2023 Belgian Grand Prix sprint race result

25 comments on “2023 Belgian Grand Prix sprint race result”

1. 

   Jere (@jerejj)
   29th July 2023, 17:24

   Max, as expected, retook the lead easily on the Kemmel straight as if he’d activated DRS, although the 5-second penalty for Lewis was BS.
   I don’t know how the stewards can realistically view such a racing incident as his fault.
   Nevertheless, Checo must’ve sustained some damage alongside losing grip, considering how easily he started losing positions shortly after.
   1. 

      Ben
      29th July 2023, 17:29

      I’m guessing the damage caused the penalty. Probably followed by plenty of moaning from RedBull.

      If I’m honest it wasn’t a penalty at all. Hamilton was along side and the place was done. Good drivers know when the move is done and back out of it. Sadly Perez isn’t a good driver.
   2. 

      Mayrton
      29th July 2023, 17:32

      Lewis’ signature move on a RedBull had eventually to be called out some day.
      1. 

         elchinero (@elchinero)
         29th July 2023, 17:36

         True, that.
      2. 

         MadMax (@madmax)
         29th July 2023, 17:39

         Cause Checho drove into him? Maybe it would help if RBR drivers just dont drive into cars alongside of them.
         1. 

            Mayrton
            29th July 2023, 18:11

            Classic understeer into a RB. It was not severe this time I agree. And in a sprint to be penalized is hardly harmful so all is well. Think it was more of a message given the repetitiveness.
         2. 

            Xavi
            30th July 2023, 0:28

            What sprint race did you see? When did Checo drive into Lewis? you can like / dislike any driver you want, but don’t tell lies, Checo did not drive into Hamilton, your hatred agenda is ridiculous. Even UK broadcasters admitted it was Lewis fault.
            Harsh Penalty and racing incident, that would be a realistic POV, but oh no, let’s put it on the driver not named Lewis Hamilton.
      3. 

         melanos
         29th July 2023, 20:25

         Yes, if there’s anything that Sir is really good at, it is spearing the other guy’s car, ruining the other car’s race while avoiding self-damage, and make it look like a race incident.
         Anyway George has proved a good pupil, has done same to Checo several times.
   3. 

      Alex (@)
      29th July 2023, 17:34

      Watching the onboards, each driver sticks to their racing line, and – despite plenty of room – they just come together.

      They’re almost alongside at the apex, but Hamilton is at his slowest while Perez has already started accelerating. Perez pulls half a car ahead; each driver sticks to their own racing line; the lines intersect; they hit.

      I assume Hamilton thought at the apex “I’ll be in front soon: if I drift wide, Perez has to move out of my way”. While the stewards thought, at the point he moved into Perez he was half a car behind.

      So I understand the decision. I do think it was a soft one, though.
      1. 

         Mayrton
         29th July 2023, 18:13

         Without Lewis’ understeer the lines would not have intersected though.
         1. 

            Alex (@)
            29th July 2023, 18:23

            I agree with you now I’ve seen the slow-mos on the live feed. On first viewing I thought Hamilton had steered left towards Perez on the (incorrect) assumptions they would be level and Perez would retreat. Now I realise Hamilton was fighting understeer and jerked his steering wheel left more or less automatically.
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   Alex (@)
   29th July 2023, 17:24

   Good work by Gasly to keep the others behind and secure 3rd. Not easy in those conditions with everyone pushing. Hopefully we can see him near the front more in the future
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   Alberto
   29th July 2023, 17:29

   Only wheel to wheel racing on track during wet got looked by stewards and ends up in a penalty
   1. 

      Jere (@jerejj)
      29th July 2023, 17:32

      Ikr, a BS call by the stewards.
      1. 

         Ben
         29th July 2023, 17:40

         Haha the FIA don’t want racing! That’s far too dangerous! They want a precession and it has to be dry!
         1. 

            Mayrton
            29th July 2023, 18:16

            It was quite a shocking performance by race control again. If they keep this up we’ll end up with indoor racing only in a few years time. I have no idea what we’ve been watching. Starting the sprint behind the Safety car was a new low.
            1. 

               Jockey Ewing
               29th July 2023, 21:50

               Hm, recently this this indoor idea came to my mind as well :)

               Others: Let’s have car specs for rain, somehow disabling/reducing the diffuser performance, to reduce the spray, and fitting some much bigger, but quite simple wings to make up for that.

               If the tyre blankets are considered as wasting resources in this niche sport, meanwhile there is so much more money is being spent on various things, then what about the wet tyres, which are delivered to every races, and then I guess they are being scrapped as all of he other unused tyres. Meanwhile we have barely seen the blue full wet tyres in action in the recent quite many years.
            2. 

               Jockey Ewing
               29th July 2023, 22:04

               Others have mentioned special engine modes for rain. I am not sure, maybe they already have such modes. At least in case of LMP3 I have seen some driver saying that they have such.

               Yes, it was so amazing to see those rainy races in the 1990s and 2000s. I would like to see some similar ones, although the water spray is worse by now I guess. I think the main problem is the spray. I would like to see an automated warning system, like an automated spotter to help in blind corners. Practically it would be a sound warning, providing information about the distance of a crashed, stopped or slow car, of yellow flags for eg. It could be created as a collective effort, maybe using speech synthesis, based on GPS data for example. In my fantasy practically it would operate as if the warning would come in the team radio channel. If it would have the same voice for all of the teams (or at least distinguishable), it would be obvious to the drivers that this voice used to report these kind of problems. Obviously not even this would be enough at fog-like spray, but it could make it a bit safer at tracks with many blind sections.
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               Jockey Ewing
               29th July 2023, 22:24

               If someone does simracing, or is curious, there is an app called Crew Chief (https://thecrewchief.org/). It works in many sims. Practically it is providing an experience of having a spotter, or race engineer-like assistance in the radio based on data fetched from the various games supported. It warns you about flags, it informs you about temperatures, lockups, laptimes, gaps and many other things. It is very deeply configurable, and adds to the atmosphere of simracing.

               I have shown this, because I wanted to show how good an automated spotter could be. For me it is often strange that F1 or the teams do not have a bit better quality of spotter/warning system than what they actually have.

               Nowadays I have not used it, because now I play on poor hardware, so I try to have a bit more fps instead. Otherwise as a not so advanced player, by using it for a while, I have become much more aware and safe. It heleped me to build routines, to free up a bit of mental capacity, and to use that to improve my racing. And the nice thing is, even if I do not use it for now, the improvement and the nicer approach of having more awareness stayed with me.
4. 

   elchinero (@elchinero)
   29th July 2023, 17:37

   ABL
5. 

   Ben
   29th July 2023, 17:37

   So a tiny contact is 5 seconds but Max can drive a car literally 30 meters off track and get nothing. The FIA aren’t even trying to hide it any more.

   They’ve officially lost the plot. Let’s run around for 5 laps on wet tyres for “safety” then create an extremely dangerous situation because it’s actually safe enough for inters. Absolutely stupid race control this week.
   1. 

      MadMax (@madmax)
      29th July 2023, 17:41

      at least better than 2021, when just gifting points for no race.
   2. 

      Baleux (@baleux)
      30th July 2023, 3:51

      I can’t recall Max being off track at any point during the Sprint, could you elaborate?
6. 

   f12007v (@f1fan-2000)
   29th July 2023, 17:40

   Instead of watching who will win, it is more interesting to see how well the 2nd redbull struggles to slower cars every single race.
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   FanAmp (@)
   30th July 2023, 11:34

   That was the sprintiest Sprint Race ever, with the delay and safety car, just 11 laps.

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