Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, 2019

Bottas looking for answers to “shocking” Q3 performance

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In the round-up: Valtteri Bottas says he will scrutinise his error-strewn Q3 performance after qualifying sixth for the Canadian Grand Prix.

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Bottas spun on his first lap then locked up repeatedly on his second run in Q3:

Quite disappointing from my side, really a shocking Q3 for me. Made mistakes. It’s not my first, it won’t be my last, but the timing was not right.

I felt like I got a really good exit out of turn two on that lap, through the upshift there was a bit of a bump at the same time I got a snap so I went wide, caught the grass and all I could do was try to save and not to touch the wall. Definitely my mistake but a bit surprising on the upshift.

And then second run it was pretty messy. I lost already a bit of time in turn three and four and then a lock-up into six and another one at the hairpin so it was still a mess. Probably lost a bit of rhythm and probably tried a bit too hard. It can happen when you’re on the back foot.

Definitely a good evening for me to look in the mirror tonight and find out why these mistakes happen in Q3 because they shouldn’t but that’s life.

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  • 10 comments on “Bottas looking for answers to “shocking” Q3 performance”

    1. Start looking into BOTTAS 2.0 hype.

      1. Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
        9th June 2019, 7:26

        the average gap between him and Hamilton in qualifying will still be next to nothing. If other cars were as quick as they were here in spain, Hamilton likely will have been 6th there as the gap between him and Bottas was virtually the same. This is just a bad run that he admitted to. He looked strong in Q1 and Q1 and I think he will be strong in the race again.

        1. This is pure nonsense!

        2. I’m not going to make a study case with Bottas, you could be right… but thing is he’s not a tier1 driver, so he cannot take the fight to HAM over the entire season, therefore have real chances at the title. Just like Barrichello, Coulthard, Massa etc, he has some days when his team mate cannot ”touch” him, but too few to matter in a season. I reckon tho that he never received 100% equal treatment from his team either – HAM being the priority, and that’s obviously a minus. Also, yesterday, the fact that he messed up his 1st run from Q3 must have affected his 2nd/final run from Q3. But thing is he messed up big time his final run too… so his fault. Anyway, bottom line is I hardly doubt he would have bettered HAM’s time.

          1. Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
            9th June 2019, 9:37

            i think Bottas is really strong in qualifying. At least seems so this year, but in the races, he either has to get a better start and get ahead of Hamilton or it is pretty much certain he will finish behind. I won’t argue that Hamilton vertually always has better race pace. But I don’t think this slip up in 1 session is Bottas suddenly dropping his early form. I think he will still be decent.

            Regarding what happened yesterday, he was obviously totally at fault for the first incident, but when he was sent out, he didn’t manage to do the right preparation for the lap and I think that was because he was too close to the car ahead meaning he slowed down more than he wanted. I don’t think the gap showed the pace difference between the 2 this time, Bottas just messed up. I think 2 – 3 tenths was more realistic. Bottas managed to find more speed than Hamilton just in Q1 and Hamilton was asking what he was missing. Almost as if he was wondering where Bottas was finding the extra time over him. So with that noted, I don’t think Bottas’s last 2 runs were at all representative of his true form. He just messed up. But admittedly, a bad time to do so.

        3. Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
          9th June 2019, 16:46

          KGN11

          You need to go in to more detail as to what is nonsense.

          The gap between Hamilton and Bottas in Spain was 0.634. That advantage was for Bottas. In this session, Hamilton beat Bottas by 0.655.

          The other 5 qualifying sessions, 4 of them were within a tenth of a second of each other. Australia, It was only a fraction over a tenth.

          Australia – Hamilton ahead by 0.112

          Bahrain – Hamilton ahead by 0.066

          China – Bottas ahead by 0.023

          Azerbaijan – Bottas ahead by 0.059

          Spain – Bottas ahead by 0.634

          Monaco – Hamilton ahead by 0.86

          Canada – Hamilton ahead by 0.655

          If you averaged these out, Hamilton would win it, but not by much at all.

          If you disagree with my other statement regarding me comparing the 2 big gaps in Spain and here, then I don’t understand either. The gap was virtually the same. And it certainly will have been the case that if other cars were as quick as they were yesterday, but in Spain, Hamilton will have been split from Bottas by some others. That was my point.

    2. Yes, it indeed was shocking to even lose to a Renault. Losing out to a Red Bull in the hands of Gasly following a scrubby lap like his only full flying Q3 lap was, but he should’ve at the very least managed to beat Ricciardo given the car pace advantage although the same applies to Gasly as well.

      1. Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
        9th June 2019, 7:59

        To be fair, Bottas was only a tiny tiny margin behind Both Gasly and Ricciardo. If you look at Spain, Verstappen was nearly a full second off Bottas. That showed how dominant Mercedes were there compared to Red Bull. Hamilton’s awful lap cost him virtually nothing.

        Here, even Gasly was only 0.367 off Hamilton with a Renault even closer to him. It just shows how much closer several other cars are here. And that Ferrari are likely better. I know it isn’t good for Bottas to loose to these cars, but I’m just saying Hamilton would have been in the same situation in Spain if not for the cars significant advantage there. The gap between Bottas and Hamilton here was almost identical to Spain.

      2. He locked up at the hairpin. that would cost him atleast a couple of tenths. overall, it wasnt just a scrappy lap.

    3. At the very least, the race will should be interesting what with Bottas and Max out of place. I expect an interesting race with plenty of over-taking.

      Consider this glass, half-full.

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