Magnussen also excluded from United States GP

22 comments on “Magnussen also excluded from United States GP”

1. 

   Kris
   21st October 2018, 23:27

   I wonder whether Haas allowed Magnussen to spend too long in too aggressive an engine mode in the battle towards the end of the race, believing that they were all going to be lapped by the leaders. When that didn’t happen, they would have had one more lap to do and insufficient fuel with which to do it legally.
   1. 

      jenc (@jens)
      22nd October 2018, 11:49

      That totally makes sense.
2. 

   Euro Brun (@eurobrun)
   21st October 2018, 23:38

   Its a bit slapstick.
   K-Mag was chasing Ocon. Had he just let him go, he’d have been given the place following Ocon’s penalty!
3. 

   Fer no.65 (@fer-no65)
   21st October 2018, 23:41

   Already looking forwards to the “stats & facts” article… I wonder when was the last time two drivers were disqualified for technical infringements in the same race!
   1. 

      Calum
      22nd October 2018, 0:08

      Australia 2011 is the last one that jumps to mind.
      2x Sauber DSQs for rear wings failing scrutineering tests.

      Will be interesting to see the stats page to see if some more recent example can be found.
      1. 

         hahostolze (@hahostolze)
         22nd October 2018, 5:20

         Ah but when was the last time two drivers from different teams were disqualified for the same infringement?
         1. 

            Miguel Bento
            22nd October 2018, 6:07

            It was not the same infringement.
            1. 

               hahostolze (@hahostolze)
               22nd October 2018, 7:10

               Ah, I thought it was. Nevermind.
            2. 

               Neiana (@neiana)
               22nd October 2018, 7:26

               They were both fuel infringements. Ocon used too much fuel over the course of a single lap and K Mag used too much over the course of the race. They’re still going to be classified as fuel infringements, making them the same.

               Don’t play semantics. If the right front is loose after a pit stop, then it’s a tire/safety. If the left rear, it’s a tire/safety. Same thing.
            3. 

               Gabriel (@rethla)
               22nd October 2018, 10:44

               @neiana What?
               One used to much power and the other ran out of fuel.
               Magnussen probably used the overtakebutton to much and Ocon ran an illegal engine mode.
               Its completly different issues.
4. 

   pastaman (@)
   21st October 2018, 23:52

   Ugh
5. 

   Maximilian (@maximilian)
   22nd October 2018, 0:33

   I’m not one to normally lament the death of F1 at the hands of the FIA, but what a way to sap some of the electricity from the best race of the season.
6. 

   MaliceCooper
   22nd October 2018, 0:35

   Kevin! How could you?! F1 is trying to save the environment here and you went and burnt an extra kilo of fuel! I want you to think about what you did before we all jet off to Mexico. I mean, we want you to race, but not that fast! That’s just crazy..
   1. 

      Phylyp (@phylyp)
      22nd October 2018, 3:08

      Funny :-)
   2. 

      James (@knewman)
      22nd October 2018, 5:07

      Haha too good
   3. 

      Rygiel
      22nd October 2018, 7:24

      It was only 0.1 kilo :)
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   @HoHum (@hohum)
   22nd October 2018, 0:48

   Haas are to be congratulated for embracing the F1 modus operandi, no wonder they got up to speed so quickly. More seriously though, how is it that they started a race carrying excess baggage in the form of fuel ?
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      Phylyp (@phylyp)
      22nd October 2018, 3:14

      @hohum – they have the 105 kg limit for lights to flag, but may also be fuelled up a tad more for the warm up lap, cool down lap, and scrutineering sample. So, it doesn’t mean they should carry a maximum of 105 kg, just that should only use only that much during the race.

      Running under the VSC would also not have contributed as much fuel saving as a proper safety car period. Even so, I am surprised at this, I thought teams had a handle on this given the absence of similar infringements since early 2014.

      To your question, I’m surprised there is an engine setting that allows a fuel flow higher than allowed by the regs. If anything, I’d have thought there’s good reason for that to be limited by the engine mapping, since there’s never a reason for running an engine with higher fuel flows in a race (or is there?).
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         DaveW (@dmw)
         22nd October 2018, 3:40

         Even so, I’m amazed that so many cars were even fueled to the limit, given the normal wisdom is to fuel light so you can start fast and then make it up where you can. There is a max fuel flow rate limit per the rules, which is why rpms are so low. I suppose with this track now having three straights in practice with the higher grip and df, fuel became an issue.
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            Phylyp (@phylyp)
            22nd October 2018, 9:56

            I suppose with this track now having three straights in practice with the higher grip and df, fuel became an issue.

            @dmw – that’s a good point. Plus, the team might have assumed that with its vast runoffs, the likelihood of a lengthy safety car period were unlikely (hence a lower chance of fuel saving).
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   joe jopling (@jop452)
   22nd October 2018, 10:22

   We have a sport which teams spend millions to compete in….then we have practice where no one dares to run as there are not enough tyres for the weekend if it rains…..and now if we have to fuel save, we cannot in the race go flat out as we will use too much fuel and be disqualified…so its not really a race…..Yes its the same for all teams….but its all wrong
   Please can we arrange an injection of common sense
9. 

   Jere (@jerejj)
   22nd October 2018, 10:48

   LOL.

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