Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo gave a harsh verdict on Felipe Massa’s season when talking to Italian journalists yesterday.
According to Reuters, Montezemolo told them:
At a certain point in the season Felipe was fed up and sent his brother. For this Felipe gets seven minus.
For [Fernando] Alonso, in his first season in Ferrari, I give him nine and a half. But unfortunately even he didn’t win.
Luca di Montezemolo
Massa ended the season sixth in the drivers’ championship, 108 points behind Alonso. He did not win a race all year, but was ordered to hand victory to Alonso while leading at Hockenheim.
In October Montezemolo said he expected Massa to give “the performances of a number one driver” to help Alonso win the championship.
Montezemolo also downplayed rumours he plans to leave Ferrari and go into politics:
Let me do my work, I’m so happy that we have lots to do here at Ferrari, lots and lots.
Luca di Montezemolo
Luca di Montezemolo
- Montezemolo: Massa ??a number one driver??
- Montezemolo defends driver switch
- Montezemolo expects FIA reaction
- Di Montezemolo attacks new teams and calls for shorter races and more testing
- Criticism of Ferrari Marlboro barcode prompts outburst from Montezemolo
- Montezemolo: ??F1 needs credibility?
Image ?? Ferrari spa
Steph (@)
14th December 2010, 11:57
It’s not the most original thing Luca has said seeing as he was talking about Michael’s evil twin pre-season but good job on keeping your driver happy there Luca, sure he’ll be delighted to read that :P
“For this Felipe gets seven minus.” Is that his grade or what he lost at Germany?
bosyber
14th December 2010, 12:13
LOL, well put Steph. It would be good if Ferrari evaluated before and after Germany Massa seperately and realized how the team orders telling him just how little trust they placed in him effected their chosen 2nd driver.
I don’t think it would have been a stellar season for Massa regardless, but Ferrari might have been able to keep the dream of the WCC alive for longer.
Ads21 (@ads21)
14th December 2010, 13:20
lol I think thats COTD right there
Ned Flanders (@ned-flanders)
14th December 2010, 13:45
Haha! Took me a moment to figure that one out. -7 is indeed a very harsh mark… he did after all score a good few podiums over the course of the season, and there’s no shame in being beaten by Fernando Alonso
Fixy (@)
14th December 2010, 13:58
It isn’t -7, it’s 7- out of 10. (Just a little less than 7)
LewisC
14th December 2010, 14:04
But he lost seven points by exchanging first place (25pts) for second (18pts) behind Alonso.
Is funny, like joke, yes! Ha!
;)
wasiF1
14th December 2010, 16:04
I didn’t get that minus 7 thing, I think he should motivate Massa. I think Massa is struck in a jail, he won’t be able to work freely in Ferrari.All will go just as Alonso wants.
Fixy (@)
14th December 2010, 17:52
Massa was rated with a vote of 7- (little less than 7) out of 10, but he lost 7 points of the WDC in Germany.
spudw
15th December 2010, 23:49
Fixy has the sense of humour of a Ferrari press officer.
Sush Meerkat
14th December 2010, 19:04
Steph, I love you, thats the comment of the year for me.
BasCB
14th December 2010, 20:28
“At a certain point in the season Felipe was fed up” Now why would that be Luca?
I would love if Massa would actually send his brother to the next simulator run or test to show he really is fed up and will want his boss to give him equal opportunities next year.
This almost makes me feel as if Ferrari are planning to push Massa out and get someone else in the car.
Fixy (@)
15th December 2010, 13:50
Not only do they treat him as a nothing, they also compalin to him.
Jimscreechy
15th December 2010, 19:23
Hmmm you know, the whole title is a bit of a misnomer. “Drove like his brother” only really has reference if his brother has some capacity or recognition as a racing driver… which he clearly doesn’t. For all we know his brother may be a fantastic driver (though not a famous one) in which case the headline would be a compliment.
I’m sure there are people scratching their heads as to the true meaning of this headline. Clearly a failed attempt to construct (and perhaps sensationalise) a headline from the comments of the Ferrari boss. Just a pity Luca didn’t say he sent his Grandmother in to drive for him, then we would all be quite clear on the meaning, and Keith Collantine would have to clutch at straws for a fitting headline for his article.
Magnificent Geoffrey (@magnificent-geoffrey)
14th December 2010, 11:59
So who was driving in Fernando’s place in Hockenheim, then? Alonso’s whiney baby sister?
bosyber
14th December 2010, 12:14
No, that was Valencia I think. Not sure that performance would have granted her a return visit.
Joey-Poey
14th December 2010, 18:53
Good one, Geoff X)
Icthyes (@icthyes)
14th December 2010, 12:12
I don’t really recall any point of the season when “Felipe’s brother” wasn’t driving. All of his good results were down to the car. So Monty can’t even get that right.
Luca says all this stuff, yet he still wants him to win the world championship for him next year if Alonso can’t do it. I expect in 9 month’s time we’ll see lots of “Felipe is a #1 driver who can get the results needed to help his team win the championship” interviews.
Leave now, Felipe. Even if it means quitting for good. You’re far better than these hypocritical clowns.
Icthyes (@icthyes)
14th December 2010, 12:14
bosyber
14th December 2010, 12:16
Massa clearly had an impedance mismatch with his team there – just the wrong synchronisation. In other races he mismatched with the car instead.
Adam Tate
14th December 2010, 22:42
That’s cause Luca is showing his true colors. What a complete douche he is to even say something like that.
DaveW
14th December 2010, 14:48
Another season under Alonso’s and Luca’s heels will ruin his reputation. He should be looking for a Renault or even a Force India drive now.
Todfod (@todfod)
14th December 2010, 15:14
Oh come on! I’m sick of people talking about how Felipe is getting crushed under Alonso and Luca, and that he should quit Ferrari and look for another drive.
Firstly, he should be lucky he has a Ferrari contract in the first place. I really do not see a lot of top teams very eager to sign Massa anyways.
Secondly, if he has to recover his ‘reputation’, let him do it on track. I’m sick of him putting the blame on tyres, team status, blah blah. And I’m sick how all the fans blame his abysmal performances on Hockenheim. He was pretty crap before Hockenheim as well, and post Hockenheim, he just got a little worse.
DaveW
14th December 2010, 15:42
Well answer this: why should he continue to drive for a team if the guy in the other car is dictating his strategy during the race and the company boss is publicly slating him afterward. (What kind of professional organization attacks its key personnel in public, anyway?) Is that really the team where a driver is going to rise up and “prove himself”? At Ferrari, once Luca gives you the malocchio, you are done. Ask Michael, ask Kimi, who went right down the plank as soon as favor was lost.
If a top driver decides that driving for Ferrari, or any other team, is enough reward in itself, and greater than the chance to achieve his full potential, then he truly has lost his respect for himself and shouldn’t expect it from anyone else.
Luca’s comments are now inviting the paddock to view him as a 2nd rate, unmotivated driver, who is content to ride around in a red car because the red car is so cool.
I don’t think Massa has lost his self respect, and thus he needs to step into a reasonably quick car, beat a respectable teammate, and reestablish the brand he earned in 2008. He can do it. He can come back in a couple years into a McLaren or a RedBull and win a title or two.
Todfod (@todfod)
14th December 2010, 16:42
Are you implying Fernando was deciding his race strategy by asking where Felipe was in Abu Dhabi? Answer this – What was expected of Felipe in Abu Dhabi? Was he expected to win the WDC? Was he to help secure the WCC? or was he to help Ferrari secure at least one title in 2010? It was not Fernando deciding on his race strategy… it was common sense that he was going to try and assist his teammate in Abu Dhabi.. just like he did in Brazil 2007.
As for Luca slating him.. what do you expect from the most demanding team in the paddock? He has been with Ferrari 5 years, and has nothing to show for it.
Michael walk the plank?? Come on! Everyone was sick of that combination.. the fans, and even Michael and Ferrari wanted a new challenge. Additionally, before the retirement decision, Michael was confident of winning in 2006 and retiring on top. I guess that didn’t work out for him, and he retired anyways. Ferrari wanted to see their cars driven by new drivers as well. Michael had been there 10 seasons! As far as Kimi goes.. we all saw his lack of motivation and consistency in 2008 and start of 2009. If I were a team principal and I got an option of dumping Kimi for Fernando.. I would definitely take it too.
You have to constantly deliver for you F1 team.. especially a Ferrari or a Mclaren. If Fernando screwed up this year he would be in the same position too. And I really doubt there would be as many people sympathising with his situation. Its the survival of the fittest in Ferrari, and Massa is weak.
I really do not see Mclaren or Red Bull interested in Massa. Hypothetically speaking, even if he did get a drive with Mclaren or RB, he would experience some further confidence damage at the hands of Vettel and Hamilton.
Jimscreechy
15th December 2010, 17:55
I I tend to agree with Mr Todfod here. Even though There is often more to these F1 situations behind the scenes, a driver really has to perform to get the respect or justification for his position.
Rubens was another driver outclassed by his teamate at Ferrari and though I’m fairly certain Michael certainly held the reigns at Ferrari when he was there, Rubens constantly spoke of what he could do without ever delivering.
Philppe did a good job against Kimi but Raikonnens suspect attitude was his downfall. Before you all jump on me, I’m not saying Raikonnen wasn’t an exceptional driver or that his lack of involvement were due to nonchalance or indifference. But clearly this did affect his ability to succesfully liaise with the team, and ultimately cost him is seat.
Perhaps Massa thought it would be a similarly easy ride with Alonso. Perhaps his crash last year affected him more than we realise. Clearly he has ‘fallen off shape’ for some reason. If he performs this way, and worse! can’t get his mojo back, then he is going to come under a considerable amount of pressure and criticism, irrespective of which team he drives for or who his boss is… isn’t that the way the world generally works?
Mike
15th December 2010, 21:45
As for Luca slating him.. what do you expect from the most demanding team in the paddock? He has been with Ferrari 5 years, and has nothing to show for it.
Nothing to show? What about losing the championship to Hamilton in the last corner of the last race 2008? (and I’m a Hamilton fan.)
Todfod (@todfod)
16th December 2010, 15:52
@Mike. The key words you mentioned ‘losing the championship’ says everything. He lost to his teammate in 2007, to Lewis in 2008 (heartbreakingly.. but a loss none the less), and in 2010 he got beaten by his teammate again.. and lost them 2nd place in the WCC.
mfDB
14th December 2010, 15:01
If Massa is that good, then let’s see how he compares to Alonso next year. If he is indeed slower, like he was all year, then he really is the # 2 driver and will probably be perfectly happy driving a Ferrari for $xx,000,000 a year…..
I would love to see him come back as fast as Alonso in 2011 and see the 2 of them fight it out for at least the first half of the season. Maybe we could blame 2010 on the spring-to-face incident.
The reality of this situation is the same at most other teams in that one driver is usually much quicker than the other driver and is therefore the #1 (we were lucky this year to have sort of even McLaren and RBR drivers). People can say what they want about car parts and updates, but c’mon, one driver is usually faster and the team back that driver…any team.
Mike
14th December 2010, 12:15
The obvious person to be upset by this is Massa.
But If I were Alonso I’d be (as Murry would say) Ab-so-lute-ly FURIOUS!
Even if he is one of my least favourite drivers on the grid, I can see that the amount of effort Alonso put in was staggering.
(Lol, Steph, seven minus, I get it! Very funny.)
Steph (@)
14th December 2010, 12:22
Thank you Mike :)
Luca’s comments do also actually downplay what Alonso achieved in comparison to Felipe.
As you say, Alonso put in a staggering effort while Felipe usually drove where the car was at in my opinion so scoring Felipe so low brings down Alonso’s score to in my mind.
Todfod (@todfod)
15th December 2010, 13:22
The more obvious person to be offended would be Massa’s brother. He would probably be like – “What the hell is Luca getting me into this for.. he hasn’t even see me drive a car!”
Craig Woollard
14th December 2010, 12:20
Only 9.5 for Alonso? He’ll be fuming with that, he clearly knew he drove a perfect 10 all season. *COUGH Monaco, Silverstone, Germany, Belgium, Abu Dhabi COUGH*
mfDB
14th December 2010, 15:03
Well if thats the case, then Massa was about a 4.
Adam Tate
14th December 2010, 22:48
If you look at this, which is surely the most comprehensive, objective and best tabulation for driver rankings I’ve ever seen, Massa didn’t actually do so bad. It was more down to the guys ahead of him driving incredibly well. Here’s the link:
http://www.theracedriver.com/2010/12/unique-f1-driver-ratings-2010/
Shimks
15th December 2010, 9:53
That post by Peter Windsor is SUPERB!
Many thanks, Adam.
mfDB
16th December 2010, 22:21
But Massa, in a Ferrari, is supposed to be….is expected to be, one of those guys driving incredibly well.
ajokay
14th December 2010, 12:28
Or as the rest of the world calls it, six-and-a-half. Do they not have fractions in Italy?
May as well leave Ferrari now Flippy, there’s nothing for you there. I would say there’s a test seat open at Sauber, but that would be a lie.
Meander
14th December 2010, 12:57
*nitpicking..
ACtually, a seven minus counts as 6.75 ;)
macahan
14th December 2010, 13:27
Your not expecting Montezemolo to actually manage fractions?
He got no skills other then running his mouth. Can’t believe what he said here (well actually sad thing I can believe and the only other I would expect something so rude and belittling is either Flavio Briatore or Max Mosley).
Why don’t he just fire Massa and be done with it instead of making his life miserable. But I guess he wants Massa to quick on his own accord.
These kind of stupid comments is NOT going to make Massa feel part of the team and welcome. Constant attacks like this and orders to move aside (germany) going to guarantee that your not showing up with your best A game on race weekend. If Massa been given the win he earned and made for himself in Germany I think the rest of the season would been lot different.
But IMO the rest of the season after Germany he drove extremely poorly, worse then before but then what’s the point? If he drive good he’s not going to get a thank you just a move out of Alonsos way your in the way.
HounslowBusGarage
14th December 2010, 14:33
Macahan, you’ve just reminded me about Flavio. Didn’t he say something “Kovilainen didn’t turn up to drive, he sent his brother” a couple of years ago?
Adam Tate
14th December 2010, 22:50
Oh gosh, Flavio, let’s hope Luca doesn’t start acting like that guy.
Fixy (@)
14th December 2010, 14:03
Yes, here in Italy votes are very variable. Between 6 and 7 you could have:
6 6+ 6 1/2 6/7 7- 7
6,00, 6,25, 6,50, 6,75, 6,85, 7,00
d-d
14th December 2010, 12:29
I’m not so familiar with Montezemolo so I am confused – is it typical italian bla-bla-bla or is this political preemting move and Massa is doomed if he won’t do really good next year. Or maybe a mediocre attempt to attract some attention in dull period of the season.
damonsmedley (@damonsmedley)
14th December 2010, 12:31
And to think people thought Red Bull favoured one driver over another… What a disgusting thing to say.
Adam Tate
14th December 2010, 22:51
So true Damon.
Horner’s approach of no team orders at RedBull is really starting to win me over, especially when Ferrari says such awful things about a driver who has done so much for them.
Todfod (@todfod)
15th December 2010, 13:06
Did he win you over after FP3 at Silverstone?
King Six
14th December 2010, 12:34
Get a grip people, Massa was trailing Alonso by a fair margin in all aspects before the race in Germany, so it wasn’t just that. Monty is more or less spot on. By Massa’s standards, he was woeful.
There’s a load of reasons why, the crushing last-lap disappointment of 2008, the new rules/tyres of 2009 onwards maybe haven’t suited him and then post-Germany there was probably nothing left in the tank.
Hopefully he can get things together and have a good 2011 season. There’s nothing to suggest he can’t be like Webber and Button and keep up with his team mate despite what everyone says, and if he does that he won’t find himself in the situation he was in at Hockenheim.
Steve
14th December 2010, 12:53
Agreed. He put himself in that position and he only has himself to blame. He was uselessly slow before Germany.
phoros
14th December 2010, 12:41
I wouldn’t want to have such a boss…
rbc
14th December 2010, 15:56
the boss that pays you 14 million dollars a year . yeah you wish
verstappen
14th December 2010, 16:09
and not to forget: the boss who let’s you drive a Ferrari F1 car (on top of that money)
Mike
16th December 2010, 0:22
Is that Jon V, NZ?
phoros
14th December 2010, 19:01
Yeah, Guys, you’re right. But there is and must be something more than $ and glamour of being the tiffosi’s chosen one. We know or at least sense it. They also do. It’s a pity that one of most important teams creates such an atmosphere. It’s not the first time and probably not the last one. Unless rumours are true and Luca is going to switch to politics. Maybe the next boss will act in different manner, use wiser words. Call me naive or sentimental but sometimes I wish we all have more humanity in the paddock. Imagine Peter Sauber telling something like that about his drivers…
Sammy
14th December 2010, 21:33
I agree. Ferrari’s arrogance with which they treat their seat is quite annoying. Infact, were it not for Michael Shumacher and Brawn’s reclamation project of their team a few years ago, their prestige would be a lot more dimmed than it is now.
Drivers need to have the confidence of their bosses too, I think
Hamish
14th December 2010, 12:48
I’m going to put it out there and say he won’t be there next season. Why, well I have no idea.
Shimks
15th December 2010, 9:56
Because he’s simply average, that’s why. But surely that’s what makes a great #2 driver?
Dev
14th December 2010, 13:06
i’m not sure if Alonso and Massa had similar cars, i think that the team did not do enough to make car better for Massa but they put all their efforts in getting the car right for the santander sponsored pay driver aka Alonso…
Todfod (@todfod)
14th December 2010, 15:22
Are you trying to suggest that the car was designed to Alonso’s driving style ever since Bahrain? I mention this because Alonso was quicker than Massa from the 1st race to the last.
People will try and look for any explanation to how Felipe got so convincingly outclassed.
tharris19
16th December 2010, 17:47
I believe that is the case because I think Alonso would have demanded it since he won the race. I believe Alonso is faster than Massa but not consistently .5 sec or more race after race.
Massa was much closer than that to Kimi in 07 and 08 and I know Kimi can beat Alonso with a similar car.
Todfod (@todfod)
17th December 2010, 8:49
“I know Kimi can beat Alonso with a similar car.”
You obviously know something that others do not.
verstappen
14th December 2010, 16:18
I’m no Alonso fan, but he really is fast.
And competitive to the point of being a sore loser.
Which are both good competences for an F1 driver. In his case, that’s why there always will be plenty sponsorship money whereever he goes.
Just look at Schumi’s retirement outfit. His name and some appearances at events were enough for Deutsche Vermogensberatung to keep sponsoring him
Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys)
14th December 2010, 13:10
Wow, so what was all that talk of the team giving Massa their full support? It did feel a bit like a party line at times, but it’s pretty obvious Massa has no standing with the Powers That Be at Ferrari. He deserves more.
AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner)
14th December 2010, 13:36
Let’s be a little sympathetic here. Massa suffered major head trauma last year as a result of that spring and as a result no doubt missed out on a proportion of pre-season development. I would think 2011 would be a fairer judgment of him.
Paulo
14th December 2010, 13:39
Keith – I thought it might be interesting to publish a list of the most commented on stories throughout the year. Just a thought.
spudw
15th December 2010, 23:59
And how about a story on the most idiotic comments from Ferrari management?
Luca really has no class. He may be correct in his assessment of Massa, but the way he has thrown it out here is disrespectful to Massa (and his brother), and does nothing to aid his driver’s confidence or sense of standing in team. A career in politics? What a joke!!
I pity Ferrari, though, as they are so desperate to please a Tifosi that are so narrow-minded as to accept nothing but victory. It really forces them to say stupid things to the media.
Ldom
14th December 2010, 13:42
Sure, IMHO Massa is still a great driver and I hope he’ll do good in 2011. (And BTW I’m a McLaren fan…)
It’s quite obvious that he lost his motivation after the Hockenheim debacle.
Even if he was slightly slower than Alonso in qualif, he could have done better during races with the proper rage.
alexander
14th December 2010, 14:16
what a ****** idiot he was the one who decided not to let felipe win the german gp
how can he say he underperformed he only had one retirement this season(his carreer best non finishes)
Alonzo wasnt any better
he made tones of mistakes:
-spin in austrailia
-malasia blew the engine
-china jump start
-monaco p3 crash
-turkey- out of q2 , massa into q3
-dirve thru at silverstone
-germany could NOT overtake massa (team orders implemented)
-spa crashes out (rookie error)
-bad team decision abu dhabi
massa:
crashed with luizzy canada and susuka
brazil- bad quali+race result
you may think massa was slow but the fact is that alonzo was on top form thats why he was 3 tenths a lap quicker
Gill
14th December 2010, 14:43
Vow, hats off to u. Did u even read ur comments before posting it ? Ur whole comment is hilarious. Since I dont have patience to comment on ur whole post, I take ur last sentence.
In ur view, Alonso was 3 tenths quicker coz he was in form. He was quicker than Massa in almost all the races and to be out of form for he whole reason is beyond reasoning. Who asked Massa to be out of form ? Th fact is that he simply didnot drive the car fast , not even in his home GP. To blame Alonso for Massa’s performance is pleasing ur ANTI-ALONSO minds/hearts. Each car ca be set in different ways. Massa could have setup his car to his liking just like Button did in Monza and on several other occassions. fan fanaticm is good but its got to backed with logical reasoning.
spudw
16th December 2010, 0:27
I thought it was Massa that jump-started in China
Ed
14th December 2010, 14:49
I think its unfair to criticise Massa’s second half of the year – it wasn’t that bad, apart from Suzuka.
Germany should have been a win. Hungary and Spa were solid 4ths, Monza and Korea were good podiums, and the team let him down at the other three – Singapore, Brazil and Abu Dhabi.
Johan
14th December 2010, 14:59
I think the big problem for Massa is that Alonso is an incredibly fast talented driver. Probably one of the best we have ever seen. Alonso could make just about anyone look slow in the same car. It’s the harsch truth – not sure what he can really do about it.
Dan Newton
14th December 2010, 15:44
“Alonso could make just about anyone look slow in the same car.”
Yeah, just ask Hamilton!
(Digging up a hornets nest with that one)
Johan
14th December 2010, 16:36
I see what you mean with a hornets nest. :)
Hamilton is admittedly not “just anyone”.
I think Alonso did it at Renault for sure. He has a great abiltiy to get the most out of a car that’s not always the fastest on the grid.
Dan Newton
14th December 2010, 18:59
Was just making a lighthearted comment, and you have a good point. He (Alonso) got more than most out of the 08 and 09 cars even if we done mention ‘that team mate crash’.
Jimscreechy
16th December 2010, 13:58
Couldn’t agree less. Alonso isn’t the most talented or the best driver though he is certainly top 5. I would put him on par with Kubica in terms of skiill and talent rather than the likes of Vettel and Hamilton who really are at the extreme end of the talent spectrum. In fact Alonso himself stated this quite clearly during the season he isn’t the most talented driver but the delivery of top tier consistent results are where his strengths lie… I’m paraphrasing here so forgive me.
MadMalc
14th December 2010, 15:19
Alonso monumentally failed to make Hamilton look slow when he was at McLaren. And Hamilton has only shaded Button this year. Massa was well up with and sometimes in front of Alonso in the first half of the season – the call to let Alonso pass destroyed his self esteem.
owain
14th December 2010, 15:24
an incredibly harsh thing to say, but at the same time i am suprised massa is even still at ferrari. i don’t think he has much support within the team (other than rob smedley of course).
it’s a real shame but it’s what alonso does (or tries to do, like at mclaren) he needs to be the unquestioned leader of the team. why were alonso’s performances so much better after hockenheim? because he knew that he was number 1. if ferrari were going to replace massa, they would have to find someone that would be happy to be number 2. there is not a chance in hell of kubica settling for it, and for me he is the only option.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
14th December 2010, 15:39
Maybe Dudu Massa is a really good driver and Montezemolo meant it as a compliment?
wasiF1
14th December 2010, 16:08
One of the problem is that after Germany Massa himself have been slightly shaken off as he knew no matter how fast he drive Alonso will be faster & even if Alonso can’t pass him, Alonso can always cry to the team.
Captain Jack
14th December 2010, 17:07
Simple solution to all this and it ryhmes with Kubica.
Want to see a Ferrari thrown around Monaco, Spa or Suzuka within an inch of it’s life? RK is your man. That guy would be a force of nature in a Ferrari.
Icthyes
14th December 2010, 17:14
And the effective end of Alonso’s career. The guy’ll have nowhere else to run once RK rattled him.
Paul
15th December 2010, 1:15
There’s no way Kubica will be Alonso’s team mate because Alonso will want assurance that Kubica is the number 2 driver and RK will not accept that. Probably a wise move from Alonso as Kubica would give him a run for his money and we know how ALO reacts under pressure given his self destruct at McLaren
wasiF1 (@wasif1)
15th December 2010, 1:33
Agree with you Icthyes & Paul
Kubica will thrash Alonso if they both run in the same car.I want Kubica to driver for a WC winning car if Lotus Renault fails then it will be wise for him to find somewhere else for 2012 if the team release him.He need to unleash his talent.
Weasel Chops
14th December 2010, 17:17
*attacks Alonso because Monte’ said something weird again*
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine)
14th December 2010, 18:33
It’s also reminiscent of what Montezemolo said about Schumacher this time last year:
See: Luca di Montezemolo expects Michael Schumacher to join Mercedes
wasiF1 (@wasif1)
15th December 2010, 1:35
He said somehting about Kimi when he started the 2010 season that Kimi gave his helmet to someone else, & they couldn’t give them a better car so they left Kimi & signed Alonso.
qazuhb
14th December 2010, 18:33
I expect both drivers to get equal treatment until Alonso is one point above in the WDC standings (probably before the start of the second race of the season). From then on, Felipe will have to do the right thing for this is a team sport, you know. And the rest of the season, he’ll drive at 50% just to collect his money.
Corey
14th December 2010, 18:44
Ummm. So you are unhappy with your driver?…..again. You had the same problem with Michael? What are you talking about? Before Michael moved to Ferrari, the team was an also ran, a mid-field team, few podiums, fewer wins. Then Michael moves to the team and turns it into “the team to beat”. Quits half way thru the season? You mean like in 99′ when he returned from Silverstone to dominate the remaining races(only to move over and let Irvine attempt to win the driver’s title)? Or do you mean in 03′ when the car/tyre combo was a nightmare? or perhaps 05′ with the riduclous tyre rule, or finally 06′? You remember that Luca, don’t you? Michael was 25pts adrift after Canada only to fight back, and have his car fail him in Suzuka when he was leading your new boy Alonso, and then again in Brazil when it was all but lost, he fought hard was the quickest only to have a fuel pump problem? I think Luca needs to re-evaluate his statement, at least about Michael, and if you are not happy with Felipe, why not oust him like you did Michael.
Paolo
14th December 2010, 18:49
What LCdM should say to cover up Massa’s bad season? He said “Massa drove like his brother” meaning “I know Felipe can do better than this”. If he said “Felipe’s year was perfect, the best he can do” was it better??
We all know he was slower than Alonso all the year, even before Germany.
The mistake Ferrari made with Massa was giving him a new contract just after a few races: too soon for a driver that isn’t as good as Alonso; but we all know that Massa is backed by Fiat Brasil
tharris19
14th December 2010, 21:10
LDM and SD treated him like an unwanted step-child then say he under performed. I can’t post what I think about Ferrari’s treatment of Massa or Massa’s response to that treatment. I would find it difficult to discuss violation, rape, etc., without a viseral and vulgar statement.
Jameson
15th December 2010, 6:36
Every time Montezemolo opens his mouth an angel loses it’s wings.
Massa came back this season after a massive, nearly career ending shunt just to have some slick stiff in a suit berate him for being forced to under-perform? Too bad Montezemolo is downplaying his political aspirations–he’d make a great pretentious despot.
spudw
16th December 2010, 0:29
He’d make a great second act to Berlusconi, and Italy would continue to be a political laughing stock.
knoxploration
15th December 2010, 7:44
Gee, Luca, I wonder why Felipe could’ve been fed up? Could it — just possibly — be to do with the poor management at Ferrari, who didn’t allow him to race even when his performance was nearly equal to that of his overhyped teammate to the point in the season when you chose to illegally and blatantly apply team orders?
Team orders at the mid-point of the season suck, when they’re applied despite the drivers in question being near-equal on points, on qualifying performance, *and* on the number of times each driver beat his teammate. So does Ferrari, for having so little sportsmanship as to apply them.
And I say this as somebody who was until very recently an ardent Ferrari supporter for multiple decades, and indeed was a Paddock Club guest of Ferrari at multiple race events. (Say hi to Gino R.) ;-) Not to mention the money I’ve spent on Ferrari gear, and purchases from Ferrari sponsors.
As long as the new status quo — the era where sportsmanship simply doesn’t exist at Ferrari — continues, I won’t be back.
You reap what you sow, Luca, and Felipe reaped a little for you when you broke his spirit, just as you did to Kimi Raikkonen before him. You deserve many more years of the same, until you actually allow your drivers to race each other for the majority of a season, up to the point where it is realistically impossible for one of those drivers to win the championship.
That was not the case with Felipe, last season — not even remotely close.
Signed
A truly disgusted ex-Ferrari fan who was overjoyed to see your “strategy” fail.
Spa09
15th December 2010, 13:18
I agree 110%
spudw
16th December 2010, 0:37
Knox, very well said. There is truly an absence of sportsmanship in Ferrari’s management culture, which, until it changes, will always make it satisfying to see them lose and disheartening for the sport to see them win.
Impreza_600BHP
13th January 2011, 23:03
totally agree, it was nothing but a pleasure for me the nature of the way they lost in Abu Dhabi, exactly the same uncompetative selfish mentality caused the Abu Dhabi result,Ferrari have gone from a team who are only driven by the passion of the love of racing to its very soul to a bunch of arragant corporate bigots.
bhudi
15th December 2010, 13:19
Luca gets a 10 for arrogance and a 0 for diplomacy, and he wants to go into politics?
Massa gets a 10 for diplomacy in Germany, and a perfect 10 for being a submisive no.2 driver for Ferrari for too long…
The Limit
15th December 2010, 14:52
I think these comments go along way towards explaining the current ‘mood’ within the Ferrari team. Is this really the way you treat a driver who, less than eighteen months ago, nearly died in one of your cars?
For this alone, if I were Massa, I would tell Luca to go f##k himself. Nothing in this world is worth that amount of grief!
As for the comment that ‘not even Alonso won’ referring to the lost championship, Luca neglects to mention that it was the strategic blunder made by the team that was responsible. Nor the fact that his beloved team paid Kimi Raikkonen millions of euros to not compete in F1 this season. It begs the question, if Raikkonen was so f##king useless, why pay him not to drive for a rival? This guy is a p###k.
The Limit
15th December 2010, 14:54
I apologise for my choice of words but this has really lit my fuse.
Baron
15th December 2010, 21:33
Haven’t had time to read the whole thread so apologies if this sentiment is duplicated.
Colliding with a solid object that hits you in the face at over 160 mph is something that’s going to take time to heal physically and mentally and it’s barely over a year. During that time Massa would have needed encouragement and support from the team, as his first emotion would have been that he let the team down. Ask anyone injured through no fault of their own in the line of duty. The way Massa came back from all this was exemplary, and then the Teflon Don starts sticking his oar in, and you know how much the Italians love to stir the pot and kick a man when he’s down.
Montemezolo and his gang are entirely responsible for Massa’s fall from grace, and what’s hurts me are the number of so-called fans calling him ‘rubbish’. He is too nice to be world champion because he doesn’t have the killer instinct. So what? He did his bit so leave him alone. For Ferrari to call him a ‘No.1’ driver now is not only supremely ironic, it’s also insulting because he never has been as long as FA has been in the team.
I am a lifelong Ferrari fan but not any longer. Can you imagine your boss saying this about you in circumstances like this? Go into politics Monte-whatever your name is – Berlusconi not only needs a miserable toad like you – he deserves you.
Mike
15th December 2010, 22:00
Comments here should not be debating how well or otherwise Massa performed. The issue here is what an arrogant mouthy p***k is Luca M?
He has clearly never taken any tuition in people management, which is why one journalist described Ferrari, pre- and post-Ross Brawn, as “Scuderia Shambles”.
Now he wants 3 car teams because that will be a way for super-wealthy Ferrari to dominate the constructors championship and at the same time eliminate those new teams. He hates them so much because one day they might show up his prima-donna no.1 driver.
Talk about verbal diarrhoea!
MadMalc
16th December 2010, 13:28
Hear Hear!!!
The Limit
16th December 2010, 18:13
@Baron.
Could not agree more. It is a pure miracle that Felipe Massa is even alive, let alone racing. Luca’s attitude is also counter productive because, despite all the talk, Ferrari will only reclaim the constructors championship by having both drivers scoring points. The drivers championship is an altogether different beast, but coming out in public like this about Massa can only widen any rift that exists within Ferrari.
Also by openly supporting one driver over the other, Ferrari regains its Schumacheresque persona as a ‘one man team’. No driver in their right mind is going to want to play second fiddle to Fernando Alonso, especially one of such a high calibre as Robert Kubica for example. So Ferrari need to find a balance, and by treating a man with honour and dignity as Massa has so poorly infront of the world’s press is not the answer.