Hamilton leads close first session in Monaco

27 comments on “Hamilton leads close first session in Monaco”

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   Silviu (@asilviug)
   25th May 2017, 10:29

   Somebody enlighten me why nobody runs Q3 all 10 minutes without going in. Is it tyre degradation, fuel or rule restriction?
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      Lewis McMurray (@celicadion23)
      25th May 2017, 10:33

      a mix of tyre deg and fuel, mostly fuel. Drivers are usually only fuelled for an out lap, a timed lap and an in lap so the car is as light as possible. Very rarely drivers will fuel for two flying laps but never a full session. The early laps would be a waste as the car will be heavier in the early laps and not as quick, then in the later laps by the time the excess fuel has burned off the tyres will be useless anyway
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      Joao (@johnmilk)
      25th May 2017, 10:35

      @asilviug to do that you have to put more fuel in, hence more weight, so the cars would be slower, by the time they reach an ideal amount of fuel the tyres won’t have as much grip anymore, so basically they would waste 10 mins just going around without posting any meaningful times.

      I think this answer your question?
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         Silviu (@asilviug)
         25th May 2017, 10:44

         it does but it still doesn’t make sense to me because I always see mistakes in Q3 and it seems a clean lap (with a heavier car and used tires ) still better than a lap with mistakes. I also see drivers putting relevant times on + 20 old tires during the race. Maybe 10 kilos extra could be an issue and lose you 0.2-0.3 but if you find the perfect lap….
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            Joao (@johnmilk)
            25th May 2017, 11:00

            that’s true, but out of 10 drivers maybe 2-3 make mistakes on their two runs. Imagine Ham or Seb starting P7, that wouldn’t be any good for their aspirations.

            Also it makes them dependent on other drivers mistakes if they go for the whole 10 mins, if there isn’t any, P10 would be the best out of it.

            And if they all went into that scenario, some would start to do low fuel laps and get the reward out of it, eventually they all would start doing that again.

            They usually do two runs, even if they make a mistake in one, they have another to compensate. It always the best way to take performance out of the car
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      Ninjenius (@ninjenius)
      25th May 2017, 10:38

      Tyre allocation/degradation. Although round here it looks like it’s possible to go as fast if not quicker on the second flying lap. I think the drivers should be given one or two bonus sets of tyres to use for Q3, so we stop having this inevitable 5-6 minutes of inactivity from the front-runners after their first Q3 attempts.
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      Mark G (@)
      25th May 2017, 11:24

      With the hybrid power units the drivers also only have full power for one lap at a time.

      It’s easier for the strategists and the drivers to stick to their out-lap, fast lap in-lap routine to ensure their car is in the optimum window for those fast laps.
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   AliceD (@aliced)
   25th May 2017, 10:29

   If these results are the same after qualy, then I will feel sorry for Bottas, in between the two red bull kamikazes.
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      gdewilde (@gdewilde)
      25th May 2017, 10:50

      Ricciardo a kamikaze? or do you mean as in: late braker = kamikaze?
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   John H (@john-h)
   25th May 2017, 10:33

   The sad thing is I expect Kimi to be this far off Vettel. It’s just not a surprise anymore.
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      ECWDanSelby (@ecwdanselby)
      25th May 2017, 10:40

      He’s lost that killer instinct since joining Ferrari, I think. Last we saw of it was in the Lotus. Shame, really.
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         Scottie Stewart (@ocscottie)
         25th May 2017, 10:44

         Its frustrating watching Kimi not be where he “should” be on the grid consistently.
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         Philip (@philipgb)
         25th May 2017, 12:02

         I do wonder if his back surgery has had any impact.
      3. 

         PorscheF1 (@xtwl)
         25th May 2017, 12:14

         Or, is Vettel just that much better…
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         THOMF1S (@thomf1s)
         25th May 2017, 13:21

         I always wonder if that Lotus in 2012/13 was the best car on the grid…and the drivers underperformed. I think this more and more having seen kimi be outperformed by consecutive team mates at Ferrari.
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      HUHHII (@huhhii)
      25th May 2017, 10:59

      It’s FP1. His weekend is far from over at this point.
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         John H (@john-h)
         25th May 2017, 11:57

         You’re right. Actually, Kimi has usually been quite quick in FP1 this season and then faded through the weekend, so maybe we will see the opposite this time @huhhii
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      Nigel
      25th May 2017, 11:51

      At this point he is just collecting a paycheck. He has been like this for a while now.
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      Fukobayashi (@)
      25th May 2017, 13:26

      He needs to vacate that seat for someone who’s going to do something with it.
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         Nigel
         25th May 2017, 15:45

         Agreed. Perez in red would be something.
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   Hugh (@hugh11)
   25th May 2017, 11:04

   Toro Rosso’s looking intriguingly quick, used the super softs rather than ultra softs…
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      Juan Fanger
      25th May 2017, 11:24

      Here’s to hoping that they’re right up there in qualifying. Would be fantastic to see.
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      Sederman (@sederman)
      25th May 2017, 12:20

      I think there could be some mistake with Toro Rossos. Their best times are .5 second quicker than their SS best times, so I suppose they’ve had US laps as well.
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   tonyyeb (@tonyyeb)
   25th May 2017, 11:06

   ” In contrast there was 1.3 seconds between Williams’ experienced Felipe Massa in 11th and rookie Lance Stroll in 16th” – It was actually less than a second difference. @keithcollantine
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   Gary
   25th May 2017, 14:16

   I’m impressed that Stroll was only one second off Massa and yet didn’t crash into the barriers.
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      Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
      25th May 2017, 14:21

      Maybe don’t read the second practice results then…
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         Nigel
         25th May 2017, 15:46

         +1. Haha……

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