Ricciardo quickest in another interrupted session

2017 Hungarian Grand Prix second practice

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Daniel Ricciardo was quickest again in the second practice session for the Hungarian Grand Prix after more red flags flew at the Hungaroring.

The Red Bull driver went just three-hundredths of a second faster than he had in the morning session as several drivers struggled to improve their lap times on a hotter track.

Hungarian Grand Prix practice in pictures
Just two-tenths of a second covered Ricciardo, Sebastian Vettel’s Ferrari and the Mercedes of Valtteri Bottas by the time the chequered flag dropped.

Kimi Raikkonen was fourth-quickest following a brief stoppage in his Ferrari. He lost throttle response in his SF70-H after making a settings change, but was able to continue shortly afterwards.

Behind the top three teams there was a large gap to Nico Hulkenberg’s Renault in seventh place. Both McLarens appeared inside the top ten, separated by the Toro Rosso of Carlos Sainz Jnr. However Stoffel Vandoorne had to drive slowly into the pits with an apparent problem.

As in the first practice session there were two stoppages duo to drivers hitting trouble. Pascal Wehrlein made heavy contact with the turn 11 barriers after his Sauber snapped sideways.

Jolyon Palmer damaged his Renault for the second session in a row. He lost control at the final corner and wrecked the right-rear of his car against a barrier.

Pos. No. Driver Car Best lap Gap Laps
1 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-TAG Heuer 1’18.455 32
2 5 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1’18.638 0.183 28
3 77 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1’18.656 0.201 33
4 7 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1’18.755 0.300 28
5 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1’18.779 0.324 31
6 33 Max Verstappen Red Bull-TAG Heuer 1’18.951 0.496 25
7 27 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1’19.714 1.259 33
8 14 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Honda 1’19.815 1.360 31
9 55 Carlos Sainz Jnr Toro Rosso-Renault 1’19.834 1.379 35
10 2 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren-Honda 1’19.909 1.454 18
11 31 Esteban Ocon Force India-Mercedes 1’20.126 1.671 34
12 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1’20.266 1.811 33
13 26 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso-Renault 1’20.577 2.122 37
14 18 Lance Stroll Williams-Mercedes 1’20.791 2.336 31
15 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1’20.869 2.414 22
16 30 Jolyon Palmer Renault 1’21.175 2.720 12
17 20 Kevin Magnussen Haas-Ferrari 1’21.345 2.890 11
18 8 Romain Grosjean Haas-Ferrari 1’21.504 3.049 25
19 9 Marcus Ericsson Sauber-Ferrari 1’21.559 3.104 31
20 94 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber-Ferrari 1’21.722 3.267 16

Second practice visual gaps

Daniel Ricciardo – 1’18.455

+0.183 Sebastian Vettel – 1’18.638

+0.201 Valtteri Bottas – 1’18.656

+0.300 Kimi Raikkonen – 1’18.755

+0.324 Lewis Hamilton – 1’18.779

+0.496 Max Verstappen – 1’18.951

+1.259 Nico Hulkenberg – 1’19.714

+1.360 Fernando Alonso – 1’19.815

+1.379 Carlos Sainz Jnr – 1’19.834

+1.454 Stoffel Vandoorne – 1’19.909

+1.671 Esteban Ocon – 1’20.126

+1.811 Sergio Perez – 1’20.266

+2.122 Daniil Kvyat – 1’20.577

+2.336 Lance Stroll – 1’20.791

+2.414 Felipe Massa – 1’20.869

+2.720 Jolyon Palmer – 1’21.175

+2.890 Kevin Magnussen – 1’21.345

+3.049 Romain Grosjean – 1’21.504

+3.104 Marcus Ericsson – 1’21.559

+3.267 Pascal Wehrlein – 1’21.722

Drivers more then ten seconds off the pace omitted.

Drivers’ best times by tyres

Driver Team Best super-soft time Super-soft gap Best soft time Soft gap
Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1’23.030 4.575 1’18.779
Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1’18.656 0.201 1’19.546 0.767
Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1’18.455 1’19.005 0.226
Max Verstappen Red Bull 1’18.951 0.496 1’19.383 0.604
Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1’18.638 0.183 1’19.698 0.919
Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1’18.755 0.3 1’20.038 1.259
Sergio Perez Force India 1’20.266 1.811 1’21.263 2.484
Esteban Ocon Force India 1’20.126 1.671 1’21.389 2.61
Felipe Massa Williams 1’33.916 15.461 1’20.869 2.09
Lance Stroll Williams 1’20.791 2.336 1’21.466 2.687
Fernando Alonso McLaren 1’19.815 1.36 1’20.485 1.706
Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren 1’19.909 1.454 1’20.777 1.998
Carlos Sainz Jnr Toro Rosso 1’19.834 1.379 1’20.600 1.821
Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 1’20.577 2.122 1’20.742 1.963
Romain Grosjean Haas 1’23.968 5.513 1’21.504 2.725
Kevin Magnussen Haas 1’21.345 2.89 72’56.096 4297.317
Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1’19.714 1.259 1’20.896 2.117
Jolyon Palmer Renault 1’21.175 2.72 1’22.474 3.695
Marcus Ericsson Sauber 1’21.559 3.104 1’22.301 3.522
Pascal Wehrlein Sauber 1’21.722 3.267 1’22.317 3.538

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38 comments on “Ricciardo quickest in another interrupted session”

  1. Seems Riccardo upgrades are the right ones!

    1. Let’s hope they can keep the pace for Quali!

    2. Verstappen has the same upgrades on his car. He’s just getting his ass handed to him by RIC.

      He said he’s struggling to get “the right feeling” and that the red flags didn’t help.

      1. Did you missed the last five races/free practices? Lots of red flags indeed.. let see saterday.

        1. I’m saying that VES has been half a second slower in both sessions without having an (mechanical) excuse for it during this GP, not the previous ones.

          But since you asked:

          5. Britain: RIC qualifying problems, starts from back but still finishes just 1 position of VES
          4. Astria: RIC outqualifies VES and gets on the podium. VES has bad start and retires due to a lap 1 crash
          3. Baku: Despite starting 10th RIC is right up there with some great overtakes again and then get’s lucky with
          HAM/VET running into problems. VES retires due to mechanical issue.
          2. Canada: VES outqualifies RIC but retires due to mechanical issue, RIC gets on the podium again.
          1. Monaco: VES out qualifies RIC but RIC shows great pace and overcuts him for the podium.

          So, in two out of five (Monaco and Austria Q) RIC was the better performer anyway. In two races, Canada and Baku, it’s impossible to tell what would have happened with VES had he not retired but we do know RIC was absolutely on it. And at the final one, RIC was on it again and we missed a potentially awesome battle between him and VES for 4th (one in which I’d put my money on RIC).

          Overall I’d say RIC is doing a better job than VES regardless of his unlucky retirements. The gap in points might have been smaller if VES had better reliability but RIC would have still dominated him.

          1. Its about time he’s having a good weekend because until now its been all Ver. Anyway, lets see tomorrow!

          2. ahm… Ricciardo was behind in 9 out of 10 races…

            Aus > obviously Ver as Ric crashed in Q3
            Chi > obviously Ver as he overtook Ric from P17 within 10 laps
            Bah / Rus > Ver again, overtook Ric at both Bahrain and Sochi
            Esp > ehm had be Ver again as Ric was 0.5 sec behind in quali..damn that crash as Ver overtok both Rai and Boat..nearly
            Mon > ehm..Ver faster in all FP’s and all Q’s, in front of the race, that wasn’t an overcut, but a strategic move from the team.
            Can > Best RBR start even by Verstappen, ahead in all quali’s, but no batteries
            Aze > another crash by Ric, another DNF due to engine failure for Ver
            Aus > YES, a race where Ricciardo really was the better of the two…but it’s not like Ver has a single change to compete the race…at all clutch issues and ‘torpedo Kvyat incoming’
            GB > Ofcourse Ric did great, but in no way better than his team mate

            Overall Ric is doing nothing else than a descent job, but is behind in the quali duel and behind his team mate in every race, but one.

            Ric is looking very good in Hungary, Ver not so much… reports tell us the RBR car is like a B-spec. Ric did get a good feeling from the get-go, Ver needed all of FP1 and part of FP2 to set-up the car. Late FP the car felt right, but runs where ruined by red flags. Let’s hope for a problem free weekend for RBR and a good head to head fight… in the end, only Monaco was a problem free weekend.

          3. You can speculate all you want about how good VER would have been if it hadn’t been for all the DNF’s but at the end of the day that’s just that….speculation.

            The facts are that RIC has very quick, very consistant and has pulled off some great overtakes. He was always there to pounce when others dropped the ball. You can say what you want about Monaco but the only thing we know for a fact is that RIC beat VER to the podium. Even when RIC starts near the back like he did at Silverstone he’s right there behind his teammate who starterd form the second row…

            As for qualifying, RIC is behind 6-4 to Verstappen but Daniel has had two mechanical problems (Australia and Britian)… so that’s no difference at all.

          4. Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
            28th July 2017, 21:47

            I do think several people have over rated Verstappen’s season just basing it on his good starts. They have been very good but we just can’t predict what will have happened later on. From what we have seen, Ricciardo has been doing a very reasonable job in pretty much every race. These 2 drivers have only had 3 out of 10 races this season where they have both finished. That makes it incredibly hard to compare them. Especially since Verstappen started near the back in China and Ricciardo started at the back in Britain. Verstappen was better in China. The end result in Monaco pretty much made them look even. They were pretty much even again in Britain. That is 1 out of 3 races Verstappen looked better. And even in the other 2. In all the other races together, they have only completed 41 full laps when both on track. Just because Verstappen generally has had better starts is not enough to confirm he has missed out on certainly beating his team mate. Ricciardo could have been much stronger then Verstappen towards the end of the races. We didn’t see it so we just don’t know. We have barely seen them wheel to wheel at all this year. I personally think Ricciardo is still overall the better driver, but we just can’t say who has been better basing it just on this year. We need to see more of them racing each other.

          5. Jeffrey
            Quali dual
            So Australia was a problem..? I looked like an ordinairy crash to me.
            Forgot about China…? Quali issue for Verstappen, engine failure in Q1. starting from P17, it did not take more than just 10 laps to overtake Ricciardo.
            At Silverstone Ricciardo needed all race, to come as close as ~30 seconds from Verstappen. Yes Ver did pit, but wouldn’t have if someone was on his tale ofcourse… ow btw Verstappen started from 4th ;-)

            Ric crashed two times in Q3, both suffered from one mechanical issue during quali.

            Ric did not beat Ver in Monaco, he got put in front of him by the team. Beating your team mate happens on track, not in the pitlane.

            The only thing that gets Ric in front of Ver is reliability and one Austria race where Verstappen did just 300 meters.

          6. @ Ben,

            The times when Ric and Ver where wheel to wheel Ver came out on top.
            It’s not all about the starts ofcourse, but it is about trackposition though, it’s rather hard to judge a race on a few seconds, but when we look back at those weekend than the potential is really leaning towards Verstappen.

            Spain for example, Ric took P3, but what actually happened on track before his got on stage…? He was failry beaten in all sessions and left a quali gap op near 0.5 sec to Ver. In the actuall race he was on P6, (Max P5).
            3 cars in front of Ric DNF-ed which was what got him P3. Bottas took the blame for the incident.
            All Ric did was steer the car home.

            There’s a story behind every race, on average Ric did a solid job being there when others fail, but in which races did he fight and win for positions..? That should be Canada and Austria where he overtook Rai at the start… this only shows how importent the starts are for RBR. In GB Ric did reasonable, it really took him all race long to overtake only 1 sec/lap slower cars and end up at P5 at a good distance. It was nice racing , but no hero performance ofcourse.

            It leaves us guessing how many points Ver could have scored without 5 DNF’s, but being on P4, 3, 2, 4 and 6 when DNF only shows very good potential.

    3. Ric and others in that top 4 did their fastest lap on SS tyres while Hamilton did his on S tyre. So that .3sec slower time is might impressive, maybe a contra strategy in works with Silverarrows getting rid of S tyres in first stint on Sunday.

  2. Jolyon Palmer farewell tour.

    1. Crashathon!

    2. I think he is being told that this is his last race if he don’t beat Nico.

  3. Fukobayashi (@)
    28th July 2017, 14:54

    Jolyon putting a proper brave face on post FP1 calling it a really good session. Fair play for not moping about like he usually does but still driving below par.

    1. Shame about his FP2 making it even harder to keep up that brave face @offdutyrockstar

      1. Fukobayashi (@)
        28th July 2017, 15:30

        Just about to watch the FP2 post interviews. If he has any sense he’ll be hiding in his motorhome!

    2. His Dad will find him somewhere else to drive..no biggie for Palmer

  4. I think a Mercedes front row is still on the cards. Hamilton likely has 2/10’s edge on Bottas, and Mercedes once they put the power unit in quali mode probably have a comfortable margin over the field.

    But come race start I fancy Ricciardo to show some bravery. Especially with Hamilton having his mind on beating Vettel, he’d sooner let an ambitious Red Bull past him than risk Vettel widening his advantage.

    I think we’re on for a classic, to be honest having 6 cars this close.

    1. Yeah I got the feeling Mercedes has another .5s in hand here… We’ll see tomorrow.

      1. Still waiting to see mercs qual pace with ‘mota’ turned up…but Dan had a day in the sun.

  5. McLaren vindicating their chassis and aero work. I’m wondering if the new oil burn crack-down is affecting Ferrari and Mercedes.

    1. Nah I’m pretty sure they are sandbagging. They don’t want to let their rivals know their true pace. ;)

      1. like sauber ;)

    2. Fukobayashi (@)
      28th July 2017, 15:33

      Ferrari moreso than Mercedes if the rumours are to be believed.

  6. So do we think this red bull pace is real?? I am unshameably a massive Ric fan so I really really hope so….

    Even if merc and Ferrari turn up the engines in qually, race pace so far looks close….

    Can we be so bold as to finally hope for a ham, vet, ric, ver fight on merit……

  7. Pierree Racine
    28th July 2017, 17:28

    Stroll quickest than Massa? I think that’s a first in free practice. I don’t know what happened with Massa…

    1. deMercer (@)
      28th July 2017, 18:31

      Massa’s time is on Softs, Stroll’s on SuperSofts.

  8. Maybe Kvyat and Palmer should join the extra training Stroll is getting – if it isn’t too late:-)

  9. I think only Maldonado got this much hate before. I actually think Palmer is a decent race driver but the pressure cooker that is F1 doesn’t really suit him and he defeats himself before he even climbs in the car. It’s a shame because they are a nice family but as we’ve seen so often, ‘nice’ and F1 are mutually exclusive.

    1. @baron if he drove for RB or TR he would of had his ass kicked over the F1 horizon very early in the season..l cannot see anything decent anout his driving???

      1. Well, very simply put, he wouldn’t have got this far if he wasn’t. Unfortunately the TV cameras do not tend to visit his end of the grid too often, but if they did you might see some ‘decent’ driving. You are quite right however, RBR would never have hired him in the first place but that fact is not a benchmark. I think Palmer has good driving skills, but unfortunately perhaps, not enough for F1.

  10. Hungary is the track rbr need to do well at and max is not performing. Bit rich to think the media and his side kicks promote him as the next best thing when he can’t perform when it matters.

    1. He’ll be up there tomorrow. Max spent most FP1 and FP2 struggling with setup. He did 10 laps less (52 vs. 62) than RIC overall. He also ran mediums at the beginning to test new aero parts. He never got a clean run on SS but did run sectors individually when others were doing long-runs and those looked strong according to himself and Helmut Marko.

      1. I agree, dont write Max off

    2. A motorsports fan
      29th July 2017, 8:50

      it’s mind-boggling – some people simply invent the reality that support the uttered nonsene. in how many FP’s has Max been 0.5 sec quicker than Ricciardo this year? Why did Red Bull not fire Ricciardo then – as Ricciardo clearly “cannot perform under pressure”? They are both great drivers, and it seems the setup strategy Max has taken does not work out all that well, so that will likely be different today. No need to Daily Mail everything.

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