Carlos Sainz Jnr, McLaren, Spa-Francorchamps, 2020

Gravel and grass run-off areas “the only thing Spa is missing” – Sainz

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In the round-up: Carlos Sainz Jnr says he wants gravel and grass run-off areas reinstated at Spa-Francorchamps.

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Sainz said the only thing Spa is missing is run-off areas which challenge the drivers. Its Astroturf run-offs were removed before this weekend’s race:

I think sector two is one of the best sectors we have in the whole calendar. I think the only thing Spa is missing now is the gravel and the grass next to the exit kerbs.

I feel now we have a bit too much asphalt and the feel of risk and paying off risk/reward. It’s not good enough in these modern circuits. I think even though safety is paramount I think there’s still a compromise to be found with the Tarmac run-off areas.

Although the combination of sector two and Eau Rouge and everything is incredible I think there’s still work to do to try and make more of a penalty for drivers when you run wide. Just having that Tarmac there just gets that fear out of you of pushing a bit too much: Turn 10 [Pouhon] the exit of 13 [Fagnes], the exit of eight [Bruxelles].

I miss gravel. I miss grass. And it’s something that we’ll talk with the FIA to see how we can at least create that feeling for the driver to make sure we can feel a bit more risk/reward when going into a fast corner.

Quotes: Dieter Rencken

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Comment of the day

Lando Norris deserves some sympathy over his decision not to use a special helmet design he’d created for this weekend, says @LesCombes82:

I’m sorry for Norris. That was a beautiful design with the picture of his grandparents on it. Our stupid Belgian politics ruined this for him. He’s not to blame. He doesn’t live here.

This would have been picked up by Belgian media and they would have played him. The political party who uses this flag would have taken advantage of it. The political parties that oppose this would have taken advantage of it.

Nothing much he could do.
@LesCombes82

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14 comments on “Gravel and grass run-off areas “the only thing Spa is missing” – Sainz”

  1. On the subject of run-off areas why are the track limits being allowed to be totally ignored?

    1. @johnrkh No, they aren’t. No problem as long as at least two wheels are on the curbs.

      1. @jerejj The white line is or was meant to be the track limits, the cars were fully well past that on most laps and obviously they are gaining an advantage or they wouldn’t do it.

        1. Yes, indeed. Hamilton, among many others, was well off the circuit on the exit of les combes on several of his quick laps. It looks bad for the car, grinding over that sausage kerb but the lap time doesn’t lie. I doubt they’d be doing that if it was grass or gravel.

          I also find the big sausage kerbs a bit dangerous – if someone hits one wrong, they will get launched and could have a really nasty accident. The speeds are so high now in what used to be slow/medium speed curves.

        2. @johnrkh how far do you take that position though?

          Do you say that having any part of the car over the white line is wrong, in which case there probably hasn’t been a legal lap in F1 for decades? Would you permit part of the car to be on the kerb, in which case the question becomes what portion of the car and how do you enforce that?

          1. anon It does come down to two things imo. First tracks must have boundary limits or it turns into a bit of a farce.
            Second the cars have evolved where’s the older traditional tracks have not and I don’t want to see them disappear.
            So the solution as I see it would be to redesign the offending corners to suit the higher speeds and wider cars we see today. Put in a grass or gravel strip to ‘encourage’ drivers to stay within the white line. As long as two wheels stay on the line fully no worries, if they go past that they would have two wheels on the grass/gravel = losing time.
            Or we have the technical ability to enforce also with sensors no problems. I think either of those two solutions would work, I prefer the grass/gravel option as the drivers would self regulate.

        3. @johnrkh @frood19 – The FIA decided some time ago to use the curbing as the reference for track limits rather than the white lines and I’ve been perfectly fine with this.
          @anon – Indeed.

          1. @jerejj But doesn’t that change from track to track I’m sure it does. Anyway I’ve posted my thoughts on it above.

        4. Exactly @johnrkh, the current application of the rules accepts drivers constantly going off track as it is defined (the white lines) with part of their cars and even with the whole car.

          And then they start solving things like too harsh kerbing damaging cars etc.

  2. 2880 is quite an over-optimistic target under the COVID-circumstances. Hopefully, nothing goes wrong because of that.

  3. Congratulations to Sainz with his CotD.

  4. I was a big fan of hip hop when I was a kid, they don’t look like me so it was very special to me when eminem appeared…not. I respect Lewis’ view though. I agree with sainz, spa used to be gorgeous.

    1. You did feel special though when Vanilla Ice appeared on the scene I hope ;)
      @peartree

  5. For safe but challenging run off areas they could install an engine restrictor. If you go off track then the engine power output is nerfed for the rest of the season.

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