Kevin Magnussen, Haas, Jeddah Corniche Circuit, 2024

“You need to go more slowly”: The radio calls behind Haas’s controversial point

Formula 1

Posted on

| Written by

When the top five teams in the 2023 constructors championship – Red Bull, Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren and Aston Martin – filled the 10 points-paying positions in the opening round of the 2024 season, the remaining five teams were faced a difficult reality.

Clearly, as long as there were no mishaps or mechanical problems for the top teams over a grand prix, the chances of the rest of the field scoring points was almost nil.

But when Lance Stroll crashed his Aston Martin on lap six of the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, an opportunity opened up for Alpine, Williams, RB, Sauber or Haas to pick up the pieces and take their first point of the season.

In the end, Haas managed to do just that. They achieved it through and excellent example of team work between the strategists on the pit wall and drivers Nico Hulkenberg and Kevin Magnussen. Here’s how they did it.

Magnussen and Hulkenberg’s radio messages

Kevin Magnussen, Haas, Jeddah Corniche Circuit, 2024, start
Magnussen was the leading Haas driver at the start

After both reached Q2 in Friday’s qualifying session, Magnussen secured 13th place on the grid while a fuel system failure forced Hulkenberg to stop on the track, leaving him in 15th. At the start, Haas followed the vast majority of the field by fitting medium tyres on both cars to prepare to run a typical one-stop strategy around the low degradation Jeddah circuit.

The pair each gained a place on the opening lap: Magnussen passed Alexander Albon and Hulkenberg got ahead of Daniel Ricciardo. Then on lap six, the Haas drivers rounded turn 22 to see the Aston Martin in the barriers.

Lap: 6/50 MAG: 1’36.027, HUL: 1’36.398
HulkenbergThere was a crash. Turn 22.
GannonYeah, copy that. Don’t know why there’s no flag.
Lap: 7/50 MAG: 2’11.564, HUL: 2’09.724
SladeNo sign of Safety Car at the moment. We’ve got a yellow flag from turn 20.GannonSafety Car. Safety Car. Get positive on the delta time and, for now, stay out. Positive on Delta time.
SladeSafety Car. Safety Car. Stay positive on your delta. Mode ‘slow’, please. Mode ‘slow’. How is the balance, Kev?GannonNico, I need multi-function B9 to position seven, multi-function B9 to position seven and we are staying out. It’s double yellow, turns 20, through 23.
MagnussenIt’s pretty good. Little bit of understeer, but. I think we could go up by two or something, just a little bit.HulkenbergCheck if that should be good now.
SladeCopy. Just keep as close as you can to zero on your delta.GannonThat’s correct. All good. Okay, Nico. So we’re staying out. Certainly others will be boxing, so just make sure you’re close to zero, but positive at the SC one and two [line].
SladeMulti-B9, position seven, please Kev. Multi-B9, position seven.HulkenbergWhat about Kevin?
MagnussenCopy.GannonHe’s coming in.
SladeBox, Kev, box. Please confirm.
MagnussenBox, box.

Advert | Become a RaceFans supporter and go ad-free

Haas decided to split strategies. They summoned Magnussen in for hard tyres but left Hulkenberg out on his mediums. Hulkenberg took the restart from eighth place, while Magnussen was five places further back in 13th.

Alexander Albon, Kevin Magnussen, Jeddah Corniche Circuit, 2024
One of Magnussen’s penalties arose from this collision with Albon

Almost immediately, Magnussen caught trouble. He squeezed Albon against the wall as the Williams attempted to pass him around the outside into turn four, earning a ten second time penalty from the stewards.

Lap: 8/50 MAG: 3’00.027, HUL: 2’50.478
SladeMode ‘RS’ for the start for the box, please.HulkenbergSo you’re currently P8. Leader Norris didn’t pit. Verstappen’s on a hard, Hamilton didn’t pit yet. Then Perez, Leclerc, Piastri, Alonso ahead are all on new hards. Russell behind, new hard, then Zhou still on his medium and Tsunoda new hard. Bearman’s still on his soft and then Kevin’s in P13 on the hard.
SladeCar behind is Albon. Car behind is Albon. Mode ‘slow’ please, Kev. Mode ‘slow’. So Nico did not box. Nico did not box. Tsunoda did box. Reset balance adjuster. So Zhou did not stop – he’s in P10. Nico’s P8, I believe. Hamilton didn’t stop – he’s P3 – and Norris is leading, he didn’t stop. So those guys are on seven lap mediums upset, Bearman still on seven lap softs. Everyone else is on new hards.
MagnussenWas the Sauber ahead of us already, or he has to stop, or…?
SladeNo, he didn’t stop. He didn’t stop. That’s Zhou. Bottas did stop, he’s on new hards behind you now? So you’re P13 at the moment, obviously because Nico jumped you… Ah, he must’ve been ahead of us already.
SladeNo, not sure what’s going on there… Anyway. You are currently P13.
SladeSo a maximum of ten car lengths, just a reminder. No problems so far.
SladeKev, can you put the adjuster forwards to help warm the fronts, please? We’ve got a ‘track is clear’ sign, so restart may not be very long.
Lap: 9/50 MAG: 2’25.832, HUL: 2’33.089
SladeSafety Car is in this lap. Safety Car is in this lap.
MagnussenCopy. Safety Car in.
Lap: 12/50 MAG: 1’35.229, HUL: 1’34.605
MagnussenI think I might have some floor damage.
SladeCopy that. Just concentrate on where you are now. Use your tools to help the balance. You’re in good shape. Ocon .6 behind, you’re .7 behind Tsunoda.
Lap: 13/50 MAG: 1’35.062, HUL: 1’35.367
We see nothing in data, Kev. That doesn’t mean you don’t have some sort of problem.
Lap: 16/50 MAG: 1’36.100, HUL: 1’35.153
SladeOkay Kev, we’ve been given a ten second penalty for causing a collision with Albon.GannonOkay, so Bearman’s one behind, but you’re still opening the gap to Zhou. It’s like four behind now. So as long as we’re opening that gap, we’re good.

Advert | Become a RaceFans supporter and go ad-free

With Hulkenberg ahead and Magnussen almost certainly out of contention for points, Haas decided that the best opportunity available to them was to sacrifice Magnussen’s race to try and benefit his team mate’s.

Kevin Magnussen, Haas, Jeddah Corniche Circuit, 2024
Magnussen kept his pursuers bottled up

Hulkenberg would have to pit to change tyres eventually, so they told Magnussen to pace himself to try and hold up the pack of cars behind him to get Hulkenberg as far ahead as he could. Their decision was only further validated when Magnussen was hit with another ten second penalty for leaving the track and gaining a lasting advantage while battling Yuki Tsunoda.

Lap: 19/50 MAG: 1’35.220, HUL: 1’35.174
GannonIt’s all good behind, Nico. We see the balance is a little on the understeer side, but it’s okay. The tyres is looking good. We’ll be able to take it long and that’s what we need to do.
Lap: 20/50 MAG: 1’35.012, HUL: 1’35.067
SladeOkay Kev, I’ve been told that you need to maintain a pace of a 35.5. Do not attempt to catch Zhou. You need to do a 35.5.
Lap: 21/50 MAG: 1’34.923, HUL: 1’36.369
MagnussenOkay.GannonEveryone is bunched up behind Zhou, so hopefully that will open up the gap a little bit.
SladeA ten second penalty means we’re currently P18. You keep the cars behind you.
SladeKev, to repeat, you need to go more slowly, keeping the cars behind you, behind.
Lap: 22/50 MAG: 1’35.804, HUL: 1’35.358
SladeOkay Kev, we’ve been given another ten second penalty for leaving the track and gaining an advantage. So the only way for the team to get something out of this is for you to do as we’ve asked.GannonZhou’s picked up his pace a bit. The gap is 3.5. Your SOC [state of charge] is coming back to normal, so that will come back to you.
MagnussenYeah, copy that. Understood.
SladeNico is currently five seconds ahead of us. He needs 20 seconds.

Advert | Become a RaceFans supporter and go ad-free

Despite lap after lap of having rivals within DRS range of him, Magnussen was managing to repel all challenges and keep to his target pace. Meanwhile, Hulkenberg was striking the best balance he could between pushing for lap time and keeping his tyres alive. It was beginning to look good.

Lap: 24/50 MAG: 1’36.072, HUL: 1’34.843
SladeNico is 7.5 seconds ahead. Tsunoda .3 behind – you’re doing a fantastic job there, Kev. Keep it up.GannonThis pace is very good. You’re opening to Zhou and then a bigger gap to a big group behind. So the situation is getting better and better – we may have a chance here.
GannonVery good laps, Nico.
Lap: 26/50 MAG: 1’36.260, HUL: 1’34.694
SladeGap to Nico, 10.9. You’re doing an excellent job there, Kev. Keep it up.GannonExcellent laps. Gap to Zhou is five and then the gap to the next big pack is 11 seconds.
Lap: 29/50 MAG: 1’35.797, HUL: 1’34.235
SladeMagnussen defends from Tsunoda at turn one
Absolutely brilliant, Kev. Keep at it. Ocon is the car behind now.
GannonGap to Zhou 6.3 and the other cars are 15 behind. It’s all going well.
MagnussenDo they have better straight line speed?
MagnussenNegative, Kev. Negative. Ocon is the slowest, of the cars behind in a straight line.
Lap: 30/50 MAG: 1’35.843, HUL: 1’34.307
GannonGap to Zhou, seven. Gap to the big pack is 17.
Nico Hulkenberg, Haas, Jeddah Corniche Circuit, 2024

Eventually, by lap 33, Hulkenberg had achieved the margin he needed to pit and resume ahead of his team mate. All that Haas needed was to execute a good pit stop and they would successfully accomplish their mission.

Advert | Become a RaceFans supporter and go ad-free

Lap: 32/50 MAG: 1’35.783, HUL: 1’33.999
SladeOcon .4. Gap to Nico 19 seconds. Superb job, Kev. Keep going, keep going. Gap to Nico 19.5.
Lap: 33/50 MAG: 1’35.700, HUL: 1’36.601
MagnussenWhat do we need?GannonBox now, Nico. Box now.
SladeWe need 22 seconds to be safe, Kev. We need 22 seconds to be safe.HulkenbergCopy.

When Zhou Guanyu pitted from tenth with nine laps remaining, Hulkenberg moved up into that critical final points paying position. He duly ticked off the remaining laps to secure Haas their first point of the season, becoming the only one of the bottom five teams to get on the board in the early phase of the 2024 championship.

Lap: 34/50 MAG: 1’34.174, HUL: 1’51.863
SladeNico will come out in front of you. Nico will come out in front of you. Nico two seconds ahead [cheering in background]. Just go for it, Kev. Go for it.GannonRemember, Mode ‘RS’. Hold brake pressure. Think about EB.
SladeThat was fantastic, well done. Excellent teamwork, Kev. Now just go for it as best you can.GannonApplause in background
Okay, we went +1%. Kevin is two behind, holding up the pack. Reset FUNC. Reset FUNC. Tyres are all good, okay to push to the end.

But even when the race was over, Magnussen was still thinking about the team. After taking the chequered flag, he passed Hulkenberg taking the run-off at turn eight.

He suddenly remembered the maximum lap time rule which applies to in laps at the end of qualifying session and, for a worrying moment, feared that Hulkenberg might be at risk of driving too slowly on his way back to the pits. However, he need not have worried as no such rule applies at the end of races and Hulkenberg’s point was not in danger.

Haas’ point was a coup for the team, and not the first time a team has used one car to delay its rivals to benefit the other. However some of their rivals took exception to their tactics, particularly RB, who were suspicious about Magnussen’s off-track pass on Tsunoda.

“Magnussen drove off the track to deliberately put himself in front of Yuki and then slowed him down by up to two seconds a lap,” said RB’s racing director Alan Permane. “That, to me, doesn’t seem correct and is the very definition of unsportsmanlike behaviour. I’m sure we and other teams will talk to the FIA about it for future races.”

Advert | Become a RaceFans supporter and go ad-free

Chequered flag
SladeAnd that’s the chequered flag, Kev. Chequered flag. Can we have Mode ‘in’, please Kev. Mode ‘in’.GannonChequered flag, Nico. Chequered flag. That’s P10! Brilliant drive, Nico. Press ‘in’ button. Kevin had some penalties, so he was able to help us out with that gap behind. It’s a really good team result. P10. Great job.
SladeI know it’s not what you wanted, Kev, but that was absolutely mega and the team got a point out of that and that is like gold dust, as we’ve said before. So I’m really sorry that it ended up the way it did, but I can’t thank you enough for your efforts. It really means so much to the team. Thank you very much.HulkenbergYeah, thanks, guys. Points on the board. It’s always nice, in the second race. Pace was not too bad. Obviously some things to work on, but I think not bad for here. Good job everyone. Thank you.
MagnussenYep. Sorry man. I’m happy I could make it up for screwing us over. I keep it clean next time. Congrats on the point. Well deserved, everyone. Let’s go for more from here.GannonYeah, good job. Thanks a lot, Nico. Really good pace.
KomatsuKev, thank you so much. You’ve done an amazing job, there. This one point is a great team effort. Thank you. Great stuff.KomatsuGreat job Nico. Really happy to get first points of the season. Nice work.
MagnussenI think Nico needs to pick up the pace now, on the in-lap. Or not?HulkenbergYep. Thanks Ayao.
SladeNo, it’s all good. There’s no limit on the in-lap, Kev.
Nico Hulkenberg, Haas, Jeddah Corniche Circuit, 2024
Haas finished last season at the bottom of the standings but Hulkenberg’s point means they are now sixth

Author information

Will Wood
Will has been a RaceFans contributor since 2012 during which time he has covered F1 test sessions, launch events and interviewed drivers. He mainly...

Got a potential story, tip or enquiry? Find out more about RaceFans and contact us here.

36 comments on ““You need to go more slowly”: The radio calls behind Haas’s controversial point”

  1. “Go slow” is not an unfair tactic. It’s a smart tactic.

    Thinking of a very prominent example, should Hamilton be penalised for spending the whole of Abu Dhabi 2016 on a go-slow where he was trying to put Rosberg in danger of being overtaken? Of course not. That was smart driving to maximise Lewis’s chance of the title.

    1. “Go slow” is not an unfair tactic. It’s a smart tactic.

      Although it does go against the spirit of sportsmanship (which is actually addressed within the rules and the sporting code).

      should Hamilton be penalised for spending the whole of Abu Dhabi 2016 on a go-slow where he was trying to put Rosberg in danger of being overtaken? Of course not.

      An argument could certainly have been made for a penalty – with F1 being so team-oriented, Mercedes weren’t gaining or losing anything by having their two drivers behave that way, and they didn’t hamper any other competitors while they were doing it.
      In this case, it was entirely about hampering the progress of other competitors outside of Haas’ own team.

      It would be an unpopular call to penalise this behaviour – but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be justified.
      It’s another case of F1’s rules being just fine – until someone takes them to the extreme.

    2. I’m not up to speed (no pun intended) regarding the whole situation but aren’t RB complaining that Magnussen’s pass on Tsunoda and the advantage it gave him was done so by going off track? If Magnussen then held up others as a result of the off track advantage that would seem unfair.

    3. The issue here to me isn’t a sporting one at all. The question shouldn’t be penalty or not. The question should be how is it possible for a car to drive over a second a lap slower and stay in front? Atleast not without showcasing some epic defensive driving.

      F1 has utterly failed at its goal of generating more overtaking opportunities. This tactic should not exist in such an utterly boring fashion.

      1. Well, Magnussen was basically losing time from the exit of turn 2 to turn 10. There aren’t any overtaking chances there (turn 4, but only if the driver ahead makes a mistake). Magnussen was pushing hard the rest of the lap, where he could be vulnerable to an overtake (having a slow exit at turn 12 opens a chance at turn 13, and after that there’s a bunch of fast corners without any real chance of slowing down without getting passed). Also Haas seemed to have a pretty fast car on the straight, which made it harder to pass Magnussen.

        Maybe a kart could pull an overtake through the part where Magnussen was slow. I doubt any full-sized racing car would open any opportunity without a huge mistake by the driver ahead. The following drivers just weren’t fast enough at the part of the track where overtaking was possible.

        1. 8 turns of a track where it’s just acceptable that there’s no overtaking opportunities is not a good thing.

          1. That’s extremely common in all modern car racing – not just in F1.
            The understanding of tyre performance and car setup/behaviour through data collection and analysis has progressed such that it’s really not that hard to get very close to the limit and stay there at all times.

    4. Precisely. This is the most standard type of team play. Anyone remember how slow the McLaren had Norris go in Monaco a few years ago to let Sainz vault up the order? And, it’s the other teams’ fault if they cannot pass him while he’s going intentionally slow.

    5. It is an un-sportsman tactic when the driver is willing to break the rule (overtaking outside of the track) to keep ahead. Basically he had nothing to lose, thus willing to break the rules. It is basically a step behind what Renault did at Singapore. It is one thing to actually trying to hold other cars without penalty and another thing to basically become disposable.
      I’m not blaming Haas. The rules make it possible. What need to be done is actually forcing any time penalty to happen on the track and need to be served within a certain laps, like 4 or 5 laps. Yes, infringement happening at the end can still resulted in added time, but I doubt it would matter since you probably can’t make 5s gap within 5 laps unless the car actually fast enough to overtake without having to go off the track. The issue of forcing the penalty to be taken is the fact that 5s is not exactly 5s because you can only serve it during pitstop thus forcing it actually make any time punishment more severe than a drive-thru.

      1. It is no where near what Renault did in Singapore. Actually MAG could just as well have avoided both penalties, had he been a WDC or in a front running team. They do not get penalised for leaving the track in overtakes… Exicting racing at Silverstone last year. BUT, both leclerc and Perez went outside racing lines. Max overtakes but carry too much speed and go over the line in the next corner. Just like Magnussen Ferraris are allowed to overtake outside the track also.

        And there are many more similar situations. And for the first penalty, even Albon said to Sky afterwards it was a racing incident. He could have backed off. Most overtakes in F1 wil leave the guy on the outside “hanging” when they run out of track space, and they back off.

  2. Interesting to see. And yeah, Magnussen did save that one a bit by his huge effort to help Hulk get out in the points ahead of him. Although, he IS certainly correct that he should think a bit more about the larger picture and the goal of racing – to finish and take home points, podiums and wins, not to ALWAYS keep in front, whatever the cost and rack up penalties.

    BTW did the stewards give more insight into why they gave Magnussen a 10 second penalty instead of the by now “normal” 5 seconds? Is that a general thing where they feel they should look more at who they punish (yeah, KMag does have boatloads of precedent against him there) and what the results were on track (not sure the hurt to Albon’s race was huge, although arguably afther that hit he never got a chance to go forward anymore). Even more so with that second penalty? Did they explain why that would warrent a 10 second penalty? Did the stewards feel there might be something to the RB claim they were doing it on purpose to further this delay strategy??

    1. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that the stewards now treat 10 seconds as the “default” penalty both for causing a collision with another driver and for leaving the track and gaining an advantage – last year we saw some high-profile examples of drivers tactically taking 5s penalties because they would gain more by cheating than they would lose in the penalty. But obviously there is more to be done, as the very lenient 5s penalty for Perez after his dangerous pit manoeuvre shows.

    2. All penaulties which were 5 seconds are now 10 seconds for gaining a advance causing a collision from 2024 on.

    3. @bascb Sky UK said in commentary that 10 seconds was determined as the new default for gaining an advantage over the winter, because the 5-second penalty was so often overcome during races. The collision penalty has been adjustable due to circumstances for decades.

      1. Yes, that penalty has certainly been adjustable in theory. But apart from a few cases where there was a far more serious result, the stewards have rarely USED their freedom to do so.

        I thought the idea was that they would have more leeway in using either 5 or more time as a penalty based on a judgement of how severe it is. Giving 10 seconds automatically, even when even 5 in some circumstances would result in a somewhat overblown result seems backwards.

        Fact remains that while it’s nice that Sky reported this, it would be FAR more preferable if these kind of things were PUBLISHED in an easily available form, especially WITH the full reasoning of the stewards for ALL incidents.

  3. Great tactics from Haas with perfect execution, one of the highlights of an otherwise dull race. Hats off to them!
    Permane’s whinging is just sour grapes, I hope it will be brushed off by whomever he talks to.

    1. I think Permane is referring to the off track advantage that Magnussen gained. There’s nothing stopping somebody in his position from just cutting corners constantly (at least until a black and white flag is given) to retain position to help a team mate.

      Rewind back to Abu Dhabi 2021. Perez performed heroics to hold Hamilton up. That was superb driving from Perez. Now if he’d cut corners to stay in front, that would’ve been wrong. That’s the issue here.

      My view is that gaining an advantage off track should be a 10 second penalty and black and white flag for driving standards, then a black flag for a repeat.

      1. Yeah, just like Perez didn’t in fact have any real penalty from his 5s, the time penalties rarely do work effectively to stop people making infractions, which does need looking at, but in this case, as the rules currently are, Magnussen just did a solid job with what he had to help his team get a point.

        1. The biggest difference is that with Perez, it was probably an honest mistake as in they didn’t gain anything by having that 5s penalty. With Magnussen, it was deliberate with the pass on Tsunoda. I’m not blaming Haas for doing it, but I wouldn’t call what Magnussen did as something great which a lot of people think Mag did a great job. When you’re doing your job and you ended up needing to achieve it by breaking the rule, I don’t qualify that as great. Yes, Magnussen only did it once, but it does send a message that he would do anything to keep ahead.
          If I make the rule, if the cars are close, they should force them to switch place or it would be disqualified. Only apply the time penalty if it is impossible to switch (other car in between) or the other car is actually driving away fast (which would imply that the car probably can overtake at will). Give it like between 3 to 5 laps to comply.

          1. It wasn’t deliberate from Magnussen. He commented afterwards, that it all happens in a flash when racing at those speeds. He didn’t knew if he was out of racing line, but expected he was told, if so. He was not told.

            The very best handling of this had been if the stewards had told Haas to tell MAG to give back the place within one lap. Then Tsunoda had not been held off for a long time. The running would not had been a slow train but actual racing.

            And F1 could do with consistency. Drivers in front of the field does not get penalised for leaving the track.

   Exicting racing at Silverstone last year. BUT, both leclerc and Perez went outside racing lines.

   Max overtakes but carry too much speed and go over the line in the next corner. Just like Magnussen

   Ferraris are allowed to overtake outside the track also

      2. Bugger these 5 or 10 sec penalties, the position should be returned, like Piastri did twice with Hamilton.

        In the past this is what was required, or they got a drive through penalty.

        I can remember a GP (but can’t remember the drivers) but for arguments sake lets assume it was Magnussen, who overtook Grosjean off track, in that process Grosjean was also overtaken by Hulkenberg legally and Magnussen had to let Hulk and Grosjean back past to redress the position.

        I think this is the correct outcome

  4. Haas simply responded to the rules re penalties ruining kMags potential for a good finishing position. Smart team management.

    Perhaps F1 needs to revise the points allocation to create differentiation for the lower order teams, like a lot of other race series. Improved reliability has also played a part in creating this undesirable situation.

  5. Things that wouldn’t have happened with a Stop&Go or a DriveThru, chapter nº12371230

    1. Incorrect.
      A stop& go or drivethru would convert a 10 second penalty to a 30 second penalty, and that is not the penalty.

  6. Suffering Williams Fan
    11th March 2024, 17:10

    I’m basically ok with teams using tactics within their own setup to try to help one driver relative to another in beating other teams. It’s not pretty, but I think it’s a legitimate tactic. What I don’t like here is that in setting up the scenario to enable this to happen, Magnussen pushed Albon into the wall and also illegally overtook Tsunoda. That should not be ok, and it’s probably worth reviewing the rules to allow the stewards to *order* a driver to give back a position.

    1. Magnussen didn´t get told to give back the position and he didn´t do it by himself because he was not sure he actually was crossing the track limits with all 4 wheels. He was on the curb and was busy balancing the car

  7. Nobody cared when Alonso did it in Monaco, or his own advantage.

    Nobody cared when Bottas would do it to Vettel for Hamilton’s advantage.

    Nobody cared when Barrichello did it in aid for Schumacher’s advantage.

    Nobody cared when Joe Tanto did it to Beau Brandenburg for Jimmy Bly’s advantage. ;)

    Why care now?

    1. Because nothing else happened in that race.

  8. Haas could be a little more tactical and just tell their driver to go slower because they are seeing a bit of overheating. I don’t see why they should get another penalty as they were penalized in the race for cutting the track and colliding.

  9. Some people seem to be missing the point of Permane’s complaint.

    At lap 16, Magnussen is behind Tsunoda. He’s told he has a 10s time penalty which basically ends any chance he’ll have a good finishing position. The next lap, he goes for an overtake on Tsunoda going offtrack. The team doesn’t seem to warn him or ask him to return the position, which would be the right move most of the time (and this season the default penalty is 10s, which is usually not worth the overtake).

    A few laps later, the team decides to capitalize on their track positions and ask Magnussen to go slow in order to give Hülkenberg the gap to stop for tyres and still be ahead of the pack. This isn’t an issue. This isn’t unsportsmanlike. This isn’t what Permane isn complaining about.

    Magnussen shouldn’t have been ahead of Tsunoda at that point. The overtake was illegal and he received a penalty for it. Using that track position to then slow down the drivers behind is very much the definition of unsportsmanlike behaviour. You also have to wonder whether the team was already considering this strategy when Magnussen overtook Tsunoda.

    This isn’t like any of the cases people are mentioning. This would be like a lapped car ignoring blue flags for laps in order to slow down a rival, or just weaving the entire lap just to keep someone behind even if it means a penalty. It’s good that Permane complains about it. It would be good if this led to a regulation change so drivers can actually be ordered to give up positions as a penalty.

    1. Yes, it’s very questionable, it’s what happens when stewards interpret the rules by the letter and don’t spend a second to think who gains and how much from each situation.

      It’s also how you get hamilton taking out his main opponent at silverstone 2021 and a slam in the wrist 10 sec penalty which it was immediately possible to tell it was unlikely to cause him to lose even 1 position, and plenty of other penalties that we see when stewards don’t take into account the consequences of incidents.

    2. slap on the wrist*

  10. So, the team that serves no purpose on the grid beyond helping another team win, including impeding other drivers by being slow to respond to blue flags, throwing away their own races to impeded drivers in competition with Max, and throwing away an entire season by taking 20 places of grid drops every race while Honda did trial and error engine development for the next year for Red Bull, wants to throw shade about team tactics? The team that had to be stopped from literally running two cars identical to Red Bull Racing is going to talk about what’s sporting.” Red Bull Car 3 and 4″ or what ever other dumb name they give Minardi remain a farce that has no place on F1.

    1. “Minardi”.

      Do not sully the name of The Eternal Underdog, by implicating them in this ridiculous race of “I’ll go cry to daddy”…

  11. Second infringement should have been a stop and go.

  12. Strategy is nothing new in F1, this type of team building exercise should absolutely not be punished. Absolutely ridiculous behaviour from complaining teams, who can now be branded as sore losers, as if any rules were broken.

    F1 is interesting in that if a driver is willing to sacrifice his own race to benefit his teammate’s, he is free to do so. There are plenty of examples of team orders giving their drivers the same agenda to finish the race and let the teammate benefit, and the drivers choosing to ignore said agenda. “Multi-21” anyone?

    This would not be anywhere near as big of an issue if it was almost any other track. The only track more ideal, for blocking an entire field of faster cars, is perhaps Monaco.

Comments are closed.