“A bit of learning for everyone” in Piastri-Sainz collision – Stella

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In the round-up: McLaren team principal Andrea Stella says his driver Oscar Piastri and Carlos Sainz Jnr can both learn from the collision which ruined their races in Spa.

In brief

The stewards did not investigate the first corner collision which left Piastri and Sainz with race-ending damage. “We trust their operations, we trust their judgement,” said Stella in response to a question from RaceFans. “It doesn’t change the outcome. Carlos got his damage as well, he needed to retire, so there’s a bit of learning for everyone and we move on.

Piastri retired because the collision left him with broken steering. “There was no way to continue,” Stella confirmed.

“I briefly took a look with Oscar at the incident and it looks like, to be honest, Carlos kind of either he didn’t know that Oscar was there, or because he needed to avoid the car ahead just drove onto Oscar and there was a wall delimiting the space available, so a big shame.”

Williams’ speed vexes rivals

Williams failed to score at Spa but the straight-line speed of their FW45 drew jealous remarks from rivals. “I’m going to probably have nightmares of that Williams rear wing because these guys, it seems like a different category in the straights,” said Pierre Gasly, who put a superb pass on Alexander Albon in the middle of the lap.

Zhou Guanyu scrapped with the other Williams. “I tried to get past Sargeant,” he said. “The Williams, they’re so quick on the straight. At old Monza they would be winning.”

Pourchaire staying humble after regaining lead

Theo Pourchaire moved 12 points clear at the top of the Formula 2 championship after a double podium weekend in Belgium. Former leader Frederik Vesti failed to start the feature race after crashing on the reconnaissance lap.

But with six races left, Pourchaire is aware “we have to be consistent” to stand a chance of delivering the title. “I try to stay humble, I try to stay focused on myself, you never know what can happen,” he said.

“I need to take it race after race, push, and the championship, that’s for sure a dream. That’s my goal. But we never know what can happen. So I’m just focused on race after race and doing my best.”

Goethe and Gray get grid penalties

Oliver Goethe has been given a 10-place grid penalty for the next race he competes in, after his Trident team personnel remained on the grid after the 15-second signal before the start of yesterday’s feature race. He was initially given a 10-second stop-and-go penalty, but because that was converted to a grid drop after he retired from the race.

Oliver Gray was given a five-place grid penalty for the next race he competes in after causing a collision with Hugh Barter at Spa. The Carlin driver locked up at turn 18 and hit his rival who was trying to pass him.

Race control deemed Gray “predominantly responsible” for the collision in view of the mixed conditions. Gray was initially given a 10-second time penalty which was later converted due to him not finishing the race. Two penalty points were also been added to his licence.

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Comment of the day

Would Daniel Ricciardo be the best choice for Red Bull alongside Max Verstappen?

If there is a driver change at Red Bull, I just wish it is not back to Ricciardo. He was able to challenge Verstappen´s position within the team and for that he had to leave. I do not trust him that he would make that challenge once more. He will be glad for another opportunity and happy to pick up the pieces when Verstappen has a day off.

There is Norris, there is Leclerc, there is Russell. Each of them has showed his merit and would be eager to try to topple Verstappen. Red Bull has buffer against other teams, the regulations are stable. There will be no better time to make such change.

Mercedes has allowed that in 2014-2016, it would be popular with the viewers to have that if we have to endure years of Red Bull dominance to come.
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9 comments on ““A bit of learning for everyone” in Piastri-Sainz collision – Stella”

  1. Given how Ricciardo’s pace fell away in 2017/18 as the red bull started to develop more towards Max’s driving style i don’t see why it’s expected that he’ll be able to jump into a RBR now and match Max.

    Especially given how the car has had several years of been developed largely around Max.

    Same issue Perez is likely having, He just doesn’t like a car that works the way Max is able to get the pace out of it.

    Was it last year they basically admitted that the car balance had been shifted towards something more to Max’s liking as it developed as they felt that gave more peak performance even though it didn’t suit Sergio’s driving style or setup preferences.

  2. Michael Ward
    31st July 2023, 6:01

    F1 has to ditch this idea that you’re not “alongside” another driver unless your front wheels are alongside their front wheels.
    Sure, Carlos “had the corner” in the rules, but turning in as if Piastri wasn’t there cost him his race too.
    Lewis has done this to Max in the past, and again, in the rules that is ok, but in the race it ruins your race too.

  3. I agree with Stella in principle, as the collision was a racing incident per se.
    Nevertheless, I still put slightly more responsibility on Sainz because he didn’t need to take nearly all space away from Piastri, as Hamilton’s positioning allowed staying more on the left.

    Interesting complaining by Alonso, not to mention, how could his race engineer realistically know that Mercedes uses a K0 code term anyway?
    I’ve never heard such from either race engineer, so I don’t think they do.

    While the COTD is valid overall, I think Ricciardo could still provide enough challenge, & depending on how the remaining season goes, even Tsunoda might get a promotion unless Perez’s performance level drops again.

    1. I do not quite get the point of Alonso’s complaint. Are not drivers allowed to charge whenever they see it fit? What are the limitations then, if any? And what is K0?
      Honestly, I ask because of ignorance, not malice.

      1. Same here, I don’t understand it either.

      2. I also don’t know enough specifics to figure out what caught Alonso’s attention. I think he is wondering whether Hamilton was using a charging mode which isn’t allowed during the race. We see the red flashing light indicating that a car is charging quite often, but maybe he saw it in a place on track he wouldn’t expect, or maybe he saw it for the entire lap, which by his thinking was an illegal engine mode (since the restrictions on engine modes were brought in a few years ago).

        @jerejj The K0 thing might be Aston Martin’s equivalent of whatever engine mode Alonso is referring to, not necessarily the same code that Mercedes use.

    2. @jerejj

      how could his race engineer realistically know that Mercedes uses a K0 code term anyway?

      Well, I imagine there is quite some technical documentation coming with the PU that is passed on from PU manufacturer to customer. Lots of info therein would never reach us viewers, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. K0 is probably the internal technical term for a certain engine setting. The driver would then dial that in using one of their many knobs/dials/switches positions that each team label for themselves.

  4. The entire premise of the COTD is false. Ricciardo did not “have to leave because he could challenge Max”.
    Ricciardo has given several insights over the years as to why he left and the above is not one of those. Red Bull very much wanted to keep Ricciardo onboard – as proof of that, Ricciardo has gone on record saying their financial offer was competitive with Renault’s (even though the gospel is that he left for financial reasons – again, not the case).

  5. I feel for Felix da Costa. It was an epic drive, and for him to be given a penalty for a slow puncture (if that’s what it was) when there were other cars trying to deliberately drive into curbs in order to knock of front wings that were dangling loose, then as a spectator it does feel wrong.

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