F1 drivers championship after the 2020 70th Anniversary Grand Prix
Driver | Total | |
---|---|---|
1 | Lewis Hamilton | 107 |
2 | Max Verstappen | 77 |
3 | Valtteri Bottas | 73 |
4 | Charles Leclerc | 45 |
5 | Lando Norris | 38 |
6 | Alexander Albon | 36 |
7 | Lance Stroll | 28 |
8 | Sergio Perez | 22 |
9 | Daniel Ricciardo | 20 |
10 | Esteban Ocon | 16 |
11 | Carlos Sainz Jnr | 15 |
12 | Pierre Gasly | 12 |
13 | Sebastian Vettel | 10 |
14 | Nico Hulkenberg | 6 |
15 | Antonio Giovinazzi | 2 |
15 | Daniil Kvyat | 2 |
17 | Kevin Magnussen | 1 |
18 | Kimi Raikkonen | 0 |
18 | Nicholas Latifi | 0 |
18 | George Russell | 0 |
18 | Romain Grosjean | 0 |
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F1 constructors championship after the 2020 70th Anniversary Grand Prix
Team | Total | |
---|---|---|
1 | Mercedes | 180 |
2 | Red Bull | 113 |
3 | Ferrari | 55 |
4 | McLaren | 53 |
5 | Racing Point | 41 |
6 | Renault | 36 |
7 | AlphaTauri | 14 |
8 | Alfa Romeo | 2 |
9 | Haas | 1 |
10 | Williams | 0 |
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Oxnard (@montalvo)
9th August 2020, 15:44
If Max only had those 18-25 points from the Austrian GP. If only..
DeanR (@deanr)
9th August 2020, 18:25
Then he would be 5-12 points behind.
Jeorge
10th August 2020, 3:01
@montalvo
Yeah especially considering the “every race is like a final” approach from Redbull. Would certainly be something to look forward to
Jockey Ewing
9th August 2020, 15:46
Wow Verstappen is ahead of Bottas, and Leclerc is 4th with that Ferrari.
Tristan (@skipgamer)
9th August 2020, 15:49
More hot races please! I’m fully on board the Verstappen train, anything but another year of Merc domination.
Jere (@jerejj)
9th August 2020, 16:03
@skipgamer The current forecast for the Spanish GP weekend is 27-30 C.
chimaera2003 (@chimaera2003)
9th August 2020, 16:16
@skipgamer @jerejj I fear you need hot weather AND too soft tyres to knock MB off top spot. I think if you have only one of them then there is enough of a raw pace advantage for MB to manage it.
Whilst Spain will probably be hot, we are back to C1, C2 and C3 so MB will not be compromised.
Ivan Vinitskyy (@ivan-vinitskyy)
9th August 2020, 17:34
@chimaera2003 Today Max on 25lap old hards were doing better lap times than Mercedes on 10lap old hards. These are C2. Unless Mercedes were super managing their pace, which is hard to believe because Max almost jumped them both. That sounds like a big gap.
chimaera2003 (@chimaera2003)
9th August 2020, 18:52
@ivan-vinitskyy There are plenty of moving parts when it comes to F1 strategy but I think if we had the C1, C2 and C3 today it would have been harder (but not impossible) for RBR to navigate their way past MB. It would have been a clear one-stop (assuming no awkwardly timed safety cars) with fewer tactical variations available (such as being able to get through Q2 on the hard tyre as the soft would be a viable race tyre).
My statement was admittedly based on gut feel rather than hard science so you could be right. I was just cautioning that anyone hoping that a continuation of hot weather alone automatically making MB beatable could be disappointed. I think you need a few more factors working against MB for them to be beatable on merit like they were today.
David (@davidjwest)
9th August 2020, 20:25
We don’t really know that yet, perhaps if it’s even hotter then Mercedes will struggle regardless of the tyres.
Problem for Max is that there aren’t likely to be enough hot races for him to take the fight to Mercedes.
The European races in September and October are not likely to be hot, generally speaking.
chimaera2003 (@chimaera2003)
9th August 2020, 21:00
@davidjwest I intended to write “will not be AS compromised”. Small word but big impact! I agree that stating outright that MB would have no issues with harder tyres would be a bold statement.
However I fear that it would need to be much hotter in order for something similar to today to happen again.
Ninjenius
9th August 2020, 15:49
I think it was 30 before today though, no?
Jere (@jerejj)
9th August 2020, 16:51
@Ninjenius Yes, so 34 now.
luigismen (@luigismen)
9th August 2020, 18:59
Still 30… but now to Max, so it should have been “kept his championship lead”
Ajaxn
9th August 2020, 15:54
yeah, Max living up to his name, maximizing his opportunities.
Bottas Mk 3.0 not much improvement on Bottas Mk 2.0. Mean while Hamilton marches on.
Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
9th August 2020, 19:38
To be fair, it is 5 races into the season and had Bottas get his deserved 2nd place in the last 2 races, he would only be 10 points behind Hamilton.
In 2017, by the 5th race, he was 35 points behind (will have been 20 without retiring in Spain)
In 2018, if he got the win in China (which was deserved) and at least 2nd place in Baku (this was the position he had earned as he was lucky to get 1st), he will have been 12 points behind Hamilton at the end of race 5.
In 2019, their luck looked even in the first 5 races and Bottas was 7 points behind.
This year, as I mentioned above, Bottas would again be pretty close had he had slightly better luck, but I still think he’s looked noticeably better the past couple of years than before then.
It is quite possibly related to the fact that mercedes are dominant and Hamilton is so strong that it makes it boring for many, but a lot of people (this isn’t against you) seem to be really against Bottas. I think he’s doing a very solid job. I just think the only way he can beat Hamilton is getting better luck like Rosberg did in 2016. Hamilton has clearly had less bad luck than Bottas in the 3 previous years, and so far, this year too.
f12007v (@f1fan-2000)
9th August 2020, 15:57
Wow had max finished in Austria he would just be 3 points behind Lewis in the standings
Broke84 (@broke84)
9th August 2020, 16:01
That’s kind of nonsense. Even if he’d finished, what’s to say he’d have finished in the position he retired?
DeanR (@deanr)
9th August 2020, 18:30
And if lewis’ engine hadn’t exploded Malaysia 16 he would be a 7 x WDC. If MACLAREN hadn’t kept Lewis out for too long in China 07, he would be an 8 x WDC. Ifs and buts…
Jeorge
10th August 2020, 3:04
@broke84 judging from Albon’s pace at the restart I’d say Max would’ve done really well even if we eliminate hindsight in terms of strategy, those 12+ points wouldn’t hurt
MG1982 (@mg1982)
9th August 2020, 15:59
Yeah, screwed up by his own team to favour HAM. That’s what it’s called if it’s Ferrari, why not when it’s Mercedes and even more obvious?! Plus, HAM/Mercedes still owns BOT 1 win!!!
knightameer (@knightameer)
9th August 2020, 17:32
That’s because Mercedes, as in everything else, are very subtle and cheeky about their driver status. While with Ferrari, it was always in your face type favorism. Mercs are expert in these sort of arrangements.
Jeorge
10th August 2020, 2:59
@knightameer
Yeah they always say, “we let our drivers race and whoever is infront gets the preferential strategy”