2025 Canadian Grand Prix weekend F1 driver ratings

38 comments on “2025 Canadian Grand Prix weekend F1 driver ratings”

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   Edvaldo
   16th June 2025, 13:24

   Alonso’s trademark 8 is back!
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      RBAlonso (@rbalonso)
      16th June 2025, 15:16

      He’s in Q3, half a second faster than a teammate out in Q1. Qualified and raced very well and got the maximum result? Where could he have improved? Hulkenburg has the same score for similar output.
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         Edvaldo
         16th June 2025, 15:49

         As others have said, and i’ve been saying here for years, Stroll is no reference. You can pair him with everyone else, and they’ll look good, because he is SLOW. He was slower than Massa, he was slower than Sirotkin, who was his rookie, he was much slower than Perez, Vettel and has been slower than a soon-to-be-44-year-old Alonso.

         A 7 would be fairer, Aston is clearly improving since Imola and definitely better than Hulkenberg’s Sauber, who’s also paired with the current F2 champion, Bortoleto, a young prospect not a son of a billionaire that no one knows if he even still wants to be there or not.
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            RBAlonso (@rbalonso)
            16th June 2025, 18:06

            You can only beat what’s put in front of you. Stroll has gained numerous plaudits for his driving this season and is outscoring Alonso. Verstappen has had a joke of a teammate for half a decade, he still gets high ratings.

            I think a 7 would be fair too but in a tight midfield, getting Q3 versus Q1 is a huge achievement. 5th and 6th in practice when Stroll is no higher than 14th in any session. It’s destruction, moreso that Vettel hence the higher rating.
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         David BR (@david-br)
         16th June 2025, 22:42

         @rbalonso I’m not always convinced by his marks but this weekend an 8 was deserved, I agree. I thought he’d fade after the first stint spent chasing Hamilton and his lap times worsened but he finished the race fine.
      3. 

         Genghis Blond
         17th June 2025, 6:57

         The race ranked him #2 in their driver rankings for this weekend. So, it’s not just RF. Also, if anything, Alonso has usually been judged harshly by RF in terms scores.

         You’ll get complaints here anytime Alonso gets a decent score because there are so users here who absolutely hate him.
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      DAH
      17th June 2025, 1:03

      And well deserved too!
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   An Sionnach
   16th June 2025, 13:29

   Ouch! It’s pretty hard to rate Lando. I liked a lot of what I saw, but it was thrown away. Probably fair.

   I didn’t look at it in detail, but I thought the Stroll penalty was harsh. Looked like Gasly tried to barge his way through and ran out of space. Surely Lance can pick one direction to defend in and I didn’t think Gasly was alongside him when Lance moved. I can look at it when I get time, though.

   I liked how Antonelli and Oscar remained calm under pressure. Yes, it was hard to overtake, but you’ve still got to avoid making a mistake at high speeds.
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      Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
      16th June 2025, 16:07

      I also saw it as gasly driving into a space that was closing if I’m honest. Should have been 5 seconds at most in my view, or no penalty if he just gave the position.

      I also think almost any other driver would get a bit of sympathy for a slightly poor performance right after a wrist operation. Norris was considerably worse given what happened.

      It also is no description as to why exactly it was thought that Stroll fully deserved the penalty.

      Verstappen did a similar move that in my view was worse than this in Monza one year against Bottas. That to me was far more of a deliberate move. Stroll to me just slowly was drifting towards the edge of the track, with Gasly choosing to squeeze a tiny part of his car along side while he could see Stroll doing this. Strolls move was a bit late, but it wasn’t sudden and I would actually question it even deserving a penalty after looking at it again.
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         An Sionnach
         16th June 2025, 18:04

         Yes, looked like he was cruising around in an entirely predictable way, taking his line for the corner when Gasly decided to stick his nose in. What did he expect?

         I don’t think any of us will lose sleep over it, unless it leads to situations where those in front are expected to jump out of the way of those behind.
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   slowmo (@slowmo)
   16th June 2025, 14:21

   Can we stop rating drivers well in comparison to woeful teammates. Stroll has never been a great driver and his relative performance to Alonso speaks more about his performance than Alonso’s. The Aston Martin was arguably clearly the fifth fastest car and as such he marginally overperformed in qualifying and took the spot his cars performance merited in the race after Tsunoda started last and Norris crashed out. Overall his performance was really not that much better Hamilton’s and a long long way away from Russell and Hulkenberg who got the same 8.
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      Dex
      16th June 2025, 14:35

      I agree. Or at least those scores of two teammates should correlate. If Stroll was terrible enough to get a 3 (he was), that means that being significantly better than him doesn’t necessarily mean a great performance. Sadly, pro Aston Martin drivers (I consider Stroll a gentleman driver) don’t have a reference point to be measured against.
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         RBAlonso (@rbalonso)
         16th June 2025, 15:18

         Could this not be argued for Max for years? Drivers can be objectively impressive regardless of their teammate.
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      DAH
      17th June 2025, 1:07

      Except Hamilton is driving the second fastest car and is hopeless (as he has always been). Fernando driving 5/6 best car and is there and thereabouts with Hamilton.
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      Genghis Blond
      17th June 2025, 7:02

      So, Alonso must win a race to get a good score because his teammate is crap? Yeah, that makes sense. And while Stroll is likely the worst driver in F1 since every driver in F1 right is at least sold, he’s got about half a dozen podiums and even a pole. So, he’s not quite the Mazepin many try to make him out as.

      Let’s also be honest. You, like many others here, often have only bad things to say about him. So, this feels more like a partisan view than an honest opinion.
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   Bruno Alves
   16th June 2025, 14:25

   About Albon’s race:
   ” Clearly forced off at turn eight by Colapinto on lap one but the stewards took no interest”

   Yeah, exactly my thoughts as soon i saw the footage, but it was even noted by race direction. How do they justify such a blatant misjudge? Albon was clearly ahead at the apex but Colapinto just ignored that and pushed him into the grass, and on F1TV Palmer and Coulthard went to so far as to blame Alex for trying to overtake there, what a lot of nonsense!
   Not only the racing guidelines are rubbish the stewarding is completely random at some times, if this incident involveld driver at the front of the grid i’m sure it would have been treated differently.
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      Bruno Alves
      16th June 2025, 14:27

      *it wasn’t even noted
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      Matthijs (@matthijs)
      16th June 2025, 15:01

      If you ask me, that rule need to change. During the driver’s entire racing career in karting and junior series the driver on the inside owns the corner, unless the driver on the outside is significant ahead (commonly at least half a car’s length). It’s a fine line, but in most cases it makes perfect sense from the driver’s perspective. So the drivers are honed with this and then step into F1 where there is a silly rule that if your front wing is slightly ahead, the corner is yours, even when you are on the outside. It makes no sense and this silly rule breeds collissions and corner cuttings.
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         Richard
         16th June 2025, 21:04

         I say put walls up then both drivers won’t make moves they know they can’t complete both in passing and defending. You would think twice about making a move you really couldn’t pull off cleanly if there knowing there was no safe runoff area. You also wouldn’t push a car fully alongside you into a wall knowing the outcome would be both cars wrecked. Well a smart driver wouldn’t, I think I remember watching Ocon do it to his teammate (Perez & Gasly) more than once when there was a wall there, granted Perez paid him back with the same bonehead move in another race.
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      Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
      16th June 2025, 16:14

      Well sky also thought Albon was taking too much of a risk, and yes, so did the other commentators. I also would blame Albon for this and did so at the time. He also in my view went far too fast over the gravel and I was thinking at the same time as Brundle said that the way he rejoined the track should be investigated by the stewards. It certainly could have been done better. He also likely won’t have helped the issue he had by giving his car such a wallop when he went off. He could have been a lot more careful here.
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         Asanator
         16th June 2025, 16:38

         If that wasnt rejoining the track unsafely, I am not sure why Vettel’s 2019 win was taken away with a penalty.
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            SteveP
            16th June 2025, 19:48

            If that wasnt rejoining the track unsafely, I am not sure why Vettel’s 2019 win was taken away with a penalty.

            I think Vettel shot himself in the foot with the manoeuvre to close the gap between him and the wall after rejoining so that Hamilton couldn’t pass on the right.
            He claimed that wasn’t a deliberate dangerous move, because he didn’t have the car fully under control.

            Result:
            Option 1: Penalty for rejoining in an unsafe manner
            Option2: Admit a deliberate dangerous move.

            Either option would collect a penalty.
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      Fer no.65 (@fer-no65)
      16th June 2025, 16:30

      There’s little room on that chicane, so asking Colapinto to give room to a driver that’s already making a very risky move, makes no sense.
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         An Sionnach
         16th June 2025, 23:28

         Yes. Stupid from Albon. Did he think Colapinto was going to disappear? The only way to leave space was to pull over and wave him past.

         In addition to Hulkenberg in Spain, I’m getting annoyed at how drivers make a stupid move and then don’t suffer the consequences of it by cutting corners. They may end up behind, but in an advantageous position and not way back or even down some places. If there are no walls, cutting the corners should only be allowed when someone is genuinely pushed off. Albon and all the corner cutters should get five second penalties.
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            Laz
            17th June 2025, 10:32

            I don’t think Hulk did anything wrong in Spain. I assume you mean that first lap, where Lawson tried to dive up the inside of Alonso, tagged Alonso’s rear causing them both to slide and control their cars. Hulk sitting behind them both had to react and evade by going off track or he would have gone into the back of Lawson. Lawson lost time collecting his car and backed up the cars behind, and so Hulk rejoined the track alongside him as a result. He gained a place on a driver who had lost control of their car and caused the incident in the first place.

            Albon was a lot more obvious, he was doing the same in Spain when Lawson was trying to pass him. Don’t concede take to the run off, try to maintain the position. In Canada he was the attacking driver, but on the outside he did not have enough of an overlap to really command the corner, he should have conceded but took to the grass instead.
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               An Sionnach
               17th June 2025, 20:04

               Thanks. I’ll take a better look Hulkenberg’s start.
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               An Sionnach
               17th June 2025, 23:44

               I re-watched it from the onboards. He starts in 15th, passes Bearman and Albon off the line and is behind Lawson going into the first corner. Lawson has committed to going for the apex when Alonso comes across in front of him. They touch and Hulkenberg moves quickly to the left where he is hit bay Albon, who was trying to go around the outside. This is when Hulk makes a break for the run-off area, where he overtakes only one car – Lawson. He overtakes Bortoleto and Alonso later in the lap. The F1TV commentary wondered how he gained so many places. It was only one place using the run-off area, but if that was not there at all he’d have lost places. He was investigated for gaining an advantage, but was allowed to keep it. I think this could be fixed by making the run-off areas longer, or putting a chicane in them. Yes, that could lead to a pile-up, but it would still be better than having no safety valve, without making using it a valid strategy to progress in the race.
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   Jere (@jerejj)
   16th June 2025, 14:30

   Most impressed: RUS, ANT, ALO, & HUL
   Most disappointing: NOR, LEC, TSU, & GAS
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      RBAlonso (@rbalonso)
      16th June 2025, 15:18

      Why Lec as most disappointing?
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         Patrick (@paeschli)
         21st June 2025, 19:34

         Underperformed in quali. No pace in that last stint.
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   RBAlonso (@rbalonso)
   16th June 2025, 17:28

   Struggling with Leclerc’s rating again.

   He beats Hamilton in Practice 3, is 2.5 tenths ahead in q2 and has a difficult lap in Q3. He then matches Norris’ pace until his final stop and is a full pitstop ahead of his teammate.

   Norris’ rating suggests the final outcome of the race is what matters, Charles suggests it’s how you get there. Are we really saying there was a better result for Ferrari than 5th on the table? If the car was so good why is Hamilton getting away with being so far off the pace? Hamilton’s pace fell away at the same time it always does, I’m sure the damage had an impact, but are we saying his previous midraces woes are behind him and only the damage hurt his race?
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      Esploratore (@esploratore1)
      16th June 2025, 18:35

      I agree that’s strange, I would also think 5th was the best result you could get with the ferrari, mercedes looked really quick, red bull wasn’t bad either, and mclaren was the 3rd best car.
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         An Sionnach
         16th June 2025, 23:34

         I thought the McLaren looked second best because the Red Bull was hard on the tyres. Max’s qualifying and the circumstances of the race kept him ahead of the three faster cars behind. He was lucky Antonelli kept them off his back. They may not have passed him anyway, but you don’t want so many cars queuing to pass you when you can’t make any mistakes.
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      DAH
      17th June 2025, 1:02

      100% RBAlonso. Charles beats Hamilton in all areas including the race yet scores lower again! The bias is ridiculous!
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         DAH
         17th June 2025, 1:04

         Charles 5. Hamilton 6. LOL.
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      Genghis Blond
      17th June 2025, 7:06

      In RF’s defense, they know they’ll have to deal with a lot of angry Hamilton fans if there’s even the tiniest argument for putting LH higher. So, I forgive them. I root for Hamilton too because I want the older guys to do well, but I am objective enough to deal with reality.
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         DAH
         17th June 2025, 8:14

         So they just fudge it to placate the Hamilton cult right? Cant defend that Im afraid!
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         An Sionnach
         17th June 2025, 20:06

         I like seeing the older drivers do well, too, but suspect that, like myself, they are slowing down!

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