Vettel well ahead as engine trouble hits Red Bull

20 comments on “Vettel well ahead as engine trouble hits Red Bull”

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   HUHHII (@huhhii)
   14th April 2018, 5:12

   Red Bull to Honda in 2019 rumors to strengthen in 3..2..1…
   1. 

      Sumedh
      14th April 2018, 5:22

      I am sure behind the scenes a small team in the Red Bull office is already working on a Honda powered car for 2019.
      Between the start of testing and today, the world has got enough evidence that Honda were not as weak as assumed to be all this time (McLaren’s minimal improvement over last year in ultimate lap time as well as top speed is the biggest proof).
      Add to this the reliability niggles of Renault faced by Red Bull.

      Both these factors are bound to push Red Bull to Honda.
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         Todfod (@todfod)
         14th April 2018, 6:08

         It’s surprising that Mclaren and Renault aren’t facing the same number of problems with their Renault power unit. Could it be that Red bull got too aggressive with their packaging and cooling? Kind of similar to Mclarens situation with Honda ?

         Teams like Mclaren and Red bull will push the limit on cooling and packaging to reduce the gap to the front. That is why I don’t think Red bull moving to Honda will improve or change anything for them. They’ll still have the same number of failures, and could possibly be slower as well.
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            Nitzo (@webtel)
            14th April 2018, 6:13

            @todfod

            Could it be that Red bull got too aggressive with their packaging and cooling? Kind of similar to Mclarens situation with Honda ?

            Croft asked the question to Horner in FP3 and he said that teams faced similar issues with Renault engines last year as well. Didn’t specify on who’s car.
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            Phylyp (@phylyp)
            14th April 2018, 6:23

            It’s surprising that Mclaren and Renault aren’t facing the same number of problems with their Renault power unit. Could it be that Red bull got too aggressive with their packaging and cooling?

            The engines have a sense of irony @todfod . They’re waiting for Renault or McLaren to perform really well on a weekend before letting out the magic smoke.
   2. 

      Nitzo (@webtel)
      14th April 2018, 6:15

      @huhhii
      Team representatives press conference on Friday

      Q: Franz, are there Honda engineers based in Faenza?
      Tost: No, the Honda engineers are based… some of them are based in Milton Keynes, because Honda has there as well an R&D department, but most of them are in Sakura and our engineers are flying to Sakura, to Japan when there is a special programme…

      Hopefully this puts all speculation to rest.
      1. 

         nase
         14th April 2018, 7:57

         @webtel

         Hopefully this puts all speculation to rest.

         Why would it? If anything, it fuels those rumours.
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            Nitzo (@webtel)
            14th April 2018, 17:42

            @nase:

            The rumors wont die until RBR give a press release saying “we are going with Honda”
            As fans, i think it is waste of time to discuss the rumor any further. RBR are going with Honda.
      2. 

         anon
         14th April 2018, 9:05

         @webtel, you do realise that Honda opened a production site in Milton Keynes back in June 2014 to support their operations with McLaren? https://www.f1technical.net/news/18589

         Yes, there are Honda engineers in Milton Keynes, but what Tost was referring to – in that same sentence – were the existing facilities that Honda have been running there for the past four years.
         1. 

            Nitzo (@webtel)
            14th April 2018, 17:39

            I know its not a new facility (didn’t know it came up in 2014).
            Nevertheless, the fact that it is closer to RBR (Milton Keynes) than McLaren (Woking) raises a few questions.
            A new engine manufacturer would want more attention.
            Which ever way you look at it, if you do a simulation considering the current scenario, RBR are going with Honda.
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   Sensord4notbeingafanboi (@peartree)
   14th April 2018, 5:19

   Booking penalties should be a thing, it’s too devastating for a season to have just 3 of the major components. Honestly what’s the point of having 21 GP’s when a failure can affect multiple races.
   Rule makers bad thinking in the first place leads to even worse consequences, they just have to make rule after rule to amend the original mistake.
   I think qualifying is going to be close but Lewis is just too good in here, not to mention that surely Mercedes is saving some pace for q3, s3 deficit and the top speed figures show that.
   1. 

      SaraJ (@sjzelli)
      14th April 2018, 8:36

      Surely
3. 

   soko (@soko)
   14th April 2018, 5:19

   You’ve written that Hamilton ended the session in 10th, but it looks like he finished 5th… indeed over a second behind Vettel though.
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      Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
      14th April 2018, 5:21

      Corrected now, thanks.
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   Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
   14th April 2018, 5:21

   Gasly was also complaining of a “massive loss of grip” at the end of the session.
5. 

   Sanguine
   14th April 2018, 5:24

   For the love of all that holy please don’t click on Benson’s article if he opens the comments.
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   Phylyp (@phylyp)
   14th April 2018, 5:57

   Asked if the Australian’s car would be repaired in time to join the fight for pole, Horner replied rather pointedly, “The amount of time we’ve changed these engines, we’ve had plenty of practice.”

   Now that is a classy burn.
7. 

   Ed
   14th April 2018, 6:15

   Red Bull’s reliability is the worse of the Renault powered cars.
   I want to see them pack the Honda PU without compromise next year. It going to take a lot of work.
8. 

   Zeke
   14th April 2018, 6:24

   This will be the straw that breaks Daniels back . He’ll be seeing red after this and that red will be a Ferrari seat in 2019 . For gods sake he’s gotta go to a team that builds its own engines.
   1. 

      Phylyp (@phylyp)
      14th April 2018, 6:31

      Given that Red Bull’s PU situation with either Honda or Renault is dicey, I’m happy Ricciardo put off his contract negotiations, and would like to see him replace either of the Finns.

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