In the round-up: Sergio Perez says rivals accusing Max Verstappen of winning the world championship due to Red Bull’s budget cap breach are “bad losers”.
In brief
Other teams ‘bad losers’ over cost cap breach
Verstappen claimed his second consecutive drivers championship victory earlier this year. But subsequently Red Bull was found to have exceeded last year’s $145 million budget cap by $2.1m. The team was fined $7 million and had its aerodynamic development allocation cut.However Perez insists Verstappen does not owe his success to Red Bull overspending. Speaking before yesterday’s Brazilian Grand Prix, Perez told The Telegraph that Red Bull “didn’t get any performance benefit” and “Max didn’t win the championship last year” due to the team overspending. “So for other teams to take advantage of that, and try to make Red Bull look bad, it’s really unfair. And it shows they can be bad losers.”
Alpine “feeling more secure” – Ocon
Alpine will go into the final race of 2022 “feeling a bit more secure” in their fight with McLaren for fourth place in the championship after the points haul they took in Brazil, says Esteban Ocon.
“It’s a great day for the team, 14 points. The three-stop strategy was the one to take today obviously, as Fernando benefited, but on the two-stop we did everything we could and overall to get 14 points it’s huge over McLaren and we can be very happy.”
Norris expected few points before retirement
Despite running as high as third early in the Brazilian Grand Prix, Lando Norris believes he was on course for a low-order points finish at best before retiring with a technical problem.
“We were just very slow, simple as that,” he said. “I doubt we would have finished in the points in the end of the race. Maybe we would have finished 10th, possibly. But we obviously didn’t even end the race so it was a bit of a shame.”
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'Normally, you’re able to unlap yourself under the Safety Car, but today I was told to stay in my position, so we ended the day a whole lap behind the pack, with no opportunity to make my way forward.'
A frustrating race in Sao Paulo (Williams)
'At the restart, Alex suffered with a loss of power, which took us a couple of laps to recover and he was unable to make any further progress. Nicholas ran a short stint on the Hard compound, but this was a poor tyre today and, coupled with a slow pit-stop, dropped him off the back of the pack.'
Mick Schumacher: 'Sometimes it’s your year and sometimes it’s not and I guess this year hasn’t been mine.'
Valtteri Bottas: 'I did enjoy myself today, I was in some good fights and the car’s pace was strong. I also want to give big thanks to Zhou for being a true team player today'
Argentine throngs go wild for Juncos, IndyCar series laps (IndyCar)
'We predicted 3,000 to 5,000 people, but what showed up was more than 15,000 people. It was unbelievable; it was huge. I’m very, very happy.'
Tsolov ends Spanish F4 season with triple win (Formula Scout)
'The race came to an early end when Stromsted and Kucharczyk came together while battling with Ho for fifth place. The trio had gone side-by-side, with Ho on the outside and Stomsted in the middle. Kucharczyk made contact with the rear of Stromsted’s car, sending Stromsted into a roll. He landed upside down in the gravel but was confirmed to be physically okay.'
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This traffic chaos at some #f1 venues this year is just unacceptable. One hour for the last 300m in Interlagos to actually get into the circuit shows the absolute lack of organizational finesse or even will.
— Vladimir Rys (@vladimirrys) November 13, 2022
|@alfaromeoorlen have been fined €1,000 for having a team member "unreasonably close to the path of the approaching Haas car which was starting its pit stop" during the #BrazilianGP #F1 pic.twitter.com/g8Zl4RYi0Z
— RaceFans (@racefansdotnet) November 13, 2022
Yall need to calm down. Max was wrong for doing that, no doubt. But maybe he had a reason. He is a really tough driver but mostly fair. There must be something we don’t know. (Btw that 5s penalty was not fair, Hamilton was at fault too).
— William Alatalo (@AlataloWilliam) November 13, 2022
Many congratulations to George Russell @GeorgeRussell63 for his first F1 Sprint and FI Grand Prix win. First of many more to come for this super talented youngster who debuted with Force India F1. Am so proud of this superstar.
— Vijay Mallya (@TheVijayMallya) November 13, 2022
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Comment of the day
LB hails Formula 1’s newest grand prix winner:
Congratulations to George! Hopefully the first of many, he’s been brilliant this year! Great to see Mercedes come good at the end, hoping next season we may be on for a good year.
I do hate how much the grid has separated out this year though, only Lando Norris has got a podium this year outside the top three teams, that’s really not good enough.
LB (@burden93)
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday to Sridhar!
Biker56 (@biker56)
14th November 2022, 1:53
Funny. Carefully quoting from the article:
And I wonder how he feels after that race? MV is a “Bad winner”
BasCB (@bascb)
14th November 2022, 14:40
Ha, he’d probably say it was due to his helps as his teammate @biker56!
Jim from US (@jimfromus)
14th November 2022, 1:55
Red Bull overspent the budget cap and didn’t gain any advantage? Apparently, Red Bull just spent more money to buy the exact same stuff as other teams. Who does that? Keep selling but we’re not buying.
Jim from US (@jimfromus)
14th November 2022, 2:06
Of course, that means that if they spent the same as other teams, they would have been at a disadvantage.
Mathematically:
Red Bull: (Budget + Extra) = Other Teams: (Budget)
So for the system to be fair next year:
Red Bull: (New Budget) = Other Teams: (New Budget – Red Bulls overspend)
Red Bull stays within the cap but is still equal to other teams as the other teams must spend less.
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
14th November 2022, 23:37
That’s true, however the overspending is so minor that it’s not gonna make any difference if the title isn’t close, such as happened in 2022.
EriT (@erit)
16th November 2022, 9:03
Well if you had followed the discussion, you would have known that RB spend just as much money as other teams. Only differences is that they did not let their people eat outside the Circuit (which does not fall under BC) and were wrong with how to set the Tax return. Also the payment of people on sick leave or even already on “garden Leave” were added. Other teams were more clever and better in their bookings and were to place them. So yes official they were overspending, but not if you compare it to other teams. Next year they will also put the cost different and problem solved.
Kerry Maxwell (@kerrymaxwell)
17th November 2022, 15:21
@erit I hear the Brooklyn Bridge is up for sale, you seem like a good prospective buyer. Just take everything the seller says at face value and you should make out fine.
Michael (@freelittlebirds)
14th November 2022, 2:58
This has gotten completely absurd. Not only has Red Bull gotten away with overspending, now we’re all accused of being bad sports and they are taking down names starting with Ted Kravitz.
This is what happens when you allow a team to break the rules. They feel invincible and will break all the rules now. Why? Cause what can you do to them? Beg for another 7 million? They may boycott the FIA next time.
Bradders (@bradders)
14th November 2022, 13:36
Nothing but the usual toxicity from them.
Sensord4notbeingafanboi (@peartree)
14th November 2022, 14:48
@freelittlebirds Ted Kravitz shouldn’t be on tv anyway.
SteveP
14th November 2022, 20:19
I’ve seen bits of that stuff on the net.
Ted is perfect car-crash TV:
You know what he’s going to do next, you know it will make you cringe in expectation and wince on the delivery, but you just can’t help taking a peek.
The Edge (@the-edge)
15th November 2022, 16:30
Actually @peartree I’d say Ted is the ONLY sky presenter that SHOULD be on TV
the rest are just boring AF
Sensord4notbeingafanboi (@peartree)
16th November 2022, 13:53
@the-edge there is a word to describe people like Ted but I can’t use it.
There is a reason Ted never got out of the box. If only Ted cared to be as brazen about the teams or drivers he cares about.
EriT (@erit)
16th November 2022, 9:07
Good idea, let’s boycot FIA and take the 2 teams out of the competition. Then we can all watch Lewis get his 8/9/10 title without competition from other teams. Fer will never get to such a level that they can really compete with Merc, and other teams are there just to eat the scraps.
Macademianut (@macademianut)
14th November 2022, 3:56
That’s right. People complaining that Max won due to budget cap are sore losers. But people complaining that he won two championships due to one’s help is a what??
Lambert
14th November 2022, 4:44
That’s only part of the reason, Checo.
The full reason is 3 part:
1- Lenient stewarding towards Max all season
2- Red Bull overspending on the cost cap
3- Michael Masi changing the rules to gift Max an unearned, undeserved win and championship.
So shush, wingman.
Red Andy (@red-andy)
14th November 2022, 6:18
You’re just proving Checo’s point. Log off.
Bradders (@bradders)
14th November 2022, 13:37
He’s entitled to his opinion, one which many happen to agree with.
Be polite.
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
14th November 2022, 23:38
Undeserved win ok, undeserved championship no way (2021).
M
15th November 2022, 6:22
No championship without that win.
Or, penalise all of his earlier indiscretions and have no ‘decider’.
neiana
15th November 2022, 8:06
Penalize Hamilton for all his indiscretions as well, and we’re probably back even, again.
Phil Norman (@phil-f1-21)
14th November 2022, 7:52
Am I going mad or has there been no ‘Rate the Race’ post for the main Brazilian GP? I cannot see one?
Biker56 (@biker56)
14th November 2022, 9:58
That’s not an either-or question.
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
14th November 2022, 23:39
Indeed, came unusually late.
Steven Williamson (@scubaboy)
14th November 2022, 9:56
In “Grand Prix”, Jean Pierre said “There is no terrible way to win, there is only winning.”
Sounds like Checo agrees – the World Championships were ‘theirs’, doesn’t matter how they were won.
Jere (@jerejj)
14th November 2022, 11:21
Finally, some light on the mysterious AR pit stop investigation.
I couldn’t agree more with William Alatalo on both points.
COTD is right. The grid has separated, but I also hope for a tighter battle at the front next season.
N
14th November 2022, 23:37
“‘Bad losers’ accuse Verstappen of winning 2021 title due to cost cap breach – Perez”
Correction, he won the 2022 title with the help of the cost cap breach.
He won the 2021 title because of breaches of the regulations by race control in the final round.
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
14th November 2022, 23:40
I suppose hamilton cutting the track 29 times the first race was just fine.
The Edge (@the-edge)
15th November 2022, 16:32
Well clearly yes, otherwise he would have been penalised
EriT (@erit)
16th November 2022, 9:09
as we all know for Sir Lewis the rules are different as for the other 19 drivers.
hyoko
16th November 2022, 19:20
What, the HIA’s pet a meaningful penalty? You haven’t watched F1 for the last 16 years
Picasso 1.9D FTW (@picasso-19d-ftw)
15th November 2022, 0:09
It’s the bad winners that get up my nose the most.
Mayrton
15th November 2022, 7:25
Yawn
The Edge (@the-edge)
15th November 2022, 16:28
Funny that… because I thought the sign of a bad looser was to deliberately crash your car