Vettel: Adding new kerb after qualifying “a joke”

34 comments on “Vettel: Adding new kerb after qualifying “a joke””

1. 

   David BR (@david-br)
   5th November 2019, 0:34

   What ‘her maj’ and the fusty gerontocracy she represents think of him [Hamilton] I do not care one iota, and nor should anyone

   Like the tweet @keithcollantine!
   1. 

      @HoHum (@hohum)
      5th November 2019, 4:41

      Me too, whatever you think of Boris you have to admit he is not one to shy away from controversy, if he is still there for next years honors list it might just happen.
   2. 

      bob (@riptide)
      5th November 2019, 8:56

      Never understood why people tweet ‘I don’t care one iota’. Why tweet then?

      And its not up to the maj or her cronies to decide who gets one. The initial recommendations come from the field the recipient works in. So whilst some take time to tweet they don’t care, some might wonder why a 6 x WDC champion gets the lowest honour, whilst the women who runs daddies team into the ground gets a higher award for services to motorsport?

      Its just a shame that he probably will be offered one in the future, and a bigger shame that he will accept.
      1. 

         David BR (@david-br)
         5th November 2019, 9:59

         @riptide On the contrary, not caring is the appropriate response. Otherwise you get trapped in the vortex of disliking the monarchy and what it still stands for (the likes of Boris ‘Piccaninnie Watermelon Smile’ Johnson?) and arguing whether Hamilton merits being honoured by his country. Of course he does. But the system is set-up so that it – the legacy of a colonial, imperial, racist system – gets approved every time people of genuine worth are approved. I won’t judge or prejudge anyone accepting such an award, but the whole subject irritates me and makes me fairly nauseous.
         1. 

            bob (@riptide)
            5th November 2019, 10:40

            If people don’t care, then don’t care. Why tell the world? Or do these people think their not caring is more important than the subject matter they don’t care about.

            ‘Tell the world what you have had for breakfast, and hope that someone, somewhere cares.’

            Not that I care. :)
            1. 

               David BR (@david-br)
               5th November 2019, 11:20

               @riptide Presumably because even some Formula 1 journalists, and definitely the sports journalists, want to debate the issue.
            2. 

               LosD (@losd)
               5th November 2019, 12:25

               @david-br So they DO care? Why write the opposite, then?
            3. 

               David BR (@david-br)
               5th November 2019, 12:36

               @losd Who wrote the opposite? This conversation is getting confusing.
            4. 

               NS Biker (@rekibsn)
               5th November 2019, 15:40

               Who said it was confusing, perfectly clear.
               Some people don’t care, but they care about other people … caring, which they probably shouldn’t care about.
               As James Bond noted (per Ian Fleming) all that a Knighthood would do is make hotel stays more expensive.
               Now that I could care about.
   3. 

      Sam Donaldson from ABC News
      6th November 2019, 0:10

      This website is becoming less entertaining and less engaging by the weeks….time to reconsider where to get “F1 NEWS”.
   4. 

      Anthony
      8th November 2019, 19:34

      You have made it clear that you don’t care. Apparently you do care that people know that you don’t care. Truthfully, I care more about LH’s likely honorific. Let’s hear more about that.
2. 

   Sensord4notbeingafanboi (@peartree)
   5th November 2019, 1:16

   Masi and his puzzling decisions. I fear he is trying to secure his job by ingratiating with the top teams. Merc couldn’t run that tight in t8 but RB could.
   Fundamentally flawed decision, change the track before the weekend.
   1. 

      bosyber (@bosyber)
      5th November 2019, 7:49

      I think your conspiracy is a bit crazy there @peartree, but I do agree with you and Vettel that putting in such a blunt obstacle after all practices is too late ; not clear why that wasn’t done (and in a better way) by Saturday morning, if at all.
      1. 

         Sensord4notbeingafanboi (@peartree)
         6th November 2019, 6:30

         @bosyber not implying that masi did that for mercedes, however no one would question masi if he took reasonable decisions, perhaps having common sense and logic for once anyway toto has expressed his approval of masi more than a couple times .
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            bosyber (@bosyber)
            6th November 2019, 10:09

            Oh, well good to see, your post seemed to indicate that @peartree; Isn’t Wolff just in a apeasement role, with little to gain from not supporting the FIA’s man? So, then we definitely agree; just saw that Masi now says he’s sorry the stewards didn’t get to look at Verstappen’s move on Magnussen, now over two days ago – rather slower and accurate than quick fire with mistakes might be a thing, but such a comment does indeed not strike a reasonable balance to me.

            It seems like he has some growing to do to properly fit the role, even though I understand that Whiting is a hard one to follow. Surely there are ways he might improve on Whiting, but, as you say, then he does first needs to be seen as an dependable authority by all teams; not sure that the way the Ferrari PU talk, RBR clarification were done was the best way either, as it results in anger and mistrust remaining in the pitlane, which isn’t really healthy longer term.
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               Sensord4notbeingafanboi (@peartree)
               8th November 2019, 6:23

               @bosyber I don’t think whiting can be replaced, the role should have been restructured. I don’t think Masi will ever turn good, at the moment he is a temp so perhaps trying to please the big teams will guarantee a promotion and hopefully after that stop making inane decisions. What are you going to say about Peroni, from the kerb to the medical response, too much for masi no common sense nor guts
3. 

   @HoHum (@hohum)
   5th November 2019, 4:48

   I enjoyed the race commentaries provided in the US by Steve Matchett and David Hobbs, solid, knowledgeable analysis with insider anecdotes. I wish him well and hope he is getting a decent return on his book sales.
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   Fer no.65 (@fer-no65)
   5th November 2019, 5:40

   Agree with Seb. A safety related change cannot wait, but adding a kerb to avoid drivers abusing track limits after qualy makes no sense. Friday should be the very last day in which changes are done to the track.

   Or, more sensibly, do it after track inspection. It cannot be that hard….
5. 

   J (@juliusbaxter)
   5th November 2019, 6:40

   I was sat at exactly that grandstand pictured (T9) on Saturday and noticed first Ricciardo and then Hulkenburg *really* cutting turn 8 a lot, I was wondering why they weren’t being called out for it. Most others were staying well within the limits there. So I’m a little surprised that the actions of a couple caused them to install a sausage.
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      bosyber (@bosyber)
      5th November 2019, 7:57

      In qualifying, at least Gasly, and I think Kvyat, and maybe Giovanni, perhaps others did it too @juliusbaxter, but even so, it really shouldn’t have been blocked at such a late point in the weekend.
6. 

   Hakk The Rack
   5th November 2019, 7:02

   The kerb added after qualifying is totally same rubbish as those tire chicanes added after Italian qualifying in 1996, which eliminated Hill and more in the race.
7. 

   ColdFly (@)
   5th November 2019, 8:05

   Do they fill the holes with toothpaste after removing the curbs?
8. 

   F1 Codger
   5th November 2019, 10:00

   If Vettle did not run over the sausage (as he says) then it cannot have broken his suspension so why victimise the sausage, it obviously did not cause a problem?
9. 

   F1 Codger
   5th November 2019, 10:16

   The alternative scenario is that the sausage was guilty, it was just that Vettle did not notice he had driven over it, in which case it would be preferable to have a ‘Virtual sausage’ in order to save his bacon.
10. 

    Jere (@jerejj)
    5th November 2019, 10:30

    Re Nate Saunders’ tweet: I don’t see anything wrong with the approach of handing out the trophy in the prize giving-gala in December.

    I share the same sentiments as the COTD. People indeed sometimes tend to base their judgments solely on the final results even though usually there are more to things than just those.
    1. 

       erikje
       5th November 2019, 14:39

       It’s already embarrassing that the winner of the race gets less recognition for his performance.
11. 

    Adam (@rocketpanda)
    5th November 2019, 11:48

    Totally disagree with the COTD; retaining Giovinazzi is ridiculous when you have people like Hulkenberg available. Giovinazzi has been a simulator driver for Ferrari, raced for Sauber in the past and done test sessions – he has enjoyed a lot of experience with F1 machinery, far more than Russell or Norris and an absolutley huge amount compared to Albon – and all three have shaded him in pace, speed and consistency. He’s crashed out of the points several times, is regularly slower than his considerably older team-mate and with what is arguably a reasonable car has scored less than Ericsson managed against Leclerc. He may be ‘improving’, but at the moment he’s arguably one of the weakest drivers on the grid and is only marginally better than Kubica & Stroll.
    1. 

       erikje
       5th November 2019, 14:41

       He is Italian, the only one in a field with six Ferrari powered cars.
    2. 

       anon
       5th November 2019, 18:51

       @rocketpanda, with regards to Giovinazzi, in terms of direct racing experience, it’s probably closer to two years that he’d not had a competitive race.

       After his 2016 GP2 title, he had those two races at the start of 2017, then seven free practise sessions scattered over the rest of the year. In 2018, he then had six free practise sessions scattered over the course of the year.

       However, in the period from April 2017 to March 2019, he only took part in one race – the 2018 24 Hours of Le Mans, where he was driving a GTE car. When he started this year, he hadn’t competed against other drivers on track in a high performance single seater car for two years.

       Now, it is true that he’s had simulator testing and some free practise sessions, but even then, we’ve seen other drivers have their skills blunted after shorter periods out of the sport. Consider, for example, Nick Heidfeld’s return in 2010 – he’d been working for Pirelli as their test driver, and before that he’d been working for Mercedes in the simulator. His workload wasn’t dissimilar to Giovinazzi’s workload, and he still found it took him a bit to acclimatise after being out for only three quarters of a season.
    3. 

       F1 in Figures (@f1infigures)
       6th November 2019, 10:00

       True, Giovinazzi is one of the worst drivers for the reasons mentioned. Being outscored 31-4 by a 40-year-old is pretty bad. Only Kubica may be worse. Stroll is actually better I think, because his race pace is quite alright and he has one or two surprise results every year.
12. 

    Carlos Medrano (@carlosmedrano)
    5th November 2019, 17:49

    So the car getting damaged WAS Vettels fault. All the vettel fans moaning about him being unlucky look especially dumb now after the fact that it was all his fault and Vettel still took no responsibility for his own errors. Vettel went as far to blame the car for what happened and not his driving he is the biggest liar in f1, and does it to try to fake the narrative that its ferrari and not his bad driving causing all the losses. Also I like the bumps in punishes drivers for cutting the track
    1. 

       NasiBoring (@nasiboring)
       5th November 2019, 18:27

       Please enlighten me @carlosmedrano where did you read that it was Vettels fault? Give me some proper source, because i really don’t see it.
13. 

    F1oSaurus (@)
    5th November 2019, 20:44

    There actually was a replay during the race of Vettel going over that sausage kerb and receiving a massive blow from it. Sparks flew off the car. A bit later the suspension broke altogether.
    1. 

       F1oSaurus (@)
       5th November 2019, 20:50

       Also it’s rather rich that Vettel complains about potential car damaging devices being places well outside the racing line .

       What happened to Vettel’s desire for being punished for going off track?

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