Haas not considering 2019 driver line-up until after summer break

40 comments on “Haas not considering 2019 driver line-up until after summer break”

1. 

   natlmm
   4th June 2018, 1:36

   David, David, David! ”So I think it’s just purely numbers?” First of all no one believes you talking up your Sisters “talent” and second you do understand the difference between talent and potential right? Many people have talent but to be competitive you have to have top end potential to succeed. Justine Henin was one of the most naturally gifted Tennis players of all time and had one of the best backhands in Tennis history but does that mean she could have beat men? No! She wasn’t even the best women’s player of her era, talent and potential are very different. I don’t want to come off all woman hating but can we stop the lies please, in an effort to be politically correct we are all telling some big lies to each other on this issue about female racing drivers. I do hope for a female F1 driver in the future that has got there by talent alone and is competitive, and on that day I will be very happy because she will be very special, lets not dilute that with lies.
   1. 

      MacLeod (@macleod)
      4th June 2018, 8:19

      To be fair to David he only says his sister was beter then him not that She was beter then men overall.

      I could see what he means if you take Max’s sister who was also karting (she is much younger then Max) and doing very well but Victoria decided to stop as she saw what is takes to get higher up.
      1. 

         natlmm
         4th June 2018, 8:35

         And to be even fairer we are talking about David Coulthard after all, I’m sure his mother had more driving talent than him also.
         1. 

            Ross
            4th June 2018, 8:46

            Why such an over-reaction? He merely said his sister had more natural talent, he was probably in a pretty good place to make that judgement. He is a formula 1 race winner, so I dare say I’m he has a huge amount more talent than yourself, equally likely that his mother does too.
            1. 

               natlmm
               4th June 2018, 14:57

               I see! The old you can’t say anything because ‘you’re not as good as so and so at said talent’ argument. Try harder mate. And why the over reaction to my comment?
      2. 

         Jere (@jerejj)
         4th June 2018, 12:26

         @macleod ”she is much younger then Max”
         – She’s only a couple of years younger than Max, though, so, therefore, the word ‘much’ is a bit wrong and misleading here.
         1. 

            MacLeod (@macleod)
            4th June 2018, 12:55

            @jerejj I am afraid my English isn’t good enough i thought that couple of years was much younger in my mind. Seems i have to learn a lot more as non native speaker.
   2. 

      socksolid (@socksolid)
      4th June 2018, 10:06

      Before puberty hits boys and girls are pretty close. But once the boys hit puberty their muscle mass increases rapidly. A 14-15 year old boy can run faster, jump higher and lift heavier weights than adult women. For that reason a group of teenager boys can beat professional women in football, tennis…

      I don’t think anybody even denies that men are massively superior when it comes to strength. It is not a small number either like 20%. In some cases like upper body strength it is double and in lower body strength it is 50% more. But the point is even at 50% less strength it is still possible to drive a race car fast. The modern f1 cars specifically are easy to drive. Power steering, no need to take hands off the steering wheel during gear changes. Only difficult thing is the brake pedal which needs a lot of force (I think something like 80-100kg) but at the same time braking distances are short so you don’t need to hold that force very long.

      There are other important bits to consider too. Why are there no top level women chess players for example? I remember reading an article which said even chess players during their games consume more energy, their heart rate goes up, metabolism speeds up and the games can go on for 5 hours. In other words even in chess (at top level, not in your local chess club) you need to be able to hold concentration for hours without getting tired. It is not mentally easy. If there is a physical aspect to chess which makes women less able to compete then you could say there is also a physical aspect in motorsports that severely limits women’s ability.

      That being said we have women like Michelle Mouton and Danica Patrick who have done well in motorsports. Indycar is physically more challenging to drive than f1 car because indycar don’t have power steering. And the group b monster Mouton drove were absolutely brutal physically and even the rallys and stages were something like 2x as long as modern rallys with much more heavier schedules.

      The biggest issue is still the numbers. Not many girls get into motorsports. And it doesn’t help when a women gets to top level she is someone like suzy wolff or carmen jorda who have absolutely abysmal race records and mostly get there based on their looks and other “off track activities”. Danica patrick would drive circles around both of those f1 women drivers. Someone like simona de silvestro was at least 7000 times better candidate for f1 than suzy or carmen and sadly she did not get in.
      1. 

         natlmm
         4th June 2018, 11:27

         Numbers make no difference if they’re all rubbish, may as well search for that needle in a haystack.
   3. 

      Gary
      4th June 2018, 12:09

      I think the best chance F1 has to get a woman racing in Formula One is Chloe Stroll, Lance’s sister. I figure a check from Laurence payable to Williams of $100 million ought do it.
2. 

   Jere (@jerejj)
   4th June 2018, 3:22

   I agree with the COTD despite not being as familiar with the circuit in question as with the ones that have been used in F1 over the years although I’ve driven it in Project Cars.
   – The car in the image of the Rich Energy tweet looks cool.
   1. 

      ColdFly (@)
      4th June 2018, 7:53

      And @anon raised yesterday some other points why the changes to the #PorscheCurves should be non contentious.
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   Phylyp (@phylyp)
   4th June 2018, 3:27

   Here’s a video of the IndyCar pace car crashing: https://youtu.be/dN_L_1fXs6s?t=36

   I bet that’s going to make it into a couple of crash compilations!
   1. 

      Roosterio
      4th June 2018, 6:29

      No helmet, no suit no hans device – great safety standarts
   2. 

      Peppermint-Lemon (@)
      4th June 2018, 8:27

      Didn’t look like the driver was wearing a helmet…As the car spins i could only see him wearing a headset.

      I’d be pleased to be corrected though as it’s is very irresponsible and against usual track rules if he wasn’t wearing one.
   3. 

      Vettel fan 17 (@)
      4th June 2018, 9:46

      Dear God that was utterly pathetic…
      1. 

         Phylyp (@phylyp)
         4th June 2018, 10:00

         It does remind you of those videos of people who have more money than driving ability crashing their Mustang while trying to show off, doesn’t it? 🙂 @vettelfan17

         It probably explains the tweet from Chevy, to point out that it wasn’t a car failure, but one in the nut connecting the steering to the seat.
         1. 

            Vettel fan 17 (@)
            4th June 2018, 10:33

            @phylyp defiantly, though even more silly the pace car driver drives straight onto the racing line 😒
            1. 

               ColdFly (@)
               4th June 2018, 13:29

               It wasn’t the (regular) pace car driver behind the wheel, but Mark Reuss a GM executive ;-)
               @vettelfan17, @phylyp
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               Phylyp (@phylyp)
               4th June 2018, 13:39

               @coldfly – oh dear, just when I was hearing all good things about IndyCar, they go and do something like this. Shaking my head.

               So apparently their takeaway is that the pace car is just a fancy car that drives slower, so any old crony can drive it. I’m pretty sure Charlie would have a fit if someone tried this in F1.
   4. 

      socksolid (@socksolid)
      4th June 2018, 10:12

      The best part? He held his foot on the accelerator and kept the rears spinning until he hit the floor. It is almost a joke someone like that can drive a pace car when his driving skills is completely non-existent. I mean maybe he did try to grosjean it but it almost hilarious how bad it was.

      But that’s what you get when you put a GM executive into sportscar. Good at getting your million dollar bonuses. Not so good race drivers.
      1. 

         socksolid (@socksolid)
         4th June 2018, 10:13

         Hit the wall, not the floor!
   5. 

      petebaldwin (@)
      4th June 2018, 10:43

      Im amazed he’s not wearing a helmet!
      1. 

         Sundar Srinivas Harish (@sundark)
         4th June 2018, 15:29

         The bean counters at GM probably didn’t provide him with one to keep the costs down.
   6. 

      Mark Visser
      4th June 2018, 11:27

      I’m sure his boss is watching somewhere yelling “WHY DID YOU TURN OFF THE TRACTION CONTROL??”
   7. 

      Jere (@jerejj)
      4th June 2018, 12:29

      @phylyp Incompetence at its best, LOL.
4. 

   Phylyp (@phylyp)
   4th June 2018, 4:22

   Alonso’s frustrations with McLaren might not be the final straw that makes him quit F1… but his successes in other formulae just might be.
   1. 

      JeffreyJ
      5th June 2018, 7:20

      LMMS is a 1 car championship since this yr. He can’t lose Lemans unless the car breaks down.. I wouldn’t call that succes.
5. 

   Nico
   4th June 2018, 7:17

   Kubica to HAAS would be a great choice!
   1. 

      FreddyVictor
      4th June 2018, 14:15

      interesting idea !
      but does he have some form of contract with Williams at the moment ? Not sure
      Unless GRO starts performing to what he can & should be doing, I would be surprised if he stays
      1. 

         Schudha
         4th June 2018, 20:17

         Why all this hate towards grosjean?
         He’s outperformed more or less every one of his teammates.
         I’d argue Raikkonen, Ericsson, Stroll are all due their criticisms as they simply do not perform every race. To me that’s worse than making a few errors.
         Its clear the best drivers rise to the top, but notice how the media horn on about how a particular average driver is amazing while hammering another when frankly there’s no difference between them.
         Grosjean and Sainz are very every matched in my view but this rhetoric gets pushed all the time by key media. E.g. Brundle all over Sainz when he does well but doesn’t mention when he spun off at the Senna eases on his last Torro Rosso drive last year. Not even a mention of how pathetic that was. It’s unfair to single the guy out. He’s earned his place in the grid as much as all other drivers.
      2. 

         NS Biker (@rekibsn)
         5th June 2018, 4:40

         Seems there is an insurance issue that is hindering Kubica’s return. Not sure of the amount, but considerable.
         The $$$ would need to be repaid to the underwriters if he turns a wheel in an F1 race. It does make it a little more complex than one might expect or hope.
         If someone wanted him, I am sure Williams would oblige. Look how they handled Bottas.
         There may be a few seats available for next year. Should be interesting.
6. 

   ColdFly (@)
   4th June 2018, 7:47

   @keithcollantine, I applaud that you try to get more original content on this website.
   And I’m sure @dieterrencken was present when Steiner made today’s headline statements.
   But it is a bit disappointing that the exact quote were published on other websites almost a week ago.

   I prefer the round-up to be exactly that a round-up of what happened in F1 yesterday.
7. 

   Sally
   4th June 2018, 8:14

   I think many of Alonso’s issues in his career have been manifested by his relationship with his manager, the purported criminal Flavio Briatore. Sad to see a great talent such as Alonso not fighting at the sharp end of the F1 grid.
8. 

   Euro Brun (@eurobrun)
   4th June 2018, 9:20

   I found it interesting to see the difference in attitudes / comments regarding Le Mans from Alonso and Button.

   Granted, Alonso has the better car, better team, better resources, but despite all that, he has watched hours upon hours of in car footage and spent hours in the simulator to prepare himself as best as physically possible. Not only is he doing well (but lets not get carried away by testing day 1), and focussed only on winning, but he is enjoying himself.

   Button on the other hand doesn’t appear to have done any simulator work (hope someone can prove me wrong, please) and said his first laps were “quite disconcerting”. I don’t get the feeling that he’s really at all prepared and could end up being the embarrassing weak link in the team (he’s alongside Vitaly Petrov and Mikhail Aleshin, so really should be at least matching them). I would love to see him do well, but am not at all convinced yet.
   1. 

      Victor. (@victor)
      4th June 2018, 10:20

      Button for all intends and purposes is retired at the top level and having some fun. Alonso is still active at the pinnacle – heck, even trying to stay relevant – so different approaches are to be expected. Then on top of that Alonso is naturally more at ease with being out of his comfort zone, as he has demonstrated many times in F1, while Button has always been sensitive to things being “just right”, set-up-wise especially.

      Alonso’s situation really is a shame, but he only has himself to blame. Could have won two world championships for McLaren in 2007 and 2008 had his attitude been different, and I suspect at least two more for Ferrari under the current regulations had he not burnt his bridges, probably setting up a happy retirement at the end of 2020. The fact that Mercedes wouldn’t even seriously consider him for the vacant race seat last year speaks volumes. Would love to see him have one last shot at the championship in the next few years in a half-decent car, but unfortunately don’t see it happening.
   2. 

      Sundar Srinivas Harish (@sundark)
      4th June 2018, 15:28

      Button took the mandatory simulator run a couple of days ago. But apart from that, I don’t think he’s had much preparation. But you’ve got to appreciate the fact that Button was a last-minute addition to the SMP crew – he was announced as a driver just before Spa. Plus, he has his Super GT program with Honda, too.
9. 

   TEDBELL
   4th June 2018, 18:48

   How about Rossi ?

   Team America **** yeah !!

   All he needed was a proper race car and not the piece of crap he was involved with first time around.
   1. 

      JeffreyJ
      5th June 2018, 7:36

      Rossi seems to have become a better driver since his F1 days. He and defending champion Newgarden would be great on the F1 grid over Ericcson, Stroll and Sirotkin (Sergey isn’t terrible, but hasn’t got his set on merit). With guys like Alonso and Raikkonen possibly retiring from F1 too I think teams should
10. 

    Nunu
    5th June 2018, 7:19

    Pretty sure Haas will keep MAG – his form i rising fast these days- if they are smart they will sign a 2 year.. GRO have until summer to prove himself- funny thing is that GRO is the one with the biggest salery.. MAG is almost for free..
    Wonder how last season would have been if MAG didnt have to share his car with GIO all those FPs – he would properly have been faster than GRO allready then.. GRO had a contract saying he was the only one driving the car (learned from his time in Lotus). MAG wasn’t that clever…but he will have this included in his new contract- with a bigger salery I suppose…

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