Massa doubts victory was possible

14 comments on “Massa doubts victory was possible”

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   Glimiril (@glimiril)
   23rd November 2014, 23:42

   Another over looked aspect was that in reaction to Rosberg’s woes Mercedes were not using the full potential of the cars Power supply. Lewis even asked for the engine not to be turned up, he had more speed if needed without that. The margin, any margin was all that was needed under the circumstances.

   Good to see Massa with real twinkle in the eye again as well.
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   Ian Stephens (@ians)
   24th November 2014, 0:00

   Are the tyre strategies and pit stop times under the wrong headings?
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   PaulK (@paulk)
   24th November 2014, 1:51

   Think is, had Rosberg’s not failed, would Massa be able to overtake him?
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      Mike Dee (@mike-dee)
      24th November 2014, 10:09

      No way. HAM was turning down the engine but only so far as to stay in front of MAS.
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   PorscheF1 (@xtwl)
   24th November 2014, 10:21

   The title was over and all I was hoping for Hamilton to have a slightly bigger problem so Massa could take the win. That would’ve been brilliant.
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   Owen
   24th November 2014, 12:09

   Should Massa have stayed out on the softs til the end of the race? Clearly the tyres would be in bad shape, but he had a 15 second lead with 12 laps to go. Normally Hamilton would have been able to eat in to that and overtake easily, but factor in that his engine was turned down and he didn’t need to win the race – it’s possible he could have decided to sit behind Massa and not risk it.

   Also, by staying out, Massa was unlikely to drop any further than 2nd place anyway, due to the gap to 3rd.
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      Jerejj
      5th January 2015, 22:05

      Massa’s set of softs he took, while pitted for the first time on lap 13 wouldn’t have lasted 42 laps, so it was not worth of try to stay out on track until the end by ”must” with only 1 stop. It would have been like Kimi’s situation in the 2012 Chinese GP, when he dropped from the podium positions down to 14th because of staying out on track with the same set of tyres for too many laps, so If Massa would have tried, then he’s tyres would have died before the end and Hamilton with 18 laps fresher softs would have caught him up quickly and then Massa would have had to come to pits and could have had lost the 2nd place to Bottas, who had much fresher (22 laps newer) softs as well.
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      Solo (@solo)
      18th March 2015, 10:15

      Maybe the time difference were big enough to excuse such a risk in terms of racing tactics but i think it was also a matter of safety and finish risk. If Massa did that then maybe the tyres could have delaminated by being pushed beyond their limits.
      If that happened then Massa and Williams would have lost everything and am certain Williams was more keen on getting that nice double podium result for the end of the year that risking everything so much.
      They viewed the win as a long shot anyway.
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   Osvaldas31 (@osvaldas31)
   24th November 2014, 13:56

   Why Massa didn’t try stay on those soft tyres until the end of the race. I know it’s very risky, but he was way far ahead of third placed Bottas, so why not try?
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      dan
      24th November 2014, 17:36

      @osvaldas31

      You know i never thought of that he could have made it i think. He could still have pitted if it got too bad that he would not finish and get 2nd. Ham was closing a little bit around 3 laps before Massa pitted. Maybe Williams thought should bring him in so they have a shot to catch back up. But Ham would had to take 1 second a lap and i don’t think he would have, no way Hamilton would have tried a overtake towards the end.
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   Michael (@freelittlebirds)
   24th November 2014, 14:07

   Great race for Massa! Good to see him taking the fight to the impressive Bottas in the last 3 races. That will be a great intra-team battle to watch and these guys appear to really working together as a team more than any other constructor out there. I think what’s good for Williams is good for both drivers! Let’s hope they do as well in 2015!
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   dan
   24th November 2014, 17:46

   Lets all pump the breaks on Bottas he is not as good as some people think. He barely beat Maldando, and clearly if Massa can get podiums the car is a great car. Many times i seen people say him and Ric were best drivers of the year and that they would win the WC in the Merc that is laughable to me. What evidence is there that they can hang with Hamilton and Ros, Ric maybe but Bottas? Last 3 races he as been beaten by Massa. Alo would never of let that happen, whilst this looks a negative post how they did not in a race and Ric won 3 i will never know. No way a top driver loses the Austria race.

   Im not saying Bottas is poor but he did have a great car this year a car that Ric, Alonso and Hamilton would have been abe to win races in. Massa was alot better than Raikonnen has been but im almost sure Alonso would get 3rd in the WC in that car. Lotus in 2013 was probably a WC car i mean Gro and Kimi were making everyone but Red Bull look silly at times. To this day i believe 2013 Lotus was a WC car in Alo hands.
   1. 

      Park
      25th November 2014, 19:21

      Every time(3 times) when Merc had big troubles, RIC had track positions and better pace. Additionally, before Merc formally won WCC, I suspect Wolff would not like to see(allow) his B team to beat his A team.
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      Solo (@solo)
      18th March 2015, 10:23

      I agree that Bottas although solid he never showed to be THAT awesome. He left quite a lot slip threw his hands and made some mistakes although you can say that the guy has less experience than Riccardo and that his first year wasn’t exactly very helpful to him considering what a total dog that Williams was. It was his first try driving a decent car this year, so lets see if he can show improvement next year. Riccardo did seem quite amazing though considering his team mate was not Massa but a 4 times champion and also considering how he took advantage every chance the Mercs gave and how amazingly he overtook people in many races.

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