Was Perez right that even a reliable Red Bull wouldn’t have beaten Ferrari?

20 comments on “Was Perez right that even a reliable Red Bull wouldn’t have beaten Ferrari?”

1. 

   Jere (@jerejj)
   25th March 2024, 17:08

   I still disagree with Checo’s view that Max wouldn’t have won even if he had an entirely issue-free race.
   Ultimately, not a 2023 Singapore GP situation.
   1. 

      Xavi
      26th March 2024, 3:27

      Absolutely, not same race / track situation. And Max is a beast! even with a hampering car he would have had a chance to win. Not sure if he would’ve pulled off but at least it would had been a very close top 3 (considering how close was Ferrari from Pole)
      I also think Checo said what he said without knowing his car was damaged, probably estimating Max’s car would’ve had similar performance deg problem (loss of downforce)
      1. 

         Jungle
         27th March 2024, 10:37

         He was driving with a seized brake on his rear wheel whatever lap it happened or escalated maybe from the start. Perez’s comments are irrelevant…..
2. 

   notagrumpyfan
   25th March 2024, 17:58

   Best of the Rest Championship*:
   1) Haas 100 (HUL 51, MAG 49)
   2) RB 78 (TSU 47, RIC 31)
   3) Williams 50′ (ALB 40, SAR 10′)
   4) Sauber 46 (ZHO 32, BOT 14)
   5) Alpine 32 (OCO 20, GAS 12)

   * regular points structure for bottom 5 teams, incl. FLAP
   ‘ Williams (one car) and Sargeant have one less race entry.
   1. 

      Alonso (@alonshow)
      25th March 2024, 19:25

      Very nice, keep it coming.
3. 

   Nulla Pax (@nullapax)
   25th March 2024, 18:22

   The car suits Max far far better than it suits Checo.
   I’m confident that without the brake problem then Max could have turned in a winning drive.

   The car is that good, and Max is that good.
   1. 

      AlanD
      25th March 2024, 19:48

      Nulla, you may be correct that the car suits Max more, but I think that’s something generally true of fast cars and fast drivers. i.e. a car which is “gentle” to drive will suit both team mates equally, but a car which is pointy in the corners, and generally faster because it is more on a knife edge, is the sort of car that looks great in the hands of the Verstappens and Hamiltons of his world.
4. 

   Christopher Rehn (@chrischrill)
   25th March 2024, 19:38

   I think Max would have won this round too, but it would certainly have been the closest one yet. I think Max will run away with this championship just like 2023, but I think Ferrari will be closer to him than anyone was last year.
   1. 

      Mayrton
      26th March 2024, 9:26

      Agreed. Melbourne is very particular track and not representative at all for the rest of the season.
5. 

   Sonny Crockett (@sonnycrockett)
   25th March 2024, 19:41

   Was Perez right that even a reliable Red Bull wouldn’t have beaten Ferrari?

   No. He’s a bang average driver who makes excuses despite having a ‘rocket ship’ of a car.
   1. 

      AlanD
      25th March 2024, 20:02

      I think the thing that surprised me the most after this last race is that despite Red Bull being a rocket ship taking maximum points in the first two races, and despite Ferrari having had a stand in driver who had no F1 experience for one of the three races, Ferrari is still only four points behind Red Bull in the constructors championship.
      1. 

         Osnola
         25th March 2024, 21:48

         With max they would have scored 25 points and while Sainz missed a race Bearman still scored.
         With a win by max the point deduction for second and third would have been 7 points.
         So RBR +25
         Ferrari- 7
         (Fastest lap not deducted)
         But its all ” what if”.
      2. 

         Mooa42
         26th March 2024, 1:55

         If Sainz had let Leclerc past for the win, (or Leclerc had of been faster) then Leclerc would have been leading the drivers championship.
6. 

   DaveW (@dmw)
   26th March 2024, 1:33

   I doubt a tear off cost him half a second to the Ferraris. Maybe he had a bollard trapped under the car instead.
   1. 

      Xavi
      26th March 2024, 3:14

      I agree, I think even Marko said floor damaged happened when hitting the kerbs at one point.

      But…. I will have to re-watch the race because I do remember seeing a tear off (or perhaps just leaves) getting sucked under a RBR car behind an Aston M car. I just don’t know how a stucked tear off can cause such performance degradation
   2. 

      sumedh
      26th March 2024, 7:49

      Checo’s pace does drop off quite a bit after overtaking Alonso in the graph. His last stint is also showing higher wear.
7. 

   sumedh
   26th March 2024, 7:47

   Noticed something interesting. Charles’ 2nd pit stop on Lap 34 was an excellent execution from Ferrari. His gap to Lando was decreasing consistently and he was at risk of being undercut or overtaken on track. Ferrari couldn’t have pitted on Lap 33 as Charles would have exited behind the battling Perez and Alonso and lost time (allowing Lando to perhaps overcut him). Ferrari couldn’t have waited till Lap 35 as Lando would have got DRS and perhaps overtaken Charles on track or

   The only chance was Lap 34 as that was when Charles could come out ahead of Perez and Alonso and Norris couldn’t. And that pitstop had to be really perfect too (sub 2.2s). And Ferrari actually managed it. Quite an improvement from 2022-2023 in terms of strategic nous.
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   Mayrton
   26th March 2024, 9:23

   In his hands: yes.
9. 

   Pjotr (@pietkoster)
   27th March 2024, 19:21

   This season were two races where Verstappen finished the race. He won. One DNF and Ferrari thinks they have a chance to win, Ok lets wait and see.
10. 

    Rhys Lloyd (@justrhysism)
    4th April 2024, 2:36

    Tear offs should be kept in the car like they used to be. Too often are races affected by a tear off stuck in aero/brake ducts/wherever.

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