Lance Stroll has gone up against some tough team mates in his Formula 1 career. One multiple champion replaced another alongside him at Aston Martin last year.
His father Lawrence Stroll clearly has the highest possible ambitions for the team he owns. For junior to play his role in that, he needs to at least demonstrate improvement alongside drivers who are much more experienced than him and have been far more successful than most.That hasn’t always happened. In 2022, his second year alongside Sebastian Vettel, Stroll’s share of the team’s points score fell compared to the previous season. And his challenge only got tougher when Vettel’s replacement arrived.
The contest between the two Aston Martin drivers in 2023 was one of the most one-sided on the grid. Fernando Alonso reached the podium eight times, Stroll not once.
Even allowing for the injury Stroll carried into the start of last season, his form alongside Alonso was poor. He followed his team mate home 14 times in the 16 races where both finished, and was thumped 19-3 in qualifying. Stroll scored just 26% of the team’s points: Alonso out-scored him by almost a factor of three.
For their second year alongside each other, and Stroll’s sixth season at his father’s team, both drivers had to cope with a car which was far less competitive than they enjoyed the year before. Podiums were no longer a serious prospect and by the end of the season reaching the points had become an achievement
Despite that, this was a slightly better season for the team’s junior driver. He even led Alonso in the qualifying battle at one stage, going 4-3 up in Monaco, but only out-qualified his team mate once more over the remaining 15 rounds.
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Stroll also finished ahead of Alonso more often than last year. One of those occasions came in Australia, where Alonso took the chequered flag before his team mate, only to fall behind due to his penalty for an unorthodox piece of defensive driving while being pursued by George Russell.
Last year Aston Martin’s failure to beat McLaren to fourth place in the constructors’ championship could reasonably be blamed on Stroll’s failure to get as much out of their car as Alonso did. The same cannot be said this year: The AMR24 was never realistically going to finish higher than fifth in the championship.
Still, given how slender McLaren’s winning margin over Ferrari was this year, Aston Martin should ask themselves whether their current driver line-up would have delivered a constructors’ title had they built an MCL38.
Stroll vs Alonso in 2024
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Qualifying performance
Unrepresentative comparisons omitted. Negative value: Stroll was faster; Positive value: Alonso was faster
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MacLeod (@macleod)
24th December 2024, 7:58
That is not what I as persoon noticed my feeling about Lance is that he is getting worse… That is to see on your graphic in the second part of the season.
notagrumpyfan
24th December 2024, 10:10
Agree!
Stroll might be closer to Alonso (over a full year) only because Alonso is finally starting to show his age*.
*or his more typical behaviour when frustrated ;)
PeteB (@peteb)
24th December 2024, 13:53
Definitely the last point… If Aston Martin suddenly had the fastest car, Alonso would pull even further clear of Stroll.
pcxmac (@pcxmac)
27th December 2024, 19:58
chances are they are building their car around Lance, and Alonso is still beating him in the points.
Denis (@denis1304)
27th December 2024, 22:47
@pcxmac I get what you are saying, and it’s something I wonder myself, but AM would be mad if it was true.
El Pollo Loco
24th December 2024, 18:52
Yup. The gap was actually bigger. RF should have done a little more homework:
•Alonso was responsible for the highest share of team points on the grid (only Max was very close) at over 80%+
•LS is lucky the highly suspect penalties in China and especially Australia cost FA a lot more points
•Quali gap was worse in reality w/only one LS win being down to performance
[A] 3 of Stroll’s quali “wins” occurred due to AM putting FA out so late and behind so much traffic he failed to make the flag or he was sacrificing tires, clean air and battery to race others to making the flag w/the most egregious being Silverstone after which he started calling his own quali run schedule/timing.
[B] Imola: You can blame FA here for losing, but not credit LS for winning on speed. FA smashed the car in FP3 and he ran wide in Q1 on an already compromised chassis requiring more looks at the car and that was all she wrote.
El Pollo Loco
24th December 2024, 19:22
PS: it gets even worse when you note that the few times Stroll finished ahead was also due to much of the same luck:
A. Monaco (you’re not going anywhere after a compromised quali)
B. Imola – same as Monaco + Alonso sacrificed his race and baited the entire field in for Stroll.
C. British GP – LS only finishes ahead due to a fluke (timing for pit stops during rain)
D. FA finished ahead in Canada, but he helped Lance get more points by intentionally hanging back to feed Yuki dirty air/slow him down for Lance who eventually got by
wsrgo (@wsrgo)
24th December 2024, 8:49
How is it possible for someone who has shown almost no potential to stay in this elite sport for 8 years is astonishing.
I know the reason of course, but if I were him I would be so embarrassed I would just leave and try making a name in Indycar or something.
Bullfrog (@bullfrog)
24th December 2024, 9:15
Is he bollards…by the time he’s the age Alonso is now, he might be on the brink of a verge of a cusp of a breakthrough.
Look, there’s a window of opportunity early in 2025, up against all these newcomers, when this team should make experience count. I can picture Alonso seizing it, but not Stroll.
Nulla Pax (@nullapax)
24th December 2024, 9:22
I’m convinced that Lance has pretty much lost all interest in F1 now.
He is still with us because he either hasn’t got the wits or the guts to go and do something worthwhile with his life, or it’s because Daddy won’t allow him to leave.
I personally would love to see Yuki take his seat when Honda and Newey arrive next year.
That’s just a silly dream though I know :/
wsrgo (@wsrgo)
24th December 2024, 11:26
@nullapax If Yuki has a good year (and he’s up against a rookie, so he should be able to beat him comfortably) and Stroll doesn’t improve, it’s gonna be really hard for Lawrence to justify keeping Lance on the one hand, and keeping on convincing Honda and Newey that he has the ambitions of winning titles.
Coventry Climax
24th December 2024, 12:01
Other than ‘He’s my son’, there has never once been any justification for Lance to be in F1 in the first place, let alone for the amount of years that he’s already been here.
So that’s completely irrespective of which designer and power plant supplier AM deal with. Those parties all know it’s a one driver team, but the money daddy spends is worthy of an eight person -or thereabouts- driver team, and they gladly accept the dollars.
notagrumpyfan
24th December 2024, 12:29
Except for winning various junior series.
More than many other F1 drivers have ever achieved.
His family connections probably has extended his F1 career, just as much as jealously has fuelled the criticism by keyboard warriors. :P
Dex
24th December 2024, 14:32
He had great advantages in his junior career, including other drivers helping him instead of fighting him. F1 showed his real talent, which is decent, but not for that level.
Coventry Climax
24th December 2024, 18:47
Ha, at my age? I don’t think jealousy about being in F1 comes into play that much, in any role, not just as a driver, mind you.
I also don’t care that much anymore about other people’s toes, to be honest, and usually just speak my mind. I’m not here to be regarded nice, or to make friends.
Still, I don’t think you’re one of the people with long toes or short fuses. We may not always agree, but that’s OK, and keeps the talk going.
Apart from all that, I know he’s won several junior series. And so have many others, who most, if not all, agree have no place in F1.
But the point still stands: he’s in F1 solely because he’s close to the funds, and personnel and suppliers don’t care if AM is a single driver team, as long as the pay good money.
El Pollo Loco
24th December 2024, 19:02
That’s true, Grumpy and it’s also the worst thing about Lance:
-He has talent
-He has solid natural speed (you don’t win a pole and several podiums if you’re not good enough to be in F1)
-He has even shown some amazing passes
…But he shows zero drive or ambition. He’s famously lazy (famously so), seems to put in zero effort or work to improve himself or the car and seems to truly not mind when he has a bad result. The Qatar shove scandal is the only display of emotion of any kind I remember seeing from the guy.
Lawrence has true passion for F1. Lance doesn’t, wants to be elsewhere and is only there because he doesn’t want to disappoint his dad yet won’t work hard enough to make him proud.
Laz
25th December 2024, 12:28
Don’t think jealousy comes into it. His fathers wealth gave him a huge amount of advantages in those junior seasons. It’s well recorded he had more test sessions, had all the best parts, got into the best teams, had the best mechanics because his dad kept paying for it all. Prior to joining Williams he even got to fly around the world testing Williams cars to better get him prepared for F1.
If Stroll performed in F1 no one would care about any of the above. But everyone is fed up with him taking a seat because the only teammate has ever beaten in 8 seasons was Sirotkin, because he keeps underperforming and costing his team positions in the constructors, because he only has 3 maybe 4 good races a year. Any other driver posting the results Stroll has put in would have been dropped after a maximum 3 seasons. But here we still are with Stroll about to start his 9th, not because he’s good enough to keep his seat in F1, but because his Dad has bought the team.
He’s blocking someone else from having a crack at F1 all because of nepotism.
Alianora La Canta (@alianora-la-canta)
28th December 2024, 22:39
Whether one grants the argument about Stroll’s performance or not (which I don’t think Lawrence Stroll does), the power supply does matter. Honda has asked teams to run their own drivers in exchange for their engines (or for discounts) in the past, so it would be completely on-theme for the request to be made again. Especially since a driver associated with Honda – Yuki Tsunoda – has been repeatedly turned down for the Red Bull seat and might need a berth in 2026 or 2027 (whenever the Red Bull deal finishes).
If a power unit supplier tied something Aston Martin wanted to sticking a driver it wanted in one of the seats, then that would provide a good way of allowing Lance Stroll a dignified exit without the matter being made personal. Stroll’s arrival at Team Silverstone was due to its being necessary for the team’s ability to keep its promises to its suppliers; his departure being in order for Team Silverstone to keep its promises to its suppliers would be easy to explain and probably also to accept.
David
24th December 2024, 14:26
I agree. I don’t think Lance cares about F1 anymore. I believe his real passion is tennis.
But he hasn’t got any reason to leave – he is guaranteed a seat for as long as his Dad owns a team, and travelling the world and driving around in fast cars is probably more fun than staying home.
Coventry Climax
24th December 2024, 18:53
I like tennis, and I don’t feel we really need Lance there.
On the other hand, the only chance we ever come across him there, is when he actually beats his opponents.
I’ll even cheer for him should he ever win a Wimbledon or any such, because that is possible on merit only.
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
26th December 2024, 1:29
Wow! “I want to leave f1, dad”, “No! You’re not leaving till you’re 40!”
asz
24th December 2024, 9:48
There is not much point in analyzing or evaluating Lance Stroll as his presence on the grid is largely independent of any performance indicators.
As long as he holds a superlicence, fits into the car, and his daddy pays the bill, there is nothing to prevent him from continuing not into his 40s but into his 50s (seeing how well people today can take care of themselves physically).
Admittedly, he does not seem to enjoy it a lot but deep down he may; his face or temperament is perhaps just not conducive to showing joy or pleasure.
Clown acts like trying to rejoin the track through a sodden gravel trap after losing the car on the formation lap are actually a means to extend his career by giving him much needed respite from racing, without having to give up his seat even for a single GP, during a very long, relentless season.
He is more or less impervious to criticism. Minor inconveniences, like becoming the laughing stock of the F1 world, or having no fans to speak of, will not deter him any.
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
26th December 2024, 1:43
Well, this year in particular perez took his place as the laughing stock, maybe even last year, but with perez gone he’ll probably get that back.
Alianora La Canta (@alianora-la-canta)
28th December 2024, 22:42
Lance does have some fans. As for the mockery, I think he does care a bit, because he completely delegates his social media and has done since 2019, but he’s also decided there’s no point surrounding himself with negative talk that is not going to abate any time soon.
MichaelN
24th December 2024, 10:45
Stroll has done better vs. Alonso than Räikkönen did in 2014.
He was faster than Alonso 21% of the time in qualifying, compared to Räikkönen’s 16%.
He finished ahead of Alonso 26% of the time in races, compared to Räikkönen’s 6%.
He scored 26% of Aston Martin’s points, compared to Räikkönen scoring 25% of Ferrari’s points.
But ultimately, none of this matters. Lance Stroll can race at his rich dad’s team so long as none of the co-owners call foul. If 2026 doesn’t bring Aston Martin to the front of the grid, history suggests they’ll be mired in the midfield for many more years. I expect that would be a great time for Alonso to retire, and Stroll to go get that MBA and become a ‘rich guy’ with a great story to tell his kids some day, about how he was on the F1 podium, raced with Vettel and Alonso, and had a great time.
As far as too rich for their own good guys go, the Stroll’s spending it on F1 racing is not a bad thing. But yeah, he’s not going to be racing at any other team than his dad’s.
wsrgo (@wsrgo)
24th December 2024, 11:27
Alonso was in his prime 10 years ago, and Raikkonen was struggling in the months after his back surgery.
anon
24th December 2024, 12:21
@wsrgo whilst Raikkonen did have surgery, there were some rather cynical individuals suggesting Raikkonen had an incentive to exaggerate the problem in 2013.
His relationship with Lotus had deteriorated over the 2013 season due to delays in paying his salary and, given he’d also announced he was heading to Ferrari for 2014, Lotus were no longer giving him the level of preferential treatment he’d insisted on previously.
It led to some suggesting that Kimi was using the need for that surgery to effectively boycott Lotus at the tail end of the 2013 season, but doing so in a way that meant he didn’t violate the terms of his contract and could therefore still claim the remainder of the salary that he was due for 2013 (at least one journalist from Reuters noted that Kimi didn’t seem to have any issues with attending his seat fitting at Ferrari just before he announced that he was going for that surgery).
Whilst your opinion on that take will depend on your level of cynicism, I think some might also note that, whilst you say that “Raikkonen was struggling in the months after his back surgery”, that wasn’t what Kimi himself was saying. He had his surgery in mid-November 2013, and when he was carrying out testing for Ferrari in February 2014, he was telling the press that his back was much better and indicating he had pretty much fully recovered – that was around three months after that surgery had taken place, with another month to go before the start of the 2014 season.
MichaelN
24th December 2024, 15:43
Indeed, in February 2014 he said after the start of testing: “I did not have any problems.” Even after he crashed the new Ferrari, he noted: “The back has been quite ok since the surgery. I hope it stays that way, but for now it seems pretty normal.” We can’t take that as 100% truth, but at the same time, he took that off the table as an ‘excuse’.
Anyway, the comparison was to note that while it’s easy to mock Stroll, he’s not properly bad. Alonso is also really good. But when you combine ‘decent but not good and definitely not great’ drivers with a total lack of pressure and add what seems like an ever increasing lack of enthusiasm about the sport, it’s no wonder he mixes average performances with the occasional facepalm moments like in Brazil.
If Aston Martin wants to be a serious team at the front, they can’t do so with Lance Stroll.
rpla
26th December 2024, 5:05
@anon One should also take into account the radio incident during the Indian GP, when Alan Permane firmly addressed Kimi on the radio with “Get out of the ***ing way!”, when Grosjean was trying unsuccessfully to get past Kimi and the team lost patience. Between the unpaid wages and this, it’s hard not to be cynical about Kimi deciding to reach for the middle finger and let Lotus F1 to search for another Finnish driver for the last 2 races of the season.
El Pollo Loco
24th December 2024, 19:14
All those stats have huge asteriks as when you look at the details, the picture is even far worse for Stroll.
-No one had a higher % of their team’s points than Alonso this season, including Max.
-Stroll only won a single quali through actually being faster. Three of the five quali defeats came down to AM quite literally putting him out too late to put in his final quali run (worst of all was Silverstone and Monaco). One was down to Alonso smashing his car in FP3 rather than Lance’s speed.
-The few times he finished ahead was also due to the same luck (you’re not going anywhere in Imola or Monaco after quali and Alonso baited the entire field in for Stroll in Imola). Stroll only got ahead in Silverstone due when they stopped during the rain. In Canada he intentionally hung back to feed Yuki dirty air and slow him down for Lance who eventually got by.
-Gaps always become smaller when a car hits the rear midfield
SteveP
24th December 2024, 11:39
Michael Andretti raced alongside Ayrton Senna, and…
…OK, yeah, Lance is doing really well.
Ruben
24th December 2024, 11:01
“Stroll makes slight gains, but drives car into gravel trap in Brazil”
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
26th December 2024, 2:00
Yes, could also say “Stroll makes slight gains, but not in reputation”!
Todfod (@todfod)
24th December 2024, 11:31
Lol.. They need to show Lance’s performance against Alonso in 2023 for a reference. Lance is awful.
Roth Man (@rdotquestionmark)
24th December 2024, 11:55
I don’t think Alonso gets the credit he deserves. All I hear is constant obsession with his age but he’s never done anything other than absolutely deliver in whatever car he’s put in. Everyone loved him last year in a competitive car getting podiums, now all of a sudden one year later he’s “too old.” It’s a fickle sport and people are too bias by car performance. Alonso is still ringing the Aston’s neck it’s just a dog.
I’d also add that again Perez Stroll looked a match, against Vettel he was “alright” it’s only Alonso that as once again proved himself the career ender (one 7 time world champion aside).
Yes Stroll looks disinterested but that’s because Alonso has annihilated him and he’s probably realised his own limitations after years of having smoke blown up his…..
SteveP
24th December 2024, 14:09
I think the narrative comes from fans of someone at the other end of the age scale. Leaving aside one instance of being beaten by a rookie, he’s always got the best out of whatever car he is in.
Maybe the coming Newey era is his chance to show what he has.
(Assuming Ferrari haven’t figured out how to put all the good stuff together, and McLaren haven’t figured out which driver to concentrate on)
Edvaldo
24th December 2024, 14:20
We can’t say if he’s too old or not without a proper benchmark.
Very few drivers get to the point of being nearly useless because they’re old (Coulthard and Hill were pretty bad on their last seasons though), but a proper reference can better show where they’re faltering. And then they may retire or not if they feel they are not as sharp as they once were.
But Stroll is so uninspired, below average, and not good enough, that he’s not able to do even that. It’s easier to believe he’s the one actually losing speed, so aimless his career is.
El Pollo Loco
25th December 2024, 17:20
He was comfortably ahead of Ocon in 2022. Had he had not had nearly 10 full car failures while in the points, he’s miles ahead on points. Lance may be the most unlikable driver in F1, but a driver so bad he can’t be used as any type of benchmark doesn’t score a pole or multiple podiums in F1. And Alonso has done exactly what we’d expect against a top driver to do against a mediocre driver, which is absolutely destroy and humiliate Lance. Something I’d say Vettel was far from doing.
Unless anyone believe Aston Martin went from producing a mediocre car to producing the best car in F1 in 2023 despite using the Mercedes suspension and gearbox, you didn’t even need a benchmark to know he was still one of F1’s best drivers.
Edvaldo
25th December 2024, 18:50
Stroll had very good cars in 2020 and 2023 and couldn’t go past 75 points in both seasons. He also trailed every single teammate he ever had, even Sergey Sirotkin, who was his junior, was faster than him, although he scored more points.
So i stand by my point, Stroll is way too slow for us to know if Alonso is slowing down or not. Ocon, Gasly, these guys are average. He is below that. And a weak teammate can flatter anyone, just look at Albon. There were people even suggesting that Red Bull should pick him back because he was destroying Sargeant, but then he got a proper teammate and these talks vanished.
El Pollo Loco
25th December 2024, 20:12
But Stroll wasn’t thrashed by Vettel, which serves as a benchmark. And once again, even if he had very good car, an incompetent driver isn’t getting a pole. Don’t get me wrong, he’s decent at best, but it’s not impossible to use him as a reference. We can also make judgements even without another driver. So, again, unless you think the 2023 was the best car on the grid, we know he performed extremely well at the very least as he was only outscored by one driver not in a Red Bull, was ranked #2 by most publications in 2023 driver rankings, went further than any other driver before failing to make a Q3, etc. More than enough indicators to know he’s still operating at a very high level. It’s merely a question of degrees.
Edvaldo
25th December 2024, 20:56
I think everybody agrees that Vettel wasn’t a great driver by the time he got to Aston Martin, it was no surprise he retired after, and Alonso at that same age was much faster, still, Vettel outscored Stroll comfortably in the 2nd year, more than double the points, and would as well in the first if not for that DSQ in Hungary.
In 2023, Stroll was outscored by Gasly until very late in the season, with a car that was 2nd fastest for a third of the races.
I think he’s very likely the worst driver out there currently. You simply can’t expect anything from him.
El Pollo Loco
26th December 2024, 1:13
I don’t disagree w/your low opinion of LS or that Seb was no longer at his best. I simply disagree that it’s impossible to use him as a reference of any kind and that even if true, you cannot still make at least a roughly accurate analysis of how a driver does against the field as a whole without a teammate for reference (e.g., if Gasly had won the WDC this season and had no teammate, I think we’d have fairly concluded he was driving at level never seen rather than concluding the car had suddenly become the best in the field by a wide margin). TBF to Lance, he lost points through no fault of his own in 2023 to technical faults (Jeddah).
Keith Campbell (@keithedin)
24th December 2024, 16:17
@rdotquestionmark I agree, Alonso has been largely underrated this season. Ok, he had a brief spell where he was outqualified and outraced by Lance for a few races (interesting, only before Newey announced he was joining, after which normal service was resumed). But in the second half of the season, he was consistently dragging a mostly uncompetitive car into points contention. The main difference between this year and last year, was that last year Alonso’s stellar performances earned him podiums, while this year the same performances earn him P9s and P10s.
spoutnik (@spoutnik)
24th December 2024, 21:16
One 7 time world champion aside, and one single time champion aside too in 2015 ;)
But I agress he’s really an incredible driver !
spoutnik (@spoutnik)
24th December 2024, 21:17
*agree
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
26th December 2024, 2:14
That was more down to the car being so horrible you couldn’t even trust it to go to the finish line, and very slow on top of that, making points a lottery.
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
26th December 2024, 2:15
And in 2007 they ended with even points, considering what the other driver went on to achieve it’s not bad on a relatively bad season for alonso.
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
26th December 2024, 2:05
I like how you guys are doing everything you can to avoid mentioning the unnamed driver, almost as if trying to avoid angering fans of his!
fawkes
24th December 2024, 12:13
If Hamilton had the same results that Alonso had this year versus Stroll people here would be even more convinced that he is washed. Yet no one thinks that is bizarre that Alonso got matched more than often by stroll. And Hamilton lost this year against Russell, that is hugely underrated, and best of the class of 2018 F2 (but somehow people also think Norris is better). This double bias irritates me.
AndrewT (@andrewt)
24th December 2024, 12:17
If you have 8 full seasons behind your back, and had the opportunity to learn from the likes of the hyper-experienced Felipe Massa, Sergio Perez, Sebastian Vettel and Fernando Alonso, you should be regarded as one of the smartest and toughest seasoned veterans on the grid, and not be confused with rookies in their messy first year. Meanwhile an incredible amount of drivers never get the chance to compete even for a single GP, or an entire season. (How many weekends would he survive in a Team Faenza car with Dr. Helmut watching him closely?) I absolutley understand what F1 owes to Lawrence Stroll for preserving Team Silverstone, keeping it on the grid, and developing into what Aston Martin is today, and without Lance on board, he probably wouldn’t have been interested in doing so, but I think that seat could be utilized much more efficiently, if we consider sporting and business factors only.
Adam (@rocketpanda)
24th December 2024, 12:25
I find the language used to describe Stroll so strange as many talk about him as a rookie, that he’s still learning, ‘improving’, etc. He’s got an F1 career longer than a lot of people he’s more than experienced enough. This is his level – it’s a respectable level, but it’s not good. Repeatedly outclassed by everyone he races against, indifferent to improvement and only there because he’s the son of the boss. People say he’s good because of one or two fluke good results, or that because of him his father saved that team but the truth is if he was in *any other* team without the support of daddy’s cash he wouldn’t have lasted more than two years at best, and now he represents the single largest obstacle to Aston Martin’s success. He’s an anchor around their necks they put there themselves.
El Pollo Loco
25th December 2024, 17:24
I don’t see anyone saying that anymore. It was ridiculous that they were talking about him like that when he was first driving alongside Vettel, but that’s more just a Lance meme at this point than reality. Ironically, it’s exactly what people having been using to excuse to the performance of Lando as well as Oscar this season.
Edvaldo
24th December 2024, 12:59
The not-so-good car flattered Stroll this year, as it brought Alonso closer to his mediocre level.
Still, Alonso scored 70 points with this dog while Stroll scored 74 with last year’s much superior machine.
MichaelN
24th December 2024, 15:27
Indeed, this is what happened with Vettel too. Still, despite the statistical closeness between Stroll and Vettel, it was telling that Vettel still took two 2nd places in those Aston Martins and Stroll never even came close to replicating those outliers. You can’t blame Alonso for not doing something similar this year though, as those chances to do so simply didn’t come about. The front of the field has mostly recovered from their 2022/2023 mishaps, such that 9th would now be a big win for a team like Aston Martin.
Frank
25th December 2024, 21:31
Blame, no. But expect, maybe yes.
F.e. I would expect the relentless compettor in Alonso to nail the Brazil GP wet qualy and then keep it on track in the race.
El Pollo Loco
25th December 2024, 17:26
Great point, Ed. That points comparison is embarrassing.
hspescador
24th December 2024, 14:45
Aston Martin’s 2025-26 best: “Newey, Alonso, Checo, Honda”. This is a huge business opportunity for Mr Stroll. If he misses it because of keeping his son’s seat, it will turn out to be one of the biggest failures in the business…
Honda
24th December 2024, 18:20
Stroll is hopeless. He can’t beat aging Alonso is sad. Alonso would have scored more points if not for bad luck during his time in Alpine but still Ocon was pretty much on par in 2yrs in Alpine.
Ocon scored 163-161pts.
Pretty much neck when both cars finished 17-17.
Alonso was slightly ahead in quali 23-21.
Esploratore (@esploratore1)
26th December 2024, 2:18
By checking the graph I think you’re being generous to stroll when you said “he can’t beat alonso”, I’d say he’s being destroyed!
Robert Williams (@weiliwen)
25th December 2024, 16:00
C’mon, why waste space by reporting on the most nepotistic (and one of the worst) drivers in F1 history? The guy is a joke, plain and simple.
Alianora La Canta (@alianora-la-canta)
28th December 2024, 22:50
@weiliwen Because all the F1 teams are getting F1 driver team-mate comparisons, and Lance Stroll is a F1 driver in a F1 team (like it or not)?