‘Safety-critical’ fault Sargeant suffered in race wasn’t new

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1. 

   Tristan
   4th March 2024, 1:48

   It’s probably the least hyped and most disheartening start to a season in a long long time

   Can’t understand this take, it’s no worse at all than Merc Hamilton domination. Anyone expecting every race to be exciting is kidding themselves.
   People on one-hand deriding the Drive To Survive drama and excitement-driven management. Yet on the other hand deriding a performance driven competition.

   Would the race have been more exciting with 3 or 4 safety cars, some during pit-stops leading to a mixed up grid combined with a compacted grid for the restarts? 100% without a doubt, and we will get them throughout the season…

   Would the race have been more fair with a correct and proper result? Definitely not.
   1. 

      hoshino (@hoshino)
      4th March 2024, 2:12

      People seem to forget Schumi era, when Ferrari started the season seconds ahead of the pack with the last year car.
   2. 

      An Sionnach
      4th March 2024, 2:46

      Yes. I don’t mind seeing the best driver win. What sort of a sport would it be if everything was done to prevent this? I wasn’t thrilled to see Mansell win in 1992 in an unstoppable car, but it is about the car and driver combination, even though Schumacher would definitely, and Senna would most likely have beaten Mansell in equal machinery. It remains to be seen quite how unstoppable the Red Bull is this year, but a lot of its dominance compared to previous examples is actually down to Max and his astonishing consistency. Even greats like Schumacher and Prost made mistakes significant enough to end their races from time to time and Senna and Mansell made quite a few of them. In fairness to Mansell, his fearless driving style made him very suited to driving that car over someone like Prost who needed to feel everything. It would have been interesting to see them go head to head in 1993. That’s probably the best that can be done when you have such a formidable driver and car combination – get them a mighty team mate. This can even give a superb driver in the next best team a shot (Prost in 1986).

      As for what sort of sport F1 can be… see the 2005 anti-Schumacher rule changes. What would have been the equivalent rule change that could have been brought in to stop Lewis winning? Scrap turbo hybrid engines? As for Red Bull? They could examine the Red Bull suspension system and ban whatever makes it so great. That would be hilarious because then you’d have a ruleset that would have no way to make a good car!

      Wouldn’t mind seeing Alonso at Red Bull, Leclerc at Mercedes and Hulkenberg giving Lewis a hand at Ferrari next year. Might make it harder for Max. I think he’d still win, though…
      1. 

         Yaru (@yaru)
         4th March 2024, 6:42

         “As for what sort of sport F1 can be… see the 2005 anti-Schumacher rule changes. What would have been the equivalent rule change that could have been brought in to stop Lewis winning? Scrap turbo hybrid engines? As for Red Bull?”

         They tried to nerf Merc/Ham in 2017. It worked up to a point. Nerfing dominant teams is normal in F1 and this is far from the only example.
         1. 

            An Sionnach
            4th March 2024, 14:26

            I didn’t say it was the only example, just one that is almost beyond belief. You really would have to do something drastic like get rid of the hybrid engines (for Mercedes) or change all the circuits to be ones that would would not suit the Red Bull (24 Singapore GPs!) to take similarly drastic action.

            Evidence that I am correct? Well it worked, didn’t it? Look at the score board in 2004 and 2005 versus when there were other rule changes.
   3. 

      AdrianMorse (@adrianmorse)
      4th March 2024, 5:13

      I disagree Tristan, this domination is worse than the Mercedes/Hamilton years. Hamilton had team mates that were far closer to him, and for a number of seasons a competitive Ferrari.
      2014: epic title fight
      2015: bit of a boring year, since Hamilton got his act together early, but still individual races could be won by Rosberg (he won the last three!)
      2016: Rosberg actually won that one!
      2017-2018: competitive Ferrari
      2019: Ferrari started seemingly competitive, though their challenge faded a little
      2020: Not much of a title fight that year in the end, but Bottas did win the first race, and with Covid it was such a weird year that I would not call it boring.
      2021: epic title fight with Max

      Perhaps the Schumi era was a little more comparable to Max’s domination, possibly 2002 and 2004 were quite boring, but then Schumacher never won the same percentage of races as Max did. Mansell had a car that was occasionally miles ahead in speed, but that was only one season, and for many of the races his car broke down. So, in my opinion, Max’s domination since the middle of 2022 is the worst (or most impressive, depending on your point of view) ever.
      1. 

         Tristan
         4th March 2024, 5:43

         It’s funny you point out the “competitive” Ferrari years, which weren’t really, they were just front-loaded. I took the “wait and see” approach in those years too and they turned out to be just as boring.

         One race doesn’t make a season.
         1. 

            Yaru (@yaru)
            4th March 2024, 6:42

            One race doesn’t make a season, but it’s not a good indicator given that the first race of last year did make the season.
         2. 

            AdrianMorse (@adrianmorse)
            4th March 2024, 7:37

            I agree, one race doesn’t make a season, and perhaps if the Ferraris can frequently start in front of Max then we might get some interesting races.

            Regarding the 2017 and 2018 seasons, my point is that those seasons were much more interesting from a championship point of view than 2023 was. Halfway through both 2017 and 2018 Vettel was still in the fight (leading the championship even, if I recall correctly). A series of mistakes from Vettel and Ferrari, and their form tailing off a little at the end of the season meant that the championships did not go to the wire, but it was still much closer than last year, and hence, better.
            1. 

               Yellow Baron
               4th March 2024, 7:58

               And 2019 was just the opposite, a portion of that season Hamilton only won about 3 or 4 out of 12 races and the other 8/9 were won by 4 other drivers
         3. 

            Yellow Baron
            4th March 2024, 7:56

            How is 2/3 if the season front loaded? You’re clutching
         4. 

            Yellow Baron
            4th March 2024, 7:56

            And that’s all you could reply to. Do you wor for redbull?
         5. 

            MichaelN
            4th March 2024, 10:01

            Many people forget how scruffy the start to 2017 and 2018 were for Hamilton and Mercedes. One they got their act together if was smooth sailing to the titles. I suppose its easier to mock Ferrari for failing.
   4. 

      RBAlonso (@rbalonso)
      4th March 2024, 7:15

      I agree with the COTD’s sentiment.

      Hamilton’s dominance was by no means enjoyable but there were external factors to enjoy aside from the title fight. In 2015, Alonso and Vettel moved teams besides 2 other Champions. In 2016, we had a close title fight and the emergence of Max. In 2017 and 2018 testing Ferrari looked on top with a new aero rule set. Likewise the first round of 2019 looked competitive with Ferrari performing well in Bahrain and the intrigue around Leclerc. 2020 was COVID impacted so a totally new calendar. 2021 there was another rule change.

      Since mid 2022 we’ve seen Max win 34 of the last 42. Vettel’s obscene 9 in a row was beaten, then a one race gap, and Max can now match that record again on Saturday. Last year he was second with a grid penalty. We’ve seen this story play out, there are no new circuits, Max has won at all of them except China and Singapore.

      Max aside, no new tracks, no particularly interesting teammate battles (the ones that matter will break up next year anyway), no rookies, no large swing in team performance, no tyre jeopardy. For me this is just the 23rd round of 2023, and whilst I enjoy it, it’s not what anyone hoped for.
   5. 

      anon
      4th March 2024, 8:17

      Tristan, it’s more that pretty much everyone went into the season expecting the results we got, with every single possible rival of Verstappen saying “forget it, Red Bull are still miles ahead and there’s nothing we can do about it”.

      Others have noted that it felt like a continuation of late 2023 in terms of the running order and level of competition, and the race weekend also had many parallels with how the 2023 Bahrain GP played out too. The gap between Verstappen and the next nearest Red Bull driver in qualifying – Leclerc in both cases – was very similar between 2023 and 2024 (Leclerc being 0.064s closer this year around), and when the race itself played out, the resultant gaps between drivers was fairly similar to the 2023 race.

      The combination of the current regulations and the planned change of regulations in 2025 means that many expect this race to effectively set the template for what we are going to see for the next two years. The development restrictions that teams face are designed to limit the rate at which teams can out-develop their rivals during a season and between seasons, and in an environment where development resources are limited, teams will spend as much of 2025 as possible putting their resources towards 2026 instead.

      That is why most feel there is little to hype up – the mechanisms built into the regulations encourage greater stasis in the running order and there is nothing that is expected to change that for years to come. People were already saying back in 2023 that we could probably award the title to Verstappen for 2024 as well, and now people are expecting that to continue into 2025 too.
2. 

   Gerrit
   4th March 2024, 2:16

   Race would have been more exiting if we actually had same RACING. You know drivers and cars competing for space on the track, competing for position, competing wheel to wheel.

   But if round and round the mulberry bush with no actual RACING, is your scene than welcome to F1 2024.

   The height of ridiculousness was Riccardo having to ask his boss to tell his teammate to let him pass. Where was Riccardo’s racecraft? Better tires, DRS (and yes his team mate had DRS as well to prove how stupid DRS is), years more experience under his belt, and yet he has to go cap in hand and beg for his team mate to move over. How weak. Best of the late breakers not able to RACE.
   1. 

      Yaru (@yaru)
      4th March 2024, 6:45

      “DRS (and yes his team mate had DRS as well to prove how stupid DRS is)”

      His teamate had DRS because he was also one second behind another car and the purpose of DRS is to recover the time lost for being behind another car which generated dirty air and thus, suffering the downforce lost.

      Nothing stupid about that, the whole system was made for that purpose.
      1. 

         Yellow Baron
         4th March 2024, 7:59

         It’s a stupid system, lazy work from FIA
      2. 

         S
         4th March 2024, 8:17

         However, F1 could achieve roughly the same effect passively simply by increasing drag – as simply adding Gurney flaps to the rear of each car.
3. 

   EffWunFan (@cairnsfella)
   4th March 2024, 2:37

   Can’t understand this take

   I fully agree with your argument as to why we perhaps should not “expect” anything significantly different. And yet I don’t think it is contradictory to – on the whole – agree that the start to the season (i.e. this one race thus far) was very disheartening.

   I can’t provide reasons for everyone else, but for myself – and as I have said elsewhere – there is a combination of factors. Not just the RBR MV dominance, but the ‘apparent’ level of it, the lack of even some inter-team competition at RBR, no driver changes (and the lack of unknowns that this would otherwise introduce), and perhaps to a lesser extent, the design rules stability.

   I may be wrong, but the reason that you cannot understand the COTD take may be down to what elements of F1 entertain ‘you’. And that’s fair enough. But I feel F1 has many facets, and different people derive different levels of enjoyment from each of these. We already know that some enjoy sprint races, others don’t. Some like to see their driver dominate, other do not like any level of extended domination. My late mother enjoyed the crashes (though, of course hoping no harm came to the drivers).

   Anyway, my long winded point is that maybe the OP doesn’t ‘expect’ every race to be exciting. but does ‘hope’ they will be, and that he feels the indications are not currently promising for much different.
   1. 

      EffWunFan (@cairnsfella)
      4th March 2024, 2:38

      Sorry, was meant to be a reply to Tristan
   2. 

      Tristan
      4th March 2024, 5:01

      the reason that you cannot understand the CotD take may be down to what elements of F1 entertain ‘you’

      What I don’t understand is calling it the most disheartening in a long time when this level of domination (which is what 3 of the 4 points CotD raised take issue with, not the others you’ve pointed out) has been the case in F1 just very recently, year after year.
      By saying things like “I imagine FOM are pretty worried about having to drag this out for 24 races” implies there’s a massive issue is with the product, not a matter of personal opinion. That might be true, but they haven’t made a good argument for it.
      1. 

         S
         4th March 2024, 5:20

         What I don’t understand is calling it the most disheartening in a long time when this level of domination… has been the case in F1 just very recently, year after year.

         Then you must agree – if that aspect is unappealing to an individual, it makes perfect sense that the cumulative effect makes it worse, right?
         The majority of the last 10 F1 seasons have looked like this, and many of the 15 before that. Fatigue is real.

         And I’d agree with CotD that FOM are certainly at least a bit worried about what effect this continued lack of competition at the front has on the commercial side of F1. Liberty are in the business of selling F1, and the less (and/or fewer) people want it, the less money they make from it. That then trickles down to the teams, who aren’t guaranteed a fixed specific payout, but only a percentage of it – and unhappy teams make Liberty’s work harder.
         The longer, and more, that F1 attempts to satisfy the existing teams, the bigger the risk they take in alienating the people who ultimately fund it – the viewers, most of whom want a healthy competition on the track and not just behind closed doors in the factories over the winter.
      2. 

         EffWunFan (@cairnsfella)
         4th March 2024, 5:29

         That might be true, but they haven’t made a good argument for it.

         Fair enough.

         “…..when this level of domination” ……….. “has been the case in F1 just very recently, year after year”.

         I guess it is possible that the OP has found each successive year more disheartening for this very reason?!?

         But separately, the number of other comments being made, including those reconsidering their relevant subscriptions does suggest that he/we are not alone in being disheartened. I am too lazy to compare the prevalence of such comments to previous years – I know I have definitely seen comments alluding to stopping watching F1 in previous seasons – so perhaps ‘the most disheartening‘ is unfair…………… perhaps. But I think we likely can agree that the little we have seen so far is not explicitly ‘heartening’.
      3. 

         Yellow Baron
         4th March 2024, 8:03

         The product most definitely does have an issue. If it were marketed as an engineering competition that is then exhibited on track that would be fine but it’s marketed as racing, a sport and actually, the greatest spectacle. So there you go. They don’t show the drivers points and standings last.
         1. 

            Yellow Baron
            4th March 2024, 8:04

            Neither do they put the tp’s or engineering in the spotlight or fawn over them or do a podium for them. It’s the drivers. Doh.
4. 

   Jere (@jerejj)
   4th March 2024, 5:19

   So some sort of electronic issue in the end, given the yellow light above the airbox hole, but I’m surprised the brake balance can change on its own without driver input.
   I reckon he could’ve finished a position or two lower than Albon without that out-of-control issue, so unfortunate, although even Albon had some difficulties with the new steering wheel design during his battle with Mag.

   Ford pulling out from their commitment with Red Bull wouldn’t necessarily be a big loss as I understand they’ll only be a technical partner for RBPT rather than an actual PU supplier.

   Regarding COTD, I share the principles with the above posters, especially since the present situation isn’t the first with a single team or driver winning regularly, so no different from those scenarios.
   1. 

      Osnola
      4th March 2024, 9:38

      I’m surprised the brake balance can change on its own without driver input.

      Not sure if that whats happened. As i understand vowles, he was adjusting the balance but the system overreacted.
      1. 

         Jere (@jerejj)
         4th March 2024, 11:28

         Ok, that’s a more logical scenario, but at least different from Hamilton’s infamous ‘Magic Button’ case which was purely a driver-inflicted error.
5. 

   Sham (@sham)
   4th March 2024, 6:29

   2024 F1 is a problem self inflicted as every rule change in the last few years hurts the racing.
   DRS isn’t exciting. What’s exciting is things like Hamilton Rosberg in 2014.
   What’s exciting is racing, cars dancing on the edge of grip, visibly.
   1992 was exciting because even though Mansell walked away with it – the car could bite him at any second. Or maybe break down – you never knew if a driver would finish a race.

   This is just dull to watch on every level imaginable. Painful to hear the commentators try to inject some enthusiasm into a car having DRS.

   I mean, what has the sport become?
   1. 

      Yellow Baron
      4th March 2024, 8:06

      The crazy thing with drs is it’s. Been 15 year and that’s just left it as is, no change no fresh idea to address issues nothing. Lazy work from FIA. It became clear it wasn’t great overall for what is truly needed and they did nothing. But look at it and nod.
6. 

   Yaru (@yaru)
   4th March 2024, 6:53

   “2024 F1 is a problem self inflicted as every rule change in the last few years hurts the racing.”

   The reduction in downforce lost with the new ground effect cars definitely helped the racing. I’ll give you weight but overall I will say the regs in 2022 has improved it.

   “1992 was exciting because even though Mansell walked away with it – the car could bite him at any second. Or maybe break down – you never knew if a driver would finish a race.”

   Car breaking down is definitely still a possibility now, see the random engine fires a few years ago. In any case, reliability being good is more of the teams being good then any ruleset changes. And last I checked DNFs are still a thing even last year. Red Bull and Ferrari had reliability issues in 2022, the latter had to tune down their engines mid season for that very reason. The former also had issues in regards to that.

   The difference is, Red Bull/Max is just good when it comes reliability and racing last season. That’s not a ruleset issue, that’s a they’re just too good issue. Cars in the ground effect era are definitely unpredictable when it comes to driving and behaviour, see Ferrari and Mercedes last year at different tracks.
   1. 

      Sham (@sham)
      4th March 2024, 7:05

      The reliability issue is as a result of the engine freeze and the allocation of engine parts per year – the teams don’t push to the limit because they can’t. Previously, the could and they did. Even cars that had a massive advantage.
      And there is no racing because of it. The 2022 rules didn’t help, they just made the lines of cars on the track closer together – the racing, iny view is much worse than ever since 2022. All through the field. Yes, there is an occasional good race… But, when the majority of them are like last weekends – all the cars finish, as they do in most races now where there isn’t a crash, and drivers need to wait for DRS, because actually racing would hurt the tyres and flatten the battery… Something is very wrong.
      1. 

         S
         4th March 2024, 8:32

         The reliability ‘problem’ (too much of it) came about long before the current engine freeze.
         It started when F1 decided that (manufacturer/wealthy) teams were using too many engines, and so capped the number that they could use each season and added a penalty system for using additional ones (and parts).

         It has become almost inevitable that every car will take an engine (or parts) penalty at some point during the season, so all of the teams simply plan for it now. It is already so embedded as a strategic factor that new rules have had to be put in place to prevent teams from chucking a new engine ‘in the pool’ as a backup in case they need to change it at a track that is harder to overtake on.
   2. 

      Roger Ayles (@roger-ayles)
      4th March 2024, 12:08

      @yaru

      In any case, reliability being good is more of the teams being good then any ruleset changes.

      I think the biggest factor in reliability been near perfect now is the cost reduction regulations mandating long life components on top of the development restrictions and freezes.

      In decades past engines for example were constantly been developed and evolved through a season with the aim been pure performance and that along with them been stressed more led to failures.

      Now engines are designed abit more conservatively with the aim been longevity rather than pure performance.

      And even when drivers are pushing to the limit the engines still aren’t been stressed as they are never taken to the full 15,000rpm rev-limit. They don’t run them above an 11-12,000rpm range so they just aren’t been stressed asthose from past eras were.
7. 

   Zann (@zann)
   4th March 2024, 7:18

   Max is not really star material, is a big part of it. He’s not charismatic, generous or interesting, he’s a purpose bred raceboy, who goes home and plays racing games.

   So we don’t especially want him to win, as a character. And the people that do are just Dutch or have dubious agendas. And even their joy at Lewis being beaten has faded now
   1. 

      Yellow Baron
      4th March 2024, 8:18

      What does this moulding formula even deserve after disrespecting their fans in Spa and Abu Dhabi 2021? F1 has hardly ever been about the racing. Even the younger fans confess gat the off track stuff keeps gem interested turns out F1 is actually a reality show, a half baked mimic of world politics, with a some cars on track as a side show.

      Its a shame the drivers don’t even race Max hard. Charles did everything to try stay in it against Carlos at turn 1 round the outside but to max just submitted and backed out. As another commenter said; you don’t know what might happen if you just try. Lando too eg Brazil last year. To much respect and comradery nullifies the racing. Can’t see Lando winning a race battling with max if he ends up with a close car one weekend, unless he just gets an easy pass without having to race..
      There’s an unspoke thing to this. Max knows he has a lot of drivers in his pocket as does lance know they’re aware of how he drives defend/attacks. Even Lewis to some extent but arguably they race him harder.

      Just too add in, if ever a driver on this grid gets shafted like Lewis did in Abu Dhabi then they better keep their mouth shut like they all did at the time as if they would have been happy with the same happening to them
      1. 

         Yellow Baron
         4th March 2024, 8:21

         They were all to scared to say anything, the drivers are all whipped. Another thing with this sport it’s very constipated. The FIA is borderline communist.
   2. 

      Osnola
      4th March 2024, 9:39

      You are pretty pathetic. ;)
      But i get it, taking in year after year must hurt.
      1. 

         Zann (@zann)
         4th March 2024, 15:00

         i wasn’t sure we were supposed to insult each other like this, but it’s ok apparently. I suppose the mods think it’s actually about F1 in a way, making my point about the kind of fans who attach themselves to Max :)
8. 

   Yellow Baron
   4th March 2024, 8:10

   What does this moulding formula even deserve after disrespecting their fans in Spa and Abu Dhabi 2021? F1 has hardly ever been about the racing. Even the younger fans confess gat the off track stuff keeps gem interested turns out F1 is actually a reality show, a half baked mimic of world politics, with a some cars on track as a side show.
9. 

   Jeanrien (@jeanrien)
   4th March 2024, 8:43

   Should we even mention this plane flyover when F1 pretend to make some effort and which probably burnt as much fuel as all the cars combined during the weekend?
   1. 

      Sham (@sham)
      4th March 2024, 9:32

      My understanding is that the plane used sustainable fuels – it said so on the livery of the plane. I guess it depends if sustainable actually means sustainable or “kind of sustainable”, but it was truly so – then I have no issue with them doing it for a show.
10. 

    MichaelN
    4th March 2024, 10:09

    How is it “staggering” to get 37,000 spectators, that’s barely a tenth of some other races?

    Anyway, the MBS and Verstappen interaction is odd. The way it’s been reported it’s not clear, to me at least, what the intention was. If it was, as some suggest, to close ranks and make the story disappear then MBS was clearly out of line. Given the overly negative way the British press has covered his presidency I’m reluctant to take their word for it, but it would be nice to see someone ask him about this at the next race.
11. 

    DaveW (@dmw)
    4th March 2024, 12:00

    I’m not here to defend a team principal dipping his pen in company ink. But Jos Verstappen taking shots at Horner is just wild on a couple levels.
12. 

    Coventry Climax
    4th March 2024, 12:49

    Comparing a single, first race to a single race of a full, past season and then concluding the current state of F1 from it, is downright silly at best. It’s drawing conclusions on a sample size of 1. We’ve seen that before, even recently, and on a sample size of zero. My post on that wasn’t allowed and deleted; they must have disliked me saying so.

    Apart from all that, the 1992 season had about a million more things that made F1 interesting, compared to this season.
    I remember an enormous amount of driver changes, with even a female driver -even if she was completely unprepared for the task- and the return of Jan Lammers for a couple of races, after a long, long absence.
    Then there was the vast change of teams competing, the number of power unit suppliers, the rules that still allowed teams to come up with truly new inventions, as well as do some decent catch up – if their financial situation allowed for it, and testing things. That was all being shut down by the FiA thereafter, and none of the rules they have since come with, has actually improved the racing and competition.
    They ran Goodyear tyres back in 1992, and I don’t remember them having any of the issues that we see now with Pirelli and the FiA required specs. (That’s trying to stay neutral on who’s responsable for the current tyre misery.)
    We’ll not even talk about DRS..
    There was even an indoor event that didn’t count for the championship, but was fun to watch nonetheless and brought fans and teams closer together than is possible these days, even from a price perspective.
    There were so many things going on back then.

    Compare that to a season with no regulations change, no driver changes, no … nothing, just more of the same, even more dates on the calendar.
    No wonder everyone jumps onto the Horner saga like it’s a gift from the gods. Only to then argue as usual; which gods and who’s, distracting from the real and more pressing issues.
13. 

    Phil Norman (@phil-f1-21)
    4th March 2024, 13:45

    There have always been periods of domination in F1. But I have not ever really enjoyed any of them. Not Schumacher’s, not Vettel’s not Lewis’ and not Max’s either. I think we have come to the stage though where because of reliability, tyres, DRS, lack of flexibility in rules, etc things seem to have become especially stale. Not to deflect from what Red Bull and Max have achieved though.

    Back in the 80s, 90s and early 00s there was domination and drivers did win multiple titles. But rarely for so many years in succession. Looking back, things changed quite a lot from season to season.

    People will still watch the sport. Especially those invested in it for many years like myself. But I was sat there watching it with my other half on Sunday, not a big F1 fan like myself, and I was thinking that this is all pretty boring really. Especially to a non-viewer. There is very little incidence of the cars/drivers actually racing each other. By the way, they stopped watching after about 20 minutes of the race.

    I cannot see a way forward that is going to improve things very much, for at least two years. I can only hope that this was just a disappointing example of what we might see in the rest of the year. But pretty much knowing which team and driver will win every race is not motorsport is it. I emphasise the word ‘sport’.
    1. 

       Witan
       4th March 2024, 14:36

       Unless F1 stays interesting to the newer viewers Liberty will not be boasting about its finances in this and future years.

       The Hamilton years lost out that way yet those years were overall more of a challenge to him and Merc than the last two have been to RedBull.

       I fear the franchise model as it is emerging is very anti-competitive in reality once the pecking order has been established in the current formula. In 2021 convergence was happening so of course they changed it and gave in to the constant Newey campaign to change to an aero dominated era.
14. 

    Matt Jones (@mattj)
    4th March 2024, 13:52

    Of all the things Williams need to do, was design a new steering wheel so high up the list?
    1. 

       Zann (@zann)
       4th March 2024, 14:56

       well it’s not necessarily all done from one list is it? The steering wheel controls are important, the drivers are always making changes on them, at the same time as driving. Alex’s was alright, so it was just a component or connection presumably
15. 

    G (@unklegsif)
    4th March 2024, 16:22

    That picture of Jos giving CH and his team the death stares is priceless

    G

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