If F1 ever needed to go somewhere and put on a show, it is now.
The dazzling spectacle Singapore introduced to the calendar last year has been forever tarnished by Renault’s cheating and yesterday’s all-talk-and-no-trousers reaction from the FIA.
On its return this weekend we need an event that shows off the very best of Formula 1.
Changes to the track
Before the crash that now defines last year’s race, it was a rather processional affair. Drivers found the stop-start circuit difficult to overtake on, and although changes are being made to the circuit this year they aren’t likely to improve matters. However this should mean we’ll get an exciting qualifying session.
The first corner, which Fernando Alonso infamously cut on the first lap of last year’s race, will have new kerbs, as will turn five.
The infamous turn ten chicane is being tightened, which should serve to make the already long lap even slower.
And the bumps between turns five and seven are being eased – that’s bad news for those of us who enjoy the spectacle of F1 cars throwing up showers of sparks, but a relief for the drivers. Good news for all concerned is the intended re-configuration of the problematic pit lane entrance and exits.
The race – and the championship
The championship arrives at Singapore with Rubens Barrichello bearing down on team mate Jenson Button. But although the duo scored an impressive one-two at Monza, where they might be in the pecking order at Singapore is anybody’s guess.
Much of it will come down to the strength of their opposition. Closest title rivals Red Bull did not do especially well on either of the other high-downforce tracks on the calendar, Monte-Carlo and the Hungaroring.
McLaren, on the other hand, should be strong. KERS will be far less of a benefit here than it was at recent tracks, but its usefulness at the start and for overtaking cannot be underestimated. Only the Woking team and Ferrari will use it this weekend, with Renault unlikely to bring it back until Interlagos.
Whether the turn of speed Force India demonstrated at high-speed tracks Spa and Monza will also be evident at Singapore could influence how well the Brawn pair score.
Toyota, meanwhile, have had massive swings in performance. Monaco and Hungary were particularly poor races for them, so this weekend looks like being a fourth consecutive race without any points.
It’s unfortunate to say it in the context of what happened last year, but with the close proximity of barriers and the ever-present threat of a safety car intervention, Singapore could throw up a surprise result.
This is what we need this weekend – no more politics, no more scandal, just a clean race and a worthy winner.
Drivers to watch
Fernando Alonso – More for what he might do off the track rather than on it. What will he say about how he won last year’s race?
Jenson Button – He can damage-limit his way to the title by hanging on to Barrichello’s gearbox. But if he parries his team mate’s advances here he will have one hand on the trophy.
Kimi Raikkonen – Can he keep his string of podiums going?
Nico Rosberg – had been scoring consistently until his disastrous race at Monza. But still has a chance of holding off Lewis Hamilton for sixth in the drivers’ championship.
Renault Singapore crash controversy
- Mosley says Renault got the ‘harshest penalty’ but hardly anyone agrees
- Nelson Piquet Jnr wants F1 return
- Renault escape ban for crash (Poll)
- Renault face Singapore hearing today
- Singapore Grand Prix organiser says: "There’s no such thing as bad publicity"
- No punishment for Briatore or Symonds?
- Did more foul play by Renault scupper Schumacher in the 2006 title decider?
- Fernando Alonso should renounce his Singapore Grand Prix ‘win’
- Briatore and Symonds step down as Renault accepts Singapore crash charge
- Piquet-Renault scandal: more new evidence and complaints about leaks
- Statement by Nelson Piquet Jnr on his Singapore crash leaked online
- Did Piquet crash on purpose? (Poll)
- Renault face Singapore crash hearing
- Nelson Piquet Jnr and Fernando Alonso in renault Singapore claim
- Piquet’s scathing attack on Briatore
- Nelson Piquet Jnr dropped by Renault
- Alonso and the Piquet-Renault fall-out
- 2008 Singapore Grand Prix analysis
- Fernando Alonso’s bad luck turns good for win (2008 Singapore Grand Prix)
steph90
22nd September 2009, 14:34
Might not happen Keith
I hope this is the end, even though the verdict was not as some hoped. You’d almost forget racing actually happened.
ajokay
22nd September 2009, 14:56
I was thinking that. Flav may be banned from anything FIA related, but now there really is nothing blocking him from his ultimate dream of a GP1 series.
Now that would be interesting.
Martin
22nd September 2009, 15:20
I posted this in another area but it ties here so I copied it over.
I have been thinking about the results of this verdict and it has repercussions in a different direction. Not only has max and bernie destroyed ron and flavio in the last year, but now they have cut the feet out from under fota, especially by banning flavio. One of fota tennants was they could use the fia’s officials to hlp run their series. Well not now be cause they have stated that they will no longer have any dealing with flavio in any way shape or form.So they have removed flavio from being involved essentially in fota.
So now flavio cannot represent drivers who want a superliscence, he cannot be involved with anyteam or liscenceholder that wants to remain in the f1 fraternity and by this last move he cant be involved in fota or the promotions of the series if it was to break away if they want fia assistance. This would mean that fota would have to come up with that infrastructure.
As much as dislike what max and bernie have done to my beloved f1, this was a brilliant move. They have had a full year to plan and execute this and they used flavio emotions to put the scene in motion. Bernie new flavio was a hothead and coorced him into firing npj because he new what would happen next as they had known about it since last year at Brazil.
The hamilton expulsion and getting ron out of the way was sheer luck earlier this year.
This is brilliant, pure brilliance..nobody saw this coming until it was too late. I tip my hat to them, they played all of us.
All of us underestimated these 2.
SamS
22nd September 2009, 15:40
Yes but the teams in F1 wont be available to join as they have all just signed the concord agreement! Flav should give up, he is being investigate by the FA too with regard to his links to QPR!
dsob
22nd September 2009, 15:35
Spanish motor racing chief Carlos Gracia told the AS newspaper that he believes the 59-year-old
Utter nonsense. FiA did NOT ban Flavio Briatore. Briatore had already left the employment of Renault Team F1 at the time of the WMSC hearing. Neither WMSC nor FiA has any jurisdiction nor holds any purvue over private individuals. This is clear in the FiA Statutes. By their own rules, FiA could not, and did not, ban Briatore.
FiA merely suggested that racing series or drivers that continue to associate with Briatore might find it difficult to get sanctioning or superlicences.
As far as I know, there is no legal precedent here upon which Briatore might base his case in civil court. Perhaps he may wish to lodge the civil complaint anyway, and see if he is able to set a precedent.
I should think that might be quite entertaining.
Tim
22nd September 2009, 16:38
Briatore could take his case to a civil court and argue that the FIA’s actions are tantamount to a ban. Ultimately, it has a similar effect and barring Flavio from any form of involvement in motorsport certainly appears to have been the FIA’s intention.
The FIA has effectively blacklisted Briatore and prevented him from any future involvement in motorsport – he can’t look for alternative employment with another F1 team, his driver management business is at risk and his involvement in GP2 may also have to end. I’m not a lawyer, but preventing someone from earning their living (even if that is only part of their living) is a serious action to take without very good grounds and a robust process.
Flavio could presumably argue that the FIA has acted unreasonably by applying such a stern penalty and also acted unfairly by not allowing him due process, i.e. the opportunity to make representations or having any route of appeal.
Whether any court would accept those arguments is another matter, but it isn’t impossible.
mp4-19b
22nd September 2009, 17:18
I’ve got some technical stuff to refresh all our brains ;)
My Analysis of Singapore using Motec i2 pro(Mainly braking)
Singapore has no shortage of light to medium braking points, this should heavily aid the kers equipped mclaren, ferrari & possibly renault. So Kers can pretty much be deployed anywhere, as recharging won’t be a problem. Where the drivers actually use it will be interesting to watch. I suspect drivers will be using kers more for gain in acceleration than top speed.
I’ve used various parameters in my analysis
1) A map of the circuit with a small dot indicating the position of the car. (note the darker colour in the braking zones)
2) Brake pedal position
3) Throttle position(green)
4)Then there is a numeric bar gauge displaying longitudinal & lateral g-forces
5) Then there is a red colour graph of brake-pedal position(in %) vs time(in sec)
6) Then there is a green colour graph of throttle pedal position (in%) vs time(in sec)
7) One more graph depicts brake temperature vs time
8)There are 3 gauges displaying the Gear,engine rpm & cornering speed.
9) In addition to the above, I’ve included a Scatter Plot of Brake temperature( in Celsius) Vs Engine RPM(in rpm)
10) You can also see the variation of the brake temperature in the numeric bar gauge.
11) A scatter ploy of G-forces Vs Acceleration(in m/s2)
Inference:-
Singapore is very much suited for KERS equipped cars, we can expect some strong performances from McLaren & Ferrari. I expect McLaren to outshine Ferrari for 3 reasons
1) Mercedes Engine & Kers are known to be more superior.
2) McLaren’s always seem to ride the bumps better than most others, but it seems they’ve been removed for no good reason.
3) They are bringing in their last aero update.
Singapore Brake Analysis by me :–
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_u59PEvcFs
Note:- I’ve slowed down the simulation by 50% for people to compare the various parameters simultaneously.
just me
22nd September 2009, 18:37
So, in your calcualations,mp4-19b, in which lap exactly has Heikki to crash to bring out the safety car and Hamilton to win?
just me
22nd September 2009, 18:44
sorri, me not speeck Enklisch so god!
Martin
22nd September 2009, 22:14
that funny…good one just me
Harv's
24th September 2009, 0:24
what a comedian! If grosiean crashes during the around when alonso pits then there is going to be a roit!
UnicornF1
22nd September 2009, 19:03
great analysis!!!! Thanx!
steph90
22nd September 2009, 14:36
Heard Sam Michael said Williams intends to use kers next year? Haven’t they just been let in FOTA?
I don’t mind kers but I don’t want another team argument.
HounslowBusGarage
22nd September 2009, 14:43
I’m confused. I though KERS was banned for next year.
Bigbadderboom
22nd September 2009, 14:49
It’s not banned as I understand, it’s use has unanimously been withdrawn by all FOTA members, so it’s no suprise Williams is once again going against the grain!!! LOL
Leaf
22nd September 2009, 15:20
Right your are BBB. I was thinking the same. FOTA gets unanimous agreement within the ranks, which I believe is a genuine effort amoung the teams to try for this transparency everybody carps about all the time. Unfailingly Williams seems to be the one that always goes the other way. It once again takes away from the racing and brings to the fore politics.
HounslowBusGarage
22nd September 2009, 16:00
Understand! Ta.
Ads21
22nd September 2009, 18:55
haha i love willimas
steph90
22nd September 2009, 14:49
No just the FOTA teams agreed not to use it (though I don’t think Williams was a member at the time but now the team has been accepted back into the FOTA fold)
Adrian
22nd September 2009, 14:55
Keith, another change to the track I believe is the addition of an egress point between turns 17 and 18…how ironic!!
David
22nd September 2009, 14:56
Anyway, I find this track absurd, at all.
No major overtaking chances and some bends, like the tortoise chicane, really really absurd. I cannot see any interesting point on this track.
Tiomkin
22nd September 2009, 14:58
Hulkamania rules, let the fixing begin. F1=Pro Wrestling. Its all in the script. I’m sure they’ll put on a great ‘show’.
Bigbadderboom
22nd September 2009, 15:01
Although I echo your sentiments Keith you can’t help feeling that the dust has only just started to settle.
Interesting reading today about a “Distraught” Flavio considering legal action. And yet more astounding the possibility of him setting up a non-sanctioned rival series to F1.
Hopefully Alonso will issue a comment and leave it at that, and the FIA release a blanket statement. So we can all enjoy the spectacle of a decent night race. I’m sure the BBC will move things along, they are quite good at that.
As for the race, I’d love to see a good old fashio ding-dong between the two Brawn drivers, if Jenson can get away in front of Rubens then we may just get it, Rubens will know he has to get in front, I doubt they’ll be battling for podiums but I’ll still enjoy a good scrap. I think Kimi will get a podium again and I think Lewis will go well. Hopefully Vettel will through caution to the wind and stop worrying about his last engine.
I predict a good weekend.
dsob
22nd September 2009, 15:46
Yeah, competing rival series.
Falvio as President of the series, with Symonds as Permanent Race Director, Nelson SR as Head of Media Relations, and Nelson JR as Head of the Series Court, in charge of arbitrating all decisions on competition.
Now, THAT is a line-up. :)
Bigbadderboom
22nd September 2009, 16:58
Formula Faux!!
Dingle Dell
22nd September 2009, 15:05
Noooooooo!!! I want those showers of sparks back! How dearly I miss F1 in the 80s and early 90s where there used to be titanium skid plates! We need bumpy tracks, not silky smooth tracks!
The current regulations need to be changed! Why can’t F1 cars overtake? Easy. It is because there is too much aerodynamic grip on the car instead of mechanical grip. It isn’t that they cannot overtake, it’s just that the cars were too quick, too many gears (7 of them!), mediocre paddle-shift system (we need gated shifter!).
F1 cars are too narrow and that makes the cars easier to spin compared to wider car in the 80s and very early 90s that has ground effect.
No overtaking was caused by the standardised engine power as well. Everyone runs V8, some 19,000RPM, 2.4L engine. That equalises the field and makes racing boring. We need a grid of cars ranging from V6 turbocharged to V12 natural aspirated powerplants!
Firstly we will need Max Mosley gone, in view that Jean Todt not to be elected to continue the trend. Then we need Bernie Ecclestone gone as well and that horrendous Hermann Tilke out of F1 track designing. Hoping for Ari Vatanen to bring something good to F1.
Bring back the sparks and wide cars with wide rear wheels and ground effects and titanium skid plates with showers of sparks all over with wheel-to-wheel battle without the sissy lunatic race stewards bringing small collision into inspection and throw a tantrum by penalising the driver(s) and putting a set-up for the race outcome and pitstops with those crews wearing shirts and shorts with refuelling gone that would be what F1 got to be.
Only then we will see that F1 being able to fully redeem itself to its true self!
Tim
23rd September 2009, 15:41
The plank that was added to the bottom of the cars in mid-1994 is why we no longer see sparks, not lack of bumpy tracks.
The plank was introduced to force teams to increase the ride height and thereby decrease downforce and cornering speeds. If the wear on the plank is too great then the driver is disqualified – as Michael Schumacher was in Belgium 1994.
From memory, before 1994 cars only had to pass a minimum ride height test so floor wear wasn’t an issue.
Leaf
22nd September 2009, 15:14
I just read the headline to this article. Not the article itself, nor the comments. My first impression, based on the headline of the article, is if F1 wants to redem itself this weekend does that mean we need to get a race in without scandel or accusations of cheating? I sure as heck hope so. Other than that, I hope we get an exciting race. Given this track though, I doubt it. Frankly the novelty of a night race in F1 has worn off for me.
All we can do is hope for the best.
UnicornF1
22nd September 2009, 15:46
is the weather stormy in Singapore?
The weather predictions are not so good…
I believe that either a storm or the smog will give an early finish to this race. I am not expecting it to finish within 2 hours. I am afraid that it might not even start!!!
Jess
22nd September 2009, 15:47
F1, FIA, FOM, WMSC, FOTA (did I get them all) if is not one causing a stir it is another. I dont see how F1 can redeem itself. There is a lot of double standards and too much conflict in this series. I am goning to finish the year out but I dont know if I want to watch anymore afterwards. There is almost no talk about the race, just the creat that took place. Hoping for a good weekend.
Bigbadderboom
22nd September 2009, 17:00
CVC ;)
roberttty
22nd September 2009, 15:59
I live in Singapore and there’s no rain today although the sky does look gloomy all day…
I am betting that it will rain on 1, if not all 3 days of race weekend but not at night – which means the race could take place on a wet but drying race
KNF
22nd September 2009, 16:17
Did you walk along the track? So far (as of Monday) the barriers are up, but I was able to take pictures of the various corners and into the Floating Platform grandstand area. The paddock is closed off to the public, in case anyone was wondering…
I’m bringing my raincoat along just in case it rains over the weekend…
KNF
22nd September 2009, 16:18
Did you walk along the track? So far (as of Monday) the barriers are up, but I was able to take pictures of the various corners and walk into the Floating Platform grandstand area. The paddock is closed off to the public, in case anyone was wondering…
I’m bringing my raincoat along just in case it rains over the weekend…
KNF
22nd September 2009, 16:18
Did you walk along the track? So far (as of Monday) the barriers are up, but I was able to take pictures of the various corners and walk into the Floating Platform grandstand area. The paddock is closed off to the public, in case anyone was wondering…
I’m bringing my raincoat along just in case it rains over the weekend…
KNF
22nd September 2009, 16:21
Sorry guys, about that triple post (something screwy with my network). Mods, you can delete the first two replies I made…
Bigbadderboom
22nd September 2009, 17:02
Any chance of posting some of those pictures KNF, I’d be interested to see them.
KNF
25th September 2009, 4:35
Here’s my pictures uploaded on Facebook Albums, a bit messed up as the Albums app is bloody awful… :(
UnicornF1
22nd September 2009, 16:30
That sounds good!
Is there any website with a more accurate prediction?
The following I usually watch are way off…
http://weather.msn.com/local.aspx?wealocations=wc:SNXX0006&q=Singapore%2c+SGP
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=1.35916698,103.98916626
roberttty
22nd September 2009, 17:22
I do not really rely much on those weather predictions by the websites because of the unique weather here in Singapore – it seldom rain in the evenings!
More often than not, the rain comes in the early mornings and afternoon.
Also, the supplier of the lights is claiming his lights are projected vertically onto the track so that the light does not reflect into the drivers’ eyes – unlike the Qatar lights which were projected at an angle.
UnicornF1
22nd September 2009, 18:13
than you very much for these really useful news!!! 8-)
steph90
22nd September 2009, 16:07
I liked the sparks or maybe I’m easily plased. I don’t mind this track actually but it could still do with some better overtaking opportunities. I expect lewis to be strong
:(, Kimi to be on podium again, and oddly and unrelated to recent events I would like Alonso to finally end up on the podium this season.Seb has said previosuly he will now throw it all into the race and now is no time for caution so a win from him would brighten my week.
roberttty
22nd September 2009, 16:28
Hi KNF,
I walked the area from Turn 9 to Turn 7. The barriers are almost up in all parts of the circuit and the roads will be totally closed from Wednesday onward.
The lights are also switched every night for testing since last Thursday, so Mon’s evening rain should give the organizers some idea should the rain come again in the weekends.
KNF
23rd September 2009, 3:32
Oh, I walked the whole track as much as I could (paddock area is closed off). Started from the crossing between Suntec City and One Raffles Link(Turn 7) and walked till Turn 5 outside the pit building. I’ll see if I can put up something this evening…
Alistair
22nd September 2009, 16:30
McLaren have a big (and final) aero update for this race. Plus, this track should suit them. So I’d watch out for Lewis Hamilton.
But I do hope that McLaren gets their strategy right, for once. Why did they put Lewis on a two-stopper in Monza when they declared to the press that it was slower than a one-stopper (by about 7 seconds, which would have been enough for the win). Also, there is no point in fueling a KERS car light: they should have more fuel than their rivals and then jump them at the start. McLaren gave Lewis a huge amount of work to do: to be an average of 0.9 sec. per lap faster than the Brawns…
Tiomkin
22nd September 2009, 17:33
Bernie handed out the scripts, and it wasn’t Lewis’ turn to win. It was more of a entertaining to have Rubens win this time.
patrickl
23rd September 2009, 11:00
Why would Lewis have had to be 0.9s per lap faster?
He made one stop extra. That means he needed to be 0.5s per lap faster.
Pete Walker
22nd September 2009, 16:32
Ahh, nothing like good old fashioned ‘improvements’.
Smoothed out bumps, less agressive kerbs, tricky chicanes slowed down… Now we just need a guy to hand out sweeties during the pitstops and the babies will be fully taken care of.
The pitlane entrance/exit did need looking at though.
Alex Bkk
22nd September 2009, 17:27
I’m a 2 hour flight away from Singapore…but I wont be attending. The word “redeem” is a bit ambiguous and definable according to anyones particular bias Keith.
Does F1 really have to prove anything to anyone?
mp4-19b
22nd September 2009, 17:59
I pity you more than I pity myself :( :(
PJA
22nd September 2009, 17:35
I think if it is a regular race it could well be as boring as Valencia. The only things likely to liven it up are a safety car or rain, and then we don’t know if a floodlit F1 race in the rain will cause any additional problems.
steph90
22nd September 2009, 17:48
MP4 thankis for analysis, I for one love the insight I don’t know how you learnt to do it all.
mp4-19b
22nd September 2009, 18:08
Thanx mate. Its nothing special. Just did a few laps round singapore track. You’ve gotta a data acquisition plugin that logs in all data i.e. the various parameters like brake temp, g-forces,engine temp,rpm ,yaw etc. then the next step would be to import this logged data into a telemetry software called motec. Here you can compare the various parameters & how they vary & behave in the course of the entire lap. In this I’ve concentrated mainly on brakes, but you can do plenty of other parameter analysis & comparison, but some of the stuff needs advanced technical knowledge of vehicle dynamics. But I’m no expert in this field :( . Unfortunately I’ve majored in Electrical Engineering. But the good news is that I’m catching up :)
mp4-19b
22nd September 2009, 18:59
KNF
23rd September 2009, 3:37
I’d suggest reading “Race Car Vehicle Dynamics” by William and Douglas Milliken (if you haven’t done so already), it was very useful when I did a vehicle dynamics class during my M.Sc…
Baz
22nd September 2009, 18:01
See that Williams is planning to use KERS for 2010.
Charlie
22nd September 2009, 18:16
I will be there!!! I wll post a report and photos afterwards ;o)
Nik
22nd September 2009, 18:22
If there are complaints that the scandals overshadow the races, maybe they should make the tracks better? The situation reminds me of my old Micro Machines game on the Sega Medgadrive, where you could create your own track – so you just made the silliest one possible.
Personally I feel F1 has nothing to redeem for. It might not be to everyone’s satisfaction, but the crashing case (I’m boycotting using the suffix “-gate” all the time!) is pretty much closed now. Even though I won’t be expecting much, once that FOM music plays I won’t be thinking about anything but the race.
steph90
22nd September 2009, 18:30
lol Mp4 you do seem quite expert if I’m honest
:PI try 2 check your analysis when cars on out round the laps and it’s just a great insight. You did a few laps round Singapore did you say?And I’ve just got my uni timetable it’s a mess I’m missing all of practice on friday and so will miss live blog too
:(If anyone does the liveblog or watches f1 via mobile could any please give me information on which mobile to get to be able to do this also? Either that or they are just going to have to put up with me dragging my laptop everywhere.
mp4-19b
22nd September 2009, 19:23
Actually I managed to SYNC Massa’s quali lap from 2008 to this telemetry, but the problem was I couldn’t record it off my desktop. For some strange reason my comp hangs if I try to do that :( Sadly i’m forced to record it off my phone camera. Sorry for the poor quality :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJHTuMpmeeQ
isuraeru
22nd September 2009, 18:44
as Luca said one year ago, Singapore is a Circus but this time the clowns are Renault…
slr
22nd September 2009, 19:20
Luca is just bad loser.
Martin
22nd September 2009, 22:18
maybe, but that was a good sarcastic comment. A little levity is always good.
Rahim
22nd September 2009, 19:01
Goooo Kimi……….. :-)
steph90
22nd September 2009, 21:00
Thaqnks mp4 and my fav driver
:D. The qualities fine, I can see it so it’s all good.Becken
22nd September 2009, 21:48
This excerpt is verty interesting:
The point is: Who would be in a position to question that kind of strategy? The following suggestion that Witness X didn´t “know the plan” until Junior crash the car, suggests for me that Alonso is the man!
Prisoner Monkeys
23rd September 2009, 2:15
There’s only one serious change I’d make to Marina Bay. I’d get rid of turns eighteen through twenty-one. Sure, having the circuit go under the grandstand is a novelty … but the result is that all the corners from turn sixteen to twenty-one are nintey-degree bends. The exit from turn seventeen should feed onto a straight that goes unbroken to what is now turn twenty-three. That way, the final turn is a much faster double-apex, and with the wall on the outside of the corner now much closer, it will become a much more dfficult section down to the first turn, now modified for better braking opportunities.
wasiF1
23rd September 2009, 3:22
Among all the drivers Kimi & Alonso has the advantage of having two unused engines.
Below is a list of how many new engines each driver has used thus far from Formula1.com.
McLaren-Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton – 7
Heikki Kovalainen – 7
Ferrari
Giancarlo Fisichella – 6
Kimi Raikkonen – 6
BMW Sauber
Robert Kubica – 7
Nick Heidfeld – 7
Renault
Fernando Alonso – 6
Romain Grosjean – 6
Toyota
Jarno Trulli – 7
Timo Glock – 7
STR-Ferrari
Jaime Alguersuari – 6
Sebastien Buemi – 6
RBR-Renault
Mark Webber – 7
Sebastian Vettel – 8
Williams-Toyota
Nico Rosberg – 7
Kazuki Nakajima – 7
Force India-Mercedes
Adrian Sutil – 7
Vitantonio Liuzzi – 7
Brawn-Mercedes
Jenson Button – 7
Rubens Barrichello – 7
I still bet Kimi will be on the podium as Ferrari has been good on street track
Mr.Chen
23rd September 2009, 4:12
http://www.bagcollectonline.com/
Tmax
23rd September 2009, 4:26
With just 3 days to go for the race weekend I am wondering who is going to Lead the Renault team at SGP.
Flav and Symonds both are not around . Who is the next senior person ? or will Renault bring in the replacement for this race itself. What ever it is that person is going to have one great heck of a job.
Good Luck Renault and the new Manager.
JohnBt
23rd September 2009, 7:35
Just a funny thought: will all drivers approaching turn 17 slow down a lot just in case of a mistake. If anyone should crash at turn 17, for sure the race will be stopped for immediate investigation. Or worse, all drivers will be too careful not to crash at any turns, causing a procession. LOLOL. Anyway, looking forward to a good clean dry race.
F1Fan
23rd September 2009, 16:47
Button will win this race easily.
jack koh
24th September 2009, 10:17
More real crashes and overtaking this year pls … and no more pit lane slip up from ferrari.