Hungary qualifying was a “morale boost” for Russell

35 comments on “Hungary qualifying was a “morale boost” for Russell”

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   @HoHum (@hohum)
   9th August 2019, 0:16

   At Williams, maybe the floggings can stop now. But I don’t think so.
   1. 

      Andy
      9th August 2019, 21:37

      I doubt they are flogging anyone – but is that what you would do in their situation? Flog people? Do you think that boosts morale? Or is your post just hyperbole?
      1. 

         @HoHum (@hohum)
         9th August 2019, 23:34

         @andy, Perfect grammar, extensive vocabulary but lacking humor and nuance. Are you organic or artificial intelligence ?
         1. 

            anon
            10th August 2019, 12:56

            @hohum, rather than attacking the poster, you could also ask the question of whether the true problem is that the “joke” you tried to make fell flat in the first place…
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               @HoHum (@hohum)
               11th August 2019, 0:08

               Possibly true, but I think “attacking” is hyperbole.
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   Glamo
   9th August 2019, 0:21

   A step forward, but don’t overlook Kubica kept Russ within 10-15 seconds for the entire race. Not too bad for an apparant one armed over the hill driver taking it to the current F2 champion…..
   1. 

      bosyber (@bosyber)
      9th August 2019, 7:09

      Did he? I missed that, but wasn’t he lapped one time more than Russell; wonder how that works.

      Right, looks like that was maybe true until the 1st pitstops, though on lap 20 it was already 15s, and subsequently it was more like 15-20s; and while it got briefly less (I think when Hamilton lapped Russell,Stroll straggle), at the end of the race it was 33.5s (before Russell did a, final lap that Kubica didn’t get – he lost 3,2s Russell 2,0 to the leaders the lap before, so might have been 34-35s). So, that’s losing about half a second per lap, on average. Much closer than in qualifying, certainly, but, sorry, not really impressive, esp. given that Russell was almost constantly defending from either Gio or Stroll while he mostly had clean air.
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         Matthijs (@matthijs)
         9th August 2019, 7:35

         @bosyber Where do you get that information from? From the lap charts on this site, the difference between the two Williams drivers was about 5 seconds before the pitstop and 10 to 15 seconds after the pitstop, all the way up to lap 59. After that Kubica lost quite some time, don’t know why.

         https://www.racefans.net/2019/08/04/2019-hungarian-grand-prix-interactive-data-lap-charts-times-and-tyres/
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            bosyber (@bosyber)
            9th August 2019, 7:55

            @matthijs those lapcharts indeed – look, as I said, lap 20 it’s about 15s, though 15 laps later it is getting below that, and around lap 40 it’s down a bit further, for 5 laps, shortly after it gets a lot bigger again, and in the end it’s 33.5s. But, with Russell fighting Gio and Stroll the whole time, keeping them behind, even Kubica getting a bit closer in the middle of the 2nd stint, isn’t doing much to impress me, sadly.
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               Matthijs (@matthijs)
               9th August 2019, 8:54

               @bosyber You are right. I find it very hard to rate Kubica. Yes he is normally (much) slower than Russell, but what did we expect? We often hear critics saying that it’s too easy to drive an F1 car, but it’s very hard to drive an F1 car fast. How can we expect someone, who has been away from F1 for 9 years and away from racing for quite some time, to match the current F2 champion? Not to mention that the car he is driving now is so different from the car he was driving back in 2010. I respect and admire Kubica for chasing his dreams but the mountain he has to climb to become competitive is probably too high.
            2. 

               Ericglo
               9th August 2019, 9:33

               nobody said he couldn’t race in F2 to reaclimate himself to racing a single seater.
            3. 

               spoutnik (@spoutnik)
               9th August 2019, 11:56

               @matthijs @bosyber
               He has some contact with Giovinazzi on the first lap but engineer says the data looks fine. But he’s looking slow, constantly corrects and wrestle the first move out of each corner and is quickly loosing ground. At the end of lap one there is a 10 car length gap already.

               On lap 4 the train going from 11 to 20 splits in two with 17th Stroll loosing ground. Russel is in the first half while Kubica is last and already out of DRS range from 19th-placed.

               From then on its a lost cause I think. Kubica may not be that slow compared to Russel but in four laps it looks game over. Very average start, positioning not great into the first corner, contact with Giovinazzi and overtaken by a hungry Ricciardo.

               I got those from F1TV onboard and data replay
   2. 

      Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
      9th August 2019, 7:29

      Not really the entire race for the majority yes. On around lap 62, Kubica was around 13 seconds off Russell.
      By the end of the next lap, he was over 20 seconds behind. This kept increasing and by the end of the race, he was getting on for being nearly 35 seconds behind.
      1. 

         bosyber (@bosyber)
         9th August 2019, 8:05

         Okay, so let’s say his middle of the race was quite okay, after losing 10-15s in the 1st stint, and it lasted until he lost performance in his tyres.

         That is unlike Russell, who gained those 15s in the 1st stint (partly due to being higher up in the field from Saturday), but also lost less time to the leaders in the last 10 laps, increasing his relative pace, so that the difference grew by 20s, and who, again, was fighting to keep Stroll and/or Giovanacci behind for the whole race.

         Now, Verstappen too couldn’t hold on to his tyres, but, he was (sure, better car) fighting for his win for the whole race, so it’s not quite comparable. Apart from three times being lapped, Kubica seemingly had quite a bit of free air to work with, and all it got him was at the same pace as his teammate.

         @thegianthogweed, @matthijs, and yes, there’s a lot to say it is impressive, as a human feat, but, for a racing driver, no, it is not very promising or great as a comparison to his rookie teammate to me, sadly.
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            bosyber (@bosyber)
            9th August 2019, 8:09

            First stint, might have to be in/outlaps (because Kubica’s stop was only half a second slower than Russell’s so that’s not it) though, because he was indeed only ~6s behind before that.
3. 

   maiagus
   9th August 2019, 1:01

   An unintended good consequence of 18inch wheels could be an increase of perception of motion on “hard” parts of the car.
   Most of the suspension work nowadays is put on tyre flexing – which is almost impercebitilble to the naked eye.
   One of the most fascinating silly aspects of racing car for me is the perceptible movement on braking, accelerating and turning.
4. 

   Hemingway (@)
   9th August 2019, 1:16

   It’s either his science teacher from school, his dad, Nicki Minaj (or some other stripper he’s fallen out with), or Nico Rosberg. Hahaha I just don’t get how LH is so childlike with his emotions.

   I do wonder if having access to all the money and material possessions etc. that he has, combined with him being surrounded by yes men and women, is actually detrimental to his personal and social development.

   I bet Nico is laughing at him too. Absolutely mental. But at least the comments didn’t get under LH’s skin.

   #Blessed
   1. 

      Stephen Crowsen (@drycrust)
      9th August 2019, 1:58

      How can it be Nico? He’s involved with broadcasting now, and from what little I’ve seen is very complimentary towards Lewis. It sounds like another driver, but I’m not sure who.
      Lewis should know that often it is better to just ignore what people say, especially if it is a twisted version of the truth. If what they’ve said is complimentary … well that can just feed your ego, which isn’t good. If what they’ve said is uncomplimentary … then reading it is just going to make you angry.
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         bosyber (@bosyber)
         9th August 2019, 7:13

         I think Rosberg said something like that Verstappen is now on Hamilton’s level, and will soon overtake him, as he gets older @drycrust – I do follow Rosberg’s channel as he often says interesting things, but have to admit didn’t have much time/interest in a lot of analysis these last few weeks, so haven’t seen it myself.

         I guess this reduces the chances we get a good HAM interview on that channel somewhat, pity his racing driver interviews are different and usually enlightening.
      2. 

         Alianora La Canta (@alianora-la-canta)
         9th August 2019, 16:41

         @drycrust I haven’t specifically checked his comments because they became irrelevant to me some years ago, but this sounds like the sort of controversy Jacques Villenueve would amble into – and he’s also sometimes mistaken for having a failing career.
   2. 

      James (@knewman)
      9th August 2019, 2:50

      I just hope he’s keeping a diary or something for when its memoir time
   3. 

      Aaditya (@neutronstar)
      9th August 2019, 3:41

      @theessence Lewis’ responses may be considered immature, but he’s just saying what he thinks and it’s possible that many other more “mature” drivers/athletes (who’d choose to keep quiet in such situations) would think the same. His is an understandable line of thought, childish or not…and also, a lot of the “adults” who claim to be mature aren’t really so 😂

      If the difference between maturity and immaturity is keeping your mouth shut at the right time, then that’s what you should be calling Lewis out for, not for his emotions themselves. That being said, I don’t see why he has to keep quiet here in the first place? @drycrust
      1. 

         bob (@riptide)
         9th August 2019, 7:54

         Agreed, and at least this is consistent with what he has said in the past on the negativity that surrounds those who try to achieve. He has been pushing this message constantly at various forums (including such events as the Global Education Forum where he has been a guest speaker) since he left McLaren. Not an insta/twitter fan for subjects such as these, as I believe a measured message has more impact; but I assume he is targeting a particular audience by using such platforms. And at least on issues such as these he puts his money where his mouth is.
         Basically all he is saying is ‘don’t let the $%&£(&s grind you down’.
   4. 

      Hugh (@hugh11)
      9th August 2019, 10:56

      Yikes
   5. 

      bob (@riptide)
      9th August 2019, 11:09

      One has to smile at the lack of self-awareness Hemingway displayed in the tone of their post.
      1. 

         Hugh (@hugh11)
         9th August 2019, 13:24

         Well at least hes E(a)rnest about his views.
   6. 

      Andrie
      9th August 2019, 17:57

      I’m surprised it bother Lewis too, as Lions do not loose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
5. 

   ruliemaulana (@ruliemaulana)
   9th August 2019, 4:29

   LOL at ABC news. Why no ‘journalist’ asked Chase Carey about wrong color artist playing Disney live action movie?
   1. 

      bob (@riptide)
      9th August 2019, 7:35

      Is Carey on the board at Disney?
      1. 

         Alianora La Canta (@alianora-la-canta)
         9th August 2019, 16:44

         @riptide He’s on the board of the merged Fox-Disney element, yes. Though I’m not sure whether that’s the part involved in the live action movie specifically.
         1. 

            bob (@riptide)
            9th August 2019, 17:28

            Well I knew he was on the Fox Corporation board (the bits that didn’t go to Disney), but I didn’t know he was also part of the Fox/Disney empire.
6. 

   Jere (@jerejj)
   9th August 2019, 9:02

   Regarding the COTD: There are four races in the American continents actually, and the time differences between them aren’t vast.
   1. 

      Hugh (@hugh11)
      9th August 2019, 11:04

      It’s not the time difference so much as the travelling distance I think. According to Google Maps, for fans in say, Costa Rica, it’s around a 3 hours flight to Mexico City, which isn’t too bad – but it’s then over 6 hours to Austin, almost 8 hours to Montreal, and 9 and a half hours to Sao Paulo. Remove Mexico, and fans in that area of Central America / the northern part of South America (there must be a decent amount), will be much less willing / able to go to any races.
      Also sidenote, the Mexican GP races usually aren’t that bad right? Not classics, but decent enough. And the fans there really are phenomenal.
   2. 

      Remmirath (@remmirath)
      9th August 2019, 19:39

      The time differences between the races in the Americas aren’t large, but the time differences between those races and every other race on the calendar are. It is nice to be able to watch some races live on TV rather than recorded, and that’s very difficult for most people in the Americas to do for most of the calendar, with the European race starts often falling between 4:00 and 7:00 AM depending on where one is.

      And, as Hugh states, the travelling distances are significant. Mexico City and Austin are the closest two, but that’s not saying much (especially if one isn’t flying, which not everyone does).
7. 

   Adub Smallblock
   9th August 2019, 14:10

   “Already four races in the Americas”? True, but that is an area four times the size of Europe.

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