Leclerc to take grid penalty at Canadian Grand Prix after further parts change

13 comments on “Leclerc to take grid penalty at Canadian Grand Prix after further parts change”

1. 

   George.be
   17th June 2022, 23:45

   This is a rule they can scrap, IMHO: the cost cap already limits the quantity of hardware used by a team. Further more, the team already paid for the extra hardware by getting a DNF. That’s a big difference to what Mercedes did last year: introducing extra hardware to gain performance not available to their client teams.
   1. 

      SteveR
      17th June 2022, 23:53

      If I recall correctly, PU’s are exempt from the cost cap.
   2. 

      Esploratore (@esploratore1)
      18th June 2022, 0:03

      The reasoning is sound, however races often get more interesting when you have a fast car in the back, many people are against reverse grid races, but they’re good for the show, think about russia 2021, some rain in the end helped but it was already a great race.
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         Dex
         18th June 2022, 0:18

         I don’t watch this as a show, but as a sport (not that I want it to be dull, just not directed). Rules are the way they are, it’s the same for everybody, but they do make this much more of a constructors than drivers championship (since the driver gets penalized, not the team). I’d rather they pay a fine for this than lose 10 grid spots… If it’s large enough, it’ll be a fine deterrent, especially with the cap.
   3. 

      petebaldwin (@)
      18th June 2022, 2:39

      Does a new engine cost the same for a manufacturer as it does for a customer? If not then that’ll be why they have to keep the limits in place.
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         BasCB (@bascb)
         18th June 2022, 14:55

         As SteveR mentions above, the engine costs aren’t currently part of the cost cap, although they had already been fixed at a maximum of 15 million a year previously
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   Red Pill (@redpill)
   18th June 2022, 7:15

   @George.be
   @petebaldwin

   Also too, it’s looking like some of the smaller teams are struggling to even hit the new budget cap which prevents them from spending spree’s on new toys compared to the big boys, so there’s that and like what Pete mentioned; it surely costs much less for the manufacturer than the customer’s cost for new PU bits with creative accounting and material assignment.
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   Iosif (@afonic)
   18th June 2022, 11:25

   I think it’s a bit unfair that when an engine fails you lose all points in that race and then face a race ban. FIA could easily check if an engine really failed beyond repair during a race and allow a penalty free replacement.
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      Iosif (@afonic)
      18th June 2022, 11:25

      *a race penalty.
4. 

   G
   18th June 2022, 12:22

   It’s a real shame Ferrari are having these issues with their engines. We have two cars and driver’s pretty evenly matched yet the championship is looking like it will be ruined with unreliability and grid penalties.
   I’m sure Max knows how Charles is feeling as he nearly lost out on the title last year with the lion’s share of DNF’s. I think the rules for this do need looked at as it inflicts too much pain to have a DNF and a ban. Obviously they should have something in place to protect against what Merc were doing last year with engines to gain an advantage but if they genuinely fail I think the penalties are too harsh.
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      G
      18th June 2022, 12:23

      * ban/grid penalty
5. 

   Todfod (@todfod)
   18th June 2022, 14:05

   Say what you want about Arrivebene… he was a far better operator than Binotto.
   1. 

      MichaelN
      18th June 2022, 14:10

      That seems to be a pretty fair assessment, but it shouldn’t mean that Ferrari or its fans ignore the (many) shortcomings of the team under Arrivebene either.

      Ferrari in those years had a lot of issues, from repeated horrible strategies that led Vettel to second-guess everything his engineer said, a big issue matching factory data to real data leading to months of wasted upgrades especially throughout 2018, an inability to bring both drivers up to speed leading to Räikkönen taking just one meager win throughout all his many years in his second period at Ferrari, and then there’s the pretty long list of completely pointless intra-team battles that led to numerous first lap bumps between the two Ferrari cars as well as an odd refusal on Räikkönen’s part to play the team game (in Germany and Italy 2018 in particular).

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