How many times was Hamilton overtaken in 2014?
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I’ve been wondering how many times someone has overtaken Hamilton last year and made it stick?
I thought no one had, then remembered Ricciardo in Hungary and Bottas in Germany (although running a different strategy, HAM didnt fight too much).Any other cases? Does not include when Hamilton had technical issues or from the starting line.
He was overtaken by a decent chunk of the field in Australia.
He was also overtaken by a number of cars at the start in Italy.
Any other cases? Does not include when Hamilton had technical issues or from the starting line.
@craig-o he had a technical problem with the engine in Australia meaning his start was underpowered and he was overtaken easily in the opening 2 laps.
@theo-hrp I should have said, but mistakes don’t count ;)
@pezlo2013 no, rosberg never made that pass stick. Hamilton just lined him up straight after as Rosberg was on a compromised driving line.If technical issues don’t count, then Magnussen/Vergne/Alonso overtaking Rosberg in the next few laps after the safety car came in at Hungary doesn’t count, because Rosberg had brake problems at the time.
Same goes with Ricciardo’s pass on Rosberg in Canada, it doesn’t count because of car problems.
If Rosberg’s pass on Hamilton at Bahrain doesn’t count, then Hamilton’s repass on Rosberg in Bahrain also doesn’t count, as it was just a matter of Nico not being able to make the move stick.
In which case, Rosberg was only overtaken 3 times in 2014. On two occasions, by Hamilton. Once in Japan and once in United States. Once by Bottas, in Belgium.
Hamilton goes one better, as he was only overtaken twice. Once by Bottas in Germany and once by Ricciardo in Hungary.
By contrast, when you look at a championship winner with less dominant machinery, Vettel got passed at least 10 or 11 times in 2012. By Alonso in Malaysia. By Button, Hamilton, and Webber in China (twice by Jenson). By Hamilton in Canada. By Button in Hungary. By Alonso in Monza. By Hamilton in Austin, and by Kobayashi and Massa in Brazil.
Pretty sure rosberg just had cold brakes in Hungary when he was overtaken. If he had an actual brake problem, how did it magically ffix itself later in the race?
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No, entirely the opposite actually. Rosberg’s brakes weren’t cold at all, Nico’s brakes were overheating at the safety car restart. He had to manage them for at least a couple of laps, which allowed Magnussen/Alonso/Vergne to sneak by. Toto Wolff confirmed this. His brakes were even smoking during the SC period (something which does not happen when the brakes are cold).All in all Rosberg only got overtaken 3 times this season on merit, twice by Lewis, once by Bottas.
In recent history, I don’t recall Kimi Raikkonen being overtaken even once in 2005.
Drs can be enabled in the wet when inter tyres are being used. Only if the race director deems it safe enough. In suzuka there was a lot of spray at some stages but the actual amount of water on track was safe enough for drs to be used. Obviously these levels changed during the race and drs was disabled at certain points. Hamiltons timing worked out for him here!
@pezlo2013 apologies. I didn’t read the full post!
The Riccardo pass on Hamilton in Hungary wouldn’t count either under those rules as Lewis had a fuel pressure problem at the time and was nursing the car home, recently confirmed by Toto in post season interview & Pete Windsor on the racers edge.
But it didn’t affect Hamilton as we saw in the race he was able to defend strongly against RIC and later ROS. only difference is RIC got the move (a good move too) done.
Sorry should have said, the fuel pressured problem I’m talking about isn’t the one that caused the massive fuel leak in equally which resulted in the fire, he actually was nursing a different fuel pressure problem in the closing stages of the race.
Toto Wolff:
“Yes reliability is our main concern, we had some issues on Lewis’ car in the race again – some fuel pressure problems in the car again which needs to be analysed,” he revealed.Pete Windsor went into more detail on this issue that occurred in the race, on how much performance was lost and at the time he was coming under attack from RIC. But if that fuel pressure problem hadn’t of occurred then RIC wouldn’t of caught up with Lewis at anywhere near the rate his did, even with fresher tyres. So it certainly did affect Hamilton. Also Lewis’s defence of ROS was a lot heavier than he did on RIC and ROS really only had 1 lap where he could really attack and given the nature of the track Lewis kept him behind until the end of the race.
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