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McLaren win 2-0 against Red Bull!
Coulthard trying to stir the pot with bs questions
“It’s unfortunate”
Classic ;)
And with such a grin, too…..
Ric FLAP as well?
yes on the last ;ap apparently
So so happy for Danny Ric! He’s back! Love it! Brilliant for Mclaren
Couldn’t be happier for Mclaren honestly it’s been waaaaaay too long!!
Happy for Dani Ric too brilliant result
The coming together was poor stuff but so good to see McLaren coming back so strong :)
Norris not that happy
Not a bad day at the races for the Australians.
Well First 1-2 of a team this season
That’s nuts. I was wondering if this was the biggest points haul with the sprint plus fastest lap but never occurred to me there wasn’t even a 1-2.
Ricciardo will be getting his knuckles rapped for undoing the belts
Congrats, Dany, Lando and Macca.
Brilliant. Couldn’t be happy for the team and drivers.
Mixed thoughts on this one, but super happy for Mclaren
Awesome
GET IN THERE DANIEL!!! MCLAREN 1-2 COME ON!!!!
I genuinely thought Dany Ric would never win another F1 race.
I’m delighted for the man :)
I would have really laughed hard and long if Valtteri had won but this is actually better I think :)
He might have, had Perez abided by the rules
Nothing to worry about now really. Everyone at the front knows their finishing position
I just realised what a disaster a McLaren 1/2 would be for Ferrari at Monza…
Be a 4/5 for Ferrari at the moment. Out of context great result, in context not great!
Yeah that’s if they finish within 5 seconds of Perez. But like you said before the weekend on paper they’d take that result, but not with McLaren getting 46 points (if i calculated the sprint right)!
McLaren deserve this – they’ve made massive progress the last 5 years.
Great to see Mclaren leading and so glad they were planning for a win
Get prepared for the Shoey..
Is Perez bulljiving or what?
Hmm, Bottas as usual making mistakes when he’s close to other cars. Think he’s missed his chance now.
Russell in the points
SHUSH!
When was the last time there was VSC?
Lap 1
Dang!
Before today though, I believe it was in Sakhir last year after Aitken took his wing off, although that later became a full SC. The last full VSC in isolation (i.e. didn’t become a full SC) was I believe also at Sakhir for Latifi breaking down
Think I would’ve preferred Norris leading
All these years and Crofty still can’t tell Ascari from the pit straight
Pretty clever racing from Perez this time. Realised Bottas was probably going to overshoot and just let him do so
Toto doesn’t give a f LOL
I just read that VER said to HAM as he left the scene:
“That’s what you get for not leaving me space”.
He said that on the radio when it happened.
Must have missed that – likely jumping around :-)
Thanks for letting me know…
What he meant was “That’s what you get for not letting me through”.
Look what Perez did great driving, now teach that to Max
Good grief – Perez 5 second penalty means he is actually in 6th at the moment :O
Come on Charlos!
I know the main focus will be Hamilton vs Max, but Ricciardo winning a race in his worst season in F1 will be an incredible achievement given how much he has struggled this year. Imagine how Norris would feel as well. Beats Ricciardo basically every time, the one time he doesn’t, he finishes 2nd.
I think merc putting those mediums on during that SC could potentially be the undoing of Bottas’ bid for victory. They seem to be a bit of a temperamental tyre
Russia is a good track for Bottas too
Honestly such blatant cheating should be disallowed. Either give the place back or a black flag
Perez could now win this race for McLaren if he can delay Bottas. It means nothing to Perez but is big for RB if they can stop Merc getting more than a 3rd
Bottas podium with Perez’ penalty
If he doesnt pass him, he could drop away from his due to tyre wear.
Perez finally in a position to help RB and he ruins it all with his antics. What a disappointment
It took a lot longer for Perez Penalty.
Stroll doing well for a change …..
This Bottas is the one Mercedes needs every race
Reminds me of his early days at MERC.
Bottas just did as he was told and knew he was never going to be allowed to beat Lewis.
He can now do as he pleases pretty much
Penalty for Perez +5 seconds
PER 5 second penalty.
He would be P5 just now probably without cutting the corner so still better to illegally overtake off track apparently. Time penalty might not cost anything by the end.
Perez 5 second pen
I think there’s a case for being best weekend of Bottas’ career. Too bad he can’t do this more often, he’s been superb here.
Norris needs to man up and overtake
Just like in F2 tracklimits are a joke.
Still trying to get over Lewis and Max <\3, on another note Go Mclaren 1-2 would be a dream! Lando going full send is awesome. Amazing P4 by Bottas
Norris is much faster
What a gentlemanly radio from Norris :)
It was a bit disappointing to see Verstappen walk off without any concern for Hamilton.
Considering Hamilton was desperately trying to reverse his car out, I expect Verstappen figured out he was OK
Bruh where has this Bottas been all season?
He is freed from pressure
I guess some weight is off his shoulders – it’s human nature. He’s always been quick, but largely inconsistent, sadly. I imagine the fire is burning bright inside.
Wondering if he’s been seeing a sports psychologist all this time or not. Cause he surely could have used one. Did wonders for Grosjean.
McLaren should form a wall till the end. Don’t think they can resist PER or BOT one on one
Russia will be tasty given the long run to T1.
No penalty for perez, he cut the chicane overtaking leclerc
Spoke too soon – 5s penalty just announced
If Bottas wins this race, and passes Perez
Odds on RIC and NOR coming together?
Perez will now lose out to Bottas
BOT for the win
Surely Perez deserves a drive through
Bottas only a few seconds off the lead now!
Perez is a shocker… his overtaking and interpretation of track limits is something else.
If he only gets a 5 second penalty then he benefits overall. So penalty should be more than that.
Mclaren should call the race off. 1-2 is definitely possible now
I smell a Mclaren suffle
Perez at it again
Sigh, neither wanted to yield but I can’t see how Max thought he was going to make that corner, it was a carbon copy of the opening lap and Ham elected to go over the sausage curbs, Max decides to crash
Max does that Senna “you can let me through or we both crash” B.S.
Honestly, that chicane is chaos, the squeeze points are way too small for these cars.
1) HAM had the good sense to back out against NOR when he saw the gap closing in turn 1 .
2) VER was perfectly happy to force HAM off when he was on the outside at Roggia on lap 1.
Exactly, but it’s done now.
Are you allowed to abuse track limits if it helps you set up an overtake? I guess Norris will get away with that one since it was later in the lap he made the overtake.
heard it first: Bottas will win the race
After that in Silverstone I guess they are even now.
Think that’s fair. 60/40 on both incidents.
The McLaren are much faster than the Ferrari
That was savage from lando
NOR, what a move! That was risky.
That chicane is just not meant for 2 modern cars.
Holy heck.. My opinion of ham aside that is fkin scary. So glad it didn’t turn out worse.
Hamilton squeezed Verstappen off the track in the first place and onto the sausage kerb. No reason why Verstappen couldn’t have gone round the outside, Hamilton totally closed the door. Verstappen should’ve stopped the attempt, but Hamilton was the initial author. Racing incident mostly on Hamilton’s part that ultimately should’ve been avoided
HAM’s new approach is to squeeze VER and he is not taking it.
The 1st lap was exactly the same, VER pushing HAM.
It’s tense, but I’m glad HAM was okay (that tyre was super close!).
You will probably find a tire mark on his helmet… :/
There’s a time where you have to back out. If it’s not Hamilton, of course he backs out
Thank goodness it is 0-0 points for this race at least. Would have been unfair otherwise, like in Silverstone.
Crashtappen had option to cut corner but instead decides to stick it inside.
He had EVERY RIGHT because he was well alongside
If not for the banana kerb he would have overtook HAM
cR@sHt@pP£n
Found the word.
cR@ShT@Pp£n HaD oPtIoN tO cUt CoRnEr BuT iNsTeAd DeCiDeS tO sTiCk It InSiDe.
Sick of these comments. Okay, get in the coffin now. There. Just verbally killed you.
It’s the same thing VER did to HAM in della roggia. Just this time both collide
Exactly.
It was at the start on the chicane.
Honestly, racing aside. MAX walking away like that, what a guy… truly awful.
+1
Walking is better than partying
I agree with Rene
Honestly, racing aside, Hamfist ramming Max’s car whjle Max was right there.. truly awful
Honestly, racing aside. LEWIS trying to reverse like that while there’s a car (and driver) on top of him, what a guy… truly awful
Looking at it again, Max had no choice but to jump over the kerb because Hamilton tried to run him wide in T1 like Max did on lap 1. Racing incident for both incidents for me.
Well, we have a crazy race now. This could get even more heated between mclaren and Ferrari
Lewis did not leave a car’s width. It’s that simple.
After all this drama… I think we all like a RIC-LEC-NOR podium
Anyways the most exciting news! Danny Ric can win this, what a turnaround that would be
0 points is enough penalty
Another crap pit stop from Merc when they needed it to count
Primarily RB f’d that up
Yeah but Mercedes too, could have pitted him lap earlier (and faster too).
True, but Merc failed to capitalise with a 4.2s stop that put HAM out into traffic
VER walking off however, shows is true character.
63 starts over for HAM – that says it all.
I dunno dude. Lewis gassed it into Max’s car 2 seconds after Max got out… I think anybody could assume Hamfist was fine.
I really thinks that it’s a 50-50 situation, alittle bit more VER fault, but I don’t know why Mercedes decided to pit HAm so soon
Same here. I expected him to absolutely thrash those hard tyres to death before pitting.
I wasn’t happy with the HALO when it was introduced.
Thank goodness no one listens to me.
So Ricciardo vs Norris vs Perez vs Leclerc for the win then, should be good!
RIC / NOR can make this happen. That’s what counts now.
Side by side with Hamilton is always a bad idea
Max was alongside 100% and had all the rights to be there.
that outright arrogant of Max to walk off without even checking
Hehehe Max fans comments from silverstone coming back to bite 😀
Was there any space left for Verstappen on the inside? where will he position his car? What’s wrong in trying to overtake on the outside?
LET’S GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
That was scary
The halo saves Lewis here bigtime
Halo to the rescue.
VER penalty – carried too much speed, hit the sausage and cut across.
You mean Hamilton pushing Verstappen on the grass and giving a penalty for lady HamHam
Barry, you’re not worth my time (sorry).
Dont be sorry. He is worth a giggle though 😂
Barry is right.!
another life saved by the halo
Brundle on point, but all the Hammie fans here obviously know it so much better
Verstappen’s fault
That’s a stone wall penalty for Max
Does he not realise you can’t take the racing line EVERY TIME with a car on the outside.
Ham? I KNOW RIGHT?? Hammy tried to take the racing line while Max was literally there
Max tried to force it. That’s a clear penalty on normal circumstances, but I think stewards will give no penalty because both are out.
VER is a joke.
Hamilton, what a muppet you are
All these Hammy apologists think Max wasn’t alongsde LOL
Go Danny and Lando :)
Hamilton is such tool, jesus me
Awww bless.
HAM trying to get back on track
Senna vs. Prost
I’d say that was more Max’s fault, but Hamilton could have avoided it. Will be great to see the hypocrisy from both sets of fans after Silverstone.
Can LeClerc pit and hold the lead?
LOL, Swifty is gonna be shaking with rage!
VER still doesn’t know what space is. I hope he gets a penalty.
Skchbekrbekrhvbkhskkskske
Crashtappen
vs Ramilton
vs the cash van driver who evaded the attackers
You think you can kill drivers you don’t like with a pencil? You think you can ever kill me with a pencil? 100% no.
Killed you with a pencil.
Omg. At least not at a fast corner.
Whoops :O
BRAVO MAX BRAVO.
Silverstone II
Hamilton onto mediums now? Seems a bit early?
OMG
Lewis needs some pace here
Max won’t pass Bottas
Front wheelman, the hell was that?
Wow, RB fail, Go Lewis!
Hugeeee
Now – lets see you work those tyres to the limit Lewis!
Boom.
…really?
Nooooo
Rbr screw
Wow – crap stop!
Disaster
I want Max to plant it now but I also want Danny Ric to win!
Nightmare :O
Let’s see Max real pace
Red Bull need to pit Max now surely, otherwise Bottas will soon be in his pit window.
If Hamilton is to run long, Red Bull need Perez to be within the undercut window.
Max locked up
Ahh ok I was wondering where he lost a fair chunk of time on the live timing
Ted forgetting the rules again
Sky always forget this. All the way back in 2015 in britain when the williams were leading – coulthard mentioned that Mercedes were not allowed to do the dummy pit stop they did.
Lmao no black and white flag for Ocon
Bottas is doing an exceptional job
Riccardo trust your pit crew
One good thing to come out of the Sprint Quali yesterday is that everyone has free tyre choice, and therefore the McLarens are actually able to fight the RBs and the Mercs on the same tyres, as opposed to midfield on Q2 softs vs leaders on Q2 mediums
Does Ham switch to softs?
So on previous precedence that will be a black and white flag for Ocon. Or does that rule only apply to Ferrari’s at Monza?
Yep identical incident! Brundle said racing incident 2 years ago but today that’s a penalty?
Norris may actually be hurting himself fighting this. Leclerc could get in front off him here
Might the team have all agreed to support either driver that holds the lead?
Just blue skying here I have no idea ;)
Maybe, blocking ham could win Danny the race
Ocon doing a Leclerc!
So do RB undercut and go aggressive against McLaren, or try and overcut the McLarens while also covering off Merc a little bit?
Leclerc catching HAM and NOR
Wow that battle against Lando is amazing , heart in mouth moments
I think Verstappen will be making a move soon, he’ll want to get some clear air from Hamilton before the stops
Ricciardo is weaving on straights unnecesarily.
Bottas having a great race
Yep overtaking well
Lando needs to be careful to not run wide at Parabolica too often. He ran wide 1 lap ago.
Those papaya cars are fast on the straights
Yeah Norris was rapid on the run to the second chicane. Max did mention that McLaren were fastest through the speed trap and it seems to be showing
Unfortunately mclaren will lose out in the pit stops
Bottas busy having fun
Riccardo is comfortable
They really need the new cars, so much pressure on next year now
Hopefully a 5 second penalty doesn’t ruin the fight at the front
This is how you race, great racing Perez and Sainz!
Is the key problem here that Monza has become too quick. The teams all run such low wings, that DRS has a much lesser effect as there is wing to open? Of course slipstream has an effect but is the same effect as at a normal track, but is there a smaller difference in drag caused by DRS compared to other circuits?
Well done Perez
These cars.. DRS train
Come on RIC.
And doesn’t learn. Rookie mistake again.
So a merc and rb trying to overtake a mclaren. Will show which car is quicker
The usual suspects trying to blame Verstappen, funny stuff
Coming from you, really?
The predictable reply.
Racing incident with Max and Ham, think Ham was a little too ambitious
Max is not Vettel
Yeah racing incident. Not sure why ham went for that really, Max is not one of the old school drivers who will give him room
Dirty Max strikes again.
Ham did much dirtier not long ago. He even turned in and hit Max’s wheels in that corner lol it’s his own fault
The only one not to give space. Typical.
Says Ham as Ham spun Max not long ago. Says Ham as he drives Nico off the road at EVERY opportunity in Nico’s championship year
VER driving like HAM wasn’t there, nice to see NOR giving space (and others).
Poor Giovinazzi
Does this now mean McLaren are the currently the only team to lead laps in both of the last Italian GPs unless Merc or Gasly (somehow) gets into the lead?
Lots of debris on track
Great stat McLaren
My boy Gio being aggressive like crazy
Go Danni :)
Wow!
He better nail his start
If Ham gets off the line, it’s a masterclass. If not it’s a disaster. Make or break stuff
Daniel this is Christian, we have a seat next year……
Hard soft soft for ham probably
I have no idea what is Mercedes thinking with HAM on hards. That’s a death trap
HAM hard tyres
Interesting
Tsunoda pit lane.
Evening all. Quite looking forward to this one. You’d expect Max to run away with it, but McLaren are the only team at the front with two drivers in the game – and they’ve got nothing to lose. They’ll fancy their chances today.
4 incredibly exicitng races(f2, moto3, moto2 and motogp) already today hopefully F1 wont disappoint.
Who won in F2?
Piastri
Gasly already in trouble.
In spanish TV Marc Gené, former F1 driver and current Ferrari customers driver, has more or less confirm that Giovinazzi will be Ferrari’s third driver in 2022 and Zhou will be in Alfa Romeo.
Max, Lewis and one of McLaren in P3. In the meantime MotoGP race ahead.
Max has learnt Hamspeak
that truck is back
In all fairness, the goat is proving it’s not always true that the driver in the best car wins!
You are trying to be fair now?
Have your “Blinkers of Hatred” fallen off or something?
Why all you groupies always come up with this h4te BS, though :D
It’s reality , mate.
Me ….
A Lewis groupie ….
OH LOL LOL LOL.
You are obviously VERY new here child ;P
You are behaving like one.
Just comment on what I see.
Max able to keep pace with Bottas comfortably. Though neither had anything to gain from pushing. Bottas starts last and Verstappen first anyway.
I think it was more Max getting a tow from Bottas the entire race. I don’t think he is almost a second a lap faster on pace.
Now I wonder if Ricardo is going to take it to Max?
He’ll definitely give it a go if he gets a good launch. Probably his best chance to grab a win this season if Max has as much trouble passing as Lewis did.
Well let’s hope that is scrapped as soon as possible. Was that one overtake?! Also half hour action when qualifying is an hour
Alonso on Vettel, and Perez retook P9 from Stroll. Russell on Schumacher. That might be it outside of the first lap unless there was more missed further down the field.
Tonight the power that be at Liberty will label this as a confirmation of the 1st one: A massive success!
Also is this the first time russel gets “out qualified “?
No
This is a good enough reason for Friday qualifying to be recorded as the weekend’s qualifying results. Its a different skill, and Russell is the master of that skill, so it should be recorded as such.
Jeez, the race tomorrow needs some beers to get through…
What a snoozefest.
If this is how the race is going to be tomorrow, I better take a pillow with me
Conclusions: rb has great pace, lewis will spend the whole race trying to get past the mclarens, easy win for max
The reason of mo further action was because Perez (eventually) did give the place back… but pretty boneheaded how he didn’t immediately give it back
That one’s on you, HAM. Onto the race…
What a great outcome for Max
I don’t mind the sprint but it’s too short
Race is interesting tomorrow
Rbr whining like felines.
All this has done is ruin tomorrow, would have been a Hamilton Verstappen showdown instead we now will get a borefest. But at least F1 has made more money
Hamilton is simply not good enough to give us a proper fight.
Verstappen is on another league
You’re a joke dude, does he live rent free in your head?
The only joke around here are hammy’s groupies
Hamilton ruined his own race in all fairness
True, yeah Hamilton has made a mess of it. But as a fan, Sunday is now a bit rubbish
Classic FIA. Are the stewards asleep? What else have they got to deal with?
Penalty for perez.
Yeah, this format is all about the first few corners and then boredom.
It does have one plus side, though. It enlights how overrated some drivers are.
I assume you are talking about the Goat:)
Sup Dawg, so we herd u liek race so we put a race in yo quali so u can race before u race
For me this isn’t working. This is a first lap gamble, then a procession. In current F1 environment, strategy gets you an overtake, there is basically no time for strategy. Far prefer the build up to qualifying with the 3 practices
The entire sport is built around a 2 hour race. That’s what the cars, engines, tyres are designed to excel at. Sprint quali plays to none of the strength of F1 as it currently exists
This is what I’m starting to think as well. I’m happy that we’ve tried/experimented with it, and would be happy to see another trial next year when the new cars come in, but again only 3 or 5 races. But it doesn’t really work with the current cars.
Why isn’t Ham using drs?
Remember when sprint quali was billed as “exciting” and “frantic”?
I suspect that Lewis may use different words :) :)
Perez seems to like penalties. Not so smart racing.
What was the point of a sprint race format in cars where catching and passing is next to impossible.
The GOAT is not even able to get close to the McLarens, while his teammate is flying away
McLaren is quick here and in quicker tyres it boys happening in a sprint, dream come true for Max
Mercedes is by far the quickest car on track now.
Maybe the driver is not.
Mclaren should be asking Ricciardo to back off a little to ensure Norris has DRS. If they don’t they risk Hamilson picking them both off.
That helmet cam in a live race is amazing
It would be so Epic if Bott wins today …. and tomorrow …. etc etc for the rest of his contract :)
I know it can’t happen but still.
Nice move by Alonso.
Well, I am sure glad this race turned ojt to be a boring procession that Ham easily wins after swapping with Bottas on the first lap
Sooo predictible Toto needs to be fired!
Ham won’t beat Mclaren
McLaren are on softs.
Long way to go here
Should Norris get a penalty for gaining an advantage by leaving the track? Shwartzman got one for a similar situation in F2 Sprint 1.
I don’t think Shwatzman was on lap 1 I don’t think
It was on first lap.
But as LB said, he wasnt as fully off.
I don’t think he was fully off like shwartzman earlier, had 2 wheels in
Now why there is no red flag, if they red flagged it for 1 lap at Baku?
Now they want to complete most of the distance under SC?
Because there were 4 laps left in Baku, there are still about 16 here
what a GOAT style start for sir lewis!
You know what they say about sarcasm don’t you ;P
Not sarcastic at all.
Just laughing at all the fanfare about Hamilton’s status.
With a vast superior car, he is going to lose again.
Shouldn’t a red flag be ideal considering it is a sprint?
Give Hamilton that he avoided damage well
Tsunoda what an overrated driver.
I kind of bought into the hype for the first race but have lost interest in the guy ever since :/
… and sadly people don’t even rate him much anymore…
Gasly should’ve slowed down with those sparks
Apparently from inside the cockpit you can’t really see the sparks if the front wing has a problem
Deserves nothing … poor
Flippin heck Lewis – better not give George this kind of help next year!
What a poor start Hamilton
McLaren on softs
Aggressive from McLaren, very interesting. Not what Red Bull wanted to see…
sprint race, aka ‘drive around in formation for 20-25 mins and take zero risks’ . hope to be proven wrong!
Hi all,
Should be mostly processional today I think
Ferrari say all is well with their drivers ahead of sprint qualifying.
I’d be surprised if Sainz’s car isn’t repaired in time for the sprint qualifying race after that.
Ouch that’s a big hit. Glad Saint is okay. That car won’t be taking part later
Enough time for Sprint. 3h30min from practice end.
I find it a little frustrating that sky are still talking about tyres on a sprint race, whether someone can nurse some soft tyres. Surely a sprint should be full attack
Sainz off.
Hello all and welcome to this unusual second practice session where the teams can’t do much with their cars besides a few long runs. Can’t help but think many way want to stay in the pits and preserve race engine mileage.
RIC looking pretty good lately
NOR / RIC looking to hunt down VER tomorrow!
Norris will jump Max in sprint race
That Mercedes power unit is still in a class of it’s own
TBH, I’m not sure HAM was close enough, stellar lap by BOT.
Bottas’ engineer sounded so enthusiastic
BOT showing why he’s not a Perez :-D
Not a fair comparison
Perez was slow even when behind someone.
Bottas without a tow!! What a lap
Bottas was super quick
Surely VER is too close?
Looks slow
Norris is following Mercs
Perez sacrificed for a tow!
Remind me again..is this counted as pole position or not?
No.
Shame
Still fancy Norris to get on the front row
Is it just me or is the on-track sound mixed super low?
I’m confident enough to say, if VER even got pole through a tow, HAM / BOT / NOR will overtake him during the race.
Bot may be difficult from the back of the grid
Perez lmao. What a waste of a seat he’s becoming
VER got a tow, I think he’ll get overtaken in the race tbh.
Lewis was without a significant tow
And people talk about RB sandbagging :-)
Well done Max
Bottas with brown pants there
That redbull car looks pretty slow hete
Oo Bottas came out right in front of Lewis in the pits
Come on Norris. Perez is a lucky boy
So, Bottas stands to gain nothing tomorrow except possibly a point or two.
Giovinazzi in Q3 again, second week a row. Not bad in what is possibly 2nd worst car on the grid this year.
Shame for Bottas, looked like a Merc 1-2 this weekend
+1
The penalty is for the Qualy Race of for Sunday race?
Sunday I believe
Sunday.
Perez lucky, just scraped in.
Might be Lando and Ham on the front row
Is that the first time the helmet cam has been used in a competitive session?
No, Di Resta had one in 2012 Monaco GP.
Ah, I remember now! Well done
Perez – chuckle chuckle. I’d easily put my bets on BOT showing him up.
So if Bottas is going to start from the back, this could give us a chance to see if that Merc (and driver tbf) works any better in traffic than it did last year. Seems like a shame for Merc though; one of their best performances of the year comparative to RB and one car has to start last.
Just in case he is tempted to overtake HAM at the start
A very naive comment. Are you new to F1?
While I don’t agree directly with Christian’s comment, I don’t think the premise is invalid. Just look at the FLAP shenanigans at Zandvoort, or the team orders in Spain. Or go back to Sochi 2018. All the teams do this, Merc is no exception.
Ridiculous
Very dangerous, the Alpine guy was lucky
Here we go again
So, Bottas stands to gain nothing tomorrow except possibly a point or two.
Traffic jam
Qualy on friday doesn’t look right
Good old days…
Someone go on track.
Crofty babbling about Bond now
Is McLaren high or low rake
Pretty high I believe.
It’s really just Merc & Astons who run low.
Middle to low
New power unit for Bottas – he starts at the back.
Oh no
Mclaren are super quick
7/8 tenths, lmao. RB are absolutely finished here
Get in there. Come on HAM / BOT.
The Mercedes look untouchable. Looks like an inevitable weekend.
Bulls out early
Lucky rabbit!
Amazing Gasly didn’t hit anyone honestly
Was the rabbit some kind of prototype qualifying out lap pace setting safety car replacement?
A close call with that rabbit.
Another shocker from Tsunoda! I was surprised he got out of Q1 frankly
Lol, nice Russell
Come on Noris!
maybe have minimum sector times the drivers have to do on outlaps. i think they just have one for the whole outlap at present. but it’s the last sector they always slow down to a snails pace.
Rabbit.
I meant to type maximum.
LOL! How did maximum become rabbit?
Page uploading slowly.
It’s really getting to the point we need to have multiple smaller quali groups, although I still don’t think that would cure the issue at certain tracks like Monza
That Gasly onboard LOL. This is just plain dangerous
What a mess again with traffic
How can everyone be so lost, LOL? Accidents will happen at this rate.
Well, it’s certainly a challenge getting a lap in!
Ricardo is improving
Monza quali really is F1’s shame
Oh dear, this will be annoying
The traffic jams are starting already
Max making a mistake.
Max needs to go again
It’s HAMMER TIME.
Norris is really qui
Shows the benefit of the tow
Verstappen out curiously early
Happy Friday all, should be a formality for the benz
There’s no Benz in the name anymore
In South Africa it is difficult to find a free channel to watch GP’s
I nearly forgot there was qualifying today. Remembered just in time!
I think espn has it listed as fp2 so some people may miss it and be a bit cross.
F2 qualifying is hiliarious. They’re all cruising around trying to find a tow, someone tried to go through the pits to let cars past and got pulled into the weigh bridge. Then whilst the rest were messing about, he did a quick out lap, warmed his tyres and did a faster 2nd run than everyone else… Shows the tow isn’t as important as conditioning your tyres correctly.
Hello everyone and welcome to RaceFans Live for qualifying for the 2021 Italian Grand Prix.
Before we get stuck in, remember your predictions are due before the scheduled starting time of qualifying in 43 minutes so enter here now: https://www.racefans.net/predictions/
1:19.800/HAM, top 5: HAM-VER-PER-BOT-STR, something slightly different for a change.
We’ll see how qualifying goes but it looks very much like a 2020 race so far. Hamilton easily fastest, Verstappen and Bottas battling for 2nd and the 2nd Red Bull driver nowhere.
Even after last years farce there seem to be no lights installed on pit entry.
Light panels have been in place for a long time.
Medium tyre seems to be working great.
Mercedes always tend to look better on the harder compounds. The problem for them is they’re only allowed to use softs in qualifying.
That’s a strange rule… I can’t see why it’s in place. If someone want to use a different tyre, why stop them?
A bit more just now from McLaren’s Andreas Seidl, who was asked about F1’s survey question indicating they are considering the introduction of success ballast:
https://www.racefans.net/2021/09/10/f1s-success-ballast-suggestion-gets-short-shrift-from-mclarens-seidl/
Helmet cam is back.
Track limits are back.
Tsunoda needs to get his head checked.
This is the only practice session before qualifying later this afternoon. As McLaren team principal Andreas Seidl pointed out, that makes it extremely important.
“Our approach as a team to this weekend is not much different to Silverstone. We put in obviously before Silverstone a lot of energy inside the team in order to be ready for the race in Silverstone. And I have to say on the operational side it actually went quite well for us it is more a matter of making sure now that we hopefully repeat on the operational side a trouble-free weekend again.
“It is clear that with only having one practice session before you have to put the car in parc ferme and race it that even more than normal you try obviously to be as prepared as possible but at the same time with the limited free practice time you already have this year also for standard race weekends that’s always a go. So it’s just important again as a team to go through all the sporting regulations again with everyone make sure that when changing or jumping from one race weekend format from another you don’t suddenly end up missing something which is not allowed in parc ferme and so on.”
Hello everyone and welcome to RaceFans Live for the first practice session for the 2021 Italian Grand Prix at Monza.
Jos Verstappen should have been the one who waved the chequered flag
Apparently, not mentioned on this site, HAM pitted and reclaimed the FLAP from BOT.
So, feared a bit it might be a boring train on a beatiful track, but that felt pretty tense and interesting, even though Verstappen’s win wasn’t all that much under threat.
So India and Zandvoort only 2 circuits Hamilton hasn’t won he’s raced on?
Nope, South Korea and Magny-Cours too.
Ham won on this track in a diff formula
2005 f3 masters. I was there
Bottas’ disobedience was unsurprising.
A little too late
The yeah I slowed, but still getting flap and spanners in works was a bit passive aggressive for me, I mean LOL/sob. Well, a week and it will be official I suppose.
But what we do know now – Russel has signed Mercedes already.
Expect Mercs to be strong at Monza
Feeling sorry for anyone with asthma in that crowd
Bah, their suffering is nothing compared with the symptoms of “boo” allergy.
Its crazy
We’ll done Max, very comfortable drive
Red Bull should stop Perez for fastest lap. Points do not matter in this situation.
If Hamilton has softs, I really don’t think that would be doable, and he loses a point too.
If anyone can do it , Ham can
Shouldn’t Checo have new soft as well?
Yeah but he has a point to lose.
LOL. Russell in the seat next week!
LOL
Top work Val.
Give em the finger.
You think Perez would be treated any differently? (If he was in that position anyway)
Come on Mercedes, which driver do you want to have that fastest lap point?
Merc circus, the icing will be an incident
Okay.. Valterri…. Mercedes messing up..
Bottas getting screwed left, right and from the back and repays Mercedes
Big F you to Mercedes and rightfully so!
Bottas is the man!
How low can you go
Haha
Lol Bottas
“Vibrations”
Mercedes deliberately slow stop for BOT to protect HAM?!
Bottas emasculated again
Oh jeez?
Only top3 on lead lap.
HAM to pit in this lap to have last lap for FLAP
I think that was more Perez turning into Norris than Norris not leaving any room tbh. Racing incident imo
Yeah, steal the flap from your team mate?
No, probably to create a gap for Hamilton to pit in and get FLAP
Austria all over again
Hmm that was really edgy Perez and Norris
Norris dirty
Debris at turn 1
You only had one job Tv director!!!
Reverse of Hungary: Now ALO can’t get past!
Verstappen is actually funny
Verstappen roasting Hamilton on and off the track!
“is he complaining about something or what”
Top chat from Max :)
Even Max knows, lol.
Still no red flags: Dieter is going to lose those bets! :D
I know they are different cars, but hard tyres done after 18 laps is just the most stupid thing I have seen in a while. How about Mediums?
Bonno – my tyres have been abducted by Aliens and I need an Avocado Latte to wipe on my buttocks before I can rise again!
Hamilton’s tyres have 9 lives apparently, they’re dead again
I can’t believe there’s been no safety car
The dreaded tyre performance graphic! Where is this information coming from? It’s almost funny how wrong it is
random number generator. aka AWS
after whining about Ham whining about his tire, we are back in whining about tire graphics mode :)
Those Max tyre stats are way wrong
10% tyre performance in right left hahahaahaha. Those gauys in AWS are hilarious
Merc should have stopped
Those horrible Aws tyre graphics are back.
Da faq? 18 laps Hard tyres already done?
Accordign to AWS yeah. Which means as much as if my dustbin would be able to talk
And the mediums? LOL
-40%, meaning only Hamilton will be able to drive on them as he is a demi-god.
/s
Great reverse psychology from Mercedes telling Lewis to to slow down, the pace suddenly came
This circuit is practically built for the Rbr
BONO MY ENGINE IS DEAD!
Plot twist: VER is told to slow down to give HAM false hope.
Nice Checo
Hamilton is gonna have an aneurysm at this rate
Still I Rise (to Jesus)
He’s not gonna give up guys… Just give us something to keep awake Lewis
Lap has really come Donna!
LOL ‘killing my tyres; Copy’ … yeah, just go for it, he can still go for that 3-stopper w/o losing anything right?
He might come out behind bottas… so yea he wouldn’t be losing a thing
They’re so fast! Even though I set the fastest lap and I’m gaining on Verstappen!
Can we have the feature to send pictures here… we need Bono my tyres are gone memes
bUt BoNnO I woNt MaKe It On tHesE TyReS
I wonder if Lewis wakes up screaming in the night about his tyres?
:)
I mean, if anyone wasn’t ure as to why Lewis was getting boo’d, I guess they have a clear answer now. No one is complaining falsely as much as Hamilton
I do not see it as false – I think he does it on purpose to sow confusion and his team know what he means.
LOL. I thought the tyres were dead Lewis!
Spoilers: Hamilton will get to the end on these tyres
he he. Perez would make these tyres last 2 GPs
I really don’t think so but hope I’m wrong.
What are the chances Merc go for a 3 stopper?
They can but it’s pointless Max can stay out manage hards and win
Now the win is gone, Hamilton is back to tyre complaining mode
Lewis can complain when he is winning!
I love it ;)
HAM is like an unbearable girlfriend, always whinning
Imagine Lewis in a Ferrari then.
What happened to Bottas?
Bottas. And then he got a strategy (bc. behind them there’s a cavernous void) to maybe hopefully slightly slow Verstappen, and is plodding along as before (oh, and ~2s from VET spinning ahead of him that he neededto avoid into T3)
he’s on much older tyres than the two ahead
Is 3 stop even in the game here? Mercedes lost this
It’s over , Max is too quick
The track is too short for that imo, you’d need to repass all the traffic again
Yuki for FLAP in the end
Really surprised there’s been no stoppages thus far
That’s what happens when the track is self-policing, drivers don’t become hotheaded because there’s actual consequences
Mercedes being silly here?
This is so tense.
I don’t trust the hard tyres.
If Perez didn’t destroy his hard tyres, the would have more info
I doubt Hamilton will have the pace advantage over Verstappen to overtake
Agreed
Odd choice of using hards when they arent working for anyone.
They don’t have any mediums
VER has no new mediums
Another awful job by Mercedes pit
Let’s see what Max does
Game over
HAM in traffic
This poor Mercs
Mercs I don’t get your logic in pitting Hamilton into traffic
Here we go!
Nice try from Merc?
CALL MAX IN
Undercut
Mercs in
The rear was gone before he even steered in, crazy
Mezzo sBinalla
Good reaction Bottas
Bottas the roadblock
Bottas on Meds?
Bottas does Bottas.
Made a shed load more money than me but I wouldn’t be able to take the humiliation to be honest
Lap 35 and they have lapped up to P9. Could they lap the whole field bar the top 3?
I’m surprised that’s only 5 seconds, I’m sure the penalties used to be much harsher for speeding in the pitlane
Yh but it’s quite a rare offence during the race, so it’s possible that very few have been handed out since 5 second penalties came into existence quite recently (2014? ish?)
The last penalty for speeding in the pit lane was for Giovinazzi in Hungary: 10 seconds stop and go.
It has to be said that Giovinazzi exceeded the speed limit by over 25 kph (!)
Still, in the very same race, around the same time, Räikkönen got 10 seconds without stop and go for an unsafe release that consisted in crashing another blameless competitor (Mazepin) out, among a lot of people in the pit lane.
So yeah, there’s still a fair bit of inconsistency.
Both Ferraris on hards
There is whining Hamilton, Mercedes sacrificed Bottas for Hamilton and easy pass yet Max is lucky with traffic.
Apparently held up by Alonso…
Gotta feel for Bottas
I agree, I think this is poised for a Spain/France scenario. 1 stop vs 2 stop. Red Bull should take the initiative.
Someone was saying Redbull favours Max.
Lol as always the adrenaline kicks in
I think should Lewis should sit behind and then just do a Hungary or Spain. Red Bull have to see this coming
Unless RB do a France and see it coming before Merc
And look at the gap, Max way too quick
Lewis got traffic but yes – Max has the win in his eyes ;)
Meanwhile Perez is 11th
He must be the only one that thinks that he still has a chance at the second Mercedes seat
He’s been stuck behind Norris for ages as well.
Woof Woof Bottas. You do know you’ve lost your spot already right?
LOL – top stuff Maxy :)
Max will get him on the pit straight
stopped for new nose on lap 2
How did MSC end up so far behind everyone else?
Bottas defend dear lord?!?
It’s moments like these that verstappen needs a teammate… it’s 2 vs 1
Is it 2 stop confirmed?
Alsonso has opened 6 sec gap on Ocon. And ocon was complaining Alonso was slower.
HAM really close
Mercs were strong on Mediums
Mercs have extra new mediums available while rbr doesnt have any new mediums left.
Undercut seems quite powerful; even with 1 second slower stop, Lewis gained 1.5 seconds
I thought so really. But not like Bahrain or in France this year
As usual Verstappen is fighting 2 cars instead of 1 thanks to Perez
I really, genuinely, honestly can not get my head around why no one else can drive that car like Max does.
Red bull have always favoured one driver. I wonder if that’s still the issue.
I get a sneaky feeling that Red Bull are starting to think they are the boss now.
Race is gonna start getting interesting now
You can notice the slight delay in stops
Hamilton pushing hard
A normal stop there would have out more pressure on Red Bull.
Ok what will happen now
Merc still can’t seem to get a good pit stop in?
Max in
Slow stop Mercs. But what now….
medium? 2 stopper
Hmm, what will they do with Bottas
Please Yuki, have a crash, inject some fun into this race
Perez muscling past the indomitable Mazepin. For 17th. Really earning that contract!
Bahahahahahahaha!!!!
Hm feels like undercut could be powerful
1 stop isn’t gonna win him the race..might as well go for 2
It’s a short track, but with the pace, it looks like new tyres could have a huge delta
I doubt he can beat Max today
Anyone noticed the kerbs are orange and white not red and white
I thought it where my glasses
Yup
Yeah it’s something I quite like tbh. Circuits having their countries colours as their kerb colour. It’s the same at Imola (Red, White, and Green), I think Monza, and a few other circuits on the calendar
End of the kerbs are the Netherlands flag too
Surprised nobody has crashed yet honestly
I was expecting more near misses and stuff as well.
Though Alonso’s start had two near-misses that could very well ended up in carnage.
Latifi actually overtakes Mazepin!!!
On track!!!!!
HAM 2 stops?
Dunno if it will make a difference, if he 2 stops Bottas will probably go long
There’s a train behind Alonso now
Right, so was that Perez being dropped to attempt and hamper HAM, or just coincidence?
That turn 3 banking is really impressive to watch.
It’s amazing, we need more bankings in F1
This is gonna be one hell of a procession
Perez making an unholy mess of his race as usual
They ight as well call him in, change his engine AGAIN and have 2 extra in the pool from now on.
I know it’s not allowed, but heck, it’s not like he’s going to get points anyway
Perez has ruined tyres already.
I like Ocon’s bravery there
I wonder if they’re talking about doing a CTRL+ALT+DEL reset on Ricciardo’s car if it is similar to whatever he had in Austria or Styria where he seemed to lose 4 seconds in like 2 laps and was then back up to speed.
LOL – Lewis worried about his tyres :) :) :)
Ocon and alonso using different lines in turn 3.
Well, settle in for the F1 parade for the next 68 laps.
Alonso was crazy.
Mazepin never learns
Hardcore first lap battles
Mazepin is crazy
Didn’t michael do the same to barrichello ;)
And that makes it okay? He was penalised for that, and one of the Stewards even wanted to ban him.
Also, I don’t like that narrative that’s creeping in, that because Mick is Michael Schumacher’s son, he deserves some kind of karmic payback for his father’s perceived sins.
Are you high on someone or something?
Just calling out your bs
My boi Mazepin really mad at Mick
This track is insanely fast
Race over guys
Go Ham!
What a move by mazepin
I am not liking the smoke on the main straight. Hopefully it is not too much for the drivers
I have read that it doesn’t bother them but it would freak me out a bit at these speeds I think.
Yes there was orange smoke so close to the barriers
Phew, Max is gone
Max pointing his car… oh god
BANZAI!
Perez on hard compound
Verstappen going way too fast on the formation lap