Consolation from Hamilton “means a bit more” for Norris

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In the round-up: Lando Norris says he was especially grateful for Lewis Hamilton’s sympathetic words after he missed out on victory in the Russian Grand Prix.

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Norris grateful for Hamilton’s consolation

Hamilton praised Norris after the McLaren driver narrowly lose victory at the last round of the championship in Sochi. Norris told ITV’s This Morning he was grateful for the sympathy from a driver he “looked up to” early in his career

“Coming from Lewis, because he was the guy I watched growing up – and he’s Lewis, a seven-time world champion – to hear what he had to say because he’s been through many scenarios, probably even worse in some cases but I guess in my way it feels worse because it’s that first win that you just want to really get…

“Many drivers said I did a good job and my time will come which I obviously head a lot of. But when it comes from someone that you looked up to or you know has been through it then it definitely means a bit more.”

Triple-headers acceptable if we have stable calendar – Steiner

Start, Albert Park, Melbourne, 2019
Information: 2022 F1 calendar
Haas team principal Guenther Steiner is prepared to accept more triple-header rounds on the 2022 F1 calendar providing the sport can stick to its schedule for the first time since 2019. The last two championships have been disrupted due to the pandemic.

“My first wish is that the pandemic goes away, not only for Formula 1 but the world,” said Steiner. That people are not dying or getting sick from Covid anymore and that we can all return to a normal life.

“The second is for Formula 1, and that we can have a stable calendar. If we have a stable calendar, even if there are some events back-to-back or triple-headers, if you know exactly what is coming you can plan a lot better than always having this uncertainty.”

Formula E viewing figures rise

Formula E reported a cumulative audience of 316 million viewers for its 2021 season, a 32% rise compared to the previous championship, which was severely curtailed due to the pandemic. It credited the increase to changes in its broadcasting arrangements in markets including the UK, USA, Germany, Italy, France, Brazil and Indonesia. Its races on the British free-to-air channels BBC2 and Channel 4 yielded its largest audiences to date in the country.

Hamilton’s foundation begins drive to recruit black teachers

Mission 44, the foundation established by Lewis Hamilton to promoting young people from under-represented backgrounds, has begun a two-year partnership with Teach First to recruit 150 black teachers in science, technology, engineering and mathematics.

“Our work with Teach First is another step towards addressing barriers preventing young black students’ engagement with STEM, as identified in The Hamilton Commission report,” said Hamilton.

“We know representation and role models are important across all aspects of society, but especially when it comes to supporting young people’s development. By establishing this partnership, which focuses on identifying the best way to attract black talent to STEM teaching roles, we hope to create a framework the wider education industry can implement. It’s our hope other organisations recruiting teachers will support and join us on our mission to see more diversity in the classroom.”

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  • 26 comments on “Consolation from Hamilton “means a bit more” for Norris”

    1. Over the years I’ve read quite a few comments saying “Hamilton should put his money where his mouth is”, well it appears he is, however I don’t expect those commenters will be praising him for doing it. Are you still here, and will you ?

      1. @hohum

        Good call. While never malicious, I was a sceptic, still am to a point, as I dont condone any race based programs (I should point out that I am, in 2021, for the lack of a better a description, Person of Colour, because it is what defines me, according to the internet anyway). Thats just my opinion.

        However, if Lewis is spending is own money in pursuit of his personal passion, I applaud him for that. Instead of complaining, he’s taking action in an effort to make a difference which is important to him. Each to their own.

      2. I’ve never said that “Hamilton should put his money where his mouth is” (I did find though that he should put his plane where he lives), but I’m a bit sceptical about this specific development.

        Uni’s and Colleges should hire the best teachers independent of the colour of their skin.
        I’m totally in favour of scholarships for the disadvantaged, and other ways to break down barriers. But please let’s not go the Instagram way and present a fake reality so the viewers/students think everything is OK.
        It might even work against them, as often happens with women in senior positions; they’ll be accused of only being in that position due to their gender/colour.

      3. Do you not see that society already promotes one race over others?
        This is about an equal starting line, not giving minorities a hand-out or free pass.

      4. It’s called addressing a vast imbalance.

      5. @Aapje that is a completely and totally unacceptable comment and you know it is. Utterly contemptible to compare funding proven initiatives to give opportunities and inspiration where it’s documentedly lacking to systemic, violent racial oppression.

    2. Istanbul could be a good place, a dry race could end up stale otherwise.

    3. Richard Mille thanks Romain Grosjean for his tweet.

      1. Indeed @geemac. If he was one of my friends, I’d be like yes yes Romain, we all know you burnt your hand, no need to go on about it!

        1. We all seem to go on about certain things ;)
          congrats with the CotD.

      2. So that isn’t an ice pack on his wrist?

      3. My first thought was, ugh, what an ugly watch. Then I noticed the burn.

    4. Triple-headers or not, stability is what I also want, i.e., that race calendar wouldn’t alter past the previous year’s last WMSC meeting, especially during a season.

      The hand is easier to look at now than a few months back. I didn’t immediately look away anymore.

      Mercedes should take the hit for Hamilton as a precaution if they are skeptical about reliability lasting until the end.

      Coincidently, Singtel was the Singapore GP title sponsor for the first six editions.

      DRS will get removed eventually. The reason for keeping is to see how well the next car concept can follow IRL.
      Otherwise, COTD is pretty accurate.

    5. Supportive words to Norris was maybe good, but having been just cheated out of your first win, and having the eventual winner come grinning up to you can’t possibly have been nice.

      1. (I’m sure I’ll regret this)
        “cheated out of your first win” ?

      2. Norris was the one who went up to Hamilton in parc fermé after the race. And Hamilton spoke to him mid-interview precisely because he realised Norris was standing next to him in the pen for their respective press calls and didn’t want to rub it in.

      3. He was not cheated out of his first win, he lost fair and square.

      4. If by “cheated” you mean that Lando made the wrong call on tyres and shouted “No!” at the team when they asked him about going to Inters after Bottas switched, the yes he was cheated but his own mistake.

        I say this as a McLaren and Lando fan who was heartbroken but Lando has himself to blame for telling the team to shut up as they were trying to give him weather updates that would prove to be critical. McLaren should learn from this and have a system in place to override a drivers decision based on what they see on the pit wall that the driver can’t see.

    6. Look at those two brave athletes hugging it out without masks. It’s a beautiful thing to see.

    7. @hazelsouthwell

      That is actually the logical outcome. Just because you have different ideals, doesn’t mean that the outcome is different.

      And to those who don’t know what this is about, a bunch of comments have been removed.

      1. @aapje absolutely not.

        It is offensive, dismissive and ignorant to pretend you cannot understand the difference between attempts to redress an existing imbalance that disadvantages a specific group and violent colonial oppression.

        Comments that attempt to compare funding STEM teachers with apartheid will continue to be removed.

        1. @aapje

          It is abject rubbish to say that training STEM teachers is promoting racial violence. End of.

          I come from a region crisscrossed with ethnic conflict and was made a child refugee by an ethnic war, please stop trivialising genuine situations with your offensive and crass comparisons simply because you do not like diversity initiatives. It is offensive and is not acceptable.

          1. @hazelsouthwell

            Your ideology believes that having white teachers harms non-white students, having white managers hurts non-white workers, etc. This is why they need teachers & managers of the same skin color. In fact, your slightly more radical colleagues in the US are already segregating college students in dorms, since they also believe that white students hurt non-white students.

            As there are only a limited quantity of non-white teachers and managers & since your ideology claims that the harm persists as long as the harmful white people interact with non-white people, you can only achieve your Utopia by segregating society by skin color/ethnicity/race.

            With the motivation for this segregation being that socio-economically successful racial groups harm less successful racial groups, your ideology is not all that different from other ideologies that advocated racial segregation. In fact, the arguments are eerily similar to classic antisemitism (they help their own race and hurt other races, harm society as a whole and hoard wealth & power). It is also eerily similar to the ideology that produced the policy that can’t be named.

            The entire narrative that certain ethnic groups harm other ethnic groups, motivates people to commit violence. We’ve seen that historically and we see that today, for example, the substantial black-on-Asian and black-on-Jew violence in the US, which is carefully covered up by the media as much as possible & falsely blamed on white conservatives (like the Atlanta spa shooting that was presented as racially motivated by the media, because the perpetrator and most of the victims had the ‘right’ race to spin a narrative around, when the evidence was strongly against that narrative).

            I come from a region crisscrossed with ethnic conflict and was made a child refugee by an ethnic war,

            And Michael Jackson was abused by his father, yet he wasn’t exactly able to have a healthy relationship with children (regardless of whether he abused children, he certainly wasn’t able to have a proper adult-child relationship).

            Your background doesn’t automatically make you wise, because most people are not capable of understanding how people work, nor how policies actually work out. They prefer easy answers, especially if their goal is Utopia.

            The logical outcome of Hamilton’s program is that black people are pulled out of mixed environments and then put in front of non-white classes, carefully segregated so most non-white people get to have a non-white teacher. After all, the latter is the actual goal, not to have white people be taught by a non-white teacher, so it is logical to assume that people will do what achieves the actual goal the best.

            This is really very basic. If you have one black STEM teacher at a school, you can have them teach a mixed class, which means that he can’t teach other mixed classes, so the non-white students in those classes don’t get the alleged benefit of being taught by a black teacher. According to your and Lewis’ ideology, that is harmful for those students. If you instead put all non-white students in one class and have it be taught by a black person, then more people benefit. Again, that is me taking your ideology seriously and simply drawing logical conclusions from the claims that are being made.

            The irony is that people like me get yelled at for actually noticing what the goal is and noticing how people are most likely going to achieve that goal, getting called a liar by people whose predictions come true far less often than mine (or who simply pretend that people with mostly the same ideology are not doing the things that I’m warning about, elsewhere).

        2. part 2:

          I come from a region crisscrossed with ethnic conflict and was made a child refugee by an ethnic war,

          And Michael Jackson was abused by his father, yet he wasn’t exactly able to have a healthy relationship with children (regardless of whether he abused children, he certainly wasn’t able to have a proper adult-child relationship).

          Your background doesn’t automatically make you wise, because most people are not capable of understanding how people work, nor how policies actually work out. They prefer easy answers, especially if their goal is Utopia.

          The logical outcome of Hamilton’s program is that black people are pulled out of mixed environments and then put in front of non-white classes, carefully segregated so most non-white people get to have a non-white teacher. After all, the latter is the actual goal, not to have white people be taught by a non-white teacher, so it is logical to assume that people will do what achieves the actual goal the best.

          This is really very basic. If you have one black STEM teacher at a school, you can have them teach a mixed class, which means that he can’t teach other mixed classes, so the non-white students in those classes don’t get the alleged benefit of being taught by a black teacher. According to your and Lewis’ ideology, that is harmful for those students. If you instead put all non-white students in one class and have it be taught by a black person, then more people benefit. Again, that is me taking your ideology seriously and simply drawing logical conclusions from the claims that are being made.

          The irony is that people like me get yelled at for actually noticing what the goal is and noticing how people are most likely going to achieve that goal, getting called names by people whose predictions come true far less often than mine (or who simply pretend that people with mostly the same ideology are not doing the things that I’m warning about, elsewhere).

          1. part 3:

            Note that the black people that Lewis wants to turn into STEM teachers are generally already going to be interested in and/or talented in STEM, because that’s going to make the program the most successful and is going to be easier. People generally do what works best and is easiest.

            So the program will most likely simply remove black STEM talent from mixed environments and then put them in front of segregated classes, so the net result is not actually going to be that STEM will be more black, but rather, make it more segregated.

        3. Absolutely no fantasist tracts on this are going to be hosted, sorry. Please, when you get told to stop doing something, stop it.

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