2017 Monaco Grand Prix championship points

26 comments on “2017 Monaco Grand Prix championship points”

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   Alex Bkk (@alex-bkk)
   28th May 2017, 14:56

   You know… I just can’t support or cheer for Ferrari anymore. Good night Scuderia.
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      PorscheF1 (@xtwl)
      28th May 2017, 15:04

      @alex-bkk Why?
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         elpatron
         28th May 2017, 15:13

         poor Kimi
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            Oletros
            28th May 2017, 15:32

            He should have been faster before the pit or ask the team not to pit him and build a gap
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               Roland
               28th May 2017, 17:31

               He could have asked the team not to time his stop so that he would be released into a line of traffic and on a slower tyre than Vettel, but there’s no way he’d have known at that point. He would also have probably assumed that Vettel would pit the following lap, as would normally be the case. Alas, it was not to be, and Vettel was given traffic-free extra laps on the quick tyre to stamp his advantage. Pretty shameless stuff from Ferrari – Raikkonen deserved that win. Given Vettel’s position, you can obviously see why they’d do it, but for all fans seeing Raikkonen back on form after his electrifying display on Saturday (and his deft management of the race up until that erroneous pitstop), it’s a great shame for Formula One.
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            BobW
            28th May 2017, 15:40

            It’s called racing for a reason. Kimi was beat fair and square. He could have questioned the pit strategy before he pitted when he did. In the absence of team orders, both drivers are racing against each other as well as the other competitors. Arrivabene could have invoked team orders in Kimi’s favor but what kind of win would that be? He couldn’t have it both ways, so the best driver won.
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            Fran
            28th May 2017, 15:46

            Grow up and face facts
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      Mikhail (@zukman)
      28th May 2017, 15:54

      They never learn. Germany 2010, USA 2012.
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         Fran
         28th May 2017, 16:03

         Have a word
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      kanan
      28th May 2017, 16:12

      How come did you no stop supporting Ferrari/Red Bull after Spain 2016 then? The same strategy was used in both Spain’16 and Monaco’17 by both teams. I guess it’s upsetting when it doesn’t favor year favorite lol.
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   elpatron
   28th May 2017, 15:14

   Stupid Button not admitting his mistake.
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      Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
      28th May 2017, 16:21

      The thing is Elpatron, these sorts of moves haven’t always resulted in accidents. Other drivers have made equally risky moves in the past and the driver getting overtaken has noticed they have a car partly alongside. Verstappen has made many of these sorts of overtakes in his career. But he’s been lucky that the drivers he overtook noticed that he came out of nowhere. I still blame Button, but I still do think Wehrlein could have quite easily gone a little wider since he noticed Button was there as he did look in his mirrors. If he did gone a little wider, the incident may not have happened.
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         Joao (@johnmilk)
         28th May 2017, 21:39

         Oh yes. My fellow driver, good sir please have my position, I’ve not been using it for while. Take it away from here
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   Damon (@damon)
   28th May 2017, 15:15

   If Vettel wins the next GP and Hamilton scores no points, he will have 50% more points than Hamilton and effectively kill the championship. I sooo hope that’s not going to happen.
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      PorscheF1 (@xtwl)
      28th May 2017, 15:21

      @damon In the past few years we’ve seen such big swings and yet people always have to be this negative about it. If anything it would be good for that championship as Vettel surely has an engine switch coming in the latter part of the season.

      I do expect Hamilton to win here, as it has always been one of his best tracks. Baku will see a new winner, and then we’re onto another strong suit for Hamilton, Hungary.

      It’s far from over I’d say.
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         Damon (@damon)
         28th May 2017, 15:44

         @xtwl No reason to be so negative about someone’s opinion.
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      kanan
      28th May 2017, 16:13

      It’s more likely to go the other way around with Ferrari unreliability, don’t worry.
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   The Skeptic
   28th May 2017, 15:31

   Mercedes (and Hamilton) desperately need a 1-2 to blunt Vettel’s momentum.
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   carbon_fibre (@carbon_fibre)
   28th May 2017, 16:20

   Crazy what Vettel has done so far. 3 wins and 3 second-places. Only 21 points lost!
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   ruliemaulana (@ruliemaulana)
   28th May 2017, 16:53

   Sainz is not in the place he should be. He was the one who clearly punch above his weight.
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      Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
      28th May 2017, 17:36

      I think Sainz is good in qualifying but he’s had mixed results this year and I still actually don’t think he’s a been a great deal better than his team mate. In the 2 races that Sainz scored well over half of his points, Kvyat had to retire through no fault of his own. He was also really unlucky in Australia as he was clearly better than Sainz during the race. So much so that the team ordered Sainz to allow him past. He then had an issue and had to box on lap 50 but even then he was only a few seconds behind Sainz.

      Sainz then had a great race in China in the end but was lucky to get away with a clumsy first corner crash if I’m honest. But after this he had a very poor race in Bahrain. Russia he was better than Kvyat but Kvyat wasn’t far off. In Spain, Kvyat admittedly had a poor qualifying but the fact that he caught right up to Sainz in the race makes me wonder about Sainz’s performance that day. This race weekend in Monaco was clearly outstanding by Sainz though. Faultless all weekend. But Kvyat was really unlucky again that he had to retire. He will have easily been P9 or P8 if not.

      My main point is that If it wasn’t for Kvyat’s bad luck this season, Sainz would have slightly less points than he does now and Kvyat would have a fair bit more. Sainz is still clearly better, but If he’s as good as people think, Kvyat must be performing pretty well this year too – just not in qualifying. Kvyat has certainly made less mistakes.
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         Yes (@come-on-kubica)
         29th May 2017, 8:28

         @thegianthogweed Did you forget about the safety car at the end of the race?
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            Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
            29th May 2017, 9:14

            @come-on-kubica

            I may be missing something here but I didn’t miss the safety car? Why are you asking this? Evev without the safety car, I am certain Kvyat will have been in the lower end of the points.
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               Yes (@come-on-kubica)
               29th May 2017, 10:21

               @thegianthogweed
               Sorry mate, for some reason unknown to me I thought you had said that Kvyat had closed the gap in Monaco and then remembered he DNF’d anyway. Too early in the morning!
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               Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
               29th May 2017, 13:39

               @come-on-kubica
               No problem. I just meant that Kvyat has most of the time closed the gap to Sainz when he’s started behind him. Here in Monaco, he couldn’t really but I’d say their performance in the race was quite similar. But Sainz was clearly better in qualifying.
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   Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed)
   28th May 2017, 17:23

   Something that surprises me is the difference between Hamilton and Bottas in the points. If Bottas didn’t retire last race, he would now have 90 points, only 14 behind Hamilton. If Hamilton has a retirement next race like Bottas had in Spain and Bottas wins, their gap in the Championship will be just 4 points and that is with them both having pretty much equal reliability over the season. If the bad luck was more on Hamilton’s side and he’d have retired in Spain instead, then Bottas would now have 93 points and Hamilton would have 79. Retirements really do chance the look of the results don’t they. This obviously didn’t happen but things could turn around later on. We just don’t know. But It is to soon to make either the number 1 driver.

   I think the performance gap between Hamilton and Bottas is way smaller than most predicted. As I said, if we ignore Bottas retirement, he certainly will have been 3rd that race giving him 15 points. A 14 point gap between them isn’t much considering Bottas is new to the team. Even in qualifying, they are now equal at 3-3 each. And out of the 3 that Bottas beat Hamilton, 2 of them, the gaps were simply massive. Larger than any of the 3 Q3s where Hamilton beat Bottas.

   For all those saying he won’t be capable of even being at Rosberg’s level, I’m not convinced at all. He is a much better team player than Rosberg was and he’s been pretty tough against Hamilton so far at times. So lets see if he keeps improving.

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