Is the second year after a major rule shake up better than the first?
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- 16th July 2014, 23:36 at 11:36 pm #266754NickParticipant
Lately I’ve been thinking about some of the similarities we have seen over the years during which comprehensive new rules have been implemented. For instance, one team tends to dominate (Brawn in 2009, Mercedes in 2014), while others (Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull in 2014) struggle to come to grips with the new rules.
Overall, 2009 wasn’t the most spectacular of seasons. 2010 however, provided many thrills, with Red Bull, McLaren and Alonso dishing it out for the title. There are similar scenarios where a year after rule changes (1999 as opposed to 1998, 2007 as opposed to 2006) tend to provide more drama and action than the initial year. This could very well be due to the non-dominant teams catching up or simply the dominant team(s) losing their edge due to a lack in their rate of development.
Am I talking gibberish (as per usual), or could we potentially have a more exciting season just ahead of us?
17th July 2014, 1:47 at 1:47 am #266761KingsharkParticipantDon’t forget that 1999 was quite a bit more entertaining and competitive than 1998.
This phenomenon does seem to occur.
17th July 2014, 2:26 at 2:26 am #266764Iestyn DaviesParticipantI agree.. I came to the rough conclusion that Mercedes were gaining 0.75 on Ferrari and 1 second per lap on Renault in outright pace at Austria. Look how this would tighten up the grid:
Ferrari -0.75, Renault -1 second Pos. No. Driver Constructor Fastest Lap Car deficit 1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1.08.442 *Lost pole time* 5 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault 1:08.466 +0.02 7 26 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso-Renault 1:08.490 +0.05 4 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:08.535 +0.10 2 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:08.644 1 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:08.759 +0.30 13 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:08.801 2 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:08.846 8 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:08.907 14 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault 1:08.939 +0.50 15 25 Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso-Renault 1:09.073 16 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:09.461 6 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1:09.473 +1.00 10 27 Nico Hülkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:09.624 +1.20 (one stopping) 11 11 Sergio Pérez Force India-Mercedes 1:09.754 12 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:09.780 17 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1:10.024 +1.60 18 21 Esteban Gutiérrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:10.599 19 17 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1:10.662 +2.22 20 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 1:10.673 +2.23 21 4 Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1:11.025 22 9 Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault 1:11.560
Noticeable here are the Williams being the ‘preferred Mercedes customer engine’ as is reported, getting upgrades first, and Toro Rosso’s car not being that much worse than the Red Bull’s.. some could say almost identical in pace…. while Button really looked off the pace, even more so than the car, and there is strong evidence for Gutierrez, Chilton and Ericsson to be replaced.
In any case, it’s likely we’ll see Red Bull close up on Mercedes next year, while Ferrari and McLaren should be moving on up ahead of the Mercedes customers. Lotus will have an intriguing battle with Williams and Force India for 5th place, while Toro Rosso will probably stay ahead of Sauber and the two small teams from the big push Red Bull is giving it (probably because they can’t spend any more money on the works team), possibly closing on Force India or Lotus, if their development cash is lacking.
18th July 2014, 1:02 at 1:02 am #266883sato113Participantsorry Iestyn, can you explain that table for us? i dont get what it’s trying to show.
18th July 2014, 4:56 at 4:56 am #266885Iestyn DaviesParticipantI forgot to include an explanation.. It’s the Austria 2014 qualifying times, but I tried to ‘equalise’ for engines, without seeing the exact telemetry. It shows how close it’ll be, once the engines are more developed in 2015, when the others are likely to close in on Mercedes’ current advantage, along with current 2014 chassis strength.
For Mercedes, I used their best sector times, after Q3 was a snafu. McLaren will be looking to jump up by 0.5 or 0.75 to be a top team again with Honda, same for Lotus with Mercedes. Red Bull is the odd one here, as it looks like Kvyat got the ‘lead car’ instead of Vettel. Maybe a ‘test run’ for 2016..
The 3 drivers I outlined for replacement, were all way off the pace of their team-mate, despite there only being 9 corners. Grosjean mucked up Q2, while Vergne lost his mojo, after injuring his hand before Q, else Vettel may have been the worst RB driver overall. Chilton was only a third of a second off, but I imagine Palmer might be able to do a better job now, while Button improved in time for Silverstone.
22nd July 2014, 18:22 at 6:22 pm #267819Iestyn DaviesParticipantI’ve made another ‘corrected grid’ for Germany.. and realised I need to include a handicap for Force India and McLaren as well:
Force India, McLaren -0.25, Ferrari -0.75, Renault -0.90 Pos Driver Car 5 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1’16.373 16 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1’16.433 (-2.25 sec) +0.060 (or -0.040?) 1 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’16.540 6 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1’16.677 2 Valtteri Bottas Williams 1’16.759 +0.386 7 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’16.899 +0.516 4 Kevin Magnussen McLaren 1’16.964 +0.581 8 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 1’17.065 +0.692 3 Felipe Massa Williams 1’17.078 13 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1’17.385 12 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1’17.523 9 Nico Hulkenberg Force India 1’17.764 +1.391 10 Sergio Perez Force India 1’17.785 11 Jenson Button McLaren 1’17.943 14 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber 1’17.989 +1.616 15 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1’17.994 +1.621 17 Adrian Sutil Sauber 1’18.392 18 Jules Bianchi Marussia 1’18.926 +2.553 19 Pastor Maldonado Lotus 1’19.295 20 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham 1’19.508 +3.135 21 Max Chilton Marussia 1’19.739 22 Marcus Ericsson Caterham
Renault engines may fit better with the extra tenth taken back off.. track improvement looks like 0.4 per session here, against 0.25 for Austria. Losing FRIC has pushed Lotus back by about half a second per lap, while McLaren have finally moved forwards to be competitive again. So.. taking engine and tyres out of the equation, we are left with car and driver…
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