Pirelli’s kerb concerns remain ahead of race despite Yas Marina changes

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In the round-up: Formula 1’s official tyre supplier Pirelli remain concerned about the design of certain kerbs at the Yas Marina circuit despite revisions to them ahead of Saturday’s running.

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Pirelli not satisfied with Yas kerb changes

Following the first day of practice at the Yas Marina circuit Pirelli’s head of motorsport Mario Isola said he was in discussions with the FIA over certain “aggressive” kerbs at the remodelled track. He named turns five and nine as areas of particular concern due to similarities with the kerbs used at the Losail International Circuit where four drivers suffered punctures during the Qatar Grand Prix.

Ahead of Saturday’s running at Yas Marina alterations were made which included easing the inner part of the twin-row kerbs. However a Pirelli spokesperson told RaceFans they were not satisfied with the solution and were still discussing the again with the FIA.

No F1 drivers have suffered punctures during the first two days of running this weekend. However this was also the case in Qatar prior to the failures, following which Pirelli noted no driver had conducted practice runs of comparable length to race stints prior to the grand prix.

Vettel criticises driving standards in qualifying

After Esteban Ocon was reprimanded for impeding him – and Vettel was cleared for delaying Pierre Gasly – the Aston Martin driver claimed F1’s regular qualifying problem occurs due to “too many cars in the same spot, and always the same people jumping queues. Nothing else.”

Vettel said the queues, which saw the Aston Martin driver have to almost stop on track, happen when drivers “jump, jump, jump and then you run out of track. Same happened in Saudi, same happened in Austria, same happened many times this year.”

F1 drivers, Vettel said, should behave to a higher standard on-track. “I think we should know the track and how many corners are to come, but it doesn’t feel like it when there’s only one or two corners to go and everybody jumps each other and then gets surprised to stop in the last corners.”

Sainz “very, very happy” to compete for fifth in first Ferrari season

Carlos Sainz Jnr goes into the final race of 2021 just 8.5 points behind Ferrari team mate Charles Leclerc and 4.5 points behind former McLaren team mate Lando Norris, the trio competing for fifth place in the world drivers’ championship.

Sainz acknowledged he would “need something weird to happen” to his team mate to claim fifth, “which I don’t want because I don’t want any chance of McLaren getting ahead in the constructors, so I just want to finish the season on a high.”

“Today, the homework is done with our strong quali and tomorrow with a strong race,” Sainz continued. “We go to the winter break very, very happy independently of where I finish in the championship.

“To be in the fight for P5 already, with Lando and Charles and it’s their third year in the car and actually have a chance of beating them in the drivers’ already means it is a positive year and I just need to focus on getting a good season finale to go into winter break confident.”

Deledda given three-place grid drop for feature race

Alessio Deledda picked up a penalty for the final Formula 2 race of the year after he was found wholly responsible for contact with Olli Caldwell during the second sprint race. The incident, at turn nine, saw Deledda move into Caldwell’s path while defending. The stewards ruled Caldwell was significantly ahead at the time.

Despite the grid place drop, Deledda’s starting position for the feature race will not change, as he had qualified last.

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Ahead of F1’s closest title fight for 47 years, DaveW says it’s Formula 1 as a whole – and interest in the sport – that’s going to win, regardless of who lifts the trophy.

Great story of redemption for Jeddah Q3. What twists this season has. And it also shows, if you just looks at the races and the data, that RBR was really back in the saddle after Qatar. That Q3 slip up and the decision to go on the mediums really flattered Mercedes there. And here they really either sandbagged or had the track come to them massively in the cooler weather.

Either way the car is just as good now as ever and the top drivers are really on par. The best drivers in different but equal cars is kind of the ideal for F1. A complete competition between drivers and constructors. Just hope we have a clean duel tomorrow so the season ends on a high note for both contenders whoever wins. I can say that whoever wins, for different reasons, it will be a good story. To be honest I’m kind of looking forward to it ending as this has been a bit stressful!
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20 comments on “Pirelli’s kerb concerns remain ahead of race despite Yas Marina changes”

  1. Regarding queue jumping, this is already getting stupid. Get out first and do your laps if you do not want trouble. It’s nobody’s fault that you did not get a lap in because you went out too late and mismanaged the outlap. Gentleman’s agreement is just getting rubbish because apparently nobody follows them.

    1. I agree – there’s a saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

      This has been going on for years now and still teams leave it to the very last second to send their driver out. We’ve even seen occasions where drivers don’t even get to the start line in time but still they persist in this silliness.

      To me the smart move would be to get out when there’s minimal traffic and have an uninterrupted warm up and hot lap but pretty much no one tries it.

      1. That’s been Russell’s trick when he’s made it to q3 and it’s worked wonders. One would think the teams have all the data as to the advantage of a clean outlap vs the extra track rubber/temp, it must be worth the gamble of being caught out or they wouldn’t be doing it. It’s easy to say what the right tactic is from our arm-chairs.

    2. I agree @krichelle – I have always said that finding enough space for a clear lap is part of the challenge of qualifying, especially in this format.

  2. That piece in The Guardian was cheerful.

  3. Re: Pagenaud’s quip about in-laps and IndyCar’s timing line (which I agree is clever), I’ve always thought it was cooling and recharging the hybrid systems that prevented F1 from adopting the same. However, why not mandate that ERS systems can only be charged by plugging in to an electrical outlet in the pits during quali? It seems there would be sporting and commercial benefits to having F1 cars be true plug-in hybrids.

    1. Think you need to and discover how hybrid system works. The drivers can only use battery power in the pit lane and is used every time the cars accelerate. The batteries would be half empty by the time they started their qualifying run.

  4. Q2 traffic was another of F1’s awful jokes.
    This is a live racing circuit, nobody should be driving that slowly – and certainly not stopping completely as Vettel did.

    Why can’t F1/FIA just enforce their own Sporting Regulations and the International Sporting Code?
    So much of both documents are routinely ignored.

  5. Bring back one lap qualifying for the top ten. Problem sorted!

      1. Imagine your reaction when my driver goes out first on a dry circuit, and then before your driver gets his turn the heavens open. i.e. A good Spa w/end.

        1. It is what it is. At least they would be guaranteed to start in the top ten.

          Much rather see a full one lap from the fastest ten cars than the absolute poop show we see now – it looks so amateurish.

          1. And we usually only get to see Hamilton and Verstappen anyway.
            It’s like nobody else in F1 exists.

    1. I agree. I like that style of qualifying.
      No qualifying format could be more sportingly pure, which is why I find it so baffling that F1’s purest supporters don’t like it.

      If shootouts are ‘boring’ – we can surmise that it can only be because the cars themselves are boring.
      In which case, we can go one step further and ask that if multiple cars are required on the track (race-style) to make qualifying ‘good’ – then why the resistance to sprints?

    2. For Monza so that we don’t get traffic jams, yes.

  6. The WDC battle, especially recently, has been somewhat stressful, so yes, the ending is positive in some ways.

  7. Re: Pirelli tyres
    Another case of unintended consequences.
    Short practice sessions,
    no long runs to test tyres towards ‘end of life’,
    Punctures in race.

    1. Not relevant @w-k.
      They don’t stress tyres in practice the way they do in a race, regardless of how long the practice sessions are.
      With the stupid engine rules limiting their running, the cars wouldn’t even be on the track for that extra time.

  8. it’s Formula 1 as a whole – and interest in the sport – that’s going to win, regardless of who lifts the trophy.

    Cotd didn’t age well… I’d say most neutrals or people with a passing interest are only talking about F1 in a negative light right now!

  9. Coventry Climax
    13th December 2021, 9:47

    Typical for Pirelli to worry about something other than themselves or their product.

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