Grosjean targets fewer mistakes in 2013

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In the round-up: Romain Grosjean says getting through a year with a single error in a race would be “a good season”.


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Time to prove a point, again (ESPN)

Grosjean: “I’ll be happy if I score as many points as I could have in the ideal, minus 5% or something like that. If you look back on the season and can say ‘I only made one mistake in a race’ or something like that then it’s a good season.”

Hamilton: count me out of title race (The Telegraph)

“People are talking us up – Sebastian Vettel and Fernando Alonso are saying we’re going to be competing for a championship. I really don’t see that happening at the moment.”

Government blocks move for grand prix headcount (The Age)

“[Greens MP Sue] Pennicuik said it would not be hard for an accurate attendance count at the grand prix. ‘I mean, really, why can’t they have some turnstile there? What argument do they have for not doing it?'”

Formula One, and why we’re selfish (Michael Lamonato)

“We’re not paying for Formula One just watch some cars race around a track, we’re paying to promote our city’s image – and every time word of our bitterness about the cost makes its way to the international press, that image we’re working hard to promote becomes stained and tarnished.”

Whitmarsh’s verdict on the state of F1 (Autosport, subscription required)

“Formula 1 remains a fantastic environment for brand exposure for [original equipment manufacturers]… I predict that we’d be back up to four or five OEMs in five years’ time in the sport, then you’ll have a constant churn. At the end of the day, Formula 1 is our core business.”

The stars come out in Russia this weekend (Charles Pic)

“This weekend Caterham F1 Team’s Charles Pic and Lotus F1 Team’s Kimi Raikkonen will go racing again, although not behind the wheel of their usual F1 machines. The two will be participating in the ‘Race of Stars’ event, a unique activity staged in Moscow, Russia, by Za Rulem, one of Russia’s most popular automotive magazines, and Renault Russia.”


Comment of the day

Among the best suggestions for the Sebastian Vettel Caption Competition were those from RagingInferno, JameFranklinF1, Cyberaxiom, TommyB and PlutoniumHunter.

And my favourite was this from Daniel Thomas (@iamdanthomas):

While Vettel gives it the thumbs up, Webber tries to show his dissatisfaction with Red Bull’s new two-man cockpit.

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55 comments on “Grosjean targets fewer mistakes in 2013”

  1. While Vettel gives it the thumbs up, Webber tries to show his dissatisfaction with Red Bull’s new two-man cockpit.

    That may be the single best caption we’ve ever had.

    1. Agreed! Was blown away with laughter!

      1. Webber looks like he’s drowning. Someone save him! XD

    2. Agreed, very very clever !

    3. Chris (@tophercheese21)
      24th February 2013, 0:54

      I dont understand it… :/

      Is it some sort of reference to Newey?

      1. @tophercheese21 – It’s less funny when you have to explain the joke, but here goes: Vettel approves of the new two-man car, and is giving the thumbs-up. The other hand belongs to Webber, who is crammed into the footwell and trying to escape.

        1. Chris (@tophercheese21)
          24th February 2013, 1:07

          ohhhhhhhhhh ahahah i see it now!

          that’s great!

          1. @tophercheese21 :SLOWPOKE: :P hehe, kdd !

          2. Chris (@tophercheese21)
            24th February 2013, 1:17

            Haha absolutely I was slow.
            I usually pretty good with these things, but that one stumped me ahah.

          3. LOL, It took me reading it twice and looking really good at it to understand as well, I think its briliant :-)

    4. Hahaha! That’s amazing.

    5. Agreed, that one’s brilliant!

    6. davidnotcoulthard
      24th February 2013, 16:46

      No, I prefer BARber.

  2. I think Lewis needs to tone down his comments about Mercedes chances. Don’t get me wrong, it’s refreshing to hear a direct response instead of the standard vague non commital replies. But it’s getting to the point where he may as well be saying to the media that he isn’t even interested in trying to win this year. Next year might be more to their advantage (potentially – it’ll be a huge disaster if they now don’t deliver next year), but the team will have still tried their best this year to provide a solid car, yet it keeps getting put down.

    Then again… this could just be the seasons biggest sandbag campaigne. I really hope it’s a podium capable car from the get go.

    1. @nick-uk everyone does it. Vettel kept saying in 2011: “it’s not over yet, it’s not over yet”

      It’s a way to keep pressure off you, and not raise too many expectations. They are not gonna say: “damn, we got the best car, we’re gonna win !”. They are always “hopeful” of fighting for something, they always sandbag.

      1. I personally don’t get the whole point of sandbaging if it’s for the sake of the other teams. What does sayting ‘yeah we’re slow’ actually do, nothing. It doesn’t make another team relax on their development or make their cars any slower and saying your own car is slow doesn’t make it any faster. Everybody knows teams sandbag so nobody belives anything another says. It’s just an elaborate, expensive pantomine in testing. I don’t see why they waste their time with it and then laster say rubbish like ‘we don’t get involved in the politics’/’make funny/silly comments’.

        I was watching some rally driver interviews from the WRC a few weeks ago on youtube (old videos) and hearing quotes from drivers like: “Yeah, we’re dominating a lot right now, it’s a lot of fun!” and: “If I don’t win today then in doesn’t matter anymore as I’ll be out of the running for the title.” They were saying things so direct and truthful that it almost shocked me after watching F1 for so long. I just wish it was the same in F1. It’s so frustrating at times to sit and listen to all thier dribble.

        1. @nick-uk I don’t think the teams really have the luxury of being able to sandbag, because of the limited testing they have. But you’re right, no one is going to sit on their laurels, regardless.

    2. Chris (@tophercheese21)
      24th February 2013, 1:41

      Tbh, i wouldn’t really read into any of the driver comments at this stage regarding their potential for the season.

      The only thing that really matters is how they think the car is feeling at that moment in time. Good, or Bad. Those are really the only comments I “listen” to in preseason testing.

      Other than that it’s just drivel.

    3. @nick-uk – I think Hamilton is doing the right thing, myself. There’s going to be a whole lot of pressure and expectations on Mercedes this year, primarily because they have Hamilton, and Hamilton is recognised as one of the best drivers on the grid; but also because a lot of people have voiced the opinion that this year will make or break Mercedes and that if they cannot get results, then Mercedes-Benz will pull out of Formula 1.

      The reality is probably somewhere in between. On the one hand, they have set some decent lap times in testing, but on the other hand, they know they have a lot of work to do. Hamilton’s downplaying of their chances balances nicely against Rosberg’s positive comments.

      1. @prisoner-monkeys Yeah, well said. They seem to be handling it well, all members of the team. Seems about the only thing they’ve managed well in the past 3 or 4 years.

    4. I think it’s way better to manage expectations now and (hopefully) exceed them later. Look at Schumacher’s comeback – sure, he made some silly mistakes all on his own, but I think there were people who got over-excited and then all the talk that he’s even tarnished his previous record started. Hamilton’s not in quite the same position, but I think he’s right to be cautious. I don’t think it means he won’t be fighting for whatever points/podiums/wins he possibly can.

    5. Hamilton is just bsing @nick-uk as if that game will work. The car is probably a top 5 car from the get go and I think he is doing this for two reasons. One, Lewis thinks this will help have teams look away and surprise them when Q3 comes around. Or he is doing this to have Merc GP keep up work on the car through the season via crap talking. Not sure either way but we’ve seen him do it plenty of times at McLaren even with Jenson helping (Button doing the same as well this season), this is his pre-season game.

      1. Let’s be honest “top 5 car” means 4th or 5th car on the grid. Otherwise you would call it “top 3 car”. This means that there are at least 6 drivers with better cars, and Mercedes is nowhere near the championship battle. That’s the reality in my opinion and Lewis is right to keep the expectations on a realistic level.

        1. haha +1 lol . However , you can’t speak to the press like that ,especially when you are their hot punching bag for sale !

    6. I agree with @nick-uk to some extent. Although, it’s ok to downplay expectations a little bit, now it feels like every Hamilton article you see is negative about Mercedes. It’s not all his fault; he says one thing, and the headline over the article often makes it sound even more negative.

      Personally, I think Mercedes’s testing times so far are cause for cautious optimism, and maybe in Melbourne (where outright downforce is not as important as at, say, Sepang) they can spring a surprise.

      1. I don’t mundane Hamilton’s comments, everyone knows f1 is full of mind games and pr nonsense. That said I’ve seen nothing to suggest that he will or won’t be s championship contender. His 23.8 on hard tyres didnt help the gossip, but we know that’s a fast time given he carried 10+ laps of fuel. overall I think Hamilton’s massive down playing vs rosbergs positive comments balance the press and let’s face it, they keep getting the headlines . I’d say it’s the pr teams telling the drivers what to say than driver opinion at this stage.

        1. *mind

          Stupid predictive text

    7. I dont know if we can trust Hamilton. We know he has a massive PR company dictating what he says. They saw how well this tactic worked for Alonso last year, and so it is likely they will play the same card. So Ham will say the car is bad, then do well in it, and everyone think’s he’s doing amazing (not that he needs to prove anything!).

      I say this because Rosberg is pretty much saying the opposite of Hamilton:

      “The car is definitely a big step forward,” he told “It feels very nice to drive with a good balance. It is a massive step.

      “Take the rear. We had massive problems with tyre heating and losing grip and all that. That seems to be history now. And that is really a massive change.”

      Last year Merc were within the top 10 most of the time and won a race. This year, considering their “massive step” found in performance, I dont see how they could move backwards?

      1. @infy

        This year, considering their “massive step” found in performance, I dont see how they could move backwards?

        I too find Hamilton is being defeatist, but I think there could be an explanation for both his and Rosberg’s comments. Hamilton of course spent last year driving a McLaren, which was the fastest car and so had highly developed aerodynamics and the like. He has highlighted that the W04 lacks the aerodynamic grip of the MP4-27 that he raced in Brazil, which is why he believes that his car isn’t a race winner (for his McLaren, which was, is better).

        Rosberg on the other hand spent the latter part of the season in a car which struggled to score points, and was in Brazil a second off the pace in qualifying. So to him the improvements may feel significant but actually, once we factor in the improvements obviously made by others, may not be so.

        Without doubt though he is exaggerating for the purposes of defecting pressure off of himself and to keep the other teams questioning.

    8. @nick-u as long as they ask him about his chances he’ll be saying that. I think by know, despite testing being what testing is, it’s clear that Mercedes has a good car. Winning a championship still would be near impossible but a race or two would not be a big surprise.

  3. In my opinion that Michael Lamonato article hits the nail on the head. What a constructive and sensible view of the current Aussie GP shenanigans. I certainly hope that some of the outspoken opposition have a chance to consider it in a different light, although most are likely to be stubborn bas*ards that would sooner let a croc nibble on their Jatz crackers than acknowledge their foolish behavior.

    Loved the caption comment! Brings a grin to my face every time I picture Mark wriggling around down there cursing Newey for removing the step nose air vent from the RB9.

  4. Can we stop getting updated on Australian elections campaigns?

  5. It annoys me to see so many people hating Melbourne’s wonderful Grand Prix. A couple of weeks ago, for a school presentation, we were tasked with persuading an audience on a current Australian issue. Naturally i chose why Melbourne should continue hosting the GP. So for all you haters out there, read this and be converted.

    Good Afternoon, my name is Abnash and today I’m going to demonstrate to you why Melbourne should renew its contract to host the Formula 1 Grand Prix past 2015. Much debate has arisen as to whether we should keep our beloved Grand Prix. This has intensified in light of revelations on the cost of staging the event. The race currently enjoys worldwide popularity for being the Formula 1 season opener and exciting close racing. It is therefore bewildering to think why anyone would want such a magnificent event to go.
    Melbourne is the sporting capital of the world. How many of you heard this as kids, and still hear it today? If we are to keep our sporting capital of the world title, Formula 1 must stay. As an international sport it is in our best interests to keep this rare elite spectacle in Melbourne. With only 19 Grand Prix in the world it should be considered a privilege that Melbourne is a part of an exclusive list of exotic hosts. Hosts like Monaco, Singapore, Sao Paulo, Shanghai and Abu Dhabi.
    We must realise that the Grand Prix flatters Melbourne, offering it a chance to be thought of as a truly world class city. Looking at the list of hosts it can be seen that hosting a Grand Prix points to a city of high living standards and considerable wealth. Formula 1 is essential, as it casts a great image on Melbourne, signifying an exclusive and appealing city to the rest of the world.
    It is this worldwide exposure that presents one of the biggest benefits of Formula 1. It is unquestionably an international sport and with this comes much exposure to international viewers as they watch the fastest, most exquisite machines ever built race around our city. It still ranks as one of the most accessible sports, in that the world sees the majority of races and the excitement that comes with them, for free. Televised races are broadcast overseas and are watched by tens of millions of fans who discover not just about the thrilling nature of Formula 1 but are transfixed by the views of Melbourne itself.
    Indeed, a Grand Prix shows a lot about a country. Albert Parks’ amazing track reflects an attractive, exciting, highly developed city, hence the events popularity. It seems that us Melburnians agree with this assessment. The first time the race was held in 1996, 401 000 people came to the event. Since then the average has been well over 75% capacity. Melbourne revels in the worldwide exposure and praise it receives from hosting the Grand Prix and is consequently loved by its inhabitants.
    Being a well covered and popular sport, Melbourne attracts many tourists who come not only during the race, but also during their own holidays, attracted by first impressions of our Grand Prix. 81% of all visitors during the Grand Prix weekend told researchers that their reason for the stay was indeed for the Grand Prix. These travellers’ expenses are in no way limited to the event itself; our economy gets a much needed boost from expenditure on our hotels, restaurants and transport system. And that’s only the start of it
    4500 jobs are generated just to run the event. Furthermore, Formula 1 involves highly skilled engineers, mechanics and technicians and with them comes the element of sophistication that is dropped on the city. This appearance can lead to more highly skilled migrants heading to Melbourne or at least becoming exposed to it. Tourism and successive benefits are important outcomes that Melbourne achieves through the Grand Prix.
    With all this in mind it becomes difficult to rationalise departing with the Grand Prix, essentially the only substantial criticism lies in the upfront cost of the event. 50 million dollars is seen by many as a waste of money. This is an ill considered argument. Simply put, it does not take into account the economic and intangible benefits generated from tourism and hospitality at the event.
    What’s more, is that other events have had much more money pumped into them. The Commonwealth Games in Melbourne cost 1.1 billion dollars. Rod Laver Arena has a 368 million dollar contract paid by the Victorian government to host the tennis to 2036. Add to that a promised 1 billion dollar investment. Take the amount spent on the tennis that pays for our Grand Prix for the next 27 years.
    Also not considered is the immeasurable brand image and positive depiction Melbourne receives. Without the Grand Prix do you really expect Melbourne’s only other international sporting events, The Australian Open and Boxing Day Test to carry all the brand image association? Condemnation of Formula 1 in Melbourne shows the narrow-mindedness of people who do not think of what benefits result from the Grand Prix.
    While the Grand Prix continuing is currently a viable option, should the narrow-minded arguments as to its costs persuade the government there are solutions that present the best of both worlds. Spain and Germany both have two races in the one country however to keep costs down they have a race sharing agreement where one year they hold a race at one track, next year the other.
    Melbourne could easily have such an agreement with possibly Adelaide or Sydney. Adelaide is a good option for its high popularity among residents, 520 000 people turned up for the race in 1995. Sydney could also host the Grand Prix, being a wealthy city with many fans as is proven by the current success of the Australian Motor Show being shared between Sydney and Melbourne.
    And a last point. Recently the controversy surrounding the Essendon Football Club has brought into question how much kids can look up to sport as a whole and players as role models. To add to this the Australian Crime Commissions recent report has connected many sports with some degree of illegal substance abuse, organised crime and match fixing links.
    In a time where kids and fans are questioning who they can look up to what better solution than to direct them to a sport that rewards teamwork, athletic ability and intellectual greatness. Indeed this was recognised by former McLaren driver David Coulthard in his response to those who question the Grand Prix. “Think of the greater good” he argued “what it does for the local economy and what it does to inspire young children to want to be engineers, designers or drivers”. If anything the Grand Prix should remain to give us something to look up to.
    Melbourne is the sporting capital of the world and the Grand Prix is one of the driving factors in this title. To lose the Grand Prix would be tragic loss and would leave Melbourne with a lot less to show for itself especially at a time when the integrity of sport is under question. Formula 1 is firmly part of Melbourne’s appeal and to lose it now would be a great loss to us all.

    1. uh – uh ? how did my browser skip to another article from being first in the comments window :P

    2. Melbourne is the sporting capital of the world

      we like to say we are..

  6. What gets me about the anti-Melbourne F1 people is they always quote how much it costs. Never mention the income or the amount it boost the local economy. Never mind the increased exposure of Melbourne to a world wide audience.

    So I did a little digging and found a report by Ernst and Young on the 2011 race. It states,

    Overall, the 2011 Grand Prix increased Victorian Gross State Product (GSP) by between
    $32.04 million and $39.34 million and created an additional 351 to 411 jobs in the State.

    Not a bad earner. There are included some other financial scenario’s in the report.

    1. @w-k

      What gets me about the anti-Melbourne F1 people is they always quote how much it costs. Never mention the income or the amount it boost the local economy. Never mind the increased exposure of Melbourne to a world wide audience.

      The first rule of journalism is that you should never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

      About ten years ago, I was seriously considering a career in journalism, so I signed up for work experience at my local newspaper. I mostly just followed a journalist or two around to observe how they worked, and I’m glad I had the expeirence because I would have hated it as a career path. But I remember one of my final assignments quite well: an elderly lady had been complaining to police that local kids had been setting off firecrackers that were frightening her dogs. When the police couldn’t do anything, she called the paper. We went out to interview her, and quickly found out why – she couldn’t tell us anything more than local kids had been setting off firecrackers that were frightening her dogs. She refused to have her name in print, and she wouldn’t let us take pictures of her dogs because she was afraid that the kids setting off the firecrackers would read about it and come after her (or, more likely, her dogs) seeking bloody vengeance as if it were a Tarantino film. In short, there was no story, but we’d wasted a whole lot of time, effort and resources just getting to that point, so we had to go back with something. At that point, the journalist I was with decided to spin the story into an expose on a band of kids terrorising the neighbourhood after dark, and that residents were living in fear for their lives while the police were powerless to apprehend the suspects. He never published a word that was untrue, but he knew the sensational angle was the only way to turn it into something that people would be interested in reading. Like I said, you should never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

      So when it comes to the Grand Prix, The Age knows that a headline that reads THE GOVERNMENT IS WASTING YOUR MONEY ON SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT (or words to that effect) is going to attract much more in the way of readership than a headline that reads SENSIBLE GOVERNMENT INVESTS MONEY IN SPORTS EVENT, LOCAL BUSINESSES REAP ECONOMIC REWARDS. Maybe I’m just being a cynic here, but it’s because scandal and controversy attract far more readership than sound economic policy. For instance, I caught a snatch of a documentary on the Oscar Pistorius murder case about an hour ago. The presenter went out of his way to explain that when he interviewed Pistorius after the London Olympics, his first impression was that Pistorius a genuine role model and an inspiration to us all, because that characterisation makes Pistorius’ fall from grace that all the more shocking than if he was an arrogant and irrational pain in the backside who you just wanted to punch two minutes after meeting him.

      1. The first rule of journalism is that you should never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

        That’s sensationalism, not journalism. :)

        The first rule of journalism is fact-checking. :)

  7. William Brierty
    24th February 2013, 10:23

    BIG NEWS!!!!! Well, not really. BBC Sport is making assumptions based on diddly-squat again! After two tests, a whole load of fuel disparity, inaccurate track conditions and cars that aren’t even Melbourne-spec yet, Andrew Benson (imagine if Stacey Solomon did an article about F1, because that’s pretty much what he serves up on a weekly basis) has taken a stab at guessing the grid for Melbourne! This should be funny…
    1. Jenson Button (McLaren)‬‬

    2. Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull)

    3. Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)

    4. Sergio Perez (McLaren)

    5. Mark Webber (Red Bull)

    6. Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes)

    7. Romain Grosjean (Lotus)

    8. Felipe Massa (Ferrari)

    9. Kimi Raikkonen (Lotus)

    10. Nico Rosberg (Mercedes)

    11. Nico Hulkenberg (Sauber)

    Now whilst I have been taking the Mikey Schumi, I actually think this is not a bad attempt. However it is utterly flattering of McLaren, and badly underestimates Lotus. That’s why my grid would look like this…

    1. Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull)

    2. Romain Grosjean (Lotus)

    3. Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)

    4. Kimi Raikkonen (Lotus)

    5. Mark Webber (Red Bull)

    6. Jenson Button (McLaren)‬‬

    7. Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes)

    8. Felipe Massa (Ferrari)

    9. Sergio Perez (McLaren)

    10. Nico Rosberg (Mercedes)

    11. Nico Hulkenberg (Sauber)

    That seems to be about accurate based on a) what I’ve seen from the tests and b) what I know the driver is capable of (Grosjean was P3 last year, so P7 in a notably improved Lotus is preposterous). I now invite you all to shot me down in flames…

    1. *shooting you down in flames*

    2. At least this time he hasn’t made the preposterous claim that Red Bull look uncompetitive…

      1. William Brierty
        24th February 2013, 12:38

        Yes, but he’s still saying “I think Jenson Button will be on pole”, and that’s pretty preposterous any day of the week, especially when he already starting to whinge. I literally don’t think I could survive another whingey season from Button. Hang on, are you talking about Benson or me?

        1. Why is it ‘preposterous’? Button isn’t the best qualifier, but given a good car, he can certainly deliver a fast lap time:
          -Australia ’06
          – Australia ’09
          – Malaysia ’09
          – Spain ’09
          – Monaco ’09
          – Monza ’10
          – Japan ’11
          – Spa ’12

          There are more as well, and I realise that not all of those are poles, but given that the tyres are better this year compared to last year, and that McLaren have opted for pull-rod suspension, which should enable generating tyre heat in the front tyres easier for him, then to say that qualifying on pole at a track that he clearly has an affinity for as ‘preposterous’ is down right ignorant.

          1. down right ignorant

            I seem to have touched a nerve; you wouldn’t be called Jessica by any chance? Joking aside, it is in no way “preposterous” that I think saying Jenson is going to be on pole in Melbourne is “preposterous”. You’ve quoted me 8 notable qualifying performances in an 13 season career, I would hardly say that makes him favourite for pole. You mention tyre temperature, but that’s not an issue with the wide operating window of the Pirellis, so its the mechanical balance and the downforce that will give Jenson the feeling he wants. And you’ve heard Jenson already saying that they’ve done a F2012; gone too revolutionary and have lost all understanding in the process. And you can throw that “he’s being political” mantra at me, but the car looks genuinely twitchy on track, and McLaren actually seem to be the only team struggling. Fact. Here’s some more; the Red Bulls and Lotuses look great on track, even in the wet. Vettel even had the confidence to repeatedly use a curb that was breaking up in the final day of the Jerez test; a curb that everyone else was avoiding. McLaren are on the back foot, they’ve gone with a car that they can develop throughout the year as opposed to a car that will hit the ground running, so they’ll have to divert resources away from the all important MP4-29 just to catch up. If I were them I’d have gone with the MP4-27B.

          2. @jamiefranklin – It isn’t “preposterous” but I think unlikely. From your comment, I think it is evident he can only occasionally put in a blistering time, whereas some of the more recognised qualifiers (mainly Vettel) appear to have a quick car. I think the most preposterous thing about his comments is that he is trying to predict the order at all!

          3. *@jamiefranklinf1

            And @william-brierty, great comment! I don’t think it’s out of the question Button could be on pole, but if we look at past form and testing form there is no reason to suggest he is a favourite, so Benson’s whole article is preposterous!

        2. William Brierty Benson, you’ve said in your own personal list that Red Bull will likely be on pole! I was referring to this article when talking about Benson’s “preposterous claim”!

    3. I like it how now matter the scenario, Alonso always manages the podium. :)
      It certainly says a lot about belief people have in him, when you just can’t see him off the podium. :)

      1. @brace – this is but only a rather presumptuous proposed grid.

  8. keith is there anywhere that can give us the average lap time of each driver over the full Barcelona test? i know its not going to be of any value but still it would be cool to know

  9. I think it’s a bad sign when you see a driver’s primary target being not to crash instead of winning races or the like. I do hope he accomplishes his goals though, for the sake of every other driver’s championship hopes.

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