Lando Norris, McLaren, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, 2019

Norris: F1’s midfield can still surprise people

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In the round-up: Lando Norris says F1’s midfield is so close that even a poor practice or qualifying can leave a team able to “surprise people” in race trim.

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I guess the first few races it was probably a surprise but we’ve been there or thereabouts. It always changes things – what the fans think of the team and I guess me as a driver. Everyone knows how close it is in the midfield and sometimes you can have a bad friday, a bad saturday and still surprise people because it’s so close.

Quotes: Dieter Rencken

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Comment of the day

GT Racer rules telemetry out of Vettel’s penalty review:

The stewards already have full access to all of the telemetry from every car.

Teams no longer use there own systems to transmit/receive the data or team radio communications now, It all goes through the FOM system along with the OnBoard camera feeds so FOM, The FIA & stewards have access to everything.

It’s all transmitted through the communications unit in the center of the T-cam on the roll-bar, Goes through the FOM/TATA fibre network setup around the circuit which sends it to the FOM TV tent where it’s stored on a server which the stewards have access to via some software where they can view any camera angle, Listen to any bit of team radio or view any piece of timing or telemetry data they wish to.

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20 comments on “Norris: F1’s midfield can still surprise people”

  1. Great article on Max by Buxton.

    1. Agreed, I hadn’t appreciated quite how consistent Max has been. That said, the article was curiously silent on the 5 DNFs related to reliability that Ricciardo suffered post Canada which certainly helped Max!

      1. True but he does mention that after the first six races, the next six races saw both drivers with 2 dnfs each and yet Max still highly outpointed DR in those 6 races. And dnfs are race related for the most part whereas unquestionably Max outqualified and outlead DR over each season they were together. I don’t think Max really needed the ‘help’ of DR’s issues to show his talent.

        One thing that I will always bear in mind and find interesting about that Monaco turning point for Max is that the brush with the barrier and the resultant crash was one thing (others have done it), but the inability for the mechanics to fix the car in time for quali was another. Not blaming them whatsoever as they are not miracle workers, but had they been able to get Max out for quali this perhaps might not have been such a teachable moment for Max nor a turning point. In a way the garage did him a favour by not being able to fix his car on time…again, not meant as a slag towards them whatsoever.

      2. That’s the thing– take out the DNF’s, and Max still outscores Ricciardo, but only by about half a point per race on average. It’s certainly not the crushing defeat that’s often expressed.

        And Gasly just hasn’t been performing the way he should.

        Max is a very good driver– if he starts learning from his mistakes, he’ll be a truly great driver. Otherwise, he’s another Jacques Villeneuve.

        1. If you look at the stats of the total time they spent together it still evens it out, also ricciardo at least proved he could score poles in the same machinery and matched max in all the other areas over the whole time together

  2. On economic impact of sport events, I would like to see it dissected in private consumption and private/public expenditure.
    For instance, the superbwol in Atlanta demanded a huge change in the arena roof, but I am almost certain that the gross of that 400m is from 70000 travelling to a city to spend a week around the event.
    In Mexico, how much of that impact was just what was spent on the new circuit.
    I mean, what is just money flow and what is marginal return on investment.
    Sometimes, the celebrated conomic impact of a sport event is more related to the cost of holding it than properly the disseminated gains it brings to a region.

  3. Lando has a really cool stream on twitch were he plays iracing and answers f1 questions its really cool

    1. @carlosmedrano – I was trying to find a way to include that in the roundup the other day but couldn’t quite think of a way to shoehorn it in that didn’t seem weird; it’s a great side-gig from Norris though!

      1. Its so cool he even makes public iracing lobbies so you can race against him and his friends. Coolest moment of iracing was lapping behind a f1 driver and hearing him goof on twitch had a big fan boy moment there

  4. Levente (@leventebandi)
    18th June 2019, 6:43

    a second technical infraction, for the car exceeding the maximum fuel capacity, has resulted in the car’s disqualification altogether.
    The GTE AM story already turned worse, before the publication of the round-up

  5. RocketTankski
    18th June 2019, 6:57

    ● Raikkonen’s favourite…
    needs to be a weekly feature

    1. I second that

  6. I thoroughly agree with the COTD. Furthermore, this whole review thing is more or less entirely pointless anyway this much afterwards.

    1. Perhaps not entirely pointless for Ferrari or they wouldn’t be using this avenue that has been afforded them by the rules. Will be interesting to hear what comes of this if in fact we get to hear. Perhaps it might still go nowhere and just be dropped again without us knowing what more Ferrari brought to the table.

  7. Interesting stats on Max there. Keep it it up dude.

    I have no idea what the Kimi thing is about but that image of “The Last Supper” is awesome :)

    If Alonso starts delivering Pizza it wont end there.
    He will want to be the first ever delivery guy to deliver every different type of fast food to the same address faster than anyone else ever has!

  8. LOL! @nullapax

    At your door in under 3m18.021s or it’s free!

  9. COTD.

    The telemetry going through the FOM system was briefly mentioned in Ted Kravitz OnBoard camera feature last year.

    At 4 mins: https://streamable.com/lhrga

    1. Sky also did a behind the scenes feature in the stewards room where they looked at some of the software & stuff they use.

      https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/f1/11069148/exclusive-access-with-the-fia

      1. Too bad that they didn’t learn any of it themselves.

  10. Thank you for that Renault F1 link! Great behind the scenes footage I’ve never seen.

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