not to mention Hamilton himself said he was under pressure from Ricciardo the whole race when they were on the podium.

            1. Certainly not enough to take the win then. If he was doing repeatedly, then he would have been penalised, which he wasn’t. And Lewis was going to milk the win all he can. Winning with a slower car is definitely seen as better value esp when it is not your teammate.

              Ricciardo had a huge lead before Mercedes decided to leave Hamilton out of the Rosberg train. I can accept these in the immediate aftermath of the race. No after months.

              Move on.

    6. @Mantresx It doesn’t mean Kvyat can’t find a backer does it? SMP has been enthusiastically spilling rubles across all forms of motorsport since 2013, and have even contracted the services of Mika Salo as “Sporting Director” for the SMP Racing project. Salo wants an SMP Racing-affiliated F1 driver to complete the ladder, and whilst the man they have backed in anticipation is Sergey Sirotkin, with him unlikely to be on the grid anytime soon, why not Kvyat?

      I also think there is a tacit suspicion of Gasly. He did spend his first two years in higher formula racing without being a factor in the championship or even winning a race; not normally the kind of result that endears oneself to Mr Marko. For comparison, Sainz looked like FR3.5 champion elect from his first race in 2014, and in Vandoorne’s first two seasons of higher formula racing he collected eight wins and was second in the standings on both occasions. Yes Gasly is in a rich vane of form at the moment, but he ought to be, given he has been racing at that level since the start of 2014. Whereas whilst Kvyat is undeniably in a performance rut at the moment, there is unquestionably an immensely respectable racing driver at the other end of it – and I think the teams that look at his career with a broader lens should recognize that.

      I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Kvyat pops up at Sauber next year.

      1. To add to your arguement, it is enough to look at Gasly’s rookie teammate (and where he is in the championship) to see that Pierres turn in form has at least as much to do with their team really having nailed it this year, as it is with his own improvement @william-brierty.

        1. Precisely @bascb, Giovannazi has been a revelation. Twelve months ago the talented Italian, who probably spent one too many seasons in European F3 without winning the title, would have bitten off your arm if you’d offered him a DTM drive. Now he is first rookie to mount a credible challenge on the GP2 title since 2009, and despite perhaps being in part flattered by the stunning sweet spot PREMA have found in the Dallara GP2/11, he has no less been remarkable versus his more experienced teammate. Moreover, since Baku he has looked F1 calibre and Ferrari should not be afraid to mention his name in the same sentence as Charles Leclerc.

      2. @william-brierty Yeah, I guess it’s possible but it all depends on how good his management team and how actively they’re looking for deals like that.

        And I just get the feeling that being sponsored by Red Bull all this years Kvyat just isn’t used to look for backers and be the face for them. In F1 these days focusing just on racing is not good enough unless you’re an exceptional talent.

        1. @mantresx I’m not actually aware if Kvyat has much of a management team. Verstappen doesn’t as such; he was picked up by Marko before he really ever had any need for one. No doubt he now has a small army managing him.

          Kvyat must have someone fighting his corner: the rumours linking him with Williams are not going away and Marko is yet to be anything other than suppotive on the topic of Daniil. And if it comes to budget, he’s not Spanish or Canadian or worst still, Italian, he’s Russian, it wouldn’t take a commercial genius to find him a backer.

          Call it intuition: I think Kvyat will be on the grid next year. If, as you say, the purpose of Toro Rosso is to supply the top team with a fresh stream of future champions, there is no point replacing Kvyat until Marko finds his next champion. I don’t think Gasly is that driver.

          1. I agree with you that if there is a budget available in Russia that is not earmarked for someone else through their families connections, it will probably be on the table to get Kvyat a drive @william-brierty. I tend to agree with you that keeping Kvyat in the STR might be a better plan than promoting Gasly (maybe Marko is disappointed that the other Prema car doesn’t run with their colours, a Sainz – Giovanazzi line-up would be a treat :-) )

            But you are almost certainly wrong about Verstappen and his management – Jos was doing that job, and he was already talking to several teams, including serious talks with Mercedes, before Marko/Red Bull signed him on the promise of the 2015 race deal.

            1. @bascb My concern is Giovanazzi has been F1 worthy for all of three months now, whilst most junior graduates have a portfolio of a number of years fighting for the top positions. I would at least like Antonio to consolidate the form he has chanced on with PREMA with an impressive F1 test or the like.

              In terms of Max, Jos was negotiating deals for him, but as I say, nobody was managing him professionally; albeit I’m sure Jos was a more than respectable negotiator! As a Red Bull driver now and with a fandom all of his own, he is probably going to have to get all of his staff unionized!

    7. Sauber hire a Ferrari strategist. Ok, Singapore GP- Nasr 4 stop and Ericsson 5 stop. Wow guys. Ferrari are so damn rich but can’t get a normal strategist.

      1. Ruth Buscombe is the strategist who helped Haas get their first points at Australia. You could almost argue that her absence at Ferrari influenced their strategy that lost Vettel the race.

        1. And it is pretty clear that Haas has been less spot on with their race strategies since she left too @phylyp, @godoff1.

          1. Sorry… Never knew that! Well ok. Still, Ferrari are rich.but have some dumb strategy people.

            1. yup, at Ferrari it seems that their management methods and people skills are what is holding them back the most. The likes of Newey etc just don’t even want to have a go, and many solid engineers (Allison, DaCosta etc) have been thrown out or left of their own choosing over the years because of it.

    8. It’s good to hear that the Mexican GP has become so popular. As some who lives in North America(California) I think I would be tempted to go to that GP instead of COTA, it seems to be a more fun atmosphere. Especially that epic stadium section for the race and the podium.

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