Alonso, Leclerc, Sainz: Who lost out the most from Imola’s double Safety Car?

12 comments on “Alonso, Leclerc, Sainz: Who lost out the most from Imola’s double Safety Car?”

1. 

   Scottie (@scottie)
   19th May 2025, 0:02

   So what I took away from these graphs looking at the top 3 was,
   – McLaren still have the slightest edge on race pace, only slight though
   – Lando and Oscar pretty even on pace with equal tires
   – Max held temp in his tires better at the restart
2. 

   Yes (@come-on-kubica)
   19th May 2025, 1:12

   The tyres are an absolute joke. Some of the worst we’ve ever had.
3. 

   Miane
   19th May 2025, 5:00

   Bortoleto was also massively unlucky. Before first stop he was close to Hamilton and with a good pace. Then it was a mix of a slow stop, bad strategy and the VSC.
4. 

   thesud (@thesud)
   19th May 2025, 6:35

   From a sporting perspective, it would be much fairer if a lower pit lane speed limit were used specifically during VSC periods. The lower limit for each circuit could be calculated to cancel out the usual advantage of pitting under VSC.

   A full safety car will always be inherently unfair because it bunches up the field, but at least the pit advantage under SC could also be negated by an appropriate lower pit speed limit.
   1. 

      David
      19th May 2025, 9:03

      The element of “luck” is part of the sport, you shouldn’t waste effort over-regulating it to try to eliminate circumstances giving someone an advantage.
   2. 

      S Arkazam
      19th May 2025, 10:50

      From a sporting perspective, it would be much fairer if a lower pit lane speed limit were used specifically during VSC periods.

      Fully agree, and for the full SC period as well to solve the ‘free pit stop’ under those circumstances.

      Bunching up the field and unlapping of drivers under SC is also something which devaluates the sport IMO. It’s like in football that every time the ball is out of play the losing team gets its score adjusted to just one goal behind the other team and they can get some extra free substitutes.

      And don’t get me going on DRS; again this weekend it made most overtakes too easy.
      1. 

         roadrunner (@roadrunner)
         19th May 2025, 23:43

         One could easily close the pitlane completely during VSC without disadvantaging anyone. Then reduce the pitlane speed during actual SC or increase the delta on track in the sectors not affected by the incident. But I’m afraid, for the actual F1, the element of luck is a feature and not a bug.
5. 

   David
   19th May 2025, 9:13

   Although everyone that pitted early ended up suffering (even Piastri, although it isn’t immediately evident from his finishing position), I really felt for Charles in that situation. His early stop and undercut looked like a genius move, leapfrogging him into a virtual 3rd place.

   Although Lando missed the VSC by a matter of seconds, it didn’t hurt him too much because he was still one step ahead of the others on tyre life/allocation and that worked to his advantage in the end.

   Max, Alex and Lewis all had the perfect luck with the SC timing, in Max’s case it turned an odds-on win into an afternoon cruise, for Alex and Lewis they ended up with a huge time benefit plus the right tyres at the right moment to carve their way through the rest of the field. If Charles had given Alex the space he deserved at Tamburello that could have been a P4 for Williams at the flag.
6. 

   Jon
   19th May 2025, 10:29

   1990s F1 . There would yellow flag until drive was out car and behind the barrier. The car would have been left there and the race would have carried on.

   I think there needs to be debate about this and neither car was in position that was dangerous.

   Complete different than car upside down in tyre barrier.
   1. 

      S Arkazam
      19th May 2025, 10:55

      1990s F1 . There would yellow flag until drive was out car and behind the barrier. The car would have been left there and the race would have carried on.

      I understand that for safety reasons (another car hitting the parked car at speed) they don’t want this anymore.
      But there must be other solutions which don’t last 10 laps and require a safety car.
      I suggest:
      1) (sector) VSC and a helicopter to lower a tyre barrier around the stranded car.
      2)
      1. 

         Jon
         19th May 2025, 15:49

         If it was 1990s F1 they would had more safety cars than racing laps .
   2. 

      Bullfrog (@bullfrog)
      19th May 2025, 19:18

      In 1990s F1, the accidents at Villeneuve and Tamburello didn’t end quite as well.

      Although you could argue this year’s qualifying crashes were caused by the chicanes…

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