‘Best possible result’ says Vettel after gaining 11 places

21 comments on “‘Best possible result’ says Vettel after gaining 11 places”

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   markp
   29th November 2015, 20:20

   Ah Alonso fast becoming the cantankerous old git of F1. Vettel should not worry Alonso will be in a Nissan LMP1 car next year as they are clearly best placed to defeat Porsche.
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   Barbara
   29th November 2015, 20:27

   Good Drive. Had fast pace, pity about Q1 – small mistakes can be costly (like Massa’s Singapore 2008 pitstop).

   The 44s down on the winning time is very respectable for VET, given the extra pitstop 22s and time lost moving through traffic, mostly in the early part of the first stint, at least c.15s, otherwise he would have been pretty close to Mercs. If Allison can improve the chassis for mechanical grip, they may make a better spectacle next year.

   The 2016 car will be JA first fully integrated Ferrari he has designed
   1. 

      MattDS
      29th November 2015, 20:45

      given the extra pitstop 22s

      What extra pit stop? He pitted twice (S-S-SS), which was the strategy most ran.

      Agree with @me4me below, Ferrari should probably have let him do 1 or 2 more laps on his first stint, then a stint of supersoft which would probably have shown S-SS-SS was the best strategy.

      Not that it would have mattered that much, though. Would still have been fourth place.
3. 

   HK (@me4me)
   29th November 2015, 20:28

   Seb seem to thrive better on the super-softs this weekend. I think Ferrari should have went for SS in the 2nd stint, see how long they hold up, and then either S or SS for the 3rd stint. But anyway, 3-4 is a good result for what was a little bit of an messy weekend with the qualifying screw-up and a bad pit stop for Kimi.
4. 

   Sumedh
   29th November 2015, 20:34

   He had the fastest car for 4 straight years. He denied Alonso his 3rd title twice in the last race of the season. He took Alonso’s place in Alonso’s old team and immediately got blessed with the second best car on the grid (this after being thrashed by his new teammate) while Alonso got the second worst car on the grid.

   After all this, if I was Alonso, I would really hate Vettel too ;-)
   1. 

      Oletros (@oletros)
      29th November 2015, 20:37

      He had the fastest car for 4 straight years

      No, he didn’t
      1. 

         Kevv
         29th November 2015, 20:59

         You’re really going to argue about that fact? 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013: Red Bull got most poles and fastest laps each year……..
         1. 

            Patrick (@paeschli)
            29th November 2015, 21:51

            Well it was only the fastest car in the hands of one of the drivers …
            1. 

               jhg103 (@joshgeake)
               30th November 2015, 13:40

               Best.Reply.Ever.
      2. 

         Kingshark (@kingshark)
         29th November 2015, 22:14

         @oletros
         2010, 2011 and 2013 are not really debatable.

         2012 is the only one that is somewhat debatable. McLaren was as fast, maybe even a bit faster than Red Bull. But everything that could have gone wrong for Hamilton that year, did go wrong. In that sense, Red Bull was still the best overall package.
         1. 

            henry
            30th November 2015, 0:14

            2010 is debatable. Both Ferrari AND McLaren was just as fast. That gap from quali was also gone in races. And overtaking was at its highest during those years…
   2. 

      Barbara
      29th November 2015, 21:04

      Cry me a river

      ALO must suck it up , he won 1 WDC because of the better car and unreliability of others in 2006. 2006 ALO car was designed by the same designer at RBR (ROB MARSHALL) when at Renault. In 2005, the MCL was a better car but was very unreliable and the Ferrari was no where due to the Tyre Fiasco. So he must take it like a man.

      VET had the best car for 3 years (very marginally in 2010). In 2012 the McLaren was the fastest car (cold hard fact, the MCL results were lacking). In only two years was RBR dominant in his hands only. His wins were as much to do with consistency of results than with best car. In 2010 ALO made enough driving errors that denied him title in the end (ever forget the Monaco crash or Turkey when VET DNFd, he was nowhere to capitalize, MAS had to gift him Ger GP)

      2014, Vettel was beaten by his teammate (he admits RIC did a better job last year), but he wasn’t thrashed when you consider VET had over 8 weekends that were impacted by severe PU issues (AUS, ESP, MON, AUS, BEL, SIN, US) where RIC had none, not 1 issue even in FP. The PU issues resulted in components having to get stretched out for more races, so less performance is available).RIC completed the most race laps of non MGP cars by some margin. RIC still did a better job, but thrashed he wasn’t. His 3 wins, only Belgium was due to better driving than VET.

      RIC was beaten this year, will we say that KYVAT is better than RIC and therefore VET – don’t be silly.
      1. 

         markp
         29th November 2015, 21:24

         Ricciardo has been beaten by his team mate 2 times and won 3 times. I would be mortified if Ferrari swaped Vettel for Ricciardo. I was sceptical when Ferrari replaced Alonso with Vettel but I would not swap them back for me Vettel brings more to the team.
      2. 

         iFelix (@ifelix)
         29th November 2015, 22:17

         Great analysis! With some minor changes it can be a decent article, and at the very least #cotd!
      3. 

         Nick (@nick101)
         30th November 2015, 2:43

         @barbara

         2014, Vettel was beaten by his teammate (he admits RIC did a better job last year), but he wasn’t thrashed when you consider VET had over 8 weekends that were impacted by severe PU issues (AUS, ESP, MON, AUS, BEL, SIN, US) where RIC had none, not 1 issue even in FP

         Ricciardo didn’t have any PU issues all season? Not one? Really? Did you even watch the 2014 season?

         RIC still did a better job, but thrashed he wasn’t. His 3 wins, only Belgium was due to better driving than VET.

         Ummmm…yes, Ricciardo DID thrash Vettel – badly! Pick any statistic you like, Ricciardo destroyed Vettel. Only Belgium was due to driving better than Vettel? HAHAHA! Do me a favour! Every single time they got on the track and especially when they went wheel to wheel Ricciardo made Vettel look like an amateur!
         1. 

            caci99
            30th November 2015, 9:02

            In 2014 Ricciardo was the only driver other than Mercedes ones to win GPs. His wins came because of Mercedes suffering from reliability. In 2015 Vettel is the only driver other than Mercedes to win GPs, his wins were fair and square, not because Mercedes suffered any reliability issue.
            Vettel was beaten in 2014 from his team mate, anyone saw it, Vettel himself admitted it (not like many others who would have found excuses). But thrashed!?
            When you consider Vettel an amateur is easy to understand that you will never change your mind though.
         2. 

            AntoineDeParis (@antoine-de-paris)
            30th November 2015, 11:03

            @ Nick (@nick101)

            “Every single time they got on the track and especially when they went wheel to wheel Ricciardo made Vettel look like an amateur!”

            Have fun baby, their latest fight on track in equal machinery. (Daniel really wanted to win, we know it from the man himself) :
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTTND9QdUQE

            And btw. Daniel had fantastic season this year lmao !
         3. 

            David-A (@david-a)
            30th November 2015, 17:15

            @nick101
            Well yeah, because Ric’s 2 retirements were a pitstop screw up and a suspension failure.

            And in Canada they screwed up Vettel’s stop which cost him track position over Ricciardo, while in Hungary, Vettel was P3, way ahead of Ric, before the safety car shuffled the order and suddenly Dan was P1. Of course, perfect safety cars were what gave him a chance in Hungary this year, too.
            1. 

               uan (@uan)
               1st December 2015, 15:54

               @david-a

               Sorry David-A, you’ve been given a drive through and 4 points on your posting license for introducing facts into an argument.

               ;)
5. 

   AliceD (@aliced)
   30th November 2015, 9:20

   They must really do something about these back-markers like Alonso who has nothing to gain by getting in the way of faster cars. A warning at the least.
   1. 

      uan (@uan)
      1st December 2015, 15:57

      @aliced

      They added Verstappen 20 seconds to his time and 2 points on his license for ignoring blue flags for a whole lap. I loved his excuse though – “he wasn’t close enough to pass me” – after all, it worked with his team in Singapore lol.

      Alonso is more being Alonso, and just made the pass more difficult, but he didn’t block Vet for that long.

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