‘Aston Martin’s return is the biggest thing to happen to F1 for decades’: Lawrence Stroll interview


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Back in 1992/3, as a Formula 1 wannabe, long before emailing became commonplace, I called various teams, sponsors, sponsor agents and technical partners seeking whatever openings they might have on offer. One of those I called was the then-boss of Tommy Hilfiger, at the time a sponsor of the (original) Lotus team. My call to the USA number went into voicemail, so I left a brief message requesting a call back.

Having had the majority of such requests ignored or given short shrift when I did connect, I resigned myself to it being ‘another of those’. Imagine, then, my surprise when I received a call, and while discussions (and subsequent conversations) came to nought, I have never forgotten the thickly accented words when I thanked for the courtesy of returned calls: “I always return calls.” It proved no idle comment.

The CEO of the fashion brand back then was Lawrence Sheldon Strulovitch, better to known to the current generation of F1 fans as Lawrence Stroll, chairman and substantial equity holder in Aston Martin Lagonda; lead of the syndicate that owns Aston Martin F1, the team formerly known as Racing Point (and a variety of other names) and set to race under that banner; father of F1 podium placer, Lance.

His passion for motor racing had taken Stroll into F1 with Tommy Hilfiger, as it thereafter did with other brands he acquired and grew before listing and selling, with the sports clothing label and Asprey (high end fashion accessories and jewellery) variously adorning Ferrari grand prix cars.

Stroll hails from a family of Québécois clothes merchants – comfortably off, not high-rollers – who presented him with Canadian rights to Pierre Cardin’s kiddies range on his 18th birthday “to do my best with”. Rights to Ralph Lauren’s collections were added, then Stroll looked further afield: not only globally, but other brands, too, including Michael Kors, which propelled him into Forbes’s multi-billionaire category.

Stroll’s Hilfiger logos adorned early nineties Lotuses
Along the way he established Montreal’s Ferrari dealership and acquired arguably the world’s best Ferrari collection – it includes original and mid-engined versions of the GTO, a P4 330 and a LaFerrari. He also owns other collectibles such as McLaren and Ford GT plus the picturesque Circuit Mont Tremblant – host to the 1968/70 Canadian Grands Prix and a 2007 ChampCar round – situated northwest of Montréal.

Most of these ‘foreign’ models are now, though, said to be for sale as he focuses on rebuilding AML, which, appropriately enough given its James Bond 007 connections, previously hit the skids seven times. Before acquiring a controlling interest in AML he committed to buying road and track versions of its Valkyrie supercar, and it was while signing for these that he pitched a sponsorship deal for his F1 team. The question of taking control of the English brand arose during talks.

Little-known is that another shareholder in AML is former Ferrari president and CEO Luca di Montezemolo – the friendship harks back to the dealership and sponsorship days – who not only aided Stroll during pre-purchase due diligence but demonstrated his faith in Stroll by investing in AML. Another investor is Mercedes F1 team boss Toto Wolff, while the Three-Pointed Star recently upping its holding from 4.5% to 20%.

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Stroll is justifiably proud of the latter transaction for it saves AML around $50 million (£36.5m) per year in research and development by providing next-generation access to powertrains, electronics and infotainment, the costs of which are crippling for low-volume manufacturers. Ferrari and Maserati draw off the wider Fiat group, Lamborghini and Bentley from VW and Rolls-Royce off BMW, but AML basically stood alone.

Stroll was at his son’s side through his ascent to F1
The foregoing proves he is not averse to combining business with his passion, with son Lance’s skills behind the wheel adding yet another dimension to senior’s petrol-head portfolio. It is, of course, easy to take swipes at Lance on the basis of having had the best kit provided by family wealth, but fact is he alone drove the cars en route to F4, F3, Toyota Racing Series titles, three F1 podiums and a F1 pole position.

Another statistic about Stroll Snr: Despite packed executive schedules he had not missed a single race his son participated in until last year’s Austrian Grand Prix – the absence being unavoidable due to urgent AML business. Consider that Lance started racing karts at the age of 10, moved to the USA’s Formula Abarth-type series at 14 and won the TRS title in New Zealand before switching to European series, and the paternal commitment is clear.

Notwithstanding his considerable achievements Lawrence is remarkably media shy. He’s said to have received a dressing down after an indiscretion to fashion journalists as a youngster and kept his lips sealed since. Apart from a single paddock appearance to make a statementafter Racing Point was found guilty of copying – he has not spoken to specialist F1 media, having granted interviews only to dailies or financial and fashion outlets.

Until this interview, that is: which followed a 30-minute discussion we enjoyed in his suite at the W Hotel in Abu Dhabi during the 2020 season finale. That was cut short as he desperately wanted to get trackside to watch his cars (and son) in action, but he promised to make amends – which he said would after his honeymoon – his second marriage – on the island of Mustique.

Roy Salvadori, Aston Martin, Silverstone, 1960
Aston Martin’s last F1 race was over 60 years ago
“We didn’t have many guests,” he tells me via Zoom from the Caribbean. “It was a very small wedding [due to] these times and travel restrictions. It was just a few close friends and family, but it was it was a lovely wedding – great weekend and a lot of them rented other homes on the island. We’re still seeing them on a regular basis.”

Familial pleasantries aside, it is clear Stroll has major aspirations for the Aston Martin brand, and views an F1 return as an integral part of the rebuilding process, an ambition which extends well beyond providing a cockpit for his son. What, then, are these objectives?

“Firstly, to bring the Aston Martin name back to Formula 1 is, I think, the biggest thing that’s happened to Formula 1 in decades. It’s not just another start-up team; it’s a team with a 107-year history, globally recognised as a pre-eminent leading luxury and performance brand.

“The whole history of Aston Martin, the DNA this whole company was based around racing, when they raced up Aston Clinton Hill; winning Le Mans in 1959 with Carroll Shelby [and the DBR1].”

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Paddy Lowe, Lawrence Stroll, Bahrain, 2018
Lawrence moved Lance from Williams after buying Racing Point
Stroll made his name by building brands with undervalued assets, and clearly this is one such project – in tandem with (re)building the shell of the team that was Force India and Spyker, Midland and Jordan before that.

“Not many people understand what it is to return a team to Formula 1, the financial magnitude and everything that goes with it. My plans and ambitions I made very clear when I became majority shareholder and executive chairman of [AML]. We’ve already checked many of those boxes.

“Since I started last April, it was monumental, the transformation, and I think it’s fair to say it was equally done to the Formula 1 team: last year to end the season fourth, and challenging what I think we deserved to be, third. You know, we had some bad luck, a couple of engines blowing the last few races.”

RaceFans exclusively revealed Stroll’s interest in investing in AML in December 2019. Would he have bought AML had he not already acquired the F1 team?

He pauses, then answers: “Good question. What really helped make the decision is one plus one equals three. I thought one of the ways to help transform the road car company was by having a Formula 1 team to market it. I was able to look at it through a different set of glasses than perhaps some of the other competitive bidders [of Force India] with this plan in mind.”

After further introspection the admission: “Probably yes, but not as quickly.”

His track record across various businesses is of a winner, and clearly that is the ultimate target for the team and brand. The next question is whether Aston Martin can win regularly on merit and titles as a customer-partner of Mercedes F1 Team, whether or not its parent company is a major shareholder in AML. Forget not that Aston Martin F1 Team is privately held – by seven high-rollers – while AML is publicly listed.

Sergio Perez, Racing Point, Bahrain International Circuit, 2020
Stroll wants regular podiums and more wins in 2021
During the topsy-turvy Sakhir Grand Prix the (since departed) Sergio Perez provided the team with its first victory under Stroll’s leadership. Does that suffice, or does he harbour loftier ambitions for 2021?

“I think the first step towards winning next year will be regularly being on the podium, winning a few races – as we saw, we were capable of doing this – then constantly knocking on the door of second.”

Then he asks rhetorically, “Do I think we can beat Mercedes? Certainly not next year. We’re all very big realists. You know, with the new rule changes in 2022, we don’t know what they will mean exactly. The intent is to bring the field closer; will it succeed?

“If it succeeds, I think we can give anybody – not only Mercedes, [but] it could be Red Bull, could be Ferrari – a run for their money.”

The rebranding of the team to Aston Martin has done wonders for staff morale, he says, referencing “The transformation simple things like changing the name at the front gate [have done], redoing the reception, everybody getting new [clothing], everybody talking about British Racing Green; it’s like everybody just found an eighth gear. Winning is what I just described.”

There are, though inevitable comparisons with Ferrari, with automotive commentators oft referring to Aston Martin as ‘Green Ferrari’. A major difference apart from, of course, shareholder structures – both are listed but Ferrari’s F1 team is a division within the main company – is Ferrari operates out of one location, whereas AML’s Gaydon base and AMF1 (Silverstone) are almost 30 miles apart. Has Stroll considered bringing both operations under one roof?

“We did look at that prior to buying the extra 30 or whatever acres that we bought around the current (AMF1) factory at Silverstone. But, the heart of a Formula 1 team is its people, and due to the geographical living of [our] 500 employees, we said the detriment would outweigh any benefits because we would lose a lot of people who would not be prepared to drive an hour and a half each way [per day] or relocate.

“Silverstone is the Silicon Valley of Formula 1 teams; it’s all there within 20 minutes, all the engineering geniuses are based there, so to move out of that seemed contradictory and non-beneficial to the Formula 1 team, so from a premises point of view will be building there and staying at Silverstone.”

In closing I risk Lawrence’s wrath by posing the question every RaceFans reader deserves to have answered: is Lance a member of Aston Martin F1 Team on merit, and not because he is the boss’s son. His response, published here earlier today, is illuminating.

We end the first specialist F1 media interview granted by Lawrence Stroll – classic car connoisseur, fashion magnate, car company boss, F1 team owner, committed petrol-head, father of a F1 racer, recent bridegroom – well over allocated time. Don’t kid yourself: he was forceful, but open to taxing questions

Above all, during the interview he dispelled the notion that F1 is simply a playground for playboy billionaires and their play-sons – Lawrence Stroll is fundamentally a self-made man who knows when to invest and when to retreat. Don’t bet against his making a huge success of both AML and AMF1.

I was left with the distinct feeling that he will do whatever it takes to achieve his objectives. Having watched his progression in F1 – from clothing sponsor to team owner – over a period of almost 30 years that is not said lightly.

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39 comments on “‘Aston Martin’s return is the biggest thing to happen to F1 for decades’: Lawrence Stroll interview”

  1. I think I got a record player for my 18th not a clothing label so ‘self made’ is a bit overplayed but i’m a big fan of Stroll snr (why the name change? I can only (heart-sink) guess). Hes effectively saved AML and is upping the anti at Racing Point. I’m not however a big fan of badge engineering, provenance is everything with cars, but if he takes it to the man then who cares. We need more Stroll snr’s in F1 and less manufacturers wagging the f1 dog for their SUV tech. Lovely piece though Dieter, thanks

    1. Can someone please tell me with mercedes engine at the back of the car, what is it that is really great about aston martin returning to F1! is just financial jugglery TBH…

      thats just what it is..

      its not like a BMW, or a Honda.. its like infiniti branding.. or alpine.. end of the day its marketing.. engine is still renault..!

      1. You could say that about most of the teams on the grid, even Mercedes is really a Honda which was previously a cigarette brands folly. Only Ferrari, McLaren & Williams are what they say they are. I hated the ‘lotus’ return as it was nothing of the sort but to be honest theres bigger things in f1 to sort than this

        1. Team Woking, Team Brackley, Team Enstone, Team Milton Keynes, Team Grove, Team Silverstone, etc, etc

  2. It’s so hard to take a guy like this seriously when he’s in constant salesman mode. I love his ambition and his commitment, but statements like the one in the title are just so over-the-top it’s impossible to take them seriously. How is it any bigger than even Alfa Romeo returning as a title sponsor a few years ago? Essentially the same thing, as neither Sauber nor Racing Point are on the same level as actual factory owned teams. Maybe they will be at some point, but given how RP designed last years car that’s nowhere near the truth at this moment. And I’m even purposely ignoring that it was only 2009 that Mercedes returned as a factory team and absolutely dominated the sport for almost a full decade now. Get to that level and only THEN can you make a claim like this in earnest.

    But even besides that, how is it bigger news than Liberty Media buying the entire sport from Bernie’s investment friends and taking over, in what world is this on that level?

    Just, you don’t need to make these kinds of statements. You don’t need to constantly sell yourself. You won a race last year, got some podiums, let the results speak for you. Boast with realistic accomplishments.

    1. @aiii Hadn’t seen your comment about Liberty Media’s takeover as being far far bigger than Stroll’s bringing AM to F1, and I have made a similar comment lower down on this page that agrees with you.

      I don’t disagree that he is coming off a bit over-the-top, even setting aside his best-thing-to-happen-to-F1-in-decades rhetoric, but I don’t think we should be surprised that he is that stoked about this project, and that in his mind this will be a top 3 team for years and years to come, as in, he wants it to become every bit as iconic as Ferrari and Mercedes have become. Tall order, sure, but he doesn’t see limits or ceilings I’m sure. I hear you about ‘boast with realistic accomplishments’ but I think he is already considering the group he put together, and the takeover of Racing Point, and the takeover of AM and tying the entity to F1 along with the investors that have kicked in, as a huge accomplishment already. ie. expect more boast from Stroll over the months and years, lol, as he expands the team and it’s facilities.

      Imho all he has to do now is get making his own cars and stop the degree of tracing that they opted for last year and this. And, unless I’ve missed something, won’t they have to do that for 2022? They won’t have a previous Mercedes car to trace, and that’s just as well if he really needs to be boasting about realistic accomplishments.

      1. Its all about the name, and the kudos it still conveys, its Cachet. The suckers it encourages to part with their cash.

        Austin Martin, Bond, shaken not stired. The myth and the life style.

        On the other hand, a few people will see Austin Martin on the same stage as Mercedes, and think quality, now which do i chose?

    2. The Correct One
      13th January 2021, 18:59

      7 years isn’t nearly a full decade. 97 years is nearly a full century.

    3. Fully agree.

  3. ‘Aston Martin’s return is the biggest thing to happen to F1 for decades’

    I would have said the introduction of the life-saving halo. But hey, what do I know?

    1. Yeah, the halo is looking like a big deal Liberty Media and Mercedes probably think they were big deals too.

  4. There’s something really odd with that photo. Uncanny valley.

    1. A lot of image post-processing will do that to a photo.

  5. I remember reading back in 1994 that the (then un-named) boss of Tommy Hilfiger had been on his way to buy Team Lotus from the administrator, but turned back when he heard that Johnny Herbert’s contract had been sold to Tom Walkinshaw. Whether that’s true or not, I don’t know.

    I’d struggle to agree that Aston Martin (re-) joining F1 is the biggest deal. It was fairly hopeless first time around and I find the James Bond connection tiresome. The 007 cliche (misogynous, reckless gambler, ruthless killer) is in danger of being toxic. Jac Nasser’s idea that there would be a sea of green flags for Jaguar fell flat. At least there won’t be a layer of Ford execs thinking they know how to run an F1 team. I still use Gary Anderson’s anecdote about research at Jaguar being valued by the report thickness in my assessment of R&D projects.

    “it’s like everybody just found an eighth gear” : he’s not a technical/details guy is he?

    1. Stephen Higgins
      13th January 2021, 12:56

      The mention of Jaguar is very appropriate. History doesn’t repeat but it does rhyme, as Mark Twain once said.

      British car manufactures are not bottomless money pits.

      Stroll isn’t the first rich person to think that he can make a success out of Aston Martin (or the former Jordan team) and he won’t be the last. If I hadn’t seen it before multiple times I would be more optimistic.

  6. Stephen Higgins
    13th January 2021, 12:52

    Being a lifelong fan of Aston Martin, I should be be as stoked for the name coming back into F1 as I was with Jaguar in the 2000’s.

    But …

    I fear the moment the plucky underdog ‘Jordan’ spirit has died, and the team was consumed by this uncomfortable rhetoric of the Strolls was after Checo finished 1st in Sakhir, it took 18 seconds for the race engineer to say “Lance P3, Lance P3”.

    The directions and choices Lawrence has made while in charge of it have effectively destroyed the spirit of the team so I’d argue there still isn’t a Racing Point or Aston Martin even with Lawrence Stroll, in a significant way. Hence why he is a major factor in potentially even making them bad guys, which goes against everything this team and the proud heritage of the name should stand for.

    While there’s probably nothing to read into it. I feel it just highlights where the higher management’s focus is at. And as F1 fans, I feel we’re not comfortable with a more capable driver being overlooked for non-performance reasons, just doesn’t sit well.

    After all, money doesn’t buy popularity – at least, not on the scale that’s required here. And when it comes to developing an aspirational brand, you need to take the majority with you and not just the minority who might be able to afford an Aston Martin. Winning will build support, but the way you go about it builds a legend.

    The ingredients are there for Aston Martin not only to make good on its potential, but also to become a favourite team. The addition of Vettel, a likable character who hopefully will be revitalised by the change of scene, should augment that and there’s every chance Aston Martin can go one better than it did in 2020.

    1. Yeh that win really ruined it

  7. Man I’ve struggled to write this comment…my lawyer brain says I’m verging on saying things that are libellous!

    As much as I want to like Stroll, he’s a really successful guy and I think there are obviously many things I could learn from him, in his rare interviews he comes across terribly. Forceful, brash, abrupt. But also strangely thin skinned as evidenced by the referenced video after “Pink Mercedes” ruling. This doesn’t surprise me, corporate top dogs of his vintage are often thus. The best way I can describe how he comes across in my mind is like Gordon Gecko…if he was a mafia boss. Something just doesn’t sit right…I can’t work out his motives, though I’m sure they are just to make loads of cash and give Lance an F1 career.

    I’m not wishing Aston Martin ill, I love the brand in fact, but Stroll is making it hard for me to want to support the team.

    1. @geemac Regarding your suggestion of his motives, of course the two you describe are likely true, for of course he’s always been all about making big money. His ilk tend towards that. And of course yes it did turn out that his son has loved racing enough since he was a kid to have taken what his Dad has given him and run with it. But as I have hinted at, I think another main motive is very clear. LS and his son love cars, F1, and racing. You don’t do what they have done just because you have the money. There’s a definite passion there too. And has been since well before Lance was born. And I’m quite sure Stroll Snr. has every intention of making this team a top team and keeping it there well well beyond his son’s racing career.

    2. @geemac he seems like a run of the mill billionaire to me, they rarely come across as nice guys with rounded personalities. The self-made man trope is, as usual, a ridiculous fallacy. Stroll is about as self-made as Donald trump.

      People like Stroll have made their money by making ruthless decisions, luck or having loads to begin with. In relation to F1, or indeed any other sport, these traits are not necessarily beneficial to owning a team. He may not be a bad team owner and he probably saved force India from ruin, but I can’t shake the feeling that if Lance stops driving for any reason then the whole family will take its ball home and no one will get to play any more. But I hope my pessimism us misplaced.

      1. @frood19 I don’t necessarily think he’ll leave once Lance decides he wants to be an astronaut, an international DJ, a monk or whatever takes his fancy next. Papa Stroll knows the value of having his brands in F1, as the article points out he’s been involved since the early 90s, so even after Lance decides to leave F1 he will continue to be involved I think.

      2. @frood19 Imho yes your pessimism is misplaced. I don’t see Lawrence getting out of F1 once his son stops driving. You make it sound like this is just a frivolous hobby for them, and I think nothing could be further from the truth.

        @geemac Similar to my comment to frood, I think you make a wholly unfair comment about Lance’s next ‘fancy.’ Put another way, if it is that frivolous for Lance (and therefore Lawrence), and all he did one day was decide he wanted to be a race car driver just because he fancies that for the time being, and so his Dad made it so, then I’d have to say he’s quite the incredible person, to be able to be as good as he is with that having only been a career decision made on a whim.

        More likely I think, is that once Lance is done racing, Aston Martin will be his team to run.

  8. So, after ‘Pink Mercedes’ we now have ‘Green Ferrari’…well. Anyway, I can actually relate rather closely to your surprise at that returned call @RacingLines…sounds much like when Charlie responded to my rant letter back in 2007, when I was total nobody…which I still am :-)

  9. Lawrence Stroll is fundamentally a self-made man

    Yep, because we all get given a business with a fashion label at 18 to do our best with. Respect none the less for what he did with it. But I would hardly call that self-made. I was gifted an IOU to pay for my license test…

    Fair article none the less and good to know some more of his history. It is good to know that he has a passion for racing before F1 and isn’t just solely a marketing/business guy.

    1. Heh, yeah I thought exactly the same. He’s done well, but had a leg-up most don’t.

  10. Ha! AM’s history in F1 is brief and barely significant. Lotus and Alfa Romeo returns are faaar more bigger.

  11. Does Lawrence stroll live in an alternate universe or is he just really really arrogant?

    1. it is the mainly the latter which results in the former (same as with the Orange president). But under all the veneer of power/money/success, lies always a scarred bullied boy.

      1. As well as big-noting, he whines the same way when things aren’t going his way. If I was in charge of pushing the brand I’d get someone else to do the talking.

  12. There’s no question that Stroll has had a net positive impact on the Silverstone based team since he took over but overall the more he talks the less I like him and the more I think he sounds like a two bit hustler trying to convince people he’s a bigger deal than he is.

  13. I really have no issue with the Stroll’s and their money, and, debate about Lance’s worthiness aside, Snr’s injection of money into the whole effort as discussed in Dieter’s interview can and is only good if not great for F1. That said, sorry Mr. Stroll but imho the biggest thing to happen to F1 in decades has been the removal of BE, about 10 years past his sell by date, and the replacement with an entity that actually cared to and has/is indeed addressing all the major issues F1 had accumulated over decades, that we’ve all known about, with all the teams’ blessings after their fair chances at negotiating, and which will make for a much better product on the track and a sustainable F1 within which the Stroll’s et al get to play and from which we fans will benefit.

  14. Hey Dieter, thanks for the great interview!

  15. Another great article. Thanks, Dieter!

  16. Dieter (@dieterrencken), This is a very nice article.

  17. Bruno ASMartVet
    13th January 2021, 23:07

    Desr Dieter!
    This is an interesting, although unusually fuzzy article. Would you kindly clarify this:

    ”… but he promised to make amends – which he said would after his honeymoon – his second marriage – on the island of Mustique.
    “We didn’t have many guests,” he tells me via Zoom from the Caribbean. “It was a very small wedding [due to] these times and travel restrictions. It was just a few close friends and family, but it was it was a lovely wedding – great weekend and a lot of them rented other homes on the island. We’re still seeing them on a regular basis.”

    Thanks in advance!

  18. I really enjoyed that article.

    And I have little doubt that Aston Martin are going to become a force in F1, something akin to the Red Bull team.

  19. On the Marbles
    14th January 2021, 16:19


    Aston Martin may well be one of the worlds most distinctive and ‘coolest’ brands (so I’ve read) but in terms of the history of F1 they are a minor footnote with six races competed and zero points over sixty years ago . To suggest that this return is the “biggest thing to happen in F1 in decades” is exaggerated hyperbole to say the least. I might revise that opinion if they go on to win a couple of championships in the next few years, otherwise….

    But until they do something to justify this somewhat preemtive claim here’s a list of things that have happened in F1 in the last two decades that are almost certainly ‘bigger’ than the return of AMR, or at the very least are of comparable note: Although granted some of them didn’t seem big at the outset, but then neither does this, the proof will be in AMR’s future results

    The return of Mercedes, the return of Lotus, the return of Renault (twice), the return of Alfa Romeo, the return of Honda (twice) as a works team and engine supplier, all of whom have far more illustrious F1 histories than AMR

    Michael Schumacher’s run of success at Ferrari culminating in his seemingly unassailable haul of wins and WDC’s

    Followed by Lewis Hamilton surpassing/equalling Schumacher’s wins and WDC’s with Mercedes.

    The entry of Red Bull Racing into the sport

    Fernando Alonso arrives

    Sebastian Vettel arrives

    Max Verstappen arrives

    The tyre war resulting in a single supplier contract

    The introduction of hybrid power (for good or bad)

    The sale of F1 to Liberty Media

    Bernie Ecclestone leaves

    I’m sure there are plenty more…..

  20. A good read, and this is quite interesting “Stroll made his name by building brands with undervalued assets” (before listing and selling).

    If it weren’t for his son racing, one might be suspicious the whole operation is just in order to flip the team for a profit. Explains the Vettel choice as well, but then I guess it will also prove worthwhile results-wise as well as marketing.

    Got to hand it to Stroll. The Mercedes deal is great, and I believe him when people get properly motivated to be Aston Martin.

    Btw, was it his idea to copy Mercedes car?

  21. Coventry Climax
    15th January 2021, 15:08

    Saw Stroll in the Netflix series and my first reaction to it was: ‘My, there’s a real inspiring character.’
    My wife watched it with me and she’s used to my cynicism.
    They will need an awful lot of results over an awful lot of years before the claim in the title starts to come true.
    Can’t see either Lance or Seb doing this for them. Or ‘British’ Racing Green, for that matter.

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