Only champions winning races
- 20th September 2011, 20:58 at 8:58 pm #130101EnigmaParticipant
I did a bit of research and realised something quite interesting: 2011 could be the first season in the history of formula one where only world champions won races. Vettel (8), Button (2), Hamilton (2) and Alonso (1) have won this year, and if they manage to win the remaining races (and Schumacher can as well) it will be the first time ever this has happened.
Something similar happened in 1963 and 1993, where the only drivers to win races were world champions, but there’s one difference – in 1963 Surtees won, but he wasn’t a world champion yet – same goes for Clark. In 1993 it’s the same for Schumacher and Hill.
1950 and 1953 were only won by world champions if you exclude the Indy 500, though again, Fangio and Hawthorn respectively were yet to win a title (and Farina in 1950).
Back to 2011, Webber is probably the only driver who can do something about that, perhaps Massa and Rosberg as well. If Vettel, Button, Hamilton and Alonso win the remaining races it’ll be pretty special. Even more so as it’s the longest season in the history.
And with the top 5 in the Italian GP being only champions (first time ever), it arguably shows what a quality grid we have.21st September 2011, 1:06 at 1:06 am #178535
Do you mean only current and former champions, or do you mean out of any year of future/past champions winning? i.e. if for example Webber didn’t win races last year we’d get the same 4 people winning; except Vettel wouldn’t be world champion yet. Does that count?21st September 2011, 1:10 at 1:10 am #178536KingsharkParticipant
Do you mean only current and former champions, or do you mean out of any year of future/past champions winning? i.e. if for example Webber didn’t win races last year we’d get the same 4 people winning; except Vettel wouldn’t be world champion yet. Does that count?
I don’t think so because Vettel wasn’t champion yet.21st September 2011, 2:24 at 2:24 am #178537
Yes but you could argue that if Webber didn’t win in 2010 it would only have ben champions or future champions winning races.21st September 2011, 3:32 at 3:32 am #178538EnigmaParticipant
Do you mean only current and former champions, or do you mean out of any year of future/past champions winning?
As I said in my post, in 1963 and 1993 that happened, with Surtees and Hill respectively not having won titles yet. This year it’s only former. Last year Vettel wouldn’t count as champion as he wasn’t one yet.21st September 2011, 10:21 at 10:21 am #178539AnonymousInactive
You really are Statman! :P21st September 2011, 10:27 at 10:27 am #178540
Actually there is one guy who does keep a record of all these stats from the beginning of time. Well the beginning of F1 anyways. You could follow him at @virtualstatman on Twitter; Sean Kelly. Very friendly and does answer questions about statistics21st September 2011, 11:05 at 11:05 am #178541AnonymousInactive
Yeah I realised this the other week, didn’t think to research it or make a post for it though. Glad you did as it’s really interesting to see that its a very rare occasion. You can probably expect some dodgy F1 end of season review DVD title if it stays this way “2011 F1 Seasons – The season of champions”.21st September 2011, 11:09 at 11:09 am #178542
I would think that FOM would make up a cornier name like Clash of the Titans or Battle of the Champions something21st September 2011, 14:21 at 2:21 pm #178543RatboyKeymaster
But if Webber wins a race this year then WDC next year we could have 3 seasons where WDC would have won races only on the trot.
unless of course someone else wins next year21st September 2011, 22:33 at 10:33 pm #178544AndrewTannerParticipant
Well sussed Enigma. I almost don’t want Webber, or anyone that’s not a WDC to win now!21st September 2011, 22:38 at 10:38 pm #178545mnmracerParticipant
I would pay good money to see Schumacher win the last five races :D
Maybe see Hakkinen return to win a race for McLaren after… uhm… Hamilton decided to partake in the 2011-bumper car championship instead.21st September 2011, 22:48 at 10:48 pm #178546sbl on tourParticipant
bet our fellow ulsterman, maurice hamilton knew that stat, and 1000 others besides!22nd September 2011, 15:35 at 3:35 pm #178547AnonymousInactive
Ahah interesting stat! Maybe the fact we have a so huge number of WDC counts.. How many championships in the past could have 5 world champions on the grid?22nd September 2011, 15:50 at 3:50 pm #178548AsanatorParticipant
I doubt he did SBL! He would probably have had to look it up in his ancient old notebook and then upon regurgitation slipped in some nonsense anti-Schumacher or Ferrari sentiment.
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